[Advanced] Fight Club Mafia! - Game Thread!

[Sooh]

 

I disagree on Seph. Plus it's night phase, so voting is rather pointless unless you just want to show us who you'd vote if it was day.

Why Seph specifically? He's not on your reads list later, what's your read on Darthe now?

 

I thought Seph had a sequence of posts towards the end of D1 that I agree with others on being towny.

 

As for Darthe I still don't have a read. I can't say that he's very towny, nor is he very scummy. I hope I'll be able to interact more with him, or that he'll have more lengthy interactions with others.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

The push against me doesn't have merit. I don't see points being made, just quoting a post of mine and going "if darthe is a wolf heres what he is doing".

 

Of course it has merit. Why don't you go ahead and explain your vote on me and I'll point to the merits you're looking for.

My vote on you? Early it was a joke vote, later it was self pres. Who else was I gonna switch to when I returned DPR?

 

 

See, there's the merit. Don't know that we have much use for a self-preserving jokester who won't make actual cases.

 

"I use new information to justify old opinions"

[Cuth]

you know what makes me sad

 

up until DST started again, the forum showed the right time when I was not logged in, and now it is an hour off :(

[Hallia]

I'm sorry, this weekend has just been nuts ><

 

I'm a bit out of it atm, if I don't get finished I will do an in depth catch up in the morning fml

[BFG]

Good morning :)

[BFG]

I'm sorry, this weekend has just been nuts ><

 

I'm a bit out of it atm, if I don't get finished I will do an in depth catch up in the morning fml

Hope it was a good nutty weekend :)

 

Looking forward to what you have to say!

[Ironeyes]

Morning! Catching up now. 

 

 

He said that my (very recent) game with you as partners could be coloring my perceptions. That's something I hadn't considered and it's probably true. I have a chronic case of recency bias, where what happened in the near past weighs more heavily on my reasoning than the more distant past.

What's your read on Cuth/DPR now?

 

Lemme answer that as soon as I catch up on the thread. 

[Ironeyes]

Gotta go to work in a few minutes though. 

[Sooh]

Wow this game is slow today. Are we just waiting to see who's killed?

[BFG]

I'm mostly waiting to get home to dig into the fight stuff properly :/ and/or for Darthe/Tress/Hallia to show :)

[BFG]

Add Crusher to that group :)

[Sooh]

Add Crusher to that group :)

*nods*

 

I'm starting to feel relaxed about your slot btw.

 

You're light green for me now.

[BFG]

Do you have a read on WiFi yet?

[ed2funy]

Wondering if I should reread Day/Fight time now and try to determine some more solid reads, or just go lay out in the sun now.

[Sooh]

Do you have a read on WiFi yet?

No, I feel she hasn't been very active.

[Ironeyes]

 

He said that my (very recent) game with you as partners could be coloring my perceptions. That's something I hadn't considered and it's probably true. I have a chronic case of recency bias, where what happened in the near past weighs more heavily on my reasoning than the more distant past.

What's your read on Cuth/DPR now?

 

Hmm. Cuth seems more towny now, for sure. I think the biggest alignment indicator for me was his eagerness to no-lynch. With the exception of the (unlikely IMO) possibility of them being scummates, I think that shows towny. If he were scum and in a thunderdome with town he'd likely take the opportunity to get his opponent dead. 

[BFG]

 

Do you have a read on WiFi yet?

No, I feel she hasn't been very active.

 

Yeah, her nomination round voting was probably technically correct but I don't think it's necessarily alignment indicative and I don't think I've seen reads yet

[BFG]

 

 

He said that my (very recent) game with you as partners could be coloring my perceptions. That's something I hadn't considered and it's probably true. I have a chronic case of recency bias, where what happened in the near past weighs more heavily on my reasoning than the more distant past.

What's your read on Cuth/DPR now?

 

Hmm. Cuth seems more towny now, for sure. I think the biggest alignment indicator for me was his eagerness to no-lynch. With the exception of the (unlikely IMO) possibility of them being scummates, I think that shows towny. If he were scum and in a thunderdome with town he'd likely take the opportunity to get his opponent dead.

 

Ok, thanks

[BFG]

hm

 

in a game like this the scums are not going to hang off the top wagons

 

they're going to be on ones like ours and maybe Tress if they can get away with it

 

por eso and for other reasons we get down to, like

 

darthe/sooh/seph 

 

that's my revised scum poe, though i'd definitely lynch seph over sooh

 

seph... was blatantly towny last game, i thought

 

this game he comes in, just blanket townreads half of the game without ever saying why, and then is inconsistent in talking about who his suspects are and why

 

he has pretty high equity at this point

 

Can you show where Seph 'blanket town reads half the game'?

 

Disagree a fair amount on Sooh, possibly Seph although I want to see what he does now and want to know why he didn't vote last fight

 

oh and yeah i'm not 100% on Darthe obviously, though i still think there's a very good chance there

 

have been purposefully exaggerating

 

oh right seph was also pushing the dpr/me agenda ever since he got back

 

which while it could be town there's also the problematic bit that he's pushing two towns (assuming DPR is, which i'm pretty convinced of)

What agenda? Why are you so sure DPR is town?

[BFG]

i'd take a look at dice, particularly if iron is town

This seems to Level 1 for you

[BFG]

Yep - No Lynch makes sense here.

 

My reads so far:

 

Darthe is "darthing around", doing his twee thing. What pinged me was his vote on me followed by the "I like cold hard reads". But, when asked, he admits that his vote was based on my being 3rd party in our last game together, which would be ore in line with his jokey, cavalier attitude, except that he left his vote on me.

