[Game thread]Magic The Gathering

[BFG]

  On 6/12/2017 at 12:10 AM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

 

  On 6/12/2017 at 12:06 AM, BFG said:

Dice regarding your challenge to Eldrick looking for a wolf game of nyns in which she's claimed wolf out the gate, can you do the same with Shad?

More nonsense - anyone can post an emoji or make a snappy comment. There was an earlier post where Shad said "I do my work by night", but no one is tin foiling that yet...

 

You've gone full-aliens on us.

Lol, dice said he pushed Shad and not Nyn because Shad is likely to post a wolf emoji as mafia and Nyn isn't. He asked Eldrick to provide proof that Nyn would do that as mafia, I'm asking him to do the same for Shad because it's not something I recall from either and want him to back up his statements

[BFG]

  On 6/12/2017 at 12:11 AM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

 

  On 6/12/2017 at 12:10 AM, BFG said:

 

  On 6/12/2017 at 12:05 AM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

 

  On 6/11/2017 at 11:58 PM, BFG said:

DPR, I don't particularly want to go in circles, why do you keep avoiding the simple fact that I've signed by death warrant if I'm mafia?

Because I don't relish leaving a threat hanging around. And I think you're lying.

your argument is that I purposefully out myself for no reason

 

Got it

My argument is that you are fighting, rather vehemently, for us to let you live.

 

Sounds a lot like scum to me.

Or survivor, when you know I have to live

 

If I'm lying I die at F6 which is kind of the whole point you keep ignoring and why I don't do this as mafia

[Shanti]

I personally think BFG is telling the truth. I'll explain more when I can. But Dice, I'll rebuttle your arguments once I get to my laptop, but I was correct, your answers were not satisfying.

 

[v] dice [/v]

[BFG]

Anyway really going to bed now

[dicetosser1]

  On 6/12/2017 at 12:06 AM, BFG said:

Dice regarding your challenge to Eldrick looking for a wolf game of nyns in which she's claimed wolf out the gate, can you do the same with Shad?

 

i probably could but i wont cause i cant be bothered going thru all the games. You know i never do that

 

however iirc shad himself said something this game to the effect that we have gone this route before.

 

 

  On 6/12/2017 at 12:11 AM, BFG said:

 

  On 6/12/2017 at 12:08 AM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

 

  On 6/12/2017 at 12:02 AM, BFG said:

For the sk theory, we're 3 kills short for that to be plausible and an sk F6 solo win with bpv would become extremely difficult for town or mafia to win

This is nonsense - you're just throwing junk out wherever you can to distract. You scum

No? Dice brought up the possibility that I'm SK, I'm pointing out the problems with that scenario

 

 

ive seen an sk not make a single shot til late game. they won. So the fact there hasnt been shots holds no water to me

[DPR]

  On 6/12/2017 at 12:13 AM, BFG said:

 

  On 6/12/2017 at 12:10 AM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

 

  On 6/12/2017 at 12:06 AM, BFG said:

Dice regarding your challenge to Eldrick looking for a wolf game of nyns in which she's claimed wolf out the gate, can you do the same with Shad?

More nonsense - anyone can post an emoji or make a snappy comment. There was an earlier post where Shad said "I do my work by night", but no one is tin foiling that yet...

 

You've gone full-aliens on us.

Lol, dice said he pushed Shad and not Nyn because Shad is likely to post a wolf emoji as mafia and Nyn isn't. He asked Eldrick to provide proof that Nyn would do that as mafia, I'm asking him to do the same for Shad because it's not something I recall from either and want him to back up his statements

 

 

 

I didn't say you were the only one spreading nonsense. The lack of real discussion is disturbing.

[dicetosser1]

  On 6/12/2017 at 12:19 AM, Shanti said:

I personally think BFG is telling the truth. I'll explain more when I can. But Dice, I'll rebuttle your arguments once I get to my laptop, but I was correct, your answers were not satisfying.

 

[v] dice [/v]

 

ok lets see how wrong you are then

[WolfbrotherKronos]

More fluff with Nyn - and commentary on the vote on alf

  On 6/8/2017 at 10:11 PM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 6/7/2017 at 1:35 PM, Nynaeve said:

 

  On 6/7/2017 at 10:21 AM, dicetosser1 said:

oh god someone gave the QLDer V.....


as for nyn i think shes in a mood. not gonna get an accurate read on her like this

Excuse you??

 

 

did i do something??  looks innocently at his nyn

 

 

 

 

  On 6/7/2017 at 5:22 PM, Killashandra said:

Me and Kronos were just discussing Adella and I would agree to her being on our watch list. I would hate to see a new player get lynched day one but I see peoples view, though I dont know if I see him as scummy other than inactivity. Someone did point out his excitement to play and now his absence. But Dice going on about his non reaction to a day one vote seemed over done.

 

 

thought i had Tigs quote here too.

 

@Tigs and Killa   explain to me how i was "going on" or "beating a dead horse"??

 

 I think it was like what?? 4 posts? and they were mostly in response to either cass or alf himself. Your talking like I was driving a lynch on him for pages.

 

 

clarification

  On 6/8/2017 at 10:26 PM, dicetosser1 said:

beat a dead horse was tigs.

