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S3E2:A Question of Crimson - Discussion
Mailman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
I get the different turning of the wheel argument but when the changes become so pronounced at what point is it no longer an adaption but an entirely different story just using names to bait interest. I would say at the moment Moiraine is the most important character followed by the tower storylines and Nyn and then Rand and the others after that. -
Less damage in this episode than the train wrecks of the other 2 still too much time spent on the tower politics though. Mats arc is not bad and out of all the characters he by far feels the most like his book persona at this point. The fight between Mat and the princes was one of the better ones in the show I still dislike using steel weapons and I think the fact that Mats part looked awesome show you could have you wooden swords, but apart from that the only criticism I have is the super strange holding hands move the princes use in the middle, I mean seriously who thought that was a good idea. So few extra in the Aiel scenes. Why so small looks cheap.
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S3E2:A Question of Crimson - Discussion
Mailman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
I could not care less what the actor has a history of playing. My only concern is with the competence with which they portray the character in question. I have not watched Westworld so i cannot comment. You are not a hero if you murder children under a truce setting simply to make your reign easier. You are not even a good ruler you have just made 4 lifelong enemy houses with a valid reason to hate you. -
S3E2:A Question of Crimson - Discussion
Mailman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
Executing someone for a crime is one thing. Executing people including a child in a truce situation is something else entirely. Executing someone just to make your reign easier is something else entirely. Do you think book Morgase would have executed a child under truce? -
S3E2:A Question of Crimson - Discussion
Mailman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
Just managed to get through ep2 and I'm not really sure what I am watching anymore. 100% gone is the good ruler for all Morgase straight out murders children to cement her leadership. For mine this is just an attempt to grab a GoT feel for the show. Morgase looks too old in the cold open which is a bit jarring when Elayne says latter that she took the throne when younger than herself. Morgase also does not feel like the mature beauty of the young Elayne. Gaebril? Another character or is going to be replaced? Not sure the hypothesis that it is some kind of active constant compulsion is right. Whats the range? It must be permanent on those that it affects but what about the ripples to those outside that he does not meet the sheer number of people that know the royals and suddenly people are talking about a royal consort that does not exist must be staggeringly confusing. I mean what if Elayne meets Galad before Gaebril and he starts talking about the royal consort? Galad and Gawyn just banging through the novices it really feels like they are going to make them absolute prats rather than considerate and thoughtful characters they were in the books. Really don't understand Nyn's comments about them she has never met them before as they arrived in the tower that day. I have already gone through the stupid sword training scene. Tower discipline and logic seems amazingly loose. Very hard to track the time jumps. Walking to the waste? Why not at least take a horse? Mandrab where are you. Who the hell did Avi think anyone in that group could have possibly told among the Aiel that they were coming? Alanna making it to the TR before Perrin? The ways don't feel very dangerous at the moment. Rand says he is not afraid then seemingly to me spells out exactly why he is afraid of embracing the source. No one is the TR saying hello to Perrin or taking any notice of Loial or the maidens. The maidens offering greeting to defend the hold to Mistress al'vere when they have no idea who she is and they are in the forge. Smacks of a key jangle for book readers. Pretty much the only thing I liked was Lanfear messing with Egwene's dreams -
Wheel of Time Season 3 - Full Season Discussion
Mailman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
But thats kind of my point i would far rather the special effects budget where Stargate level if they could devote 24 episodes to a season. -
Wheel of Time Season 3 - Full Season Discussion
Mailman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
I'm going back to things like Stargate. Used to have 24 episodes a year and a midseason break. Large number of sets in it too. -
Wheel of Time Season 3 - Full Season Discussion
Mailman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
Same. I don't even really understand why it stopped there is far more money being pumped into shows than ever before and in a climate where having content is key to keeping subscriptions active it feels counterproductive to have 18 month+ breaks. -
Wheel of Time Season 3 - Full Season Discussion
Mailman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
Ah that makes more sense. Totally agree 2 year waits for what are fairly low episode count seasons are horrid. This is going to be what a 6 week run of content after 18 months of wait. I long for the old days of 24 epsiode seasons that released every year. -
spoilers S3E1 - Discussion / Global Fan Event
Mailman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
I'm going to assume this comment is made as a joke. If so haha. -
Wheel of Time Season 3 - Full Season Discussion
Mailman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
The visitor number for season 2 seem so small. And i'm not sure if i'm misreading the posts data but 6881 posts would be 350 pages of responses and considering there is under 15 pages in the TV forum thread that has been active since Wednesday at best i am not sure what i am looking at. -
spoilers S3E1 - Discussion / Global Fan Event
Mailman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
I'm telling the WoT but Liandrin uzi's 3 sisters Siuan uses a lightsaber to kill her and then optumus prime kills the dark one. Are you seriously telling me that you cannot tell me objectively that is bad storytelling. Of course you can storytelling has established metrics that you can use just like sports. -
spoilers S3E1 - Discussion / Global Fan Event
Mailman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
Digi said there is no such thing as objectively good or bad. So you cannot say objectively that my Hall scenario is bad as storytelling? -
spoilers S3E1 - Discussion / Global Fan Event
