[Advanced] Ghost in the Shell - MAFIA WIN

[ed2funy]

 

 

 

 

 

Im not good at guessing games :(

 

And no, im not voting DPR. Should I be? Did I phrase that weirdly? Hes the least likely to be wolf of the wolf reads is what the phrasing was meant to communicate.

 

Also, you cant shame me because I am impossible to shame.

 

I read it as he was your top Scum read???

 

Just please lay out in order your 3 person wtl list with some reasoning and say i am town again in a new post.

 

i know im annoying man, but the meds make me dumber aand makes things much more difficult then normal....lol

 

please just bare with me boo?!?!?!

 

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3

Bear with you is all I do. The next post after this will contain your town post.

 

Top 3? In no particular order.

TLM - Cause screw it, I wanna see what happens. Not a wolf read, but a WTL cause its an advanced game and I wanna play with the fun rules.

Niniel - Following. Her posts are opportunistic and her only other wolf reads in the game were Tigs, Darthe and Ed. 3 players who had barely posted at the time. Feels like shes piggy backing off of DPR to me.

Killa - Some of her posts contradict other posts. Shes very confusing, and either shes intentionally misrepping or shes interpreting things in some very strange ways. I have never played with her before, so I dunno if shes normally like this or what but its pinged me.

 

 

 

Lenlo, did you forget about TLM or do you not know what he is still? 

I'm leaning no on lynching him. 

 

Kind of actually agree with your Nini read at this point, tbh. But not Killa, I've played in all of her games so far and this just feels like her normal self. 

 

 

I havnt forgotten about him, the slot just hasnt done anything so theres nothing to address. I wanna see what happens if it is lynched and at this point, theres really no good case made for killing him or keeping him alive. It all comes down to each persons opinion. Figured my efforts were better directed elsewhere.

 

Well, no lynching TLM today. 

Let's direct those efforts to figure out if Seph is dense or scum, and why DPR hasn't been lynched yet. 

[Zander?]

 

 

 

So up through page 15 now, and I have noticed I attributed alot of Sephs pushing of Cory/TLM (He was the main culprit of that) to DPR. So I wanna retract some of the wolf read/statement made about him. Seph gets all of that transferred to him.

So your transferring all of your dpr case onto me? Lol OK then.

I think you should be more worried about yourself, you literally voted Adam to make Zander happy. What person does that as town?

Anyways I am interested to hear your case based on the speculation of Cory which you said was dumb.

Have you made any cases besides ones around tlm?

First, never said I was moving the case. I am rereading and building as I go, providing updates as I do so. Dont make things up.

 

Second, wow such threat. More worried about myself? How about no. I dont care if I die, if my catchup/case catches a wolf. Besides, you havnt yet thrown out a case so theres nothing to dispute/worry about. Adam would have been lynched whether I voted him or not. The kind of person who does that is the kind of person who knows the vote is irrelevant and who also knows what its like when Zander tunnels him into oblivion regardless of his alignment.

 

Finally, its all in production. Speculating on who TLM was is stupid, but you constantly pushing it isnt a good sign. When someone does alot of stupid things, there has to be a reason behind it.

OK so please do me this favor.

 

Bring up any post after I said i was done specing about tlm towards soon I believe?

Every post in this game.or I would be 85% of yours are geared towards tlm, even here on day 2. I literally stopped specing and started playing. Something you are lacking.

 

My case on adam, and my case on ed have 0 to do with the subject,

 

Dr has a case on you and I have him above my Zander read at the moment. He is never scum In this game imo.

 

 

You now have DPR higher then me who you said youd never vote and that Im not be ever be lynched because...#raisins?!!?!?!?!

 

You need to try to watch the typos too some man some of your posts im guessing/assuming what youre trying to say at some points also who the heck is Tim?!?!?!?

 

like every time i see soon i assume you mean sooh...?!?!!?

[ed2funy]

 

I just really want ed dead. Would probably only switch to lenlo, but some of this might just be omgus.

 

He just is no taking any sense

 

Let's get a hard reads list from ed, Tigs & Lenlo. All 3 are due. 

 

 

Working on mine, scumbag. Where's your D2 list? 

[ed2funy]

 

 

 

 

 

God damnit DPR that was a legit thing I want someone to do. I randed town for all my games. Yet I read as scum until the end when it is solid obvious I am town. So f off dude. I am just trying to learn so I can get better at this game. Thats why I said for some one to volunteer to help me after this game is done. That doesnt help me now and that was not the point anyway. NM I will PM a few people after to see if they are up for it.

 

*flips table*

 

Rofl. Oh god. I am laughing and mad at the same time. How does that work?

 

I need a bucket of ice water to stick my head in to obtain some clarity.

 

 

'Cause I'm talented like that. Also, there was a healthy dose of snarkasm in my previous post, so come back in off the ledge.

 

 

If DPR is Scum I feel like this may almost spew Killa Town.

 

Thoughts???

 

 

How does this particular post spew her as Town? 

I'd think the part where he actually commented that it was scummy as being what would indicate her being town if he's mafia.

 

 

 

Unless im not understanding your last sentence thats exactly what Im saying??

 

I think if it actually Scum!DPR, this comment here in this post could wuit possibly spew her Town.  Cause to me it kinda reads like he feel's that he may have pushed her a tad to hard/far and is kinda like apologizing in  DPR kinda way so to speak.

 

Again its only IF DPR's Scum and with that its making me think its highly unlikely theyre w/w.