[WolfbrotherKronos]

"shad should be lynched but I'm not gonna waste my breath on it" - I found out as I was looking that shad is liable to post a wolf emoji - thus claiming wolf - and do it as actually being a wolf to draw attention away from himself - there are several posts day 2 that deal with why he voted shad because of nyn - it's a null for nyn and not for shad

  On 6/9/2017 at 10:42 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

saved these earlier so they may look copy and pasted cause   well they are :D

 

 

hope it doesnt double post

 

 

 

 

Shanti, on 09 Jun 2017 - 12:07 PM, said:

  On 6/9/2017 at 2:07 AM, Shanti said:

I'm sorry to be that person, but I'm not following at this point. If ALF looked worse, then why switch? I really am truly sorry that it isn't clicking for me.

 

without looking back at the trains i have one word for you . 

 

Consolidation.

 

 

 

 

Cuth, on 09 Jun 2017 - 1:10 PM, said:

  On 6/9/2017 at 3:10 AM, Cuth said:

@dice where are you at on alf

 

what are your other thoughts on gamestate

 

@alf where are you at on dice

 

same question wrt gamestate

 

 alf im actually thinking town. i dont think scum make those responses knowing they may get jumped on for them   especially if theres someone who knows me in that team who can say Dice WILL jump on you.

 

the AFTERMATH of it  with tigs and killa is drawing my focus and im trying really hard not to fall in a tunnel

 

 hopes he doesnt mix these up    killa said a couple of things that seemed ok  but then there was a bit at the end that kinda threw shade at me.

 

tigs  just seems TOO focussed on it   to the point of counting the posts and disputing when i basically shrugged my shoulders and said theres what?? 4??   it doesnt seem to occur to her that thats how u have a convo with someone your asking about something  that u dont really do it in 1 post.  shes bugging me.

 

 

Adella i think is town. That WOT of her reads practically screams it. I caught her in a game on SG but i dont remember her doing anything like that there

 

i need more BFG  she started asking questions but then went quiet.

 

cass ive decided im gonna worry about later  i .dont need that headache right now

 

 

shad should be lynched but im not gonna waste my breath on it

 

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 3:42 AM, Shad_ said:

@Dice it felt like you were going on a bit re: Alf mainly because you haven't said much of anything else, which is weird for you in general.  Give me game thoughts or lemme know when it will be about 4am local time plz.

 

 

 

 

im posting now and here    is it 4am yet?

Shanti, on 09 Jun 2017 - 12:07 PM, said:

  On 6/9/2017 at 2:07 AM, Shanti said:

I'm sorry to be that person, but I'm not following at this point. If ALF looked worse, then why switch? I really am truly sorry that it isn't clicking for me.

 

 

Cuth, on 09 Jun 2017 - 1:10 PM, said:

  On 6/9/2017 at 3:10 AM, Cuth said:

@dice where are you at on alf

 

what are your other thoughts on gamestate

 

@alf where are you at on dice

 

same question wrt gamestate

 

 

Shad_, on 09 Jun 2017 - 1:42 PM, said:

  On 6/9/2017 at 3:42 AM, Shad_ said:

@Dice it felt like you were going on a bit re: Alf mainly because you haven't said much of anything else, which is weird for you in general.  Give me game thoughts or lemme know when it will be about 4am local time plz.

 

 

 

 

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 10:43 AM, dicetosser1 said:

glares

 

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 10:55 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 7:40 AM, Cass said:

Caught up on D2 to here, mindmelding with Shad wrt Killa's popcorn,

 

That said, I feel like I don't know Adella/Killa/Tigs/Shanti/Kronos and they all keep blending/slipping through my thoughts, will try and sort them out tonight.

 

There's not enough from Dice/BFG/Nyn for me to feel like I can get a handle on them.

 

 

@Dice - Why aren't you talking to me? I've asked several times now for your off-the-cuff thoughts. I don't care if you don't have much - throw anything you have, any way you have it.

 

cause ive barely been here thanks to work and cause right now im determined to stay away from you. im not in the mood to bang my head against any walls right now. i do enuff of that at work

 

ive now given thoughts and will hopefully get to reread this weekend  YAY the Queen! 

 

 

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 1:10 PM, dicetosser1 said:

all right shad  i guess its "4am"

 

 

im here for about 20mins more cause its past my bedtime   

 

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 1:18 PM, dicetosser1 said:

lol  ok  then im goin to bed  night

[WolfbrotherKronos]

why alf not responding bugs him

  On 6/9/2017 at 11:18 PM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 4:29 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

 

IMO, Town Shad would have looked at Dice as scum aiming for a mislynch and Scum Shad defends the comment made about him. 

 

  On 6/7/2017 at 2:24 PM, Nynaeve said:

Dice's exchange with sir alfred read awkward. I still don't quite get the exchange. But to be fairi read it loosely. So an eyebrow raise

 

Good point and a concern. It was a weird point for Dice to get that excited about. I've liked other play that I've seen, but his back and forth with Alfred will need to be explained.

 

@ Dice - Will you explain why you chose this point to be very active about? You posted about it more than anything else, so it's obviously important to you.

