You're In Good Hands: The Beau Tomteer Law Firm Mafia GAME THREAD

[Andrej]

1 minute ago, Lenlo said:

I meant after she flipped. Its the reasonin I assigned to the post. Before then, I will admit, it totally worked. I voted yes on her lynch more because I didn't wanna waste all of D1 and be right back where we started with no lynch, than because I thought she was wolf.

 

ok. And I figured that would be a lot of player's sentiment for D1 regardless of who went up, but since the verdicts are the best way for us to gather info I felt it's more important to vote what you actually think the result will be.

[Cass]

1 hour ago, DontTrustThePenguins said:

I think the Hallia flip is good for Clov and Darc and Cass obviously.

 

Then I guess Lenlo because she was just sure of lenlou being town with no reason.

 

I kinda wonder if frustrated!scum!Aj would also moan about his lenlou argument in the qt. If he would then that's better for him I think.

 

I think it's likely good for Clov, I am ~ok with it for Darc unless she's one to make a small snipe on a partner and follow up with calling it a trash read with nothing else to go on - and Tripped's comment about knowing the (town) call is a pet peeve for Darc is probably a good look?  TBH I especially wondered about Halli's 'Trash read Darc? Harsh' comment and shoulda gone with my gut there. I think she'd do that more as a genuine nod for post-game rather than blatant WW talk ITT.

 

I'm back and forth wrt AJ and Lenlo - she could've been buddying/sewing WIFOM for either. Her and AJ's response to each other seems a little more ?possi-protecting? from both sides, Lenlo could've been the same or it could've just been for WIFOM.

 

And - I don't understand the bold.

 

Do you have thoughts on anybody's play from D1 phase/pre-flip?

[Clovdyx]

35 minutes ago, Cass said:

I think Tripped gets at least half ? Honestly, if she had flipped Town I would have been crying in a corner over you right now. The fact that she's Maf makes me about ~45% more comfortable.

 

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You were at 45 plus S***tonne FEAR on my re-read, so now maybe not so scary ?
 

 

 

 

I keep telling myself that it's super unlikely you-Halleh would be part of a hard bus like that at EoD1 with at least two other players that were under suspicion ... 

 

 

1. The fact that he doesn't join the party and still gets all the love is totally unfair.

2. Whilst I loved Tripped and am sad to lose the Cop, I am SO FREAKING THANKFUL that he is confirmed. If he was skating by on SHC instead of actual clear, I could cry.

 

And on that, I am never YOLO attempted-Seer-covering again. Especially not on someone whose Wolf!game scares me. That was torture.

 

3. Probably even more torturous than it was for you that time the three of us VC'd. 

 

Tripped and I are the same person (Darc and BWN can confirm this).  So any credit one of us gets goes to the other.  Just the way these things go.

 

And it is super unlikely I would bring her up at that point in time.  If I'm mafia, there are plenty of people I can try to sway the accuser - Tripped or otherwise - into lynching.  If I'm completely honest, I don't think there was even the slightest chance somebody puts Hallia on the block before I mentioned her.  She was completely under the radar, and given her availability, I can't fault anyone for not paying much attention to her.  There's basically no universe where she's deliberately avoiding the thread.

[dicetosser1]

@Clovdyx   cass was seer cover with the thinking that i could make certain posts to really try and sell it if needbe.

 

there was also the extra fun of trying to make her the accuser knowing  what she went thru in that kingmaker game  :D:D:D   but that was just bonus kicks lol

 

 

saying that i DO think shes town but do not hang the game on that. She fools me all the time. Shes active tho not poking as much as normal    (has she done her three question thingy yet?). I will say that there was a lot of concern to NOT be the accuser but knowing what i know that doesnt surprise me.

[Clovdyx]

Just now, dicetosser1 said:

@Clovdyx   cass was seer cover with the thinking that i could make certain posts to really try and sell it if needbe.

 

there was also the extra fun of trying to make her the accuser knowing  what she went thru in that kingmaker game  :D:D:D   but that was just bonus kicks lol

 

 

saying that i DO think shes town but do not hang the game on that. She fools me all the time. Shes active tho not poking as much as normal    (has she done her three question thingy yet?). I will say that there was a lot of concern to NOT be the accuser but knowing what i know that doesnt surprise me.

 

lol I know she was seer cover.  I said early on D1 that I was townreading Cass for probably dumb reasons - it's because I saw your "read" on her and understood it was intended to be a peek.  I went back and forth on whether or not you'd be that overt of stating a true peek right off the bat.  I figured it wasn't likely, but not so unlikely I ruled you out as the cop.  I also figured if you were mafia, you wouldn't drop it on mafia!Cass.  So the odds were good enough you knew she was town one way or another.

 

I don't think I need to justify why I didn't spell all of that out with the cop living ?

 

@Cass -tiny shriveled grapes, indeed

[dicetosser1]

Just now, Clovdyx said:

 

Tripped and I are the same person (Darc and BWN can confirm this).  So any credit one of us gets goes to the other.  Just the way these things go.

