On 3/26/2023 at 4:07 AM, WheelofJuke said:

FWIW, I always pictured Julian's hat as a fez as well. 

OMG, I haven't seen any Doctor Who since the very early days of the fifth doctor...don't even know what to think! :eek:

That fez stuff is nothing by this point. That is a quirk these days.

Weird moments, like sarah jane's debut story with 3 and Link the Sontarran, where she was in medieval times, and she thought it was an amusement park.

No different than 3 teaching sarah jane how to swim, in a separate story, then the 4th Doctor in a story flapping around in a pond like goof panicking that he was drowning, so sarah had to teach him how to swim.

Meaning, he forgot between regenerations.

Then there is an earlier story with Omega's reaction to seeing 2 and 3 together, and his disbelief they the same Time Lord, because he thought 2 was clearly a joke, and 1 thought no different when he called 2 and 3 a dandy and a clown respectively. Or Bridagier having a panic attack with having to work with two different versions at the same time.

All of this in the same story.

You are talking about a show with fans (like myself), that think the Rowan Atkinson fund raiser special called The Curse Of Fatal Death, is par for adventures, and thus totally doable. I laughed to the point of passing out when I saw that.

Yes. There were equal discussions over the Brandon books vs the Robert books.

A number of readers disliked Brandon's writing in equal measure to what the show did.

Robert Jordan had the clear ability to place you in the moments of the story, which is why the descriptive writing was seen as either a really good thing, or an off putting one depending on whom you ask.

Brandon Sanderson, by comparison, showed a vast difference in writing. This meant that many situations, and characters were off when reading straight from a Robert Jordan book, and the most important comparison, is reading Knife Of Dreams, back to back with The Gathering Storm. Those two books shows a vast difference in how the story is told. 

What the show is doing is off putting to many, because the mediums are different. It is still telling the story, just using characters in different events to build what is happening, and building what is to come. Kerene and Stepin interacting with Logain is a direct case to this difference even being needed. You can even include Owain in this as well. Thom's nephew.

They were all chosen and revealed for a specific purpose, and it is because their fates would affect key characters at very important and vital moments in the story they are telling, and also world building in showing the cost of becoming an Aes Sedai, or a male channeller even using their abilities.

The stakes are high in the story, and they are only going to get higher as each season is done, and more dangers are revealed.

She is speaking of the Black Ajah murdering Aes Sedai that were as skilled, confident and as knowledgeable as her, including the Amrylin at the time. That is also a separate issue to the Red Ajah progrom of boys and young men.

She muses later, that what happened with those Aes Sedai, is mostly responsible for the Aes Sedai leadership being inefficient and immature during the books. The main face of that issue, is basically Egwene herself.

The Dark One is on Eru's level. It is why he is imprisoned, not fully out. The Dark One is not on the ability level as Eru, but he can totally alter what the world is doing.

The main difference, is that while Morgoth's influence is varied, the Dark One's influence is much more upfront than anything Morgoth did, except for the first conflict with the Valar before the Elves woke up. The case in point is the entire time the Noldor were fighting Morgoth from their return to the War Of Wrath. Feanor and his sons did not care or understand his influence on them. If it was the Dark One, they would totally know fully what he was doing the moment he did it.

Morgoth would also never think of ruining the weather, unless it was to torment Manwe and Ulmo, even if he could do so. The Dark One would ruin the weather, and there would be nothing Manwe or Ulmo could do to stop him.

Even Eru would have issues trying to reverse what the Dark One did without killing Middle Earth in the process, and that is something the Dark One would push. He pretty much was doing it in the books. 

On 2/22/2023 at 10:00 AM, Jsbrads2 said:

Mat being Rommel was a shock to me. 

Not really to me.

Rommel was honorable enough to try to kill Hitler, and one of the few that detested what was going on enough to act. He would have succeeded, if he had one other military figure in the exact same boat, so to speak, whom agreed with him on every level to act as well.

He was the only one that felt that way to the level he did, which is why he failed.

5 hours ago, CaddySedai said:

Yup, thats even weirder haha. But yeah I forgot how it worked on objects but you just reminded me lol.