 

 

 

  On 6/7/2017 at 5:30 PM, Shad_ said:

 

 

 

its only very active because i dont have many posts but ok

 

 not responding to a joke vote is often a bugbear for me    there are exeptions like if i vote cass for being a maroon  i dont really expect a response because we both know what it is. But if its a newbie thats a different story. i dont know if alfs played 2 games or a million games. But hes brand new here and if he gets voted out the gate by someone hes never spoken to i expect SOME kinda comment  even if its a cheeky thank you.

 

but the main reason that seemed very active is that we were both here in REAL TIME. we were talking back and forth and ive formed an opinion on him which is the whole point.

 

 

The reactions afterwards are what im most interested in.

 

 

 

and OOC  hows ure mum?

 

 

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 11:50 PM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 5:12 PM, Shanti said:

 

  On 6/7/2017 at 3:08 AM, dicetosser1 said:

cause shads liable to actually do that.

 

I read nyn and taking in stuff she said after   and i think she was bored. and a bored nyn is a nyn who trolls.

 

 

 

just saw ure last cass  Alf was only ever a welcome to mafia joke vote.

 

Sorry, Shad is liable to actually do what?

 

 

claim wolf when he is one

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 5:46 PM, Cass said:

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 10:42 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

saved these earlier so they may look copy and pasted cause   well they are :D

 

 

hope it doesnt double post

 

 

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 2:07 AM, Shanti said:

I'm sorry to be that person, but I'm not following at this point. If ALF looked worse, then why switch? I really am truly sorry that it isn't clicking for me.

 

without looking back at the trains i have one word for you . 

 

Consolidation.

 

 

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 3:10 AM, Cuth said:

@dice where are you at on alf

 

what are your other thoughts on gamestate

 

@alf where are you at on dice

 

same question wrt gamestate

 

 alf im actually thinking town. i dont think scum make those responses knowing they may get jumped on for them   especially if theres someone who knows me in that team who can say Dice WILL jump on you.

 

the AFTERMATH of it  with tigs and killa is drawing my focus and im trying really hard not to fall in a tunnel

 

 hopes he doesnt mix these up    killa said a couple of things that seemed ok  but then there was a bit at the end that kinda threw shade at me.

 

tigs  just seems TOO focussed on it   to the point of counting the posts and disputing when i basically shrugged my shoulders and said theres what?? 4??   it doesnt seem to occur to her that thats how u have a convo with someone your asking about something  that u dont really do it in 1 post.  shes bugging me.

 

 

Adella i think is town. That WOT of her reads practically screams it. I caught her in a game on SG but i dont remember her doing anything like that there

 

i need more BFG  she started asking questions but then went quiet.

 

cass ive decided im gonna worry about later  i .dont need that headache right now

 

 

shad should be lynched but im not gonna waste my breath on it

 

 

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 3:42 AM, Shad_ said:

@Dice it felt like you were going on a bit re: Alf mainly because you haven't said much of anything else, which is weird for you in general.  Give me game thoughts or lemme know when it will be about 4am local time plz.

 

 

 

 

im posting now and here    is it 4am yet?

 

 

There's a hint of TownDice here along the lines of what I've been looking for, which is more convincing for me than the interaction with Alf/EoD1.

 

*Watches with popcorn* 

 

 

Dice, talk to me about your thoughts on Shad + consolidation?

 

I have gut/tinfoil concerns on some of Shad's posts, but he doesn't make that move as WW imo, and if Alf is Town does he bother making that move as Scum?

 

My current take is possibly, but it seems like unnecessary effort at that point?

 

 

i think he should be lynched just for claiming wolf like he did. And yes im aware nyn did the same sort of post   the difference is style  Shad is tricky and somewhat arrogant about mafia  he is the type that will be a wolf and claim it playing on people to not believe anyone would do this.

 

 

nyn isnt. thats not her style. she never claims unless she HAS too  and even then i think thereve been games where shes been lynched without claiming.

 

As for concolidation. wolves consolidate too remember. sometimes theyd prefer THIS person be lynched then THAT person. Plus it looks good, like they are making efforts to not let it go random which is ALWAYS bad. Shad would consolidate there as either alignment so that move is in fact null.

 

FTR id have moved my vote to put someone in front too   but i ran out of time. like i said random is bad. thats how u lynch inactive PRs.

 

 

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 5:47 PM, Shanti said:

 

  On 6/7/2017 at 10:08 AM, dicetosser1 said:

oh im not saying you didnt answer

 

im saying i liked the first and then u ruined that impression

 

Not sure I fully understood your reasoning behind it "losing points" his reason for not paying it any attention seemed valid to me. Maybe that is a newb way to think, but I have seen people go under fire for doing the opposite and questioning an out of the gate vote that had been stated to have no reasoning other than as such. Grasping to find something that isn't there?

 

 

 

 

it was tone. one post i liked for its the tone  the other caused that to be lost.

 

As for getting jumped on for reacting to a joke vote    that depends on HOW you react you can get town read just off your reaction to something. or scum read.

 

eg  some one asked AJ once a simple question   was probably are u scum. he answered with one word. I immeadiately voted him off that reaction + my gut +meta  he flipped scum.  other eg  i have correctly town read Zander off his intro post. sometimes it doesnt take much and its often the simple questions/things that actually trip people up.