 

Do you agree or disagree with the reasoning I have and or the conclusion Im drawing from it atp and why or why not?

 

 

I was referring to the post below, like if DPR is scum (he is), then that one would make Killa seem scum more than the one you quoted and bolded:

 

 

 

 

Also in relation to DPR and Seph sussing Lenlo now... I feel I little better about why lenlo's posts struck me as funny. Though to me it was funny haha more than funny as in wtf. I got called out by a few folks for saying that about Lenlo and now that the well known players are doing so it becomes legit and not scummy at all. Funny that.

 

After the game is over can some one help me figure out why I read so scummy every game even though I am town. I would be very grateful.

 

Scummy af imo.

 

 

 

[Zander?]

 

 

@dice what did you think of tigs catch up posts?

Most people are reading her based on d1 content and I'm curious to see what more people think of her catchup

 

I think theyre extremely bare minimum and fence sitty and a way too staggered out.

 

 

 

 

Yo seph I think im a wolf?

You should probably seek help for that.

Www.afraidImlunch.com

 

 

I dont see Scum!speh making this post,  Like I dont see why he would need/want or think he needed to.

 

Does anyone think differently and if so why???

 

 

 

 

For

What do you think about tigs latest catchup posts?

Also curious what you think about me/ed and if you think Leno is the best lynch at the moment still?

 

I'm pretty much in the "kill it with fire" camp on Tigs. She's not new to mafia, she just hasn't been around in a while. I'm obviously sympathetic to getting used to the new style, but that thing where she posted on other threads and avoided this one went up sideways. Now she's posting, but it's not anything that couldn't be manufactured - there are no original reads or anything that says she's being genuine.

 

I re-read ed's stuff and I see the difference you pointed out - there are weird bumps in his flow where he does the "insert logic here" thing. From the start I made a point to not fall into my same views about him, but that is different than what he did in the other two games.

 

He and Tigs know each other, and after last game I seriously doubt they are both scum deciding to lay low. So if one flips dirty, I doubt the other is.

 

I re-read Lenlo. I still like him for scum. Bottom line is he did focus on TLM all day by bringing it up over and over, and regardless of my interpretation of his points, he turned around and voted TLM. To me, that's anti-town, pure and simple. He gets a newly trademarked No Bueno!

 

Blue- OMG Im actually agreeing with DPR...either my read here is GOAT or DPR is Scum....(i wish cory or iron were here for this comment for context or even to have shad playing...lolololol)

 

Red- Ive been debating baack and forth to myself if they could actually be w/w and sometimes i think they can be and others I doubt it.

 

FML

 

And DPR's body odor is NO BUENO!!!!

 

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

I'm arguing in my head with my "dumb prickly read" of tigs.

 

Zander why her over ed?

 

 

Not sure with what you mean with your Tig comment here.

 

I have Tig as more Scummy then Ed, tho as I mentioned I have Ed as a Scum read as well, and like I said ive been struggling with if i think they can be w/w or not.

 

Ive touched on my reasoning with TIg, I think the issue is here is that were reading her catch up posts completely differently.

 

 

 

I just really want ed dead. Would probably only switch to lenlo, but some of this might just be omgus.

 

He just is no taking any sense

 

FML man

Are you trying to say not making any sense or not taking ant stances and is it Lenlo or Ed youre saying whatever it is youre saying about!?!?!?!

 

 

 

 

Blue- OMG Im actually agreeing with DPR...either my read here is GOAT or DPR is Scum....(i wish cory or iron were here for this comment for context or even to have shad playing...lolololol)

 

Red- Ive been debating baack and forth to myself if they could actually be w/w and sometimes i think they can be and others I doubt it.

 

FML

 

And DPR's body odor is NO BUENO!!!!

 

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

 

 

 

You forgot the DPR is GOAT option. Just sayin'. 

 

 

Well if my read is right and youre not bussing then you obv GOAT too kitten <3

[Zander?]

 

I just really want ed dead. Would probably only switch to lenlo, but some of this might just be omgus.

 

He just is no taking any sense

 

Let's get a hard reads list from ed, Tigs & Lenlo. All 3 are due. 

 

 

Ya totally agree.   WTF IS HAPPENING.....FML.....IF YOURE SCUM IM GOING TO GO KIDNAP YOU AND LOCK YOU UP IN A AA DETOX CENTER!!!!!

 

Full lists with reasoning as these 3 are the overall consensus top 3 Scum reads imo.

 

 

 

I def have thoughts and stuffs but imma stay out of the thread for a bit longer for those "like ed and tig" who complain about my posting making it hard to catch up. which i get it can, say theyre gonna catch up they make like 1 post i believe in tigs case roughly and a couple, maybe,  for ed and as their pattern peace out without SHOWING THEYVE CAUGHT UP or really do much of anything continues.

 

By me staying it out a bit longer they have will continue to 0 legs to stand on as to why they havent.

 

 

Almost there. 

 

 

Thats what she said imo

[ed2funy]

 

 

 

 

 

 

First, on phone.

 

So I wanna point out for DPR, since he is conviently ignoring this fact, I never criticized the TLM spec, I criticized the Cory spec. 2 different things, so don't try to pretend voting TLM is counter to what I've said. It's not.

 

Second, TLM is the/a bad guy in the show Zander. Yeah, he's a less awesome V, but the good guys from this show are in the government (Sector 9 I think) so there's your perspective.

