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[bopolis]

@lenlo,

 

on both your lists you have Sooh on the lower portion but youhavent really talked about her.

 

Whay makes you think she might be a wolf here?

[Darthe]

Hey bop how do you feel about the thread atm? I know that's vague, I'm mostly interested in your thoughts on players developing fast relationships with you despite you being new.

[Lenlo]

lenlo,

 

what is there to follow up on, if its true ill die sooner rather than later and you'll know for sure and if it's not true you can marinate on what that means WRT my alignment.

 

no need to discuss it,

See, I wanna know more about it. Is it a play? Is it for reactions? Is it real? If it was real, why would you not push it more? Your very lackadaisical about the whole thing for someone with a purported wolf read. Then theres Not Bob just not addressing it at all, how do you feel about that? Theres plenty to discuss here Bop.

 

@lenlo,

 

on both your lists you have Sooh on the lower portion but youhavent really talked about her.

 

Whay makes you think she might be a wolf here?

Her connection to DPR, in that DPR is using her post about a connection between you and Eldrick. If DPR is a wolf, I think she has a decent chance of being one two. So shes down there for that, but im not lynching her before DPR because if he is town then I dont think it means she has to be a wolf.

[bopolis]

 

lenlo,

 

what is there to follow up on, if its true ill die sooner rather than later and you'll know for sure and if it's not true you can marinate on what that means WRT my alignment.

 

no need to discuss it,

See, I wanna know more about it. Is it a play? Is it for reactions? Is it real? If it was real, why would you not push it more? Your very lackadaisical about the whole thing for someone with a purported wolf read. Then theres Not Bob just not addressing it at all, how do you feel about that? Theres plenty to discuss here Bop.

 

 

 

I'm lackadaisical about pushing it because i don't need to. Other people have expressed concern over his alignment and i believe he has several votes already so i don't need to be any more obvious than i have to. As for his lack of a response, I have several concerns but since he's getting adequate enough heat im looking elsewhere for the time being.

 

I would think at somepoint he would acknowledge the hampster in the room but who knows

[bopolis]

Hey bop how do you feel about the thread atm? I know that's vague, I'm mostly interested in your thoughts on players developing fast relationships with you despite you being new.

 

Not sure what you mean by fast relationships. If you mean people reading me villa or interacting with me i think there are as many people open to calling me a villager as there are people who are either unsure or wolf leaning me. I don't think me and DPR are going to dinner anytime soon. Androj kind of villa reads me but he also is wary since i'm his secret wolf. Pralaya/wildfire are a bit skeptical and most others i think have me as a question mark with several posts they like(probably where I should be).

 

I like that there are several people pushing towards not bob. As I said to lenlo, and androj earlier in the week, regardless of what i claimed i have several concerns over his play so far and I think he definitely warrants being in the conversation for today's lynch. I have a small scum read on DPR but i think it's more of wanting it to be true. I think it's interesting that we both seem to agree about not bob being scummy. 

 

pretty much where my head and feels are at. 

[Lenlo]

See... I dont understand that from a towny mindset. If you know someone is a wolf, and people are believing you, why would you just sit back and do nothing rather than try to push it through and get the lynch? If you sit back, the chance of a lynch stagnating is pretty good yeah? At the very least, I would expect a towny to bring it up or push him or drill him for answers to things or something. But sitting back and letting a lynch just... fall into place? Thats something wolves do so they can say later "Hey, I didnt push this lynch", and yeah that might not work for you if you were a wolf since we have you sorta-kinda claiming a role and that could be a smoking gun, but ive seen people talk their way out of worse situations.

 

You understand where im coming from?

[DPR]

 

2. wrong.  My question to DPR is why he thinks dricky is nervous not why he is voting for him.  Big difference.

 

DPR says in the post you quoted "Beat me to it. I've never played with Eldrick and don't know a thing about his meta, but whenever anybody posts fluff and then goes back to explain why they posted fluff, it trips me. I also am not a big fan of meta-based cases  in general. Anyone can change up a play style and equally, anyone can be having a day where they are distracted and post differently than they would."