 

As for grasping something that isnt there  who was i voting at EOD??  it wasnt alf. in fact im leaning town on alf   so what am i grasping for? I can tell you    responses. THATS how you form reads.

 

 

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 5:50 PM, Shanti said:

 

  On 6/7/2017 at 10:21 AM, dicetosser1 said:

oh god someone gave the QLDer V.....

 

 

as for nyn   i think shes in a mood.  not gonna get an accurate read on her like this

 

Noncommittal and I disagree. Avoidance tactic?

 

 

umm who is noncommital? you talking about me or nyn here?

 

 

This is from Shanti

 

 

  On 6/7/2017 at 11:26 AM, dicetosser1 said:

i already answered this

 

i dont put this being a real claim past shad. One of these days im gonna lynch him for this and he will flip mafia. hes tricksy enuff to think he can get away with it and probably figures that if he keeps doing it it probably raises his chances more of getting away with it

 

I dont ever see nyn doing this for real. its not her style. 

 

 

I'm not satisfied with this answer. Can't explain why exactly. Just doesn't sit right or ring true to me.

 

 

 

tell you what   when u have as much experience as me with those two then u can argue with me about it

 

 

 

  On 6/10/2017 at 12:05 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 6:38 PM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 10:42 AM, dicetosser1 said:

shad should be lynched but im not gonna waste my breath on it

Is this literally just for the wolf head image?

Hey check it out:

Dice, I'm scum!
 

oooooooooooo

 

Try harder.

 

 

bite me.

 

[WolfbrotherKronos]

fluff

  On 6/10/2017 at 12:25 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 8:45 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

Ima change my avatar. I think it's just too scary.

 

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 8:48 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

Here we go, how is this one?

 

 

change the damned thing BACK!!!

 

I keep having to scroll back up to see who im reading cause itsd weird!

 

 

votes cuth/nyn to hammer

  On 6/10/2017 at 8:14 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 10:31 PM, Tigraine said:

Okay so I've been in and out of service today cause I had to come do laundry at my father-in-law's house.


I've done a reads list for some not for some but I feel like atm it doesn't even matter. What matters is that Cuth/Nyn you ARE scum 100%. I think it's downright dirty to get on here and try to bring personal stuff into a conversation to hide that you are scum and honestly can't believe you haven't been called out by the mod for it. How is that not a personal attack? But I turned you two in last night instead of DPR (which I go for almost every single time I'm a cop in a game with him) because he was away and busy and I knew we had time to deal with him later. But the point is that you are mafia aligned. I really don't care that I will probably be NKed now because people getting on here and finding your personal attacks funny is so far off from what I thought the people on here were like.

But that being said [v] Cuth/Nyn [/v]

 

vote cuth/nyn

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 10:35 PM, Tigraine said:

For what it's worth, here's where I got on my reads list

Shad-

Shanti- I believe she is town. She's getting very passionate about her arguments like she did last game and she was town. I feel she would be in a lighter/less serious mood if she were scum.

DPR- hope his grandmother is okay. As hard as it is for me to even type these words, DPR is town/null

Adella- it's actually you that i meant the foreboding post for. Ill search it out and quote it for you.

Cuth/Nyn- 100% scum, you guys know it and I know it so no need to beat around the bush.

Alf-

Killa/Kronos- Killa, sorry that foreboding was meant for Adella. Other than that I actually kinda agree with Adella's "commentary" comment. You aren't playing like you have been and I don't know if it's because you are a Hydra or scum. You usually have much more detailed opinions.

Cass- I'm curious as to why you found it suspicious that Alf didn't question Dice's joke vote then wondered at why Dice himself didn't question it. He explained early enough that it was a joke why was a lack of response from either of them afterwards a deal to you? I'm not hating the rest of your gameplay, you're getting in and asking questions, asking everyone for reads list but other than quoting other and saying 'move this one here" or "drop that one there" I didn't see an actual reads list from you. Can you give us one pleeeeeaaaaasssseeee? But I am leaning heavily town on you atm because of your questioning and interactions.

Dice- you come in, joke vote Alf then explain that vote to Cass and then question Alf as to why he didn't question it. Had he questioned it you would've said it was scummy for questioning an obvious joke vote. The fact that you dedicated 9 or 10 of your posts to that cause wouldn't be a big deal if you had pages of posts but you don't. You have something around 25 now. So that makes it a pretty big deal imo especially when you tried to downplay it. To top that off, when I called you out on that blatant downplay, you conveniently ignore it and say I'm too focused on it. Of course I am, almost half of your post count was about that. I especially don't like that you only questioned him on it after Cass called you out on not asking. I havent took you for the type of player that reacts in that fashion to avoid suspicion. Other than that you have twice (at least) pseudo defended gameplay from Nyn who is scum

 

first off with all the colours ALL of those have been answered   for someone who knows EXACTLY how many posts i i have I hope u actually read them.

 

reds been answered  i took his post as a response. I will also thank you not to tell me what I will or will not think tyvm. You have not played with me enuff to even make a guess let alone KNOW what i would do. And for the record you are totally wrong. it all depends on HOW they respond WHEN they do it and WHAT they say, cause you know I actually READ peoples posts if im going to talk about them.