Lenlo. No one cares if you're in your phone. *looks off into distance as he debates throwing his phone* trust me, I know.

 

Will be looking for following up on DPR reaction on this. And later find those quotes if they haven't been posted, because there's a difference. If DPR is a wormy scum, you gotta pin him down fast and kill him. Or else he tries to lead a Lynch on you for not being as active as he'd like you to be. #rude

 

 

 

 

How did I get dragged into this? 

 

 

How did you not know you were part of that interaction with Lenlo? Scummy af

 

 

 

 

I posted my reaction to Lenlo before you posted this? 

 

Your attempt to loop me into your problems is noted. Now go ahead and post that reads list.

 

 

So then you know you were part of that interaction. And you know I was catching up as I read along. Soooooo, what's your issue with deflecting from the fact that you and Lenlo went back and forth on this? 

 

Also, coming up. I'll show you mine and you show me yours? *waggles eyebrows* 

[ed2funy]

 

 

Zander you think scum soon would kill Darth there?

 

ofc I think its possible.

 

And theres one really really obv reason.

 

I want you to tell me what it is so i dont have to question this post please!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tig Need you to type the words I am Town out to me please

 

Also want to see a 3 person WTL (Willing To Lynch) list with reasoning please!!!!!!

I'm working on my list for you but am really curious about this "i am town" deal. I don't care to state my alliance but I'm not sure I should. While people are going to say that seems scummy I'm just wondering if it's some kind of win condition for you or are you soft claiming LD?

 

Am I the only one that hasn't stated it? Does no one else find it odd? His 2nd or 3rd post stated he was town then he began asking immediately for everyone to say it. I'm not caught up but has anyone else expressed curiosity as to why you are asking this of people?

 

 

 

 

I'm sure this will be discussed as I read on, but why not just say it? 

 

I find it hard to believe a win condition would be to make everyone say something like that when it clearly would indicate a LD or fake claim. 

That'd be bastard modding, and DPR is playing this game not running it. 

 

Ya I dont know why either tho I have a possible idea why,,,,,because she's not Town....) her excuse was she thought i had some sort of special win con for getting people to do it, any EVEN IF I DID (which I dont but ill humor it)  shes played enough gamed to know that that would never b a Wincon for Scum ffs so at WORST I'd be 3rd party and if not Town so.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

i guess you don't do tiered lists over here

 

town:

you/sooh/nyn

wolves:

tig

 

Why wont you type the words I AM TOWN?!?!?!

 

I didnt ask for a teir list i asked for A 3 PERSON WILLING TO LYNCH LIST FFS

 

what in the world is the point of typing "I am town."?

 

It's not like scums would refuse to type it. We're playing a game where certain people are literally told to lie, and you think you can see through their lie by asking them to say they're town?

 

 

 

 

Overall, I've liked Sooh's posts. This seems... idk, if she's Town, I can get being frustrated, but why not just say it? If there is a LD, the people not saying it get immediately sussed. If there isn't, no harm done. 

 

Sooh, baby love, why you no like that? 

 

 

hmmmm caan you think of a reason someone wouldnt want to answer that ed.....??!?!?!?!!?

 

 

 

I need to move my vote. 

 

As for 3 suspects, I feel like Lenlo should have made more of a splash by now. Adam I kind of expected to be a bit dismissive like he has been. I'm not wanting to lynch Tigraine today I don't think. Could potentially see Ed as scum though.

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Ed[/v]

 

 

 

Okay, but for real,

Everyone who voted because of my activity about to get beat down. 

Seph's push on that was meta from four games. Show me actual raisins. 

 

I get not being here was bad form and all, but that isn't a reason to lynch. 

 

 

 

 

Why not just say it was more...idk, rhetorical? Like, I know the reasons someone wouldn't say it, so why not, yanno? If they're scum and there's a LD, they're going down for being caught or they'll be suspicious for not saying it. 

[DPR]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

First, on phone.

 

So I wanna point out for DPR, since he is conviently ignoring this fact, I never criticized the TLM spec, I criticized the Cory spec. 2 different things, so don't try to pretend voting TLM is counter to what I've said. It's not.

 

Second, TLM is the/a bad guy in the show Zander. Yeah, he's a less awesome V, but the good guys from this show are in the government (Sector 9 I think) so there's your perspective.

Lenlo. No one cares if you're in your phone. *looks off into distance as he debates throwing his phone* trust me, I know.

 

Will be looking for following up on DPR reaction on this. And later find those quotes if they haven't been posted, because there's a difference. If DPR is a wormy scum, you gotta pin him down fast and kill him. Or else he tries to lead a Lynch on you for not being as active as he'd like you to be. #rude

 

 

 

 

How did I get dragged into this? 

 

 

How did you not know you were part of that interaction with Lenlo? Scummy af

 

 

 

 

I posted my reaction to Lenlo before you posted this? 

 

Your attempt to loop me into your problems is noted. Now go ahead and post that reads list.

 

 

So then you know you were part of that interaction. And you know I was catching up as I read along. Soooooo, what's your issue with deflecting from the fact that you and Lenlo went back and forth on this? 

 

Also, coming up. I'll show you mine and you show me yours? *waggles eyebrows* 

 

 

 

What are you going on about? This is shite - get on with the reads or imma paint you in red. 

 

And, I only show my tip to Adam. You got a long ways to go before you see the iceberg.

[Zander?]

