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Mailman

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  1. Amazon head stepping down. Wonder if this will have any effect?
  2. 3 Episodes to go. Which current story arcs are they going to complete. Almost certain. Rand breaking the Aiel White cloaks and trollocs beaten in the 2 rivers. Tanchico (feels like we will need these characters in other places soon) Maybe? Moiraine dies (feels like it should be end of next season) Tower divides (maybe early next season) I feel even if they keep it super tight on the top 3 it will still feel fairly rushed however with the shows penchant for prioritizing other story lines I feel that it will be much worse than that. The show desperately needs more episodes.
  3. It's a while back to remember but I think it was fairly universal that people enjoyed seeing the future tech in that scene but also that everything was a bit clean for depicting the final days of what should have been a desperate last stand for the audience's perspective.
  4. Yes it is an acceptable way of framing the question and I am sorry if you found my answer lacking in it's depth. Part of the reason for that is that this episode in particular probably has among the largest divergence from the books in the show to date IMO and I was probably a little too keen to emphasise that point. The other was as I said I thought it fairly obvious that I did not consider them good changes. I was more than happy to expand on my thoughts if asked. Biased and obstinant. I don't believe are fair. I have praised the show on the few occasions that I think they have done something good for example Egwenes Damane episode arc and I was practically glowing with praise for the Rhuidean sequence. But it is hard for me to be praising of the majority of the content when I truly believe it to be poor. I have often included lore and in world mechanics and plots that could explain issues I have identified as being poor, something I would not have done if I was purely attacking the show out of malice and spite. As for obstinant I almost always provide examples of the things I am arguing and in a large number of responses people either tell me that I am nitpicking or that it does not damage the worldbuilding or immersement for them. I don't feel that the times people have presented counter arguments to these things that I think fix the issues I have been unreasonable. Although this does come with a healthy serve of what each individual finds okay. As for the personalities thing it is not my intention to drive people away. I am simply expressing my opinion and engaging with the responses. I would also point out that I have never started the personal attacks that have occurred in these threads, I possibly could probably have handled my responses to some of them in a more adult manner.
  5. Yep lol I remembered that the last episode had the same name as the first book after I posted.
  6. Sorry I realise you are probably referencing s01e08 One of the criticisms leveled by people was just how idyllic the world in the that cold open was and that it did not accurately convey the absolute desperation that should have been present.
  7. The War of the Power I don't think could be described as fairly calm. Are you referring to the cold open in the book? Have you read the cold open in the book? As the book only references the war in that section at all with LTT saying for 10 years your foul master has wracked the world. I cannot ever remember the number 500 coming up in terms of the WoP, so I am not sure about it's accuracy.
  8. Everyone in Shienar bathed together in the same baths and the Aiel sweat tents, which are the same as baths, everyone also washed together.
  9. It's probably a thing that varies for each individual but I never considered any of the books a slog. I am also a massive re reader I have read the completed series above 10 times and the earlier books more than double that number with the earlier the book obviously having the most reads. The only sections that I find a little slow are the early parts of Faile's capture and the early section of Elayne's securing the throne.
  10. Was that the timeline the show created in the Latra cold open? The book version is that it was around 80 to 100 years of slow breakdown from the opening until the War of Power began which Jordan said lasted only around 10 years but events in the books supported it could have lasted around 50 to 75 years according to the WoT wiki.
  11. I think someone said that the extra material has the timeline from the start of the series is just over 2 years has passed. I don't feel that the show has in any way made it feel like this amount of time has passed. AMOW was actually rudely responding to one of my posts quoting Daddyfinn.
  12. The only thing I can think of is after they gave the clipping to Carhein they were able to travel the waste and unlike the tinkers I am assuming they may have had some contact with the Aiel and even possibly have been warned away from approaching Rhuidean as it was a sacred site. In the books Rhurrac when he meets the trading caravan warned the trader that if he had continued on his path then he would have reached the city and it would have been a bad thing for them. I think I remember as well that the trader knew it was not allowed.
  13. Was it just me or did the wolf heads in the white cloak camp look much bigger than Hopper's head?
  14. Lol as you can probably guess rule of cool does not quite cut it for me.
  15. Nope Nyn she told him about the tracking tell to allow him to follow Moiraine to the eye.
  16. The show actually said Moiraine had a tracking tell that Lan had not spotted in 20 years which is a super nerf on him.