 

When reading DPR's quote this would be the anwser to why he's reading DPR as nervous. DPR can chime in and if im mistaken then i concede that i was wrong about this point.                          

 

 

You're mistaken - no one is reading me as nervous. We await your concession.

 

Hey bop how do you feel about the thread atm? I know that's vague, I'm mostly interested in your thoughts on players developing fast relationships with you despite you being new.

 

 

I had to pick this post up with a plastic bag and then hold it with my forefinger and thumb before I dropped it n the trash.

 

There's a difference between "developing fast relationships" and systematically putting yourself into the orbit of every discussion so that you can sway opinions. Could be a scum tell, could be townie swagger - we'll know soon enough - but you asking nicely about how bop "feels" and then setting up a forum from which he can spread his gospel is diiiiiirrrrrty.

 

FOS Darther & bop. 

[bopolis]

DPR, the question wasn't about you being nervous

[DPR]

But you said I was read as nervous...

[DPR]

And that I could chime in if you made a mistake. 

 

Done and done.

[bopolis]

See... I dont understand that from a towny mindset. If you know someone is a wolf, and people are believing you, why would you just sit back and do nothing rather than try to push it through and get the lynch? If you sit back, the chance of a lynch stagnating is pretty good yeah? At the very least, I would expect a towny to bring it up or push him or drill him for answers to things or something. But sitting back and letting a lynch just... fall into place? Thats something wolves do so they can say later "Hey, I didnt push this lynch", and yeah that might not work for you if you were a wolf since we have you sorta-kinda claiming a role and that could be a smoking gun, but ive seen people talk their way out of worse situations.

 

You understand where im coming from?

 

if i was a roll that could glean information on people's alignments, then I think it is self evident as to why i wouldnt want to blow my loud immeadiately straight out the gate. Because as a new player to this site, i'd never actually openly claim something like that in my first few posts. That would be ludicrous, amirite?

 

but i don't think i'm letting this lynch fall into place. I'm calling him a wolf based on zero information and continually saying he's a good candidate to be lynched. If he doesn't flip exactly wolf, my feet should be held to the fire. 

[bopolis]

And that I could chime in if you made a mistake. 

 

Done and done.

i made a mistake, It was meant to read as "When reading DPR's quote this would be the anwser to why he's(DPR) reading eldrick as nervous"

 

but ya got me

 

i concede

[DPR]

 

And that I could chime in if you made a mistake. 

 

Done and done.

i made a mistake, It was meant to read as "When reading DPR's quote this would be the anwser to why he's(DPR) reading eldrick as nervous"

 

but ya got me

 

i concede

 

 

 

Just makes me wonder if you're nervous.

 

You don't have anything to be nervous about, do you? 

[bopolis]

 

 

And that I could chime in if you made a mistake. 

 

Done and done.

i made a mistake, It was meant to read as "When reading DPR's quote this would be the anwser to why he's(DPR) reading eldrick as nervous"

 

but ya got me

 

i concede

 

 

 

Just makes me wonder if you're nervous.

 

You don't have anything to be nervous about, do you? 

 

 

im scurred if you keep putting me under this pressure i'll out my teammates.

 

but im gonna keep on playing cool and keep on preaching

[bopolis]

DPR,

 

why don't we bury the hatchet and you can just come on and join the 'church of bopolis of latter-day villagers'

[Wildfire Sedai]

 

2. wrong.  My question to DPR is why he thinks dricky is nervous not why he is voting for him.  Big difference.

 

DPR says in the post you quoted "Beat me to it. I've never played with Eldrick and don't know a thing about his meta, but whenever anybody posts fluff and then goes back to explain why they posted fluff, it trips me. I also am not a big fan of meta-based cases  in general. Anyone can change up a play style and equally, anyone can be having a day where they are distracted and post differently than they would."

 

When reading DPR's quote this would be the anwser to why he's reading DPR as nervous. DPR can chime in and if im mistaken then i concede that i was wrong about this point.                          

 

 

red: maybe that's why people think I'm naughty from D1 and I'm town  Anyway it says that it TRIPS ME.  ME being DPR NOT DRICKY.  

 

light salmon: You just proved my point.  It was DPR that was nervous NOT dricky.

