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The Mafia Parable: Basic Game OVER

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Adella Spam Master

Adella

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I've seriously been in games where people have said popcorn everytime any sort of accusation got thrown around, didn't think it was gonna turn into a thing lol.

 

Still not getting how I'm scum for, as other people have said, basically running parallel to Hallia. Somehow we did the same things, but I'm scum... For fleshing out my explanations?

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RandA lThor Spam Master

RandA lThor

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I've seen so many logic lapses from dpr last game as town that i realized it's not really a paramater i should be using reading him anymore. Funny but true.

Lol, I still remember when i was a newb and DPR was the mafia god who never had time to play with us, so I have these high expectations from him :P

 

Hmm, Rand I do want to recognize the fact that you're trying not to tunnel. It does make me feel a bit better in regards to your alignment. Still not feeling town on you either. There is a chance it's just difference in playstyle, lord knows I run into that issue often enough around here lol.

 

I'm gonna be totally honest, I always come across as at least slightly scummy. If I ever have a game where I don't seem scummy to anyone I will Lynch myself because in that case I will have been watching my words way too carefully lol, total scum tell. (It's a joke, just FYI guys)

 

This sucks a lot hahahaha, cuz you remind me of me, because I was also the one person who came across as scummy :P You're doing a really good job of assuaging my gut feeling, but I can't tell if that's just because you're a really good mafia or you're actually town lol.  I wanna see where some of the other discussions go, i.e. Hally do you have any comments on Adella saying that you run parallel to her?

 

Also, now that I think of it for a second, why is your vote on Hally if you say you've been running parallel to her (pretty much)?  (Also would like to point out that there are other things that I find you sus for besides what Hally's done, but besides the point for now).

Nynaeve Spam Master

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I've seriously been in games where people have said popcorn everytime any sort of accusation got thrown around, didn't think it was gonna turn into a thing lol.

 

Still not getting how I'm scum for, as other people have said, basically running parallel to Hallia. Somehow we did the same things, but I'm scum... For fleshing out my explanations?

I isoed you both. On the surface i can sorta get how your stances are percieved similar but youve had a lot more substance to your posts. It's as simple as that imo, hence my vote.

Nynaeve Spam Master

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And I'm not trying to be mean or anything. Dpr is aware of our disagreements. I lynched him last game and was wrong cause i refused to believe he would be sticking up to certain points he was making. All disagreements aside, i dont want to risk doing that again. So we'll see. Plus he hasnt really done enough to be properly assessed anyhow.

Nynaeve Spam Master

Nynaeve

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Fyi my niece's bday tomorrow so I'll only be on my phone for most of the day. But i guess I'll have to be somewhat social there...

RandA lThor Spam Master

RandA lThor

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Where's leelou when im in the mood for a spanish off lol

I took AP Spanish like 4 years ago, so I could give it a shot :P

 

@rand

I'd lower those standards considerably. Just ask verb.

 

Hehe RIP, I'll keep it in mind

LedZepMan Spam Master

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Honestly LZM, you're playing consistent with how you've played lately, so I think this tunnel on me is probably an indication that you're town..

I just want to point out that I don't think any of your tunnels have worked well for you lately, so please try to keep an open mind throughout this game. Something someone says can ping you one way or another, but we need to look at the big picture and players as a whole.

 

Personally, I'm much quicker to name someone town than I am scum, considering only 25% of the players are scum, it's my favorite part of the new playstyle.

 

However, if I had to choose, right now I would say scum is likely Sooh, because of her very strong reactions. Hallia, for the reasons others have pointed out, she hasn't posted any of her own thoughts but has been around quite a bit. And I'm thinking Rand for the third, but that honestly is a bit tainted by some OMGUS. It can't be that tainted though, cause LZM doesn't seem scummy for voting for me. I think it's how he is claiming Hallia has had more content than I have, even though she and I have talked about the same things and my thoughts are much more detailed and fleshed out, I have answered questions, and even repeated myself to some who seemed to ask questions that I have already explained, in the interest of being open and honest a town.

How am I tunneling here? It's D1 ten pages in. I literally caught up and voted you. If I had votd you 3 days running with plenty of evidence to the contrary, then tunnel would be right word.

DPR Spam Master

DPR

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Cloudflared. Didn't post the first time and it gave me a moment to have some coffee and realize that nobody is unaware of DM's policy regarding swearing. Nervous scumposting is what it smells like.

I flirt with the CoC every day, Rand just returned after long hiatus. I disagree with you're vote.

 

I agree with this statement, but I would like to say that I previously thought that DPR was just beating the grass.  However, his insistence, as I read it at least, as making it a legitimate reason is a little worrying,  because its honestly a bs point, and he's good enough to know that.  Hell, even anyone who plays here and at JN frequently probably has had moments where they forget about the CoC, or its specifications.