 

And it is super unlikely I would bring her up at that point in time.  If I'm mafia, there are plenty of people I can try to sway the accuser - Tripped or otherwise - into lynching.  If I'm completely honest, I don't think there was even the slightest chance somebody puts Hallia on the block before I mentioned her.  She was completely under the radar, and given her availability, I can't fault anyone for not paying much attention to her.  There's basically no universe where she's deliberately avoiding the thread.

 

red is a good point. However i refuse to clear you on it. First thought i had on trips flip was you darc or pengy. No one else knows her well enuff to pick up on a cop hint  (i didnt remember if shed seer peeked or not at that time)

 

second thought i have is that ure a sneaky so and so and could be doing all this as scum. its definetly in ure range. im leaning town just   being stubborn i guess and not locking you in

[Clovdyx]

But the reason I asked that was trying to figure out why people picked the players they did for seer cover.

[dicetosser1]

1 minute ago, Clovdyx said:

 

lol I know she was seer cover.  I said early on D1 that I was townreading Cass for probably dumb reasons - it's because I saw your "read" on her and understood it was intended to be a peek.  I went back and forth on whether or not you'd be that overt of stating a true peek right off the bat.  I figured it wasn't likely, but not so unlikely I ruled you out as the cop.  I also figured if you were mafia, you wouldn't drop it on mafia!Cass.  So the odds were good enough you knew she was town one way or another.

 

I don't think I need to justify why I didn't spell all of that out with the cop living ?

 

@Cass -tiny shriveled grapes, indeed

 

no you dont. and the obvious was part of why i did it so all good

[dicetosser1]

1 minute ago, Clovdyx said:

But the reason I asked that was trying to figure out why people picked the players they did for seer cover.

 

like i said  cause i could say things to sell it if needed

 

stuff like thank god the rand made cass easy sorta stuff. how i didnt have to be paranoid about her this time.

 

thats why

[Clovdyx]

26 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

FWIW, the game you played with Kat isn't one I think she couldn't replicate as scum. She's smart enough to know that we all expect her to be a nervous, indecisive wreck D1 and that under zero circumstances would she ever want to be the one choosing the lynch. 

 

What game?

 

Bold - I agree.  But I have absolutely no idea how to read her before flips, so pretty much my only strategy for reading her D1 was to get enough information in the thread where I could feel comfortable saying she was genuinely paranoid.  I do question if she would think of tying you and me together as a tinfoil scumteam if she's mafia, but the rest is probably NAI.

[Cass]

3 minutes ago, Clovdyx said:

 

Tripped and I are the same person (Darc and BWN can confirm this).  So any credit one of us gets goes to the other.  Just the way these things go.

 

And it is super unlikely I would bring her up at that point in time.  If I'm mafia, there are plenty of people I can try to sway the accuser - Tripped or otherwise - into lynching.  If I'm completely honest, I don't think there was even the slightest chance somebody puts Hallia on the block before I mentioned her.  She was completely under the radar, and given her availability, I can't fault anyone for not paying much attention to her.  There's basically no universe where she's deliberately avoiding the thread.

 

Lololol at this because TBH I thought your comment on her being defensive with the "(town) but I didn't have to do anything" remark was a bit of a reach, and until ISO/no further re-iteration of peek, I was worried that that comment, coupled with the power emote and the early vote on me after Seer discussion might mean she was the cop, you'd picked it and were ribbing on her. I also had a world where Tripped followed your suggestion, either as a partner or because she trusted you...

 

I wouldn't say she was under the radar, but we were definitely glancing over her.

 

What do you make of Nyn so far? Apart from the peek thing, I had the two of them in the same boat. Have you ever seen her Town and missing bite?

[Cass]

Also - @Clovdyx with the tiny shriveled grapes comment - ?

 

Cough up on any issues you might have with me so that we can hash them out.

[Kaylee]

Official Vote Count

 

Not Voting: Clov, Darc, Dice, Lenlo, Nyn, Seph, AJ, Cass, Darthe, Kat, Penguins

[Cass]

(I'm getting ready for a long drive and specialist appt but I'll be back this afternoon)

[dicetosser1]

who u sus on cass?

 

 

also ooc   i can vc ure drive if u wanna

[Cass]

10 minutes ago, dicetosser1 said:

 

like i said  cause i could say things to sell it if needed

 

stuff like thank god the rand made cass easy sorta stuff. how i didnt have to be paranoid about her this time.

 

thats why

 

Which you didn't say though - you went with your usual "NAI / Cass has fooled me too many times" at one point, in response to Tripped?

[dicetosser1]

1 minute ago, Cass said:

 

Which you didn't say though - you went with your usual "NAI / Cass has fooled me too many times" at one point, in response to Tripped?

 

i didnt need to really sell it.  thought i could get away with the minimal just never move on cass sort of thing.  i wasnt really pressured on it.

 

 

there was a game where i did it on zander too if u remember just called him town and refused to say anything else

[Clovdyx]

42 minutes ago, Andrej said:

 

ok. And I figured that would be a lot of player's sentiment for D1 regardless of who went up, but since the verdicts are the best way for us to gather info I felt it's more important to vote what you actually think the result will be.

