You're In Good Hands: The Beau Tomteer Law Firm Mafia GAME THREAD

[Katiora]

7 minutes ago, Cory Caboose said:

Official Vote Count

 

Cass (1) - Kat

 

Votes are locked!

Oh well I wish I had known this before *sighs* Oh well... I'm pretty well stuck with the mentality that if Cass is wolf I'm just 100% screwed anyway *shrugs* 

 

AJ I would say Lenlo on pure probability. lol But honestly I just don't know at this point. There's a chance you're t/t but if so then Cass is scum. *shrugs* 

[Andrej]

8 minutes ago, Katiora said:

Oh well I wish I had known this before *sighs* Oh well... I'm pretty well stuck with the mentality that if Cass is wolf I'm just 100% screwed anyway *shrugs* 

 

AJ I would say Lenlo on pure probability. lol But honestly I just don't know at this point. There's a chance you're t/t but if so then Cass is scum. *shrugs* 

 

Probability?

[Katiora]

1 minute ago, Andrej said:

 

Probability?

I keep thinking there's no way you can be scum again lol 

[Andrej]

Yeah but what about actual game stuff 

[Katiora]

4 minutes ago, Andrej said:

Yeah but what about actual game stuff 

 

 

I don't know... This game has me completely frazzled. I mean you've been quiet, but you almost never live this long so *shrugs* 

 

Lenlo has been active so slightly towny, but he's been active in a very belligerent way.... He could very easily do that as scum as easily as town. I mean it's easy to come into a game with multiple people with less time to play than everyone else and point the finger and yell and fuss. Doesn't make you town. That's been my problem with this game. There hasn't been anything besides activity to make people look towny. I'm sorry the votes don't mean crap out of context of the people's thoughts. and you can catch scum in a lie after everyone knows the flip. they can make excuses. I hate this game (sorry cory) lol I know I've sucked as town this game but I feel completely helpless. No one is posting their thoughts. They've ragged me about mine but heck I have nothing to pull from. Darc hasn't said two words I remember the last day phase, but they stayed locked on me you and Nyn. Which did so much good. Honestly I'm almost convinced it's Darc and Lenlo and Darc did an awesome job of wagoning a partner. *shrugs* but I could be wrong

[Katiora]

*can't catch scum in a lie

[Andrej]

Did you realize today was Lylo before you voted?

 

also, Tripped and others were saying how Darc tapers off a lot towards the end of the game. They barely posted at all D4 and still a no show now, so yeah, I can see your point there.

 

Doomsday scenario for me would be Cass/Darc but I don’t think it’s Cass at this point unless she just really gambled that Town would lynch Seph/Nyn without her.

 

Honestly I’m sort of petered out at this point. My last class is tonight and I’ve spent the majority of the weekend finishing up papers and stuff.

[Andrej]

Lenlo not getting shot is wifomy since Nyn was the last ML scum needed to get to Lylo. So shooting Illian to ensure there’s no hard cleared players is probably the right move but still

[Kaylee]

Official Vote Count

 

Cass (1) - Kat

 

Votes are locked!

[Lenlo]

3 hours ago, Cass said:

 

?

 

Where are you at now, Lenlo?

 

You knew this was a possibility, and stated at one point before the actual trial that you thought Nyn was less likely Wolf than AJ/Kat - the gif/no further response seems off?

Im tryin to think.

 

2 hours ago, Katiora said:

EHhhhh right now I feel like everything I have is tinfoil. 

 

 

I wouldn't put it beyond AJ and Lenlo for them both to be scum. Honestly it'd be hard to convince everyone at this point that they're not at least w/v. I bet no one would put them W/W but it would be a really good gambit. It would also explain why, after lenlo was so fixed on AJ that he would go after Nyn. Honestly I expected him to go after me. I came in this morning almost hoping to be dead lol Oh well...  

 

I mean... I don't know. 

 

So it's me, you, Lenlo, AJ, and Darc left... we're so screwed. *sighs* 

 

Vote: Cass  

 

 

 

Nice vote. Absolves you of all responsibility since you apparently had no idea they were locked ?