 

The problem is, you've just returned from a break - tight? How long have you been away? Been awhile, right? So, forgetting things would be fine, but you seem to have an amazing memory when it comes to things like Verb's play style, which you've commented on several times as being "normal". How do you remember Verb's "normal" play style, but you forgot the rule about swearing on a PG-13 site? 

 

Nervous chatter is what it sounds like. Trying to fit in when you're rusty.

 

 

 

 

 

Idk what it is, but there's something about Verbal's reaction to being voted that seems over the top to me. It almost reminds me of Zander's reactions to the slightest bit of doubt and pressure. I suppose it could be from coming off of another game just recently though.

I've seen people do this to Verb a bunch of times. He's reacting the same way pretty much that he always does, I don't see any overreaction here. *Yours* on the other hand though, does seem a bit much, I don't see what he did to annoy you.

General agreement here.

 

Anyone else feeling like Verb and Sooh distancing here?

 

I literally almost forgot about distancing as a concept haha, and I think I've played in a few games where an overemotional argument is used as distancing between teammates.  However, my read as Verbal acting like normal (which I agree with you on) makes this seem less likely, because if Verbal was trying to force an emotional argument, I feel like it would seem more.. well, forced.

 

Forgets about distancing. Remembers normal play from Verbal.

 

How much did you play with Verbal? How long ago was that? What else would you consider normal from Verbal, just so we can be on the lookout?

 

 

 

 

Why are you so sassy coming out of the gate? Serious asking.

Because I think your prod at Rand is garbage. You've cussed in thread. I've cussed in thread. We all have. Which makes your case on Rand junk.

 

Also, it was a million degrees on the roof today. I'm low man on the totem pole, so I don't get to release my frustration at work. I have to take all the crap with a smile and a thank you. You all ain't so lucky. Heavy metal isn't doing the venting trick it normally does.

 

Basically same thing I said above, p sure all of have had slip ups or near slip ups with the CoC

 

Not sure how this works? Slip-ups, blatant disregard, whatever you want to call it... what does nervous chatter have to do with following the CoC? The point has nothing to do with that?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's more "post what catches my attention ATM" kinda list. I'm on mobile. It's the only way I can do this. I'm fixing to recap and post a reads list, after I finish this forty. And mebbe cook up a pot pie.

So it's the Verb school of "I'm serious, except when I'm not serious and I go with what catches my eye. Wink" school of thought.

 

Awesome.

 

After you and Marie Callander get it together, come back and try to make sense.

What makes you think that I'm not serious about what catches my eye? Adella pings me hardest, not you. I was leaning town for you, hence why I said the " vig kill" comment. Or did you forget game setup?

 

What exactly is your problem with me? Is Adella your scum mate? Did I guess a little too close to home for you?

Is this a legitimate accusation?

No. Belligerent yes. bullheaded, yes. I feel him to be a vig, being antagonistic so he can decide where to place his kill.

 

That's my DPR read.

 

Adella top scum lean.

 

Hallia, second scum lean.

 

Rand - strongest town read. I agree with his thought process concerning Adella and Hallia. As I showed above ^.

 

Verbal - second town read. His play feels natural, unforced. He's handled himself well under pressure thus far. More of a gut read.

 

Nyn- town lean. Again, more of a gut read. Could be wrong.

 

Sooh- confused. Still pondering. Not null, but haven't decided.

 

The rest of y'all are null.

 

Now my pot pie is done. Stupid eight minute cook time. (So worth it). It's time to feast.

 

 

Why do accept complete crap from Verb? "I'm not serious, but maybe I am. But I'm not. I'll tell you later."?  That's not play - that's garbage. Not town.

 

We expect that form Rand, but not Verb. And not you.

 

:sad:

Also no offense DPR, but if you're being serious about your "no way someone forgets the CoC" case on me, then you have 0 room to talk about accepting complete crap.  On top of that, for me at least, my town read on Verbal is based on behavior similar to his normal, where he does mess around like that, and as I mentioned before, in this type of game setup, where there's a lot of killing power on both sides, there are reasons to keep some things to yourself in the short term.

 

I have "0 room" because I noticed you have a selective memory? LOL

 

Also, and this is interesting, I've bolded the line above. It's been my experience that players returning after a long hiatus take a minute to get used to "clearing town" vs. the old school "scum hunting". But you make it look so easy...

 

1. How long you been away again? 

2. Tell us a bit more about normal play form Verbal - can you name some other normal Verbal traits? 

 

And last - this is a basic game. There isn't "a lot of killing power on both sides", According to the open setup, I don't remember seeing any town roles either, so please explain again your reason for defending Verbal not explaining himself?