 

I described his play as "hit & run" because he came into the game with jokes, threw down a serious vote and then disappeared - leaving others to pick up the pieces and push my case, which I'll get to - and as it turned out, he didn't reappear until half an hour before deadline. Then, because he's Darthe, he acts like he had to include teh mock surprise that it was deadline, which is, of course, why he is Darthe... the master of observation, except when it comes to deadlines. Like I said, twee.

 

The bit that bugs me as much is how others picked up on Darthe's vote and treated it like it was serious, furthering a case on me that didn't exist. More on that in a bit when I have a minute.

What makes you think Darthe vote was serious? How does other people 'picking up' the 'case' have anything to do with Darthe?

[BFG]

I need to make one more point about Darthe - I never take it as a good sign when a player pivots between joking and being serious. If someone is casing, they are reading/looking for particular things. If they are casual and light, they just post (and this often includes legit observations, but it's different than "case mode"). Darthe seems to be bouncing back and forth to achieve a certain "town look", while he casually tosses a case into the thread with no evidence, waiting for others to drive it.

 

Which brings us to Sooh...

What case had Darthe offered?

[BFG]

 

 

 

 

 

Eeyore was always my favorite because of 2 things: he was a horse and he was blue, both things I loved.

 

Dead giveaway imo.

 

Vote Wifi

 

 

This is my joke vote on Wifi - near as I can tell, this is the source of the case against me.

 

When you read from this point in the game, you will see both Sooh and Seph post, but do not mention my vote except in relation to Wifi's reaction to it. But neither of them questions it. 

 

 

 

 

Vote Songstress & Wildfire

#raisins?

 

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They shifty af. The whiskey is telling me they suss.

 

For now. Not many people posting often enough to interact.

 

Seems a bit early for a double vote like that. I'd like to think that's towny. Depends on how brazen you are regularly though. 

 

Mild town lean?

 

 

During this time, Sooh posts the above - which struck me as weird. It looks like she's "trying" to see Ed as town, while painting him as possible scum. This is an example of a slow-burn setup.

 

 

Yes cause it looked like Darthe took it more serious than everyone else.

I assumed it was a joke vote back and nothing serious based on the 3p comment. Wasn't DPR just 3p in a game?

 

 

Then, after Darthe comes into the game and votes me, both Sooh and Seph both admit that they took my vote as the joke it was.

 

Both will be the next people to vote for me, despite the fact that I don't really do anything to give them a reason to do so. 

 

I assumed it was as well, I'm sure Darthes comment just went over my head then lol.

 

Yep. Weird that you're about to vote me for it though.

 

 

Yes cause it looked like Darthe took it more serious than everyone else.

 

Players that listen to Darthe and admit to it...

 

Like I said - trippy 80's movie. 

 

 

Yes cause it looked like Darthe took it more serious than everyone else.

I assumed it was a joke vote back and nothing serious based on the 3p comment. Wasn't DPR just 3p in a game?

 

 

That and it was my first post. On D1. About Eeyore.

 

 

Me confirming that it was indeed a joke vote...

 

Reading Darthe from one game to the next is like reading two different people. Even as town he likes to mix things up a ton in my experience.

 

Sooh creating the magical and mystical reputation that is The Darther. It's also laying down cover for all the stoopid things he does.

 

I'm not ready to lean any way on Darthe yet, but if you have a read, that's great. Got any reads on anyone else?

 

 

Sooh isn't ready to lean on Darthe, despite her asking many questions of Cuth as to why he voted Darther. And Cuth lays out a case - make no mistake. To which Sooh might say, "I don't see that" or "I disagree". Instead she says she is not ready to lean any way on him.

 

Which I found very ironic given that her next post is to vote me with no case made against me at all. I guess she was just ready to lean that way, eh?

 

 

 

I don't actually understand half the case here

 

I don't understand why a null-town read (my interpretation of Soohs read) is scummy, I don't understand why potentially changing your mind on a light read (DPRs scenario) is scummy, and I don't know if this is just a fundamental difference between how we play

 

She's addressed the vote stuff already

 

Last game you were sussing the people trying to read Darthe Day 1, why are you now sussing someone whose waiting?

[Ironeyes]

 

 

 

He said that my (very recent) game with you as partners could be coloring my perceptions. That's something I hadn't considered and it's probably true. I have a chronic case of recency bias, where what happened in the near past weighs more heavily on my reasoning than the more distant past.

What's your read on Cuth/DPR now?

 

Hmm. Cuth seems more towny now, for sure. I think the biggest alignment indicator for me was his eagerness to no-lynch. With the exception of the (unlikely IMO) possibility of them being scummates, I think that shows towny. If he were scum and in a thunderdome with town he'd likely take the opportunity to get his opponent dead.

 

Ok, thanks

 

Oh, and the same goes for DPR. I forgot to include him, but the same argument applies. 

[BFG]

I have issues with the 'fight' on reread, but I'm not sure I can figure out why yet, and I know I'm not articulating it clearly

 

DPR could just be a play style approach difference, I struggled reading him last game /shrug. Worth noting that his 3 scum reads are the 3 people voting him Day 1.

 

Cuth may be struggling with the slow game, but he was so obviously town in Western that the difference is startling here

 

That said, I have misgivings over Sephs votes (and lack of) that he needs to address, and Darthe is a big ??? until he does something

 

Soon is making a lot of sense to me, the reads she's making and when and why