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The irony is that WoT was more profitable than RoP. Amazon allowed the car to be repo’d so they could keep making payments on the huge house they bought.
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There was a 5 season commitment to RoP from the jump. They are forced to spend on it.
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Incorrect. Amazon is contractually obligated to air five seasons.
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Who said this? Not me. Which excuses are you referring to? While it’s true that the buck ultimately stops at the showrunner and therefore any failure can be placed at his feet, the argument that it’s solely his failure is silly and reductive. Why, for example, did WoT get cancelled when the inferior RoP gets three more seasons? Is that on the showrunner? Is the showrunner to blame for the terrible marketing? For every decision imposed by studio executives? You’re drastically underestimating the complexities of the process.
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I'm not certain how that is relevant to this conversation, but ok.
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As, I'm certain, would plenty of other people.
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I do. It’s not as bad here as it is elsewhere, but there are a few. And again, there is nothing wrong with not liking the show. There’s nothing inherently wrong with agreeing that the show should be cancelled. There is a certain cadre of smug, self-satisfied folks that are taking joy in the fact that the show was cancelled and seem to delight in rubbing people’s noses in it. That bothers and irritates me.
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No. It most certainly is not. That is definitely true. Again, this is 100% true. But that isn't the point. The point is that celebrating an outcome that costs many people their jobs is ghoulish and gross. One can be critical of the show and even supportive of the cancellation and still maintain a modicum of class. Metaphorically jumping up and down with delight because the show was cancelled is simply low class.
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Yeah. That’s just wrong. Amazon had to pay Sony for the production rights.
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I wonder how much of an anchor RoP was on WoT. Rings of Power is far worse from a writing/story telling standpoint. But they’re stuck with 3 more seasons. Since they have to spend on RoP, they had to find other places to save.
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I’m sure it’s not at all stressful for those people who make, on average, less than $50k. Especially since the film and television business is famously doing so well right now. Talk about tone deaf.
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Wheel of Time Season 3 - Full Season Discussion
Elder_Haman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
No. But you do need a representative one. -
Wheel of Time Season 3 - Full Season Discussion
Elder_Haman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
Your purported sample: “people who provided feedback on the show” is not representative of “book fans in general”. You need to brush up on your basic statistics. -
Hard disagree. Josha’s portrayal of Rand was one of the best parts of the show for me.
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I too am looking forward to 8 fingered Rand brandishing an actual heron as he battles Ishamael on the Isle of Skye.
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Wheel of Time Season 3 - Full Season Discussion
Elder_Haman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
I blame this far more than anything Rafe did or didn’t do. Prime has no idea how to market their shows. There was next to nothing in the way of promotion. And what promotions they did do were uninspired and shallow. -
Wheel of Time Season 3 - Full Season Discussion
Elder_Haman replied to SinisterDeath's topic in Wheel of Time TV Show
HBO could be a good fit too. -
I’m sure the camera, lighting, sound, fx people, makeup and costume designers, etc. will be surprised to learn that they made so much!! I’m sure that will be comforting as they try to find more work.
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Celebrating people being out of work. Classy.
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We should compare notes.
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I have half a mind to try to design a TTRPG…
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I could be wrong, but I think I remember seeing that there is a WoT video game in the works. Correct. But it’s being orchestrated by REE, which gives me very little confidence in the final product.
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He didn’t “attempt to rewrite the books”, he attempted to adapt them to the screen. That’s a completely different thing.
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I don't like being lumped in with "some of you". My position has been crystal clear since the very beginning: There's nothing wrong with criticizing the writing: I have personally been critical of the writing in the show. I agree that talking about Rafe's public comments are fair game, and that it is absolutely fair to say that the show reflected many of Rafe's political preferences. Where I draw the line is: (1) statements questioning his motives in wanting to create a good product; (2) statements opining that Rafe believes he's superior to RJ; (3) statements imputing a desire to 'ruin' the product to Rafe; and (4) statements about how "RJ would be rolling over in his grave" and the like. On a personal note, I will say that you are a good faith actor. My irritation stems from finding it distasteful that so many are gleeful about the show being canceled. The existence of the show harmed no one. Though it was far from perfect, I enjoyed watching it, talking about it, and speculating on its future. I am sad to see it go and sad that I will not get to see any of the threads wrapped up.