  17. The euphoria of holding the power is well established and his lucid conversation about what the taint feels like is not madness, he is talking about the thing that will drive him mad in the end. I'm sorry I don't recall that s3e1 convo.
  18. So you are saying the tonal discordance is real and was intended. I think the Taarad where happy because their chief had returned. I don't think they should have been joyful with Rand given they knew who he was and what his future speaks for the Aiel. Which was my point. Grim, stoic, and committed not laughing and gleeful. We have seen no real development of Rand being taken by the Madness at this point. You are suggesting this as it's first appearance? I'm sorry I don't buy those as the reasons. I believe they wanted to set up a relationship between Rand and the kid to make a future scene hit harder, this was not an impossibility what I question is the manner they have chosen to achieve it. For example have Rand training with Lan and then Rhurrac approaches and offers to help him learn the spear or hand to hand fighting and have the girl laugh at his initial attempts and then even joins in on the lesson mirroring the moves along with the men.
  19. That certainly is not Rand's lived experience though. And being stoic does not exactly fit with the way he and the child acted. For the audience it is still tonally discordant as Rand who only a couple of scenes earlier learned the Aiels history and shame and only just before that learned that he would destroy almost their entire civilization. It's the same level of discordance as when Rand was being one of the boys at the pub joking about sleeping with Lanfear, it's simply not the reaction a normal person would display when faced with a incredibly confusing and emotional situation like that. I think we are agreeing that by having a diverse cast you are going to have a diverse set of people being good and bad and some people are going to read things into those choices. I had not thought it heavily or deliberately skewed. Yep but that picture is from the show where it very much feels like they are going to make those relationships sexual. My concerns are mainly to do with the ceremony and the fact that they were sisters not lovers in the books which requires changing the relationship dynamics. It also raises the question are we going to see some threesomes or moresomes. When not all the characters are sleeping together it is not a question when they are all sleeping together it becomes likely that they would engage in this activity. I am not against it I am just saying if this is the relationship going forward do we expect this to be shown.
  20. As I have stated before I do not care if they give Rands wives a more sexual component with each other to their relationship. My issue is that in the books they are sisters and the ceremony they undertake clearly involves a rebirth as the twin sister of each other and it clearly seems that rafe is going to keep this ceremony which is called first sisters. If you are happy with the relationship involving an incestuous element then it is no issue. If they remove the maternal birthing segment of the ceremony then it could work, however with this it is will it will not.
  21. ewwww the thought of all those dangly bits flapping around and potentially getting caught in ropes or on the rigging. That would be a bad place to get a rope burn.
  22. But at no point in the books do I remember those wives actually having a sexual relationship with each other. The same as in the books Rand's wives do not have a sexual relationship with each other.
  23. Considering the lack of extras at this point in the show I'm fairly sure they could have actually found enough actors of any body shape and size. If every one of those casting choices had been white there would have been complaints about only casting white people in those roles. Sammael, Moggy, Lanfear and Morgase are all white and clearly evil at this point of the show. I am not sure having a solitary bald person in the BA out of 11 is exactly falling into the bald = evil trope. Although she is the only bald woman I can remember in the show so maybe?
  24. I find the idea that only a marriage between 2 people to be the correct formula antiquated. The idea that every person on Earth fits neatly into a 2 person loving relationship feels wrong surely some people can be involved in multi party loving relationships/marriages and be happy. The examples you raised are where a considerable power imbalance is present usually and the vast majority of these relationships that have occurred in our world fall into this category. Cult like harems are rarely done for the right reasons and thus should be avoided.
  25. I am aware of the current thought line that this will replace the Tear scene. I am fine with that scene being moved although without Callandor it will make it harder to replicate his feeling of being filled with so much of the power that he can literally do anything. The scene in the book did not require him having an attachment to the child and worked very well, again not saying that having said attachment could not work well here. What I am questioning is the jokey way the introduction was handled. Rand has just become the Car'a'can and learned that he will destroy basically the entire Aiel nation as his future, he has also just learned and experienced the entire history of the Aiel nation and their fall and shame. Having Rand be all jokey and happy in this scene is jarring considering everything he has just experienced. The fact that the child knows of the Car'a'can would indicate that his upcoming role is not a secret to the general populace and so to a lesser extent her role is also questionable. Would have been a fine scene if you had made their meeting more sombre and reflective especially from Rand POV.
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