Until the show does something different, the book lore still holds true. Yes, we can treat the show as it's own entity, but there's no reason to not treat the book lore as True until proven otherwise. S1- Who was the Dragon. Anyone could be the dragon. Book said it was Rand. Show. It could be Egwene! Book, it's Rand. Show. It could be Nyneave! Book. It's Rand. Show. Surprise! It's Rand! Book. It's Rand. Show. Is Liandrin Good or Evil? Book. Liandrin is Black Ajah. Show. Ahh, Liandrin's not so bad is she?" Book. LIandrin is Black Ajah. Show. Surprise! Liandrin's Black Ajah! Show: Does Stilling break the oaths? Or Doesn't? Book: Stilling breaks the oaths. Until the show, shows us otherwise. The books hold true. *edit* fixed typo

I took Ishy' conversation of "desperation..." as "Would Moiraine sell her soul to get back her ability to channel the one power?" Well, Ishy doesn't believe he can heal stilling. But he can untie a shield he tied off...

Hard disagree. Liandrin' freeing Nyn was just a power-play against another Darkfriend to make them look inept. Suroth is taking Liandrin's prize that she wanted to turn to the BA to make herself look better in the DO's eyes. That's how Darkfriends work. They back stab each other. We literally get a scene a few minutes later between Lanfear and Ishy where he says something like "you wouldn't betray me right?" and she says "of course I would", and they both laugh.

I believe a Gateway you need to know where you are at. Skimming you don't need to know either, but you need to be familiar with the area. If she was creative, she could have created a gateway in the air, looking over the area getting a good idea where they were and where they were heading... The Forsaken were smart for their time, but they were also very arrogant.

Gateway/Skimming you still have to kind of have an idea where they're heading... and it uses a a lot of power. Searching for someone like that, could probably drain you pretty fast if you don't get lucky with your first few gateways/skims.

If you know, you know...

Aaand apparently it's out now. (I thought it came out an hour from now)

As they should! I would say you should feel bad too, but... FYI, I play Jank...so take that as you will. lmao

No, I was merely explaining how a casual explanation could exist when you said There also could exist a faction of philosophers in the AOL that absolutely believe the DO isn't a thinking entity but a force of nature. We know very few details about what actually happened during the age of legends... Let alone how much destruction and warping of reality was going on due to the Dark Ones Release. That depends on perspective! Are you the Fly, or the Person? Are you embellishing what happened? Or are you telling it cold and calculating like a doctor? If I'm playing a Blue Deck, I might tell people I had a masterful counterstroke. But if I'm playing against an AI Blue Deck, it's less of a counterstroke and more of a side-effect. 😁

See post here.

Lets consider the topic of causal relationship for a moment. The One Power is inherently tied to the fabric of reality. I think we can all agree on this premise. The OP Element of Fire for example, Rand can use the OP and Fire to "pull" heat from an object into himself to extinguish a flame. Egwene has to use Weaves of Water to do the same task. This is mentioned in Shadow Rising. (See my post here) That's one of many examples of how the OP can manipulate the "elements" of nature to warp the reality around the channeler. The Dark One is able to do this more literally. We see this through bubbles of evil and other ways. The DO is able to corrupt food. Corrupt reality. It doesn't take much inference to think that if this intangible extra-dimensional higher being that can warp reality might be able to potentially corrupt part of the one power that can also warp reality... If anything, why didn't the Forsaken try to corrupt the OP themselves? Maybe it's a numbers game. Maybe the 100 were tricked into thinking they had to do what they did, and that's why they were there. I dunno.

This is the topic for Season 2, Episode 5: Damane Director: Maja Vrvilo Writers: Rohit Kumar / Rafe Judkins This topic is for discussing Episode 5 only. You should expect to encounter Full Spoilers Up To Episode 5, and full book spoilers on this topic.