 

 

Blue  hmmm i wonder why???  would that be because some opf it was the actual conversation and then the rest is responding to people asking about the conversation? I think it is!!

 

and I will give you a really big word to the wise   if you are someone easily offended in a mafia game Id suggest you dont try me regarding post counts. Cause  as it has been before the responses will be extremely blunt. And I wont be apologetic about it.

 

purple asking the same already answered question twice in one post. seriously?? give me a break.

 

 

 

Dice on tigs claim

  On 6/10/2017 at 8:22 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 11:56 PM, Tigraine said:

So Dice what do you think of my claim?

 

I find it interesting cause Alignment cop is no role title ive seen  its not even listed on maifawiki  and yes i realise you may be describing it.  and then theres the fact that ure claiming a normal cop in a sooh game. When thinking about this game i totally gamed the mod in my head. in my head sooh tends to role cops and BG type roles rather then straight cop doc roles. Shes been infected by pizza after all :D   doesnt mean she WONT use a normal cop but I wouldnt expect it. .

 

As for the rest you claimed cop I vote with the cop. its pretty simple really. either we get mafia today or we get mafia tomorrow. 

 

Not sure why you want to make a big deal of what i think of ure claim but thats what i think.

 

 

 

  On 6/10/2017 at 8:27 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 6/10/2017 at 12:51 AM, Sooh said:

I'm going to bed. Be awfully good to one another <3

 

If there is a hammer, please stop posting and wait for me to come back. Thank you!!

 

Sooh  I asm disapointed.  :(  you almost had it!

 

 

shoulda been

 

 

 

 

or

 

 

 

 

 

  On 6/10/2017 at 8:56 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 6/10/2017 at 5:36 AM, Shad_ said:

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 11:50 PM, dicetosser1 said:

i think he should be lynched just for claiming wolf like he did. And yes im aware nyn did the same sort of post the difference is style Shad is tricky and somewhat arrogant about mafia he is the type that will be a wolf and claim it playing on people to not believe anyone would do this.

Ok so

 

I rand town 62% of the time

 

You see me claim scum 100% of the time, usually to screw with Zander or Cass or you or someone I know it will give the willies to if town.

 

And to be fair you generally do want to lynch me every game, though I'm used to more effort than this irt my slot.

 

Why is the intro joke enough in this case and as a matter of general curiosity why do you find this reasoning remotely logical?

 

 

red  im sick and tired of pushing town to lynch people i  think are scum and being ignored. Doesnt seem like enuff people think ure scum to do it so im just not gonna bother, They wake up i will happily lynch you. If i turn out to be right I will also happily tell them i told you so. If im wrong you get something else to use against me in future games.

 

blue  intro has been enuff for me to make calls on people in LOTS of games. I yelled and screamed about Tom one game but people didnt listen til late game   and i think he got peeked  ive called people town off one post.  Its got only a very little to do with logic.  the logic is anyone who does that should be auto lynched. You are tricky and ballsy enuff to do it and assume you will get away with it. The rest is my gut and my gut doesnt have logic. It jumped so ure scum. simple

 

 

 

  On 6/10/2017 at 8:58 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 6/10/2017 at 6:52 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 6/9/2017 at 11:50 PM, dicetosser1 said:

i think he should be lynched just for claiming wolf like he did. And yes im aware nyn did the same sort of post the difference is style Shad is tricky and somewhat arrogant about mafia he is the type that will be a wolf and claim it playing on people to not believe anyone would do this.

This is interesting in light of the red read on Cuth (and therefore on nyn)

That she apparently DID do it as scum, and dice is trying to talk it down.

If Cuth does indeed flip scum, gonna take a good look at dice.

 

 

make sure you read my posts then cause i already answered this at least twice

 

 

 

  On 6/10/2017 at 8:59 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 6/10/2017 at 8:39 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

Dice hammered.

Stop posting.

 

dammit

 

[WolfbrotherKronos]

Wow - I never do WoT's lol

 

I figured out what is poking me about Dice - seems stuck on shad quite a bit for what I see as something that is null.  Defends someone else when she did the same and then votes that person laying down the hammer.

[WolfbrotherKronos]

I'm willing to vote Dice - but if I counted correctly, that will put him at L-1, We have time and I'd rather not rush a lynch and want to talk to my other head first.

 

 

She's rocking with Metallica right now.

[Shanti]

  On 6/12/2017 at 1:00 AM, WolfbrotherKronos said:

I'm willing to vote Dice - but if I counted correctly, that will put him at L-1, We have time and I'd rather not rush a lynch and want to talk to my other head first.

 

 

She's rocking with Metallica right now.

Takes 5 to lynch

[DPR]

  On 6/12/2017 at 12:55 AM, WolfbrotherKronos said:

Wow - I never do WoT's lol

 

I figured out what is poking me about Dice - seems stuck on shad quite a bit for what I see as something that is null.  Defends someone else when she did the same and then votes that person laying down the hammer.

 

 

Wolf, I think it's worth noting that a Cop peek was the reason he went from defending Nyn to voting Nyn. 

 

Honestly, I'd say Shad is much more likely to tease being scum than Nyn. 