 

Also, then, should we determine when someone said an entire city was destroyed by balefire that we are speaking like they balefired enough to make the city structurally unsafe to live in - and also everyone died..

 

or do they mean that literally and it was reduced atom by atom into nothingness lol. Cuz thats both insanity - and really really OCD lol. And if thats the case what would one do…destroy it line by line like the digitizer laser in TRON? Lol

Well, you have seen a Romulan vessel burn the surface of a planet in Star Trek. I know pretty much every Federation starship is capable of the same thing since the Enterprise D, so, two powerful Aes Sedai with balefire duelling  each other at that time would wipe out a city easily.

I saw Obi Wan and watched Vader bring down that ship and rip it apart. I enjoyed it, then scoffed, because Asmoedean in Rhuidean done well would beat him in this feat. Heck, Moghedien would have, too.

His fight with Rand showed the scale of these channellers and one of them was no where near his most powerful. Those two with balefire would wipe out that city, just by deflecting it around.

I loved this film. It was an amazing watching experience, and every character got to shine here. Despite its 4 hour runtime, it went quick for me.

The figure in the image above is Darkseid. He did not interact with the Justice League physically, it was mostly a stare down at the end.  Then he basically said "challenge accepted" after his loss. 

Darkseid was really what I dreamed of him being like in live action. 

I am playing Star Trek Online. I love that game. Just recently completed the Event Campaign and picked up the Universe ship. I love it.

I got into this game after my Star Trek Into Darkness detesting faze killed my enjoyment of the franchise. This game got me back into my enjoyment. I play it XBox, and it is tons of fun for me.

Just about to get a new story questline that features Wesley Crusher, voiced by the original actor playing the Terran Emperor, and Gates McFadden debuts as his Terran mother.  The story basically deals with the Mirror V'Ger, and yes, the canon V'Ger will be showing up to battle it. In fact, Aileea returns, and I suspect voiced by the actress herself from the film. Not to sure on that one, though.

The previous questlines of the Terrans featured Tilly's actor voicing her Terran character, and of course Kate Mulgrew voicing both versions of Janeway from both universes. 

In many cultures, the guardian that Rand intended is basically knights. However, many other cultures have shamans that their traditions have protecting reality as Rand ended up doing.

No, it does not break the wheel. If Rand had done that, then Fain would have killed Rand, and become the Dark One replacement, and that would mean that Mat takes over the role that Rand had.

You notice that Mat kills Fain immediately after Rand chose to keep the Dark One alive. Meaning, the Pattern would not allow Mat to do that if the other choice had been made. It would have most likely used the darkhounds to attack Mat and use Perrin to save him, so Fain gets to Rand in the confusion.

19 hours ago, Some_random_novice said:

I am currently taking a class in Latin and recently we have been focusing on Cultural such as names and gods. Something I noticed was the original names for the Forsaken, such as Asmodean, Lanfear or Grendel have 3 names. But it seems the third name is like the Roman Cognomen which is a name after the last which is a descriptive name. While in the Age of Legends these third names are awarded for special achievements or special recognition. Another thing I have noticed is how Tuon’s full name is almost the same as the Roman Goddess of Fortune, Fortuna. The final thing I noticed was in TGH (I think) when Rand and friends went to the Cairhien dance, the clothing and hair was aristocratic France. 
 

I am intrigued to know if anyone has picked up any other historical references. Not huge historical references but small little references. 

First, yes, there are many parallels between Rome and the Forsaken. I mean, Sammael is one part historical Crassus, Demandred is one part historical Pompey, and LTT is one part historical Ceasar.

Secondly, with Tuon renaming herself as Fortuna, I noticed that parallel as well with the name. 

Thirdly, Cairhein being French in the ball moment is true, because Cairhein is basically as much France as Andor is England, which is where the anti history between those two nations comes from. Historical parallels. 

I think it is actually likely that Ashaman is precisely a reinterpretation of that term. It is as close to male Aes Sedai as possible, without using the term.