Mailman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
you did notice where i said that i thought it terrible that he had actually managed to capture that many. My point was if the Aes Sedai are not actually going out of the tower how could he have captured so many of them. Surely he is not getting even a small % of those leaving. -
spoilers S3E1 - Discussion / Global Fan Event
Mailman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
This is also not true. Once you are engaging in a certain field that field has structures and things can be objectively good and bad within that field. Pele is an objectively good soccer player just as there are loads of community park players who are not good. Are you telling me that it would not be objectively bad storytelling if in the Hall fight Liandrin whipped out a uzi and mowed down 3 sisters before Siuan used a lightsaber to kill her and then optus prime killed the dark one. -
spoilers S3E1 - Discussion / Global Fan Event
Mailman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
Well i sure hope the show does not show us them being competent in other situations then. Ryma seemed to have some abilities when fighting the Seachan? Killing 2 of them despite being outnumbered. Valda had 6 rings on his belt I'm assuming he did not go into TV to get them so quite a few must leave for him to have captured 6 and no i don't think he should have been able to take 6 Aes Sedai it's just what the show gave us. -
spoilers S3E1 - Discussion / Global Fan Event
Mailman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
Oh please, now who is not being objective. This is purely your opinion and is entirely premised upon your belief that you are right. We are consuming the same media for whatever reason be it like or dislike and this is a place to discuss it. -
Wheel of Time Season 3 - Full Season Discussion
Mailman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
@Elder_Haman @SinisterDeath All those things could be the reason why. I just thought it a slightly interesting comparison as it's hard to get good numbers. I would not trust the info coming out of the studios themselves these days as they are not in any way independent. -
spoilers S3E1 - Discussion / Global Fan Event
Mailman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
But if you have been trained and tested and have centuries of experience and you have not just the ability to strike at them which might be difficult but the ability to construct a large defensive shield just how long should you watch your friends and people you have known for decades die before you help. -
spoilers S3E1 - Discussion / Global Fan Event
Mailman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
@DigificWriter It would be really helpful if you could use the quote function to respond when answering specific posts. -
spoilers S3E1 - Discussion / Global Fan Event
Mailman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
Look you can say that but these are women that have been trained and tested in the 3 arches further trialled by the 100 weaves to remain in control and be able to channel in the most stressful situations imaginable with decades and centuries of experience for them to be taken apart when they have at least a 3 to 1 advantage is just not going to happen. And for all of them to fall prey to this and especially the other 2 greens in the room is just wrong. The problem with this is the warders would be very aware of what healing is capable of so not delivering a killing blow leaves you wide open to her being back on her feet in as is the case literally 30 seconds later and fully reengaged in the fight. It would have been incredibly easy to fix, simply have Liandrin throw herself to a side so the stabs missed the mark, but for two of the most highly trained killers and fighters in the world to not deliver a killing blow to a helpless unmoving target with her back turned is terrible writing. Now, could they have done a Stab and a Decap move timed seconds after the other? Absolutely. But then we wouldn't have the Tanchico plot. When you tie the competence of your character to what the story wants rather than that characters actual competence you are engaged in bad writing. If you suddenly have to make your character do something they are not capable of or not do something they can do to get them out of a situation you have put them in go back and fix it. Elayne and Avi actually go through the first sister ceremony. In the books they are all sisters rather than sexual partners. I have no issue in changing this although does this mean the show is going to give us an orgy scene? When you go with the harem model this is not an issue as not everyone is sleeping together. -
spoilers S3E1 - Discussion / Global Fan Event
Mailman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
I think I have answered this many times before my attachment to the book series is incredibly deep. I find it amazingly hard to not watch the series despite the fact I think they are doing a terrible job of it. I largely enjoy debating the merits or lack thereof of the show and I find it somewhat cathartic to actually express my displeasure and hope to sway some of those I talk to to want far better than we are being served up. Do you really want just an echo chamber in a forum. From what I have seen recently I am just about the only consistent poster still active on the negative side on this site. -
Wheel of Time Season 3 - Full Season Discussion
Mailman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
Entirely possible. Its just with the studios not giving out any really accountable numbers these days getting a metric is difficult. -
spoilers S3E1 - Discussion / Global Fan Event
Mailman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
Oh come on. Rand trapped Asmodean and basically held him prisoner and he was Rands only hope of learning to channel. That is absolutely nothing like what we just saw. Shadar Logoth they thought was empty it's in no way at all similar to being told that even going out in the city could lead to the tower capturing the male channeler if he was found. If Moiraine had told the boys about Mashdar and Mordeth then you might have some argument. -
Wheel of Time Season 3 - Full Season Discussion
Mailman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
One thing I have looked at is the traction on this site for the first episode of season 1 episode 1. The first 2 days of S1E1 saw over eight pages of posts on DM Despite the early release at this point the S3E1 thread has only 4 pages. Episodes 2 and 3 of S3 have only 17 total posts across them during this first day that seems to be a fairly heavy reduction. I don't know how this reflects directly on the overall picture but I don't think it is a good sign for the show.