[Advanced] Lost Mafia--Game Over!

[Darthe]

Also, DPR, I understand where you're coming from irt Eldrick, in vacuum. Especially knowing this is your first game with him (and this is precisely why I asked early on). The problem with him though is that you can basically always find these gaping logic holes in his posts, regardless of alignment. He says the most atrocious things. Because that's how he plays, for better or worse. I could easily sit here and critique it every single game with him...and policy lynch him for it.... but at some point I decided it's a waste of time and that I'm more interested in winning instead of telling him off, because I don't think he's going to change the way he plays. So I'm more.... lets say forgiving... at his proclivity of saying stuff that make me want to rip my hair off. And in a way... it feels like the more awful he sounds the more likely it is that he's town prolly. Because he has like no filter. With that said, I did find him taking off cause of cloudflare when AJ called him sketchy a bit awkward like... so I'll keep it in mind. I also wanna see what Hallia thinks once she catches up today.

 

On a semi related note, what are your thoughts on Wifi?

Hey dpr this is an accurate eldrick meta, which this forum has become content with maintaining for people who arent so good.

 

So pursue it to your hearts content imon

[Darthe]

 

Oh and Darthe can go into the "no ****ing clue" pile along with NB.

Deep down you know I'm town. Just own it. Who's your WTL?

Dont you beg you asianic imposter

[Nynaeve]

Hey dpr this is an accurate eldrick meta, which this forum has become content with maintaining for people who arent so good.

So pursue it to your hearts content imon

 

 

Guess the urban dictionary was spot on....

[Darthe]

 

Honestly, the DPR/Shad/AJ thing didn't really have much juice and doesn't seem like it's worth me digging into. It's like they're arguing more about the technicalities of the game and the state of mafia and don't actually bother too much about discussing bops or Elds alignments. Guess they've all handled it pretty well but doesn't really say much when the topic isn't primarily to do with this game. I'm gonna stick to unvote vote darthe and head out.

Awesome...knew I liked this guy...unvote, vote darthe.

Lol

[Darthe]

 

Hey dpr this is an accurate eldrick meta, which this forum has become content with maintaining for people who arent so good.

So pursue it to your hearts content imon

 

Guess the urban dictionary was spot on....

Way too accurate

[Darthe]

 

Also possibly worth noting, to anyone that would even care to believe me, I made the cloudflare post before I knew aj said I was sketching him out. I came back to that.

Eldrick prolly town. He sound too butthurt. Seems genuine.

Among other things yeah

[Nynaeve]

It doesn't help that I've had to catch up every single time I've been here, and that basically nobody have been around for real time convo. 

 

I don't really see you trying to talk much either, though. I mean some of the players have been here when you just caught up. Do you actually have anything to talk about?

[Nynaeve]

be back in a few

[Hallia]

I think you're sort of misunderstanding the premise of the read. It wasn't based on any of your content as far as I can tell but purely for the fact that you had a third of the game's posts at the time. You're still leading even now. I agree that it's an easy read to make and is a generic tell but for someone playing their first game on a new forum I didn't hate it. And despite your insistence that post count isn't indicative for you, it kind of is. You were the same way in Hackers. Which is why I said it was pretty good for Bop.

 

All that said I get what you're saying about Bop making easy reads which have sort of bugged me a little but that's probably me nit picking and just being paranoid. Like his reverse on Nyn and why. I agreed that the reads looked on par for stuff Nyn makes reads on early (which he wouldn't know) even if I didn't necessarily agree with all of them. But he went from scum reading to town reading because she actually gave reads (which is null) and because she said she was copying them from a QT which wasn't very relevant imo.

 

I thought his sus on DPR was smart too since I was thinking along those lines but he adds factors that I don't really think are that important like saying DPR must be antagonizing Shad on purpose for whatever reason. I'm still hesitant on DPR but I get the idea he could be a villa so that makes me wonder more about Bop. Hence the secret wolf thing.

 

TLDR - we'll see. I think he's made some smart posts but I don't think it would be super impossible for scum to make the same reads.