Counterstroke noun : a return stroke : COUNTERBLOW He said the response wasn't over and the US could take further, covert action—a thinly veiled reference to a counterstroke in cyberspace the US has been considering. Side Effect noun : a secondary and usually adverse effect (as of a drug) toxic side effects called also side reaction I put those definitions up there, because while the two words aren't synonymous, consider this. What do you do when you notice a Mosquito biting you? You slap it. Is that a counterstroke? Or a side effect of noticing it sucking your blood? If this was Magic the Gathering, and I cast a spell against a blue deck. Is it a counterstroke when they inevitably counterspell anything you attempt to cast against them? Or a side effect of attempting to cast anything while playing against a blue deck where you may as well be playing a game where you just draw every card and put it into your graveyard?

Now replace Thom with Uno, and now that conversation made in jest suddenly makes sense.

It's T'A'R. The girl could have had a living nightmare of Trollocs, and he soothed her nightmare of those creatures. Ishy could have manifested those Trollocs outside of that meeting before the entire event even happened. As far as we know, Trollocs still can't go through gateways and live... which I believe is one of the only ways to go to T'A'R in the flesh. (Not including whatever Perrin/Slayer does) Everything we've seen up to this point indicates they're still keeping Trolloc Movement through the Ways.

That's where it's listed in the X-Ray. Also, Ishy loves pulling people in the Flesh into TAR. (I didn't turn hardware acceleration off for this screenshot, but the episode title, time stamp, and subtitles should give you a clear idea of where this scene is in the episode.)

Didn't say her plan was smart or well thought out. (We also don't know how long she's in the ways for... If you go by the Teaser for S2E5, I'm guessing it's only about 12 hours?) I'm actually far more concerned with how the hell she's going to get 3 bodies out of Tar Valon, to the Way Gate outside of the city... Unless they've hidden another Way Gate inside the city that Moiraine didn't know about...

Don't need to shield them, if they're unconscious! It's the same way Benadryl works with Allergies.

Well, we know Rand, Moiraine, Logain, and Siuan (via trailer) are all in Cairhien. Rand will probably find out about what's going on out west via Siuan. Hopefully we'll get a flicker-flicker scene with Rand & Moiraine as they head west. Lan is probably heading full tilt to Cairhien to protect Moiraine... he might miss her before they go flicker flicker. Siuan & Logain will probably head back to the Tower where her plot line might end with her getting thrown in Prison. I don't know if Mat & Min are heading to Cairhien or Toman Head, which ever it is they'll probably meet up with Rand at one of those two places before the Finale.

Yeah so... My reply was in agreement with @king of nowhere, within the context of European centric history, which was easily enough followed within the conversation we were having via terms like Victorian era, Renaissance era, and Medieval era... The Renaissance started in the 14th century and ended by the 17th century. The Victorian era was the "19th" century, which gives us a time period between the 1200s-1700, and 1800-1900. Around the 16th and 17th century we got Puritans, which eventually in America Developed into Quakers and neither of them necessarily have the most sex-positive history attached to them. Even though I agreed with "king from nowhere", that from a Euro-centric POV that they were rather prudish, I also stated that despite that; behind closed doors they were quite freaky under the sheets. If you want to be pedantic like every single user on Reddit then you are correct. The "Victorian era" was not the "most repressive era ever" and it would be hard to quantify that. The wording used was far to absolutist. I should have used far more qualifying statements to bypass your need to be correct. I apologize. I'll try to do better next time. Yes, and it is a very real world issue to this day that should be considered a human rights violation. There is no "might" to this. It 100% still exists and is an active real world problem, that like above should be treated as a human rights violation.

Season 1, there was no on screen indicator that Rand channeled in the Ways, until the flashback scene where we saw that he in fact did. If everyone's adamant that the writers are lazy and crappy. Why wouldn't they recycle a flashback use of the power? They've already recycled fake out deaths.

Ah that's why. I never sat down and watched that entire thing.

100% true, and repression also has the adverse effect of causing people to do the very thing they say they admonish in public... People were getting quite freaky behind closed doors. Prostitution was rampant... at least where it wasn't outlawed. Nobility were some of the worst hypocritical offenders. As for things like heartleaf. Greeks or Romans were said to have had something similar, but it was supposedly soo popular it became extinct. Exactly. This is a fantasy series. Not a historical documentary. 😉