As far as the West recognize them, anyway, since cultures in the real world have men and women that do what the Wise Ones or Sea Folk do, both in organization, and purpose.

The West would use those people as the Aes Sedai are portrayed in the books, and ultimately as difunctionally as they ended up being.

Yes, his hammer is new and the reason is because I suspect that his hammer holds his wolf side.

Remember that Perrin is similar to Slayer, and Slayer is of two souls merged.

If Rand truly believed in seeing the world as the Aiel do, then it is entirely possible that the pipe is an extension of that culture view of life according to Rand himself.

I think, however, that he will be the only one to do this in this way if it is that answer. 

On 1/21/2023 at 5:51 AM, DojoToad said:

Can men form a circle of any size, or were they all on their own?

They were on their own.

There are circles that men can lead, but only women can initiate any circle option.

No women, no circles.

Based on from what I have seen, WOT has done more to respect the lore more than ROP.

4 hours ago, bringbackthomsmoustache said:

I think you are referring to the star on the armor made for her in Numenor?  If so that is a symbol of Numenor (being founded by Elros Tar-Minyator son of Earendil the Mariner who bears the only surviving Silmaril across the sky).  It appears to be in keeping with the lore.  

If it is the star of Elros, then it is a bigger break, considering Elrond is his brother.

On 1/14/2023 at 10:15 AM, WhiteVeils said:

Sorry about the previous post.  I meant changes to the lore.

Well, going from the trailers, Galadriel is wearing the star of Feanor, and is basically running around doing what Elrond should be doing.

The biggest grievance is the star. Galadriel in lore would not wear it, considering two of her cousins, Celegorm and Curufin both betrayed her brother to Sauron, and attempted to usurp Nagothrond, all because Beren came to get help to enter Angband for a Silmaril.

They only got kicked out, because Luthien and Huan's fight with Sauron was witnessed by captives of Finrod's people. It is basically the only time in fantasy where a maiden shows up badass mighty figures before the modern age with that fight.

The show is also saying that Galadriel has not founded Lothlorien yet. The lore says she founded it long before the time Numenor falls. In fact, it is as old as Imladris is.

At the least, she is at most a councillor for Gil Galad. If she is doing what the show says, she should be wearing Gil Galad's sigil, not Celebrimbor's.

Galadriel here should be like Elayne on the road to becoming like Morgase in the books. Busy securing and developing her realm, not running around like Moiraine.

On 1/1/2023 at 7:15 AM, DojoToad said:

Many of us had the same alarm bells with WoT from trailers and promotional shots, but there is no way that would have stopped me from watching the show - at least until the show proved the fears were warranted...

Interesting. The only alarm bell that rang for me personally was the image of Loial, until I saw him in the show. I love him.

Yes. Basically, Egwene and Rand failed to work together at Merrilor, they agreed only to unite for the battles ahead, not stay united.

They won by fighting together, then reverted to how things were before Rand appeared, plotting and undermining each other, and so the Seanchan took advantage of that.

Of course, the Aiel basically ended up plotting what Couladin wanted to do, take control of the wetlands, and so tried to do the exact same thing.

The answer is really bad news if a certain character finds out, now that a certain theory has been confirmed to be true.

On 12/30/2022 at 10:18 AM, CaddySedai said:

 

 

 

But also mothers milk in a cup the Kelvin Timeline.

Agreed.

Star Trek Into Darkness was the worst cinema experience I have ever had.

I have not watched ROP, because I have all the alarm bells from the trailers that I got with Into Darkness, but ignored.

Verin may have actually thought that there was a timeline where Rand uses the portal stone to retrieve the Horn without causing the battle at Falme.

I have a feeling that either she was not aware of two other False Dragons being active at that time that the prophesised Falme battle would deal with, or she was under orders of one of the Forsaken to disrupt Rand's efforts to get the Horn back.

The Forsaken would know of it's importance to the Last Battle.

Same with me.

Yes. He would just decide to force a man to vomit beetles. He would also force a man to pour lava out of his head. For the exact same reasons he sent Ishamael 3000 years before to free LTT of the taint.

His motives were and are, to torment people, and break them if his torments can do it.