 

And that's exactly why depending on meta is flimsy.

 

Gotta go with the here and now, motivations and play. 

 

Even BFG was just asking why she would reveal the way she did, then giving us the answer with the remark about 18 months - damn - I'd try something new too. heh

[DPR]

Peeps, if you are voting dice over an emoji instead of BFG over a reveal, we need to have a looooong talk about where you're getting your koolaid. Just sayin'.

[Shanti]

  On 6/12/2017 at 1:09 AM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

Peeps, if you are voting dice over an emoji instead of BFG over a reveal, we need to have a looooong talk about where you're getting your koolaid. Just sayin'.

*shrug* it wasn't just an emoji that did it for me. As I said, I believe her reveal, it's distracting, but I believe it. Dice remains my #1 scum so to not vote him would be unproductive for me.

[DPR]

  On 6/12/2017 at 1:14 AM, Shanti said:

 

  On 6/12/2017 at 1:09 AM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

Peeps, if you are voting dice over an emoji instead of BFG over a reveal, we need to have a looooong talk about where you're getting your koolaid. Just sayin'.

*shrug* it wasn't just an emoji that did it for me. As I said, I believe her reveal, it's distracting, but I believe it. Dice remains my #1 scum so to not vote him would be unproductive for me.

 

 

 

Fair enough. Gotta go with the instincts.

[WolfbrotherKronos]

  On 6/12/2017 at 1:07 AM, Shanti said:

 

  On 6/12/2017 at 1:00 AM, WolfbrotherKronos said:

I'm willing to vote Dice - but if I counted correctly, that will put him at L-1, We have time and I'd rather not rush a lynch and want to talk to my other head first.

 

 

She's rocking with Metallica right now.

Takes 5 to lynch

 

 

Right and you put him at three votes - my vote would put him at L-1

[WolfbrotherKronos]

  On 6/12/2017 at 1:17 AM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

 

  On 6/12/2017 at 1:14 AM, Shanti said:

 

  On 6/12/2017 at 1:09 AM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

Peeps, if you are voting dice over an emoji instead of BFG over a reveal, we need to have a looooong talk about where you're getting your koolaid. Just sayin'.

*shrug* it wasn't just an emoji that did it for me. As I said, I believe her reveal, it's distracting, but I believe it. Dice remains my #1 scum so to not vote him would be unproductive for me.

 

 

 

Fair enough. Gotta go with the instincts.

 

 

Basically this.

[WolfbrotherKronos]

  On 6/12/2017 at 2:13 AM, WolfbrotherKronos said:

 

  On 6/12/2017 at 1:07 AM, Shanti said:

 

  On 6/12/2017 at 1:00 AM, WolfbrotherKronos said:

I'm willing to vote Dice - but if I counted correctly, that will put him at L-1, We have time and I'd rather not rush a lynch and want to talk to my other head first.

 

 

She's rocking with Metallica right now.

Takes 5 to lynch

 

 

Right and you put him at three votes - my vote would put him at L-1

 

 

My fault - I thought you had placed the third vote on Dice

 

[v]dice[/v]

[WolfbrotherKronos]

Have to study for my exams so I'm heading out.

[Shanti]

  On 6/11/2017 at 10:46 PM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 6/11/2017 at 11:40 AM, BFG said:

HARDCLAIM SURVIVOR win con F6

 

The wincon is important because it means I can't mafia side at lylo (since the game didn't start 8v4v1)

 

Which means I am now self resolving

 

I was shot N1, I would guess PR hunting since I was quiet although I would have thought that Nyn would know that activity is dependent on time so vig is possible

 

vote BFG

 

you arnt town you die. simple. 

 

my thinking on some of what you have said

 

the F6 wincon makes no sense, especially added to a BPV in a BASIC game. Dont SKs usually get BPVs not  survivors? The mod types can answer that cause i dont know for sure but its in my head

 

you have said you have to side with town. How so? What happens if it seems scum starts dominating? What happens if it gets right to the wire? Scum might get to a spot where they can FORCE you to side with them. I know. Yates did it to me.

 

 

  On 6/11/2017 at 12:22 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

Awesome. All the work I did making a post for when night ended didn't get saved.

 

Ok short version, from memory.

 

My experience with DPR was when he was 3p, and therefore not scum hunting. He was story telling. I don't see that here, so I feel good about him.

 

Nyn posted something about getting Tigs and Adella mixed up. I don't see her doing that about her teammate, so Adella looks good.

 

Don't know what to make about the DPR/Shad interactions. It comes off as simply not understanding each other, but that's null.

 

Shanti had a post when she was defending herself that came off as very organic and genuine. Got buko town vibes from it. I will pull it later.I

 

Dice has explained why he went after Shad and not Nyn. Because iho Nyn doesn't do that as scum. And yet she clearly did. Biggest reason I have rn to read someone as scum. Feels like not wanting to bring attention to a teammate.

 

[V]Dice[/v]

 

Heres a challenge for you Eldrick. Go find me examples of nyn claiming scum with her first post. You do that and I'll admit to a faulty memory.

 

 

 

 

 

  On 6/11/2017 at 2:56 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

 

  On 6/11/2017 at 2:51 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 6/11/2017 at 2:47 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

 

I said the same thing.