 

 

 

 

2. what I said was: "I seem to recall self meta posts are usually thought to be "naughty." cause this is a lying game so people will lie about their meta.  That being said:"  then I gave an example of the tiink/dricky exchange.  Where tiink says that dricky's self meta might actually be legit (my words).  Where then I commented on/gave two examples of how tiink could use .his response to dricky:      A. Tiink could honestly believe dricky or  B. Tiink could be setting him up for later in the game.  So, I don't know where you got  self reaps of scum games are naughty,

 

 

reaps is a typo for recaps; and i get it from the sentence i underlined in the above quote

 

 

I think this is where our problem is:  I know that meta comes from previous games.  However, I don't believe that's all there is to meta.  I believe that a person's personality, emotional status, sleep/leisure/work activities, etc. all go into a person's meta. And since you are "nitpicking", I said, "seemed" which is less forceful than did or had.  

 

It's like the square and the rectangle.  The square is a square and a rectangle,  However the rectangle is not a square.  

 

That being said: It is OKAY to give SELF META .  

 

WHY:

 

1.  I am someone who is almost always seen as naughty from D1

 

2. I believe there is more to META than just what is posted in the game.  A person has a life outside of the game.  That too is brought into the game.

 

3. At the risk of seeming naughty (in other people's eyes) ---- I am a nervous person IRL which transposes to the game, I feel the need to explain myself multiple times until I get fed up/or don't have enough time. 

[Lenlo]

 

See... I dont understand that from a towny mindset. If you know someone is a wolf, and people are believing you, why would you just sit back and do nothing rather than try to push it through and get the lynch? If you sit back, the chance of a lynch stagnating is pretty good yeah? At the very least, I would expect a towny to bring it up or push him or drill him for answers to things or something. But sitting back and letting a lynch just... fall into place? Thats something wolves do so they can say later "Hey, I didnt push this lynch", and yeah that might not work for you if you were a wolf since we have you sorta-kinda claiming a role and that could be a smoking gun, but ive seen people talk their way out of worse situations.

 

You understand where im coming from?

 

if i was a roll that could glean information on people's alignments, then I think it is self evident as to why i wouldnt want to blow my loud immeadiately straight out the gate. Because as a new player to this site, i'd never actually openly claim something like that in my first few posts. That would be ludicrous, amirite?

 

but i don't think i'm letting this lynch fall into place. I'm calling him a wolf based on zero information and continually saying he's a good candidate to be lynched. If he doesn't flip exactly wolf, my feet should be held to the fire. 

 

 

First, I have a feeling this is going to be a pretty heavily PRed game. Sooo... not to 

 

Second, thats just it. I dunno, id expect someone of either alignment to build off of the initial "view" and look at NBs posts, build a case or something off of it. In reality your not really doing anything in regards to NB though. Guess well see.

[bopolis]

 

 

Second, thats just it. I dunno, id expect someone of either alignment to build off of the initial "view" and look at NBs posts, build a case or something off of it. In reality your not really doing anything in regards to NB though. Guess well see.

 

 

as i said previously, he's posting little to no game related content. I think it's wolfy but others disagree. Not much to build a case out of when you don't give alot. 

[Hallia]

 

 

Pg 41 - 45: This may be the case, but I still dont think that excuses the terrible setup/linking they did of Eldrick and Bop, both of which are decently towny players imo (#801). We have a random! Your a very silly person Eldrick (#828). Explain this if you can Eldrick (#832)? Calder, still not doing stuff. Either 3rd party or town, because this is exactly how I remember him behaving in the Gods and Demons cult game. Stop spamming (#859). Disagree with Not Bob (#866). I wanna see where this came from, I wanna see why those 3, and that FOS could be returned back to you Bob. tl;dr DPR (#867). Can agree with DPR on this (#869). NB is a worry. I really like Darthes come-back on page 45. Its flippant, while still being game related, and its his thoughts rather then stretching/manipulating other peoples posts to make them look like crap.

 

Pg 46 - 50: Still like Darthe all of page 46. Pral, at the time of you calling me absent, I still had more posts then you (#939). Get real. Tiink on page 48 just kinda feels... artificial? I dunno, its weird.