Well one thing that is bad for me this time is I am VT. The only thing that saved my bacon in murder mystery was that I was/claimed 1 shot doc.

 

Does the mafia know the names of the characters given out in our PMs?Thats just curiosity. I was looking at my role PM and wondered that. I was seeing if the character Shad gave me was used in any of his info dump posts. I searched the name and it did not come up. Going to go back and read all those again... 

 

Why the heck are you claiming here?!!?!?!?!?

 

Also in games that you can role claim in Mods will generally provide fake Town roles for Scum to claim.  And no Scum wouldnt be given the name of your character eitherl

 

 

I said most of your posts revolve around tlm and they do.

 

I also misread about the cases and tlm,your right you didnt. You call it giving you cap I'm trying to figure out the game.

 

Although speccing on the team without a flip is messing with me. I tend to do it often ><

 

Lol show me a game where I have any idea wtf I am doing...

 

I said if ed is Mafia or your vote looks like your saving him. If he flips goon or town I don't think it implies, or even looks that bad tbh.

 

Who is TIM?!!?!?!?!?!

 

Or wait fml....is that tlm (The Laughing Man!?!!?!?!?)

 

WELL IF SO ITS STILL YOUR FAULT FOR NOT USING CAPS!!!!!!!

 

lolololololol

 

 

 

 

So doing my D2 reread like usual, and big question. Post 93, Sooh claims that Hackers are town aligned, even though TLM is a terrorist in the series, and is using this reasoning to make TLM out like a town slot. What is the basis for this? My character isnt a hacker. Neither were any of the ones who have died.

 

helps to read the mods posts len  

 

see below

 

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This is an Advanced game. A healthy dose of creative thinking could be beneficial.

 

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Sample town role PMs:

 

 

Hacker, Town aligned

 

You are a member or sympathizer of Public Security Section 9, investigating cyberterrorism. You are a Hacker. You win when all threats to Town are eliminated. As a hacker, you can infiltrate anything connected to the global network once per night.

 

 

 

Vanilla Cyborg, Town aligned

 

You are a member or sympathizer of Public Security Section 9, investigating cyberterrorism. You are a Cyborg. You win when all threats to Town are eliminated.

 

 

 

Vanilla Human, Town aligned

 

You are a member or sympathizer of Public Security Section 9, investigating cyberterrorism. You are a minimally augmented Human. You win when all threats to Town are eliminated.

 

 

 

DAMNIT DICE I WANTED TO TROLL LEN SOME!!!!

 

Especially with what i noticed before tho I may have simply missed someone mentioning it to him in the meantime

 

 

 

 

So doing my D2 reread like usual, and big question. Post 93, Sooh claims that Hackers are town aligned, even though TLM is a terrorist in the series, and is using this reasoning to make TLM out like a town slot. What is the basis for this? My character isnt a hacker. Neither were any of the ones who have died.

 

Seriously?!?!?!?

 

derpcleardenied.gif

 

Yeah, I found the answer for that later when someone mentioned its in the opening post as a sample PM. Not sure how good a source that is for that, but it answered the question.

 

 

 

Ummmmm dude Dice posted the above post after you posted this so please show me who ITT mentioned it to you BEFORE Dice did......

[Lenlo]

 

 

 

So doing my D2 reread like usual, and big question. Post 93, Sooh claims that Hackers are town aligned, even though TLM is a terrorist in the series, and is using this reasoning to make TLM out like a town slot. What is the basis for this? My character isnt a hacker. Neither were any of the ones who have died.

 

Seriously?!?!?!?

 

derpcleardenied.gif

 

Yeah, I found the answer for that later when someone mentioned its in the opening post as a sample PM. Not sure how good a source that is for that, but it answered the question.

 

 

 

Ummmmm dude Dice posted the above post after you posted this so please show me who ITT mentioned it to you BEFORE Dice did......

 

In my reread that im doing? Someone mentioned that Hacker sample pm was in the mod post because someone else asked Sooh the same question I did back before page 15 or so. Lemme give you a timeline.

 

I start reread.

I get to page 5 or so and see Soohs post about Hackers.

I post asking Sooh the question, which you then react to.

I continue my reread, and find someone reference a sample pm in the opening of the game.

Dice posts to check the sample pm.

 

Boom.

[ed2funy]

@ed

 

so im flashing back on the Thak game we just finished and comparing to this.

 

you started out slow  ramped up when under pressure.

 

Tell me why I shouldnt lynch you here too?

 

I *always* start slow and ramp up as I go along. RL just kind of messes with the ratio more. 

And increase outward pressure as I get pressured, truth be told, as either alignment. It's why when DPR went after me in Fight Club toward the end, I really dug into him. We were both Town at that point. But same goes for Kaylee's game where he went after me and I dug in. He was scum. 

 

What you shouldn't do is lynch me off of half-based meta. Read my content and interactions now and see how those line up to those games, not just a general "he got more active later on" timeline kind of thing. 

[Nynaeve]

Morning. I'll only be able to catch up after i get off work later, so bear with me.

[ed2funy]

 

 

 

 

 

 

You may post.

 

 

 

Thats my character on the far right. I guess he wont be used in the little post stories until I get lynched or night killed.

 

Pretty cool set up. Nice Flavor.

 

Good job shad_

 

 

DPR I am not claiming anything ... well in my mind claiming vt is worthless. To me it seems the only claims that matter are the ones that could be figured out with out dying first. lol Which is special roles.