 

1 hour ago, Katiora said:

 

 

I don't know... This game has me completely frazzled. I mean you've been quiet, but you almost never live this long so *shrugs* 

 

Lenlo has been active so slightly towny, but he's been active in a very belligerent way.... He could very easily do that as scum as easily as town. I mean it's easy to come into a game with multiple people with less time to play than everyone else and point the finger and yell and fuss. Doesn't make you town. That's been my problem with this game. There hasn't been anything besides activity to make people look towny. I'm sorry the votes don't mean crap out of context of the people's thoughts. and you can catch scum in a lie after everyone knows the flip. they can make excuses. I hate this game (sorry cory) lol I know I've sucked as town this game but I feel completely helpless. No one is posting their thoughts. They've ragged me about mine but heck I have nothing to pull from. Darc hasn't said two words I remember the last day phase, but they stayed locked on me you and Nyn. Which did so much good. Honestly I'm almost convinced it's Darc and Lenlo and Darc did an awesome job of wagoning a partner. *shrugs* but I could be wrong

So you have a read on me... now? Didn't you go almost the whole game with no read on me, and now at lylo you suddenly have one?

 

The safest play in my mind is Kat, cause what are the odds this ^ comes from a villager, but all that will do is hold us for another day until we have to make another crapshoot choice. Odds are if Darc isn't the wolf, they will be alive on the last day just to win via inactivity. Its a shitty way to win, but it is a win. If he his a wolf though that means he is submitting NK's and stuff and just ignoring the thread. They were last online 21 hours ago so that is not outside the realm of possibility.

 

To me the wolf team is either Kat/AJ or Kat/Darc

 

Either way Kat is a wolf.

[Lenlo]

Know what? No, im sticking by Plan A. I would accuse AJ if voted. It was the promise we made, and it didn't work out how he wanted. 

[Andrej]

How did I want it to work out exactly?

[Lenlo]

10 minutes ago, Andrej said:

How did I want it to work out exactly?

Well, if you were town, you would have wanted Nyn to flip wolf.

 

Its pretty cut and dry, the convo we had. I said I was willing to give it a try and if she flipped wolf, then agree to drop you cause I don't think wolf you would sack someone this late. You like to get through with everyone if I remember right.

 

She didn't flip wolf, so I am following through with it. No more second guessin.

[Andrej]

Sounds like it worked out exactly how you would’ve wanted it to then.

[Lenlo]

1 minute ago, Andrej said:

Sounds like it worked out exactly how you would’ve wanted it to then.

Orly? Cause I wanted Nyn to be a wolf. I wanted to be wrong about your slot. Its why I tried to be reasonable with you yesterday instead of drowning the thread in calls for your death.

 

I could have easily accused you last night AJ, and everyone probably would have voted yes. If your town, in what world does not accusing or NKing you last night end well for me, when I inevitably have to take you on in an argument at LyLo?

 

Suffice to say, that would be a stupid plan. Thats not even a gamble or some risky play. Its just stupid. Because at this point in the game, wolves don't need stupid plans to win. They just need to stay the course.

 

That your trying to turn this around with such a weak argument? Its crap.

[Andrej]

Accusing Nyn was always a better long term plan, so don’t try to give me that. She was always more likely to get pushed through than me, which is obvious by the fact she got voted out 5:1 Lynching me and having me flip Town right before lylo burns you

 

so no, it’s not a risky play to leave alive someone who has been under suspicion for the majority of the game who you’ve already built this storyline with. Killing me at any point destroys any play for you today

[Andrej]

It should be the question we’re asking ourselves now.

 

why did we make it to F5?

[Lenlo]

18 minutes ago, Andrej said:

Accusing Nyn was always a better long term plan, so don’t try to give me that. She was always more likely to get pushed through than me, which is obvious by the fact she got voted out 5:1 Lynching me and having me flip Town right before lylo burns you

 

so no, it’s not a risky play to leave alive someone who has been under suspicion for the majority of the game who you’ve already built this storyline with. Killing me at any point destroys any play for you today

Lynch Nyn, NK you, push the lynch on the Inactive. 9/10 that wins the game right there. Illian isn't active enough to make a dent in that. No one is but Cass and lets be frank here, thats swayable. The only person who isn't? You.

 

So no, the safest play and the one I take every time as a wolf right here is to shoot you and lynch an inactive for an easy win.

 

And "under suspicion". By who? Me? Just me? I didn't realize you thought so highly of my reads /s

 

Your just completely wrong buddy. The fact that you can't see any other wolf play today but to leave you alive, because thats the only way you justify your own existence this late in the game, makes this very clear to me. I should have held my ground on this days ago.