 

Pg 51 - 55: Some back and forth dick wagging. You never really explained it Eldrick (#1062). Nyn, your posting about me not being around at 3:32 am my time (#1093). Of course im not going to be around.

 

Pg 56 - 60: I still wanna see the case on Tiink (#1133). Sorry Bop, but Wifi isnt a wolf this game. NB is freaking me out. Hes just calling people wolves and never saying why. I think now hes called Darthe, Eldrick and Tiink all wolves and not given reasons for any of them? Just single quotes and a "wolfy"? Its past the joke phase.

 

 

 

bopolis

Wildfire Sedai

Eldrick4221

Darthe

Shad_

BEWBS MCGEE (AKA Nynaeve + Hallia Hydra)

 

Andrej

Pralaya

Tiinker

Randomh3r0

 

Sooh

Not Bob (鲍勃不是我的名字)

Calder - Possible 3rd Party

DreadPirateRoberts

 

Ordered with a +-1 margin of error. [v]Calder[/v]. Dude is literally playing exactly like Gods and Demons. Reminds me of 3rd party. Not ok with it.

 

Also, can we follow up on Bops NB role thingy please? Bop! Talk to me about that! Whats going on in that front, cause it hasnt been talked about at all.

 

I have people in my scum leans, but I'm voting someone I think is 3p; what?

[Lenlo]

 

 

 

Second, thats just it. I dunno, id expect someone of either alignment to build off of the initial "view" and look at NBs posts, build a case or something off of it. In reality your not really doing anything in regards to NB though. Guess well see.

 

 

as i said previously, he's posting little to no game related content. I think it's wolfy but others disagree. Not much to build a case out of when you don't give alot. 

 

I suppose.

 

And incase it wasnt clear, I agree that its wolfy.

[bopolis]

 

 

2. wrong.  My question to DPR is why he thinks dricky is nervous not why he is voting for him.  Big difference.

 

DPR says in the post you quoted "Beat me to it. I've never played with Eldrick and don't know a thing about his meta, but whenever anybody posts fluff and then goes back to explain why they posted fluff, it trips me. I also am not a big fan of meta-based cases  in general. Anyone can change up a play style and equally, anyone can be having a day where they are distracted and post differently than they would."

 

When reading DPR's quote this would be the anwser to why he's reading DPR as nervous. DPR can chime in and if im mistaken then i concede that i was wrong about this point.                          

 

 

red: maybe that's why people think I'm naughty from D1 and I'm town  Anyway it says that it TRIPS ME.  ME being DPR NOT DRICKY.  

 

light salmon: You just proved my point.  It was DPR that was nervous NOT dricky.

 

 

 as i went over with DPR, that was a typo of mine; Unless you are saying you meant to ask DPR why he was nervous rather than why eldrick is nervous, is that what you are saying?

[DPR]

DPR,

 

why don't we bury the hatchet and you can just come on and join the 'church of bopolis of latter-day villagers'

 

 

I don't know... I mean, it sounds legit. But still...

[Lenlo]

 

 

 

Pg 41 - 45: This may be the case, but I still dont think that excuses the terrible setup/linking they did of Eldrick and Bop, both of which are decently towny players imo (#801). We have a random! Your a very silly person Eldrick (#828). Explain this if you can Eldrick (#832)? Calder, still not doing stuff. Either 3rd party or town, because this is exactly how I remember him behaving in the Gods and Demons cult game. Stop spamming (#859). Disagree with Not Bob (#866). I wanna see where this came from, I wanna see why those 3, and that FOS could be returned back to you Bob. tl;dr DPR (#867). Can agree with DPR on this (#869). NB is a worry. I really like Darthes come-back on page 45. Its flippant, while still being game related, and its his thoughts rather then stretching/manipulating other peoples posts to make them look like crap.

 

Pg 46 - 50: Still like Darthe all of page 46. Pral, at the time of you calling me absent, I still had more posts then you (#939). Get real. Tiink on page 48 just kinda feels... artificial? I dunno, its weird.

 

Pg 51 - 55: Some back and forth dick wagging. You never really explained it Eldrick (#1062). Nyn, your posting about me not being around at 3:32 am my time (#1093). Of course im not going to be around.