 

 

How many mis lynches can you make plus the night kills and still win? Like zander #themathishard

 

 

I remember you saying earlier that you don't have any knowledge of the source material - I'll have to go back and find that to confirm.

 

But if you did say that, how do you know who your character is?

 

I didn't get a pic in my role PM. 

 

 

 

My did. It says his name is Ishikawa and that is a vanilla human town aligned

 

Why exactly are you claiming? Mod said non-town have random fake claims given to them, so unless you have a good reason to claim, it feels like you're being pressured and pulling out that fake claim. 

[Zander?]

 

 

Well one thing that is bad for me this time is I am VT. The only thing that saved my bacon in murder mystery was that I was/claimed 1 shot doc.

 

Does the mafia know the names of the characters given out in our PMs?Thats just curiosity. I was looking at my role PM and wondered that. I was seeing if the character Shad gave me was used in any of his info dump posts. I searched the name and it did not come up. Going to go back and read all those again... 

 

 

Nope.

 

 

Terrible way to claim. 

 

Terrible way to pose townie.

 

This is weird and contrasts with your earlier confidence-oriented stuff. It's a tough sell trying pull off sassy, yet vulnerable.

 

 

TBF its only like her 2nd or 3rd game.

 

I mean ya not gonna lie the role claiming post and now the character is horribad but if she's Town she wouldnt likely know any better man.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You may post.

 

 

 

Thats my character on the far right. I guess he wont be used in the little post stories until I get lynched or night killed.

 

Pretty cool set up. Nice Flavor.

 

Good job shad_

 

 

DPR I am not claiming anything ... well in my mind claiming vt is worthless. To me it seems the only claims that matter are the ones that could be figured out with out dying first. lol Which is special roles.

 

 

How many mis lynches can you make plus the night kills and still win? Like zander #themathishard

 

 

ummmmmm you just role and char claimed so how are you not claiming.

 

 

 

 

 

You may post.

 

 

 

Thats my character on the far right. I guess he wont be used in the little post stories until I get lynched or night killed.

 

Pretty cool set up. Nice Flavor.

 

Good job shad_

 

 

DPR I am not claiming anything ... well in my mind claiming vt is worthless. To me it seems the only claims that matter are the ones that could be figured out with out dying first. lol Which is special roles.

 

 

How many mis lynches can you make plus the night kills and still win? Like zander #themathishard

 

 

I remember you saying earlier that you don't have any knowledge of the source material - I'll have to go back and find that to confirm.

 

But if you did say that, how do you know who your character is?

 

I didn't get a pic in my role PM. 

 

 

Nobody say nothing and let this DPR/Killa thing play out please, wanna see something.

[Shad_]

God help me how did I just get sucked into an hour long WInnie the Pooh movie at midnight?

[Shad_]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

 

Ed (1) - seph

 

Not Voting: Sooh, Dice, Killashandra, DPR, Niniel, Lenlo, Nynaeve, Zander, ed2funy, Tigraine

 

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

 

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

You may post.

 

 

 

Thats my character on the far right. I guess he wont be used in the little post stories until I get lynched or night killed.

 

Pretty cool set up. Nice Flavor.

 

Good job shad_

 

 

DPR I am not claiming anything ... well in my mind claiming vt is worthless. To me it seems the only claims that matter are the ones that could be figured out with out dying first. lol Which is special roles.

 

 

How many mis lynches can you make plus the night kills and still win? Like zander #themathishard

 

 

I remember you saying earlier that you don't have any knowledge of the source material - I'll have to go back and find that to confirm.

 

But if you did say that, how do you know who your character is?

 

I didn't get a pic in my role PM. 

 

I got a pick in miiiiiine.

 

 

 

FFS  man, let things play out ffs

 

 

@ed

 

so im flashing back on the Thak game we just finished and comparing to this.

 

you started out slow  ramped up when under pressure.

 

Tell me why I shouldnt lynch you here too?

 

You think eds playing like he did in nyns game where he was scum!?!!?

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

You may post.

 

 

 

Thats my character on the far right. I guess he wont be used in the little post stories until I get lynched or night killed.

 

Pretty cool set up. Nice Flavor.

 

Good job shad_

 

 

DPR I am not claiming anything ... well in my mind claiming vt is worthless. To me it seems the only claims that matter are the ones that could be figured out with out dying first. lol Which is special roles.

 

 

How many mis lynches can you make plus the night kills and still win? Like zander #themathishard

 

 

I remember you saying earlier that you don't have any knowledge of the source material - I'll have to go back and find that to confirm.

 

But if you did say that, how do you know who your character is?

 

I didn't get a pic in my role PM. 

 

I got a pick in miiiiiine.

 

 

I just checked - i stand corrected - I did get a pic.

 

But it was a single person pic - not a group pic. 

 

 

[v] DPR [/v]

 

outted scum is outted imo

[Zander?]

 

 

Zander- first of all, you're a 49ers fan? Been a tough few years on you huh darlin?

Anyway, I see you started your very first post saying you're town and then this post http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/100533-advanced-ghost-in-the-shell-night-1/?view=findpost&p=3782912 followed by requesting permission to edit the post. Reading it now, mixed with your first post out of the gate saying I am town, I guess I was just to daft to miss the claim insinuations. It's still very odd for me to have townies be so blatant.http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/100533-advanced-ghost-in-the-shell-night-1/?view=findpost&p=3783192

I can't figure out how you or anyone else thinks it is such a big stretch to assume your motives are possibly recruitment. Shad's OP mentioned possibly finding yourself in a QT so that was my very first thought. As well as when you started asking people to say "I am town" pretty much from the start. Questioning you on that, especially mixed with the mysterious TLM, just seems like good sense and seems like a good thing for us townies to do. I mean, you seem like an intelligent person...except for the 49ers thing, so why is it so hard for you to conceive of such a thing?