 

I said the neither Cuth nor Nyn played comfortably as scum, based on my experience playing with both. 

 

I'm not clearing dice - I'm not clearing anyone (maybe Shanti for obvious reasons) but I saw it the same way he did. I just need to go back and see if he said it before or after I did.

 

 

pretty sure it was before. While you were away

 

 

 

 

ok im gonna be in blue inside this one

 

 

  On 6/11/2017 at 5:33 PM, Shanti said:

 

 

 

Dice- I re-ISO'd you here and in P+C. Your "rapid-fire" voting is much different this game than that. I haven't played any other game with you, so I'm going on the one I have. You pretty well immediately started defending Nyn, which is not a good look at this point, and I cannot tell if your interaction with Shad at that point is genuine or distancing. Seems pretty hardcore for you compared to P+C. You were skeptical of people in your first few posts in P+C but didn't tunnel on them and certainly didn't vote them. What did you mean in response to my question about Shads vote switch not making sense to me and you answering with "Consolidation"? You have been biased towards Shad from the beginning, claiming he's scum for doing things Nyn did, but Nyn just wasn't scum in your eyes literally from the start. How does that look to you at this point? Nyn WAS scum, and if Shad is scum for doing what Nyn did, but you were defending scum, does that make you all three scum? Your posting is consistent as far as count goes, 2 pages this game, 2 pages last game, but you were also Hydra last game so having the same amount of posting despite that is different. Your tone towards Shad through this entire game is so argumentative I don't know why, and can't put my finger on it. Maybe it is lingering thoughts to maybe you being scummates with Nyn. Or maybe you're trying to throw doubt his way to frame him. I'll know more of this picture when I ISO him. But for now I will throw this quote from DPR that you yourself quoted, but unless I read wrong, you ignored... why quote it then ignore it? I'll ask a similar question to Shad about this quote. 

 

 

 

a reason for switching your vote at the last minute is consolidation. Making SURE it doesnt go Random. It most often considered a towny thing but not always

 

now for you and ELDRICK  lets take a look at what a defence is shall we? A defence is where someone mounts an argument where they make a substantial case for someone not doing/being something. Any lawyers who defends their client with a couple of lines is gonna get sued when he loses. I offered two things re Nyn  that she doesnt claim wolf out the gate and that she seemed to be in a mood  cause she was trolling. It got said more then once because people kept harping on about it. I also didnt say ANYTHING about nyn til asked by cass so "straight away" is a stretch Shanti.

I also explained why i view it differently for shad,. if you wanna go thru my games shanti you will find I have a large habit of jumping on people for doing what shad did. And i have been right. but it also depends who does it. how they do it. my feeligns about that person.

 

Tunneling. Actually I tend to tunnel when i really think im right. I just keep on and on about it. particualrly as people dont listen to me.

 

i will tell you what i basically told your sister   dont come at me about post counts post counts mean nothing and that argument tends to p me off REAL quick

 

 

 

"IMO, Town Shad would have looked at Dice as scum aiming for a mislynch and Scum Shad defends the comment made about him."

 

can you give me where this quote is? i remember him saying it but dont remember quoting it

 

 

 

On to a few more brow raising quotes of yours

 

"i think he should be lynched just for claiming wolf like he did. And yes im aware nyn did the same sort of post   the difference is style  Shad is tricky and somewhat arrogant about mafia  he is the type that will be a wolf and claim it playing on people to not believe anyone would do this.

 

 

nyn isnt. thats not her style. she never claims unless she HAS too  and even then i think thereve been games where shes been lynched without claiming."

 

So you've spent most of your content trying to prove Shad IS scum, and Nyn was not. In light of things I'm tempted to lean towards trying to frame Shad. Either way I'll figure that out in his ISO, but to me you have secured your spot in the scum pile. Pending anything major jumping out in the rest of the ISO's, my vote is currently headed in your direction, but I will wait until I'm finished with everyone to make the final call on that. 

 

 

So because I think someone is scum and go after them Im scum? Seriously?

 

And because i think someone ISNT scum im also scum?

 

So how exactly do i get to be Town? cause according to you i cant scum hunt and i cant town hunt  and i cant stay on the fence about someone

 

 

 

dicetosser1, on 07 Jun 2017 - 07:26 AM, said:

  On 6/7/2017 at 11:26 AM, dicetosser1 said:

i already answered this

 

i dont put this being a real claim past shad. One of these days im gonna lynch him for this and he will flip mafia. hes tricksy enuff to think he can get away with it and probably figures that if he keeps doing it it probably raises his chances more of getting away with it

 

I dont ever see nyn doing this for real. its not her style. 

 

 

"I'm not satisfied with this answer. Can't explain why exactly. Just doesn't sit right or ring true to me."

That is a quote grabbed from me in reference to you, and I still feel the same. To which you answered....

 

"tell you what   when u have as much experience as me with those two then u can argue with me about it"

 

[Game thread]Magic The Gathering

 Posted by dicetosser1 on Yesterday, 01:05 AM in DM Mafia Games

Shad_, on 09 Jun 2017 - 2:38 PM, said:

  On 6/9/2017 at 6:38 PM, Shad_ said:

 

dicetosser1, on 09 Jun 2017 - 06:42 AM, said:

  On 6/9/2017 at 10:42 AM, dicetosser1 said:

shad should be lynched but im not gonna waste my breath on it

Is this literally just for the wolf head image?