 

This reads as so effin' nice to me.  I'm giving you a solid nice read, AJ.

 

I'm not disagreeing with his read on Nyn.

 

Ffs Eldrick, read man lol

 

I'm saying the process is sort of fishy to me because of his provided reasons. Nyn saying they're coming from the QT means nothing and shouldn't really be the selling point to town reading her.

 

Lets make this clear since I've seen this popping up a couple of times. The only reason I pasted some stuff from what I was talking about with Hallia, was because I wasn't planning on saying much ITT. Hallia was going to. But then despite of this resolve, players were being invested and wanting something to work with and I didn't want to be an hindrance to the progress of the game. So I divulged some stuff. Just because I want to try something different doesn't mean I want it to get in the way, so to speak.

 

So yeah... the whole origin of my reads shouldn't matter. It's just how it turned out due to the circumstances. So just look at my reads.

 

 

She was just supposed to be the eye candy, but she just loves mafia too much

omg I can't believe I forgot my amazing co-star.

 

<3 Halli

 

 

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Lyndsey

That's the sweetest thing anyone's ever said about me

 

I think Halli might have said that she was ok with Darthe, but I'll ask her later to make sure.

 

At least it's the weekend so she should have more time, hopefully.

 

I am currently townreading Derf, yes. :)

Are you going to chase me? It's been a while since I had any admirers.

 

SO I MEAN NOTHING!?

Honestly, the DPR/Shad/AJ thing didn't really have much juice and doesn't seem like it's worth me digging into. It's like they're arguing more about the technicalities of the game and the state of mafia and don't actually bother too much about discussing bops or Elds alignments. Guess they've all handled it pretty well but doesn't really say much when the topic isn't primarily to do with this game. I'm gonna stick to unvote vote darthe and head out.

 

Dislike this vote.

Also, DPR, I understand where you're coming from irt Eldrick, in vacuum. Especially knowing this is your first game with him (and this is precisely why I asked early on). The problem with him though is that you can basically always find these  gaping logic holes in his posts, regardless of alignment. He says the most atrocious things. Because that's how he plays, for better or worse. I could easily sit here and critique it every single game with him...and policy lynch him for it.... but at some point I decided it's a waste of time and that I'm more interested in winning instead of telling him off, because I don't think he's going to change the way he plays. So I'm more.... lets say forgiving... at his proclivity of saying stuff that make me want to rip my hair off. And in a way... it feels like the more awful he sounds the more likely it is that he's town prolly. Because he has like no filter. With that said, I did find him taking off cause of cloudflare when AJ called him sketchy a bit awkward like... so I'll keep it in mind. I also wanna see what Hallia thinks once she catches up today.

 

On a semi related note, what are your thoughts on Wifi? 

Agreed wrt Eldrick

 

Wildfire Sedai might be a wolf.

 

She made a couple multiquotes that upon reread, readas just recapping what was going on rather than bringing new things to the table. Also the directed questions shemakes seem a bit off. 

 

multiquote incoming with what i'm talking about

 

A lot of people tend to scumread Wifi until they get to know her, myself included.

 

No. One more thing first.

 

Sooh. Game related is wrong, as I mentioned already. Reads related is closer, but what I was really getting at is more akin to solve related.

 

I didn't get what aj liked in your posts. I discussed the 3 that he said he liked. I don't see your trying to solve the game. I used the term "good" to refer to this.

I understand that, and it feels like just warming up at this point. It doesn't help that I've had to catch up every single time I've been here, and that basically nobody have been around for real time convo. 

 

I had the same problem last night.

[DPR]

 

lol again at Shat for threatening to lynch me and nobody calling that out as scummish. LOL

 

I don't because that's how they operate here a lot of times and it's not really alignment indicative because it's so "per norm" here. I'm not saying it makes it right, just that it makes it null for Shad. Like I mentioned before, I had someone treat me the exact same way last game and we were both town. I was basically told, play ball or get lynched. It's this kind of mentality that surfaces up where's you have to like prove yourself to certain individuals while they're basically talking down to you just because they don't have you as a town read. Don't get me wrong, I do work with the method of.... finding town leans and trying to narrow down my PoE.... but I'd like to think I don't come across this way.