I'm not done with Zander but thought I'd post what I have.

I understand that it's hard for people to fathom why it would take so long to make a post of that's size but i am a single mom of three. While I'm ISOing someone I am also keeping a page open to keep up with what is currently being said in the thread. mix that with track meets, inspections and sleeping...I apologize that it's not up to standards.

 

IRT being a 49ers fan- FML.....tho Im pretty happy with Lynch;s 1st draft as a rookie GM for my 9ers tho.   Looking like if he continues to draft well and stays the course we should be ok after a 3-5 year rebuild.

 

As far as the editing my post part,  if you read shads answer to me asking to edit right after it, it was a joke about me messing up the spoilers tag when I asked him if i could fix the tags. So I dont know wtf kinda issue you have or better wording trying to push/shade me with.  You have an issue with my GOAT ability to Town tell with your blatant comment or am I missing something there???

 

And why did you link my olive branch comment to DPR for??!?!?!?

 

How in the heck to you assume me asking if people are Town is me trying to recruit them?!!?!?!? I checked the Database and youve played more games then I have and Ive played like 50 here on DM, you've never played with. read  game with or even heard of a Lie Detector!?!?!?!?!   I have no idea what youre even trying to say in the 2nd paragraph except for the bold which made me both lololololol and sadface.gif at the same time......

 

I can appreciate the single mother of 3 my dear!!!!  My mom was a single mother of just me....but believe i was like having 10 adhd kids hopped up on sugar and blow.....lololololol  And I dont know you wll so Im trying hard too not think of this as AtE but ok Ill give you the time thing here tho you saying you keep a tab open to respond when you totally didnt respond in real time talk when doing those just looks like youre trying to find/add reasons to it. 

 

Giving you the time thing tho still dont change the fact of all the other issues Ive already mentioned ITT tho so....

The editing post I thought was in the same context as the LD question. I thought that was your way of trying to get whichever person it was to say they were town before you actually came out and just asked everyone to.

 

I have been in games with a LD but they never revealed that early. And with the "creative thinking could be beneficial" ever present in the back of my mind, plus not knowing what TLM is, the "if you find yourself in a QT" I actually thought it was pretty reasonable to assume that there could be ulterior motives. Someone thought voting TLM may trigger something and your panties didn't bunch so that just added to the persona of the "this could trigger something" mentality.

 

When I said I keep an open tab that I have been checking on, it started after the post with my first reads. With that post, I had just read all of their posts and formulated an opinion which I posted. Then I realized that wasn't really the best way to do it because I'm not pointing to anything specifically and by the time I got to the end, I had forgotten what I thought about the beginning. So I have been reading a few posts, going to my notepad and putting my opinion, checking the current thread then going back to the ISOing. It's a process.

 

I'm trying miserably to adapt to how aggressive townies are in the way the game is played now. It may not be much but it seems like a whole different game at times. Instead of just focusing on who/why spmething is scummy, it's been more of "everyone agree that a specific person is town and we will follow their lead to the end. I'm more skeptical of the person everyone is following than anybody else because I feel like I need to show their true colors to save the town.

 

As for the 9ers, they've seemed to have a rough 7 or 8 years. Maybe a good year or two thrown in. But it's good to see someone stick with a team when they lose. Shows loyalty. Could be worse, my dad's been a Cincinnati fan my whole life....we know how that's paid off for him

 

 

not buying what youre selling

[ed2funy]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

First, on phone.

 

So I wanna point out for DPR, since he is conviently ignoring this fact, I never criticized the TLM spec, I criticized the Cory spec. 2 different things, so don't try to pretend voting TLM is counter to what I've said. It's not.

 

Second, TLM is the/a bad guy in the show Zander. Yeah, he's a less awesome V, but the good guys from this show are in the government (Sector 9 I think) so there's your perspective.

Lenlo. No one cares if you're in your phone. *looks off into distance as he debates throwing his phone* trust me, I know.

 

Will be looking for following up on DPR reaction on this. And later find those quotes if they haven't been posted, because there's a difference. If DPR is a wormy scum, you gotta pin him down fast and kill him. Or else he tries to lead a Lynch on you for not being as active as he'd like you to be. #rude

 

 

 

 

How did I get dragged into this? 

 

 

How did you not know you were part of that interaction with Lenlo? Scummy af

 

 

 

 

I posted my reaction to Lenlo before you posted this? 

 

Your attempt to loop me into your problems is noted. Now go ahead and post that reads list.

 

 

So then you know you were part of that interaction. And you know I was catching up as I read along. Soooooo, what's your issue with deflecting from the fact that you and Lenlo went back and forth on this? 

 

Also, coming up. I'll show you mine and you show me yours? *waggles eyebrows* 

 

 

 

What are you going on about? This is shite - get on with the reads or imma paint you in red. 

 

And, I only show my tip to Adam. You got a long ways to go before you see the iceberg.

 

 

Do think because there's spoiler tags no one is going to read or click back or Lenlo's post and see where y'all interacted?