[Lenlo]

And if your response to that is "Darc is on your team", then push Kat instead. I can't have both on my team and both are easy mis-lynches today for a town where the most active player is a wolf.

 

Your theory that I am a wolf because I left you alive to have some epic thunderdome on the last day is idiotic. I know I am a bad town player, but don't insult my wolf game.

[Andrej]

Cass, Seph, Clov, Nyn. All have expressed something about me at one point in time. Nyn outright suggested you should nominate me over her lol. Are we even reading the same game or is it more convenient to ignore actual things that happened ITT?

 

the entire narrative about you v me is that one of us is scum. You lynch or NK me before lylo and suddenly you’re screwed because I flip Town and there’s no longer “I’d just push an inactive for the win”. You’d have exposed yourself, so while it may be harder this way it’s still winnable. You did the same thing before as scum when there wasn’t even the chance of getting someone else lynched if you stalemated w/ me.

 

[darc-star]

sorry guys

been kinda busy and unmotivated recently, and almost half forgot i was playing a game

not excusable, but ill try to get back into it now

 

still got about 6/7 pages from last phase to catch up on (luckily not as many as id been dreading)

might need to rethink a lot of my reads, dunno if ive been clearing people that i shouldnt have =/

 

will be back once im caught up

[Lenlo]

21 minutes ago, Andrej said:

Cass, Seph, Clov, Nyn. All have expressed something about me at one point in time. Nyn outright suggested you should nominate me over her lol. Are we even reading the same game or is it more convenient to ignore actual things that happened ITT?

 

the entire narrative about you v me is that one of us is scum. You lynch or NK me before lylo and suddenly you’re screwed because I flip Town and there’s no longer “I’d just push an inactive for the win”. You’d have exposed yourself, so while it may be harder this way it’s still winnable. You did the same thing before as scum when there wasn’t even the chance of getting someone else lynched if you stalemated w/ me.

 

Thats not the narrative? I think your a wolf. Theres no "One of us has to be wolf", at least not coming from me. Thats not my storyline bub.

 

Fact is, if you flipped town, I doubt that would out anything. People would have to care for that to happen. You flipping town becomes "Well he shouldn't have been so wolf" or "Look at the people who suddenly switched to being ok with it last day phase who werent before". Once again, 9/10, NKing you and lynching an inactive wins this game.

[Lenlo]

Heck, I wouldn't even need to go for you today for the win AJ. I just keep you alive and then push Kat or Darc, whichever one isn't my teammate. That is STILL an easy win and STILL doesnt "expose" me.

 

There are so many better options to thunderdoming you right now, that the argument that I am a wolf and going for the only play available to me is absurd.

[Lenlo]

Fact is, this entire games makes 1000x more sense if you flip wolf.

[Cass]

6 hours ago, Katiora said:

EHhhhh right now I feel like everything I have is tinfoil. 

 

I wouldn't put it beyond AJ and Lenlo for them both to be scum. Honestly it'd be hard to convince everyone at this point that they're not at least w/v. I bet no one would put them W/W but it would be a really good gambit. It would also explain why, after lenlo was so fixed on AJ that he would go after Nyn. Honestly I expected him to go after me. I came in this morning almost hoping to be dead lol Oh well...  

I mean... I don't know. 

 

So it's me, you, Lenlo, AJ, and Darc left... we're so screwed. *sighs* 

 

Vote: Cass  

 

6 hours ago, Katiora said:

My gut says AJ and Darc. But I'm probably wrong.

 

5 hours ago, Katiora said:

Oh well I wish I had known this before *sighs* Oh well... I'm pretty well stuck with the mentality that if Cass is wolf I'm just 100% screwed anyway *shrugs* 

 

AJ I would say Lenlo on pure probability. lol But honestly I just don't know at this point. There's a chance you're t/t but if so then Cass is scum. *shrugs* 

 

 

Honestly the same Lenlo-AJ gambit idea has crossed my mind - it would go some way to explaining why their interactions feel so off to me, for one,  but it's currently in the ''total tinfoil' bucket with the tag from Nyn suggesting it would be overdone. 

 

Why'd you vote me so quickly out the gate here? It feels like a weird jump/ possible setup given the contradiction to your wait/declare before voting pattern so far. 

 

How do you gather reads on AJ/Lenlo usually? 

 

Why do you have AJ as more likely than Lenlo, rand probabilities aside?