 

 

>My case against Adella which won't fit here

 

Welp, it was the second time I had said "*popcorn*" in this game, I'm not sure why one is ok and the other is not, but you weren't bothered by the first or I'm sure you would have pointed it out with almost every other post I have made in this game :laugh: I'm flattered by the attention though.

 

The point isn't that you said "popcorn", at all.  The point is that you essentially fence sat/egged on Verbal's comment on Ben to make it seem bigger than it really was.  Hally did it too, and I did address that.

 

But Verbal fence sitting and egging on is normal. Okay. LOL

 

 

 

 

 

I've seen so many logic lapses from dpr last game as town that i realized it's not really a paramater i should be using reading him anymore. Funny but true.

Lol, I still remember when i was a newb and DPR was the mafia god who never had time to play with us, so I have these high expectations from him :P

 

 

 

LOL

 

And I'm not trying to be mean or anything. Dpr is aware of our disagreements. I lynched him last game and was wrong cause i refused to believe he would be sticking up to certain points he was making. All disagreements aside, i dont want to risk doing that again. So we'll see. Plus he hasnt really done enough to be properly assessed anyhow.

 

Oh, I'm aware - you and tweedle dummer almost lost the game because tin foil. Good times.

 

Giving the pirate a hard time is also a personal hobby I've been cultivating. ;-)

 

 

Lucky me.

 

On the plus side, it does give you something to do other than getting into full-emo tifts with others and almost getting banned every game. So there's that. 

 

* I'm obviously in blue.

DPR Spam Master

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Amend to that last: There are, in fact, a number of killing roles.  However, that still does not explain why Verbal insists on not explaining his reads.

 

Setup.

12 Slots.

3 Wolves.
3 1-Shot Vigilantes.


6 Vanilla Towns-members.

Nynaeve Spam Master

Nynaeve

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Really, dpr? That's the road you wanna take with me? Cool. Don't wanna hear you whinning about ape anymore when you're not really much better than he is.

 

Thanks for ruining my morning.

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Caught up, or at least read up. Massive head ache this morning. 

 

Still not liking Adella's posting, and her explaining better than Hallia is only a very minor point in her favor I feel, because I think she would be good at explaining herself even as scum. 

Feeling pretty good about LZM and Nyn so far. Probably also Verb. Neutral on pretty much everyone else, though I will say that that mess which was a DPR post above here in blue is making me think he's towny.

Nynaeve Spam Master

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Caught up, or at least read up. Massive head ache this morning.

 

Still not liking Adella's posting, and her explaining better than Hallia is only a very minor point in her favor I feel, because I think she would be good at explaining herself even as scum.

Feeling pretty good about LZM and Nyn so far. Probably also Verb. Neutral on pretty much everyone else, though I will say that that mess which was a DPR post above here in blue is making me think he's towny.

It's not so much explaining better but more so explaining at all. All hallia has done is piggyback other people's points. Where's i feel like adella did try to communicate her thinking and she did have some independent thought. I agree it doesn't necessarily make her town but in comparison she just seems more involved.

 

If hallia doesnt start doing more than that then she can hang as far as I'm concerned.

LedZepMan Spam Master

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Honestly LZM, you're playing consistent with how you've played lately, so I think this tunnel on me is probably an indication that you're town. I just want to point out that I don't think any of your tunnels have worked well for you lately, so please try to keep an open mind throughout this game. Something someone says can ping you one way or another, but we need to look at the big picture and players as a whole.

 

Personally, I'm much quicker to name someone town than I am scum, considering only 25% of the players are scum, it's my favorite part of the new playstyle.

 

However, if I had to choose, right now I would say scum is likely Sooh, because of her very strong reactions. Hallia, for the reasons others have pointed out, she hasn't posted any of her own thoughts but has been around quite a bit. And I'm thinking Rand for the third, but that honestly is a bit tainted by some OMGUS. It can't be that tainted though, cause LZM doesn't seem scummy for voting for me. I think it's how he is claiming Hallia has had more content than I have,even though she and I have talked about the same things and my thoughts are much more detailed and fleshed out, I have answered questions, and even repeated myself to some who seemed to ask questions that I have already explained, in the interest of being open and honest a town.

The bolded

Nyn has said that. Not me.

LedZepMan Spam Master

LedZepMan

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Adella has a lot more meat to her posts and explains her stance in detail several times. Hallia's posts feel more hollow

All of that. ^

 

Yes, you did say it.

Nynaeve Spam Master

Nynaeve

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Adella has a lot more meat to her posts and explains her stance in detail several times. Hallia's posts feel more hollow

All of that. ^

 

Yes, you did say it.

You've bolded adella saying that you claim hallia has more content than her. I've said the opposite.

 

So again, learn how to read.

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