 

lol, just blatantly ignoring stuff again. 

 

Who peeked DPR last night? Anyone? Hep 

[ed2funy]

Holy hell, finally caught up. No more posts atp

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm pretty damn sure ed is scum

Then why aren't you voting him?

 

Because I think adam could be scum as well. I really liked the people on this wagon, barring killa's recent post and I did not want to just abandon it. besides that ed starts to post around that time and if you kept reading you should know why.

 

 

 

 

First, on phone.

 

So I wanna point out for DPR, since he is conviently ignoring this fact, I never criticized the TLM spec, I criticized the Cory spec. 2 different things, so don't try to pretend voting TLM is counter to what I've said. It's not.

 

Second, TLM is the/a bad guy in the show Zander. Yeah, he's a less awesome V, but the good guys from this show are in the government (Sector 9 I think) so there's your perspective.

Dpr is touching on this but lenlo's lack of game related posts is disturbing. and is nothing but spec on TLM.

 

The bolded is one thing that bothered me about dpr's vote, but I honestly am having a hard time seeing this dude as scum this game.

 

Dpr who are you sussing besides lenlo? if you already said ill find it later

 

First spoiler tag:

"Ed is scum"

"Adam could be scum"

*votes ed*

 

Okay. Sounds like you were just optioning me as your second choice like some dirty little side piece.

 

Will see any other thoughts on this. Like, yay for not being Lynched. Just doesn't sit right when someone so blatantly options like that.

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Second spoiler tag:

Actually not much to say here except was after DPR's case - which I'll have to read again because I was at work. Agree Lenlo was posting low content (heh @ hypocrites) and speculating on TLM. Still more comfortable with Lenlo's explanation that he had distinct separation of Cory/TLM

 

 

 

Red- Something you have a lot of 1st or I guess 2nd hand exp with Ed!?!?!!?!?    lolololololol

 

And ya thats a awful comment from you irt hypocrite comment imo.

 

 

 

 

I think the problem is that we don't get to see how you're interpreting things in short blips like you're doing now. We need for you to grab posts that make you feel someone is town or scum and explain why that is in a way so that we see how your brain works.

 

If that makes sense?

No yeah, it totally makes sense. The busier I am in RL, the shorter my surface level thoughts become and my musings stay unwritten.

 

That's why now that I have some actual time before I gotta go do a report, I'm reading up so I can post better thoughts and esplain to you.

 

Unless a vig gets me tonight, I think the Mafia won't outright shoot me since I'm leaning toward being an easy Lynch. They just don't know imma fight that noise if they push it. #alsowhyImparanoidaboutseph

 

 

Legit awful aand Wolfy AF comment.

 

If by some ridiculous chance youre a Villager you should never ever ever make that comment again,,,,just smh.

 

 

 

 

 

Could Darthe be silenced?

 

Oh Darthy Darthe??!?

I'm sure it was a bit of a joke, but you really think there was a N0 silence?

 

No, not from the way he came back in.

 

 

WOW

 

Sooh seriously this gam has a TON of WTF from you.

 

Like if you end being a Villager I just dont know if my head will explode or not.

 

 

 

 

I was gonna break this up and spent ten minutes messing up the quote and spoiler tags, so here's one big lump. *sigh* 

 

Red - first hand.

Might be hypocritical, but it doesn't make it false. 

 

Second red - soooo, post my train of thought or no? When I was trying to keep up at work and before catching up, everyone was posting about putting me and Tigs as who they'd shoot if they were Vig. What makes it scummy to you? 

 

Not sure exactly what your asking me???

 

What makes the comment Scummy?  When someone calls out someone as part of their suss when theyre doing the same thing!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

God damnit DPR that was a legit thing I want someone to do. I randed town for all my games. Yet I read as scum until the end when it is solid obvious I am town. So f off dude. I am just trying to learn so I can get better at this game. Thats why I said for some one to volunteer to help me after this game is done. That doesnt help me now and that was not the point anyway. NM I will PM a few people after to see if they are up for it.

 

*flips table*

 

Rofl. Oh god. I am laughing and mad at the same time. How does that work?

 

I need a bucket of ice water to stick my head in to obtain some clarity.

 

 

'Cause I'm talented like that. Also, there was a healthy dose of snarkasm in my previous post, so come back in off the ledge.

 

 

If DPR is Scum I feel like this may almost spew Killa Town.

 

Thoughts???

 

 

How does this particular post spew her as Town? 

I'd think the part where he actually commented that it was scummy as being what would indicate her being town if he's mafia.

 

 

 

Unless im not understanding your last sentence thats exactly what Im saying??

 

I think if it actually Scum!DPR, this comment here in this post could wuit possibly spew her Town.  Cause to me it kinda reads like he feel's that he may have pushed her a tad to hard/far and is kinda like apologizing in  DPR kinda way so to speak.

 

Again its only IF DPR's Scum and with that its making me think its highly unlikely theyre w/w.

 

Do you agree or disagree with the reasoning I have and or the conclusion Im drawing from it atp and why or why not?

 

 

I was referring to the post below, like if DPR is scum (he is), then that one would make Killa seem scum more than the one you quoted and bolded:

 

 

 

 

Also in relation to DPR and Seph sussing Lenlo now... I feel I little better about why lenlo's posts struck me as funny. Though to me it was funny haha more than funny as in wtf. I got called out by a few folks for saying that about Lenlo and now that the well known players are doing so it becomes legit and not scummy at all. Funny that.