 

I agree with all of this.  That being said, I almost voted abstain just because I thought it would be more useful for information and wouldn't impact anything.  lolchris

[Cass]

Just now, dicetosser1 said:

who u sus on cass?

 

 

also ooc   i can vc ure drive if u wanna

 

I wanna ISO and try and get clearer thoughts, but I'm still waiting on TOWNNYN! to appear, I'm not sure on Penguin (my thoughts echo AJ's with the no posts and then last min self-pres-type talk).

 

Kat I can't read, want to hear more from. There were a couple of posts that she made that echoed my mind but ? on how to read her.

 

Seph I feeeeel like he's maybe Town but ?NFI that's just gut based on?/needs re-read.

 

AJ and Len I'm ~

@Lenlo while I'm at it - I thought you were going to vote me to break a tie? Why vote me to create one?

 

You... feel flat - kind of like Nyn, I don't see you sinking in your teeth yet. The one thing is I don't think you'd want me accuser as Scum - I do think you'd vote me/cover me either way though.

 

Clov I really don't think would bus Halli D1 unless she asked for it. My guess is he'd bolster a Scum team with frands but ?

 

 

You? Feels anywhere?

 

 

And Y to VC, I'll call you

[dicetosser1]

i am a bit flat but thats due to rl stuff so whatever    isnt really an excuse

 

 

[Cass]

2 minutes ago, Clovdyx said:

 

I agree with all of this.  That being said, I almost voted abstain just because I thought it would be more useful for information and wouldn't impact anything.  lolchris

 

/Ouch

Why do you always beat me to my words?

[Clovdyx]

17 minutes ago, Cass said:

 

Lololol at this because TBH I thought your comment on her being defensive with the "(town) but I didn't have to do anything" remark was a bit of a reach, and until ISO/no further re-iteration of peek, I was worried that that comment, coupled with the power emote and the early vote on me after Seer discussion might mean she was the cop, you'd picked it and were ribbing on her. I also had a world where Tripped followed your suggestion, either as a partner or because she trusted you...

 

I wouldn't say she was under the radar, but we were definitely glancing over her.

 

What do you make of Nyn so far? Apart from the peek thing, I had the two of them in the same boat. Have you ever seen her Town and missing bite?

 

I don't understand what you're saying with the bold?  I don't remember saying anything about anybody being defensive besides Hallia towards Darc.  But I also can't rule it out... I made... a few posts... d1 lol

 

Red - I haven't, but I also haven't seen her town where she was basically absent.  Nyn is someone that I don't feel strongly about today as a accusation target in either direction (e.g., I'm not for/opposed to it) atp.  I had Nyn as potentially with Kat for the same reasons I thought Hallia could be with Kat, so maybe some indirect association but I don't remember anything directly between Hallia and Nyn.

 

I have no idea how to read into what Nyn said earlier about voting Hallia based on Tripped's case when she knows Hallia and doesn't know Tripped.  

[Clovdyx]

18 minutes ago, Cass said:

Also - @Clovdyx with the tiny shriveled grapes comment - ?

 

Cough up on any issues you might have with me so that we can hash them out.

 

I don't have any issues with you?  I'm not sure why you think I do, even.

[Andrej]

18 minutes ago, Clovdyx said:

What game?

 

Bold - I agree.  But I have absolutely no idea how to read her before flips, so pretty much my only strategy for reading her D1 was to get enough information in the thread where I could feel comfortable saying she was genuinely paranoid.  I do question if she would think of tying you and me together as a tinfoil scumteam if she's mafia, but the rest is probably NAI.

 

Voting for her. Trying to get others to vote for her, etc to see how she’d handle it.

 

Its not that hard of a sale just to throw it out there and not really do something with it.

 

 

[Cass]

1 minute ago, Clovdyx said:

 

I don't understand what you're saying with the bold?  I don't remember saying anything about anybody being defensive besides Hallia towards Darc.  But I also can't rule it out... I made... a few posts... d1 lol

 

Red - I haven't, but I also haven't seen her town where she was basically absent.  Nyn is someone that I don't feel strongly about today as a accusation target in either direction (e.g., I'm not for/opposed to it) atp.  I had Nyn as potentially with Kat for the same reasons I thought Hallia could be with Kat, so maybe some indirect association but I don't remember anything directly between Hallia and Nyn.

 

I have no idea how to read into what Nyn said earlier about voting Hallia based on Tripped's case when she knows Hallia and doesn't know Tripped.  

 

Bold is what I was referencing with my bold.

 

You made a comment that Halli's  "I didn't have to do anything" in regards to her specifying (Town) and Darc picking it up was defensive. I didn't read it that way (thought it was possi-breadcrumbing) so at the time thought you were stretching a bit and possibly nabbing at her cos you thought she was the cop.

 

All I remember from Halli and Nyn is entry fluff and Halleh saying nyn's tone? is the same in both? and she wants moar Nyn?

 

Will re-look when I get back.