 

Hey check it out:

 

Dice, I'm scum!

 

oooooooooooo

 

Try harder.

 

 

bite me.

 

This all reads fake to me. 

 

 

it is a little because what i was GOING to say was not that tame but i thought id better not get modkilled or break CoC which i just DONT do.

 

 

Then my favorite of all... after ALL of your defending Nyn, and AFTER her fate was pretty well sealed... THEN you jump on the wagon. As a last attempt to try to make yourself look a bit better and distance? Gave nothing more than the quote by Tig's reveal.

 

[Game thread]Magic The Gathering

 Posted by dicetosser1 on Yesterday, 09:14 AM in DM Mafia Games

Tigraine, on 09 Jun 2017 - 6:31 PM, said:

  On 6/9/2017 at 10:31 PM, Tigraine said:

Okay so I've been in and out of service today cause I had to come do laundry at my father-in-law's house.

 

 

I've done a reads list for some not for some but I feel like atm it doesn't even matter. What matters is that Cuth/Nyn you ARE scum 100%. I think it's downright dirty to get on here and try to bring personal stuff into a conversation to hide that you are scum and honestly can't believe you haven't been called out by the mod for it. How is that not a personal attack? But I turned you two in last night instead of DPR (which I go for almost every single time I'm a cop in a game with him) because he was away and busy and I knew we had time to deal with him later. But the point is that you are mafia aligned. I really don't care that I will probably be NKed now because people getting on here and finding your personal attacks funny is so far off from what I thought the people on here were like.

 

But that being said Vote: Cuth/Nyn

 

"vote cuth/nyn"

 

Reads oh so scummy to me. 

Really need to hear from you, but after all that I've read, not sure it will even help at this point. 

 

 

More coming, guys things are getting hectic where I am and I also need to start getting ready for a 6 hour drive home. Still fully intend to ISO everyone else, though. 

 

 

 

 

so what? you want me to ignore a cop view? never happen unless I am the cop and they fake claimed. Im not the cop so this game that was never gonna happen.

 

heres a hint for you   people coming into line on a person after a cop view means nothing. EVERYBODY will do it regardless of alignment regardless of if they were defending a person or were attacking the cop themselves. like 90+% of the time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Green- post counts don't matter THAT much on their own. The content of limited posts, however, does. Threatening to get p'd off real quick won't bother me. Even actually getting p'd off won't bother me. Just calling it like I see it. 

 

Orange- 

 

[Game thread]Magic The Gathering

 Posted by dicetosser1 on 10 June 2017 - 12:18 AM in DM Mafia Games

DreadPirateRoberts, on 09 Jun 2017 - 12:29 PM, said:

  On 6/9/2017 at 4:29 PM, DreadPirateRoberts said:

 

IMO, Town Shad would have looked at Dice as scum aiming for a mislynch and Scum Shad defends the comment made about him. 

 

Nynaeve, on 07 Jun 2017 - 10:24 AM, said:

  On 6/7/2017 at 2:24 PM, Nynaeve said:

Dice's exchange with sir alfred read awkward. I still don't quite get the exchange. But to be fairi read it loosely. So an eyebrow raise

 

Good point and a concern. It was a weird point for Dice to get that excited about. I've liked other play that I've seen, but his back and forth with Alfred will need to be explained.

 

@ Dice - Will you explain why you chose this point to be very active about? You posted about it more than anything else, so it's obviously important to you.

 

 

 

Shad_, on 07 Jun 2017 - 1:30 PM, said:

  On 6/7/2017 at 5:30 PM, Shad_ said:

 

 

 

its only very active because i dont have many posts but ok

 

 not responding to a joke vote is often a bugbear for me    there are exeptions like if i vote cass for being a maroon  i dont really expect a response because we both know what it is. But if its a newbie thats a different story. i dont know if alfs played 2 games or a million games. But hes brand new here and if he gets voted out the gate by someone hes never spoken to i expect SOME kinda comment  even if its a cheeky thank you.

 

but the main reason that seemed very active is that we were both here in REAL TIME. we were talking back and forth and ive formed an opinion on him which is the whole point.

 

 

The reactions afterwards are what im most interested in.

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It didn't copy paste right and while ISO'd it doesn't give me the option to quote, my guess on second read was that it wasn't your focus as you were answering something beneath it. But I will make it a point to bring it up to Shad.

 

Red- Going after scum would be just fine if in doing so you didn't defend someone for doing the same thing that ended up being scum.

For repeatedly reiterating that you think someone ISN'T scum that turns out to BE scum is scummy. 

These things on their own probably wouldn't be AS scummy...but just as 1 + 1 = 2 

Scummy + Scummy = Scum.

 

Pink- It wouldn't have looked so bad if you'd had more content than JUST defending Nyn against being scum reads and calling Shad scum. But after all of your ISO, seeing you hammer Cuth looked like a scummate having no choice so as to appear more town. I don't buy your arguments, sir, but nice try. 

[Shad_]

*ahem*

[Shad_]

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