 

After the game is over can some one help me figure out why I read so scummy every game even though I am town. I would be very grateful.

 

Scummy af imo.

 

 

 

 

 

I dont think the post you quoted makes it more likely DPR and Killa are likely to be w/w at all.

 

Im not saying Killa isnt or cant be Scum.  Im saying with the quote I was referring to is that if DPR is Scum I dont think Killa is one of his Scummates.

 

And with the he is, Im guessing you think he's Scum eh....lol

 

I just dont know if i remember you thinking/pushing that so Ill have to go back and check or if you can then post the quotes.

[Tigraine]

 

 

 

Zander- first of all, you're a 49ers fan? Been a tough few years on you huh darlin?

Anyway, I see you started your very first post saying you're town and then this post http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/100533-advanced-ghost-in-the-shell-night-1/?view=findpost&p=3782912 followed by requesting permission to edit the post. Reading it now, mixed with your first post out of the gate saying I am town, I guess I was just to daft to miss the claim insinuations. It's still very odd for me to have townies be so blatant.http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/100533-advanced-ghost-in-the-shell-night-1/?view=findpost&p=3783192

I can't figure out how you or anyone else thinks it is such a big stretch to assume your motives are possibly recruitment. Shad's OP mentioned possibly finding yourself in a QT so that was my very first thought. As well as when you started asking people to say "I am town" pretty much from the start. Questioning you on that, especially mixed with the mysterious TLM, just seems like good sense and seems like a good thing for us townies to do. I mean, you seem like an intelligent person...except for the 49ers thing, so why is it so hard for you to conceive of such a thing?

I'm not done with Zander but thought I'd post what I have.

I understand that it's hard for people to fathom why it would take so long to make a post of that's size but i am a single mom of three. While I'm ISOing someone I am also keeping a page open to keep up with what is currently being said in the thread. mix that with track meets, inspections and sleeping...I apologize that it's not up to standards.

IRT being a 49ers fan- FML.....tho Im pretty happy with Lynch;s 1st draft as a rookie GM for my 9ers tho. Looking like if he continues to draft well and stays the course we should be ok after a 3-5 year rebuild.

 

As far as the editing my post part, if you read shads answer to me asking to edit right after it, it was a joke about me messing up the spoilers tag when I asked him if i could fix the tags. So I dont know wtf kinda issue you have or better wording trying to push/shade me with. You have an issue with my GOAT ability to Town tell with your blatant comment or am I missing something there???

 

And why did you link my olive branch comment to DPR for??!?!?!?

 

How in the heck to you assume me asking if people are Town is me trying to recruit them?!!?!?!? I checked the Database and youve played more games then I have and Ive played like 50 here on DM, you've never played with. read game with or even heard of a Lie Detector!?!?!?!?! I have no idea what youre even trying to say in the 2nd paragraph except for the bold which made me both lololololol and sadface.gif at the same time......

 

I can appreciate the single mother of 3 my dear!!!! My mom was a single mother of just me....but believe i was like having 10 adhd kids hopped up on sugar and blow.....lololololol And I dont know you wll so Im trying hard too not think of this as AtE but ok Ill give you the time thing here tho you saying you keep a tab open to respond when you totally didnt respond in real time talk when doing those just looks like youre trying to find/add reasons to it.

 

Giving you the time thing tho still dont change the fact of all the other issues Ive already mentioned ITT tho so....

The editing post I thought was in the same context as the LD question. I thought that was your way of trying to get whichever person it was to say they were town before you actually came out and just asked everyone to.

 

I have been in games with a LD but they never revealed that early. And with the "creative thinking could be beneficial" ever present in the back of my mind, plus not knowing what TLM is, the "if you find yourself in a QT" I actually thought it was pretty reasonable to assume that there could be ulterior motives. Someone thought voting TLM may trigger something and your panties didn't bunch so that just added to the persona of the "this could trigger something" mentality.

 

When I said I keep an open tab that I have been checking on, it started after the post with my first reads. With that post, I had just read all of their posts and formulated an opinion which I posted. Then I realized that wasn't really the best way to do it because I'm not pointing to anything specifically and by the time I got to the end, I had forgotten what I thought about the beginning. So I have been reading a few posts, going to my notepad and putting my opinion, checking the current thread then going back to the ISOing. It's a process.

 

I'm trying miserably to adapt to how aggressive townies are in the way the game is played now. It may not be much but it seems like a whole different game at times. Instead of just focusing on who/why spmething is scummy, it's been more of "everyone agree that a specific person is town and we will follow their lead to the end. I'm more skeptical of the person everyone is following than anybody else because I feel like I need to show their true colors to save the town.

 

As for the 9ers, they've seemed to have a rough 7 or 8 years. Maybe a good year or two thrown in. But it's good to see someone stick with a team when they lose. Shows loyalty. Could be worse, my dad's been a Cincinnati fan my whole life....we know how that's paid off for him

not buying what youre selling

Then no soup for you!

[ed2funy]

The first question was me asking if you want me to post my train of thought or not. lol

I disagree in the sense that I acknowledged I was being hypocritical, but that it's still a valid point. And it's slightly different because at the time, he had more posts. 

 

No. What?

Zander. I'm agreeing with you saying that Killa's likely to be Town when DPR flips scum, but not because of the post you quoted. Because of the post I quoted. 

Yeah, I have an inkling, but before I *forget* why, I gotta do some ISOing.