 

Pg 56 - 60: I still wanna see the case on Tiink (#1133). Sorry Bop, but Wifi isnt a wolf this game. NB is freaking me out. Hes just calling people wolves and never saying why. I think now hes called Darthe, Eldrick and Tiink all wolves and not given reasons for any of them? Just single quotes and a "wolfy"? Its past the joke phase.

 

 

 

bopolis

Wildfire Sedai

Eldrick4221

Darthe

Shad_

BEWBS MCGEE (AKA Nynaeve + Hallia Hydra)

 

Andrej

Pralaya

Tiinker

Randomh3r0

 

Sooh

Not Bob (鲍勃不是我的名字)

Calder - Possible 3rd Party

DreadPirateRoberts

 

Ordered with a +-1 margin of error. [v]Calder[/v]. Dude is literally playing exactly like Gods and Demons. Reminds me of 3rd party. Not ok with it.

 

Also, can we follow up on Bops NB role thingy please? Bop! Talk to me about that! Whats going on in that front, cause it hasnt been talked about at all.

 

I have people in my scum leans, but I'm voting someone I think is 3p; what?

 

3rd Party, IE Cult or SK, are notably more dangerous than a single wolf. Kill the Cult Leader early, no cult, kill the SK, thats 1 less nightly kill. If hes not 3rd party, decent odds hes also a wolf. Pretty clear.

 

Also, is it a surprise that I of all people want to kill the 3rd party? How many times do I have to screw with everyone as a 3rd party for people to be wary of them?!

[DPR]

 

 

2. wrong.  My question to DPR is why he thinks dricky is nervous not why he is voting for him.  Big difference.

 

DPR says in the post you quoted "Beat me to it. I've never played with Eldrick and don't know a thing about his meta, but whenever anybody posts fluff and then goes back to explain why they posted fluff, it trips me. I also am not a big fan of meta-based cases  in general. Anyone can change up a play style and equally, anyone can be having a day where they are distracted and post differently than they would."

 

When reading DPR's quote this would be the anwser to why he's reading DPR as nervous. DPR can chime in and if im mistaken then i concede that i was wrong about this point.                          

 

 

red: maybe that's why people think I'm naughty from D1 and I'm town  Anyway it says that it TRIPS ME.  ME being DPR NOT DRICKY.  

 

light salmon: You just proved my point.  It was DPR that was nervous NOT dricky.

 

 

 

 

2. what I said was: "I seem to recall self meta posts are usually thought to be "naughty." cause this is a lying game so people will lie about their meta.  That being said:"  then I gave an example of the tiink/dricky exchange.  Where tiink says that dricky's self meta might actually be legit (my words).  Where then I commented on/gave two examples of how tiink could use .his response to dricky:      A. Tiink could honestly believe dricky or  B. Tiink could be setting him up for later in the game.  So, I don't know where you got  self reaps of scum games are naughty,

 

 

reaps is a typo for recaps; and i get it from the sentence i underlined in the above quote

 

 

I think this is where our problem is:  I know that meta comes from previous games.  However, I don't believe that's all there is to meta.  I believe that a person's personality, emotional status, sleep/leisure/work activities, etc. all go into a person's meta. And since you are "nitpicking", I said, "seemed" which is less forceful than did or had.  

 

It's like the square and the rectangle.  The square is a square and a rectangle,  However the rectangle is not a square.  

 

That being said: It is OKAY to give SELF META .  

 

WHY:

 

1.  I am someone who is almost always seen as naughty from D1

 

2. I believe there is more to META than just what is posted in the game.  A person has a life outside of the game.  That too is brought into the game.

 

3. At the risk of seeming naughty (in other people's eyes) ---- I am a nervous person IRL which transposes to the game, I feel the need to explain myself multiple times until I get fed up/or don't have enough time. 

 

 

OMG. You poor thing.

[bopolis]

 

DPR,

 

why don't we bury the hatchet and you can just come on and join the 'church of bopolis of latter-day villagers'

 

 

I don't know... I mean, it sounds legit. But still...

 

free football phone when you join.