 

 

It's knee-jerking and introducing unnecessary elements into the game that people invent when they can't actually play. Meh.

 

Now stop sucking up to me and get me some damn coffee - tf do i pay you for?

 

None of that post was a joke. I meant every word. That is the events that happened around the time in question, where you called my inactivity scummy.

 

I have 2 jobs. I'm not on here during one of those jobs. That job is Tuesday from 6-1030pm and Friday from 6p-1am.

 

I chose to have my attention with my best friend on Thursday instead of here, and won't tolerate my choosing real life over a game as a reason for an attack.

 

As for my naming the wrong day in the first time I posted it and then correcting myself, how is that an issue? I said the wrong day.

 

So ball is in your court now. Do you wish to continue using the fact I wasn't here, for completely legitimate reasons that have nothing to do with the game, to come after me?

 

 

Side note. When I left because of cloudflare that was legit frustration with the site. It had nothing to do with aj saying I sketched him out. I also don't care that I did. All I care about is solving the game.

 

Okay, clearly Eldrina has some issues in the emo dept., which could very well be what I picked up and commented on. Don't know, don't care.

 

It stuck out, I mentioned it, and instead of saying "oh yeah, that... this cat is related to the guy that hides under blankets and defends Brittney" y'all go on and on telling me I didn't see something I saw.

 

Pumpkin, I don't care why you do what you do - I'm just here to judge you for doing it.  

 

And with that I'm going to sleep. I work in about 8 hours.

 

Keep us posted. :P

 

Also, DPR, I understand where you're coming from irt Eldrick, in vacuum. Especially knowing this is your first game with him (and this is precisely why I asked early on). The problem with him though is that you can basically always find these  gaping logic holes in his posts, regardless of alignment. He says the most atrocious things. Because that's how he plays, for better or worse. I could easily sit here and critique it every single game with him...and policy lynch him for it.... but at some point I decided it's a waste of time and that I'm more interested in winning instead of telling him off, because I don't think he's going to change the way he plays. So I'm more.... lets say forgiving... at his proclivity of saying stuff that make me want to rip my hair off. And in a way... it feels like the more awful he sounds the more likely it is that he's town prolly. Because he has like no filter. With that said, I did find him taking off cause of cloudflare when AJ called him sketchy a bit awkward like... so I'll keep it in mind. I also wanna see what Hallia thinks once she catches up today.

 

On a semi related note, what are your thoughts on Wifi? 

 

Don't know yet.

 

 

lol at half the game trying to explain to me how I have to present reads on d1, and then none of them have reads.

 

lol again at Shat for threatening to lynch me and nobody calling that out as scummish. LOL

 

A special shout-out goes to Sooh for her reasonable post. It was a breath a fresh air.

 

Now, on to why Eldrick's play is complete and utter shite:

 

but I'm feeling like Eldrick has been less active as well.

My lack of activity Wednesday was prior explained. I hung out with my best friend.

 

I tried to dig into the thread when I got home, but was too tired to focus.

 

Friday is a busy day for me and I'm typically not on until later (hi).

 

Go ahead and use that against me though. People using short term lack of activity is seriously scummy, and I will gladly vote you for it if you try to push that angle.

From my perspective, your early posts seemed shaky. I commented on it, bop came to your rescue, then you laid low. My experience is that it's common to see a player talk too much, then pull a vanishing act to mitigate the damage. This is usually followed by questions being put to that player to explain their behavior. A flustered answer usually results in more heat being put on that player, and so on.

 

Your response is new to me - not because I haven't seen people bullshit before, but because you seem to think I'm going to believe you? I'm not sure if this is a joke or not - seriously - so if it is, please let me know and I'll treat it as such.

 

Regardless, your logic stream for the rest of the post is jacked - you go from "I've already given the reason why" to "and then this happened" with the "I was tired" thing, all the way to "and now for something completely random" by mentioning how busy you were.

 

And then, the capper: you polish it off with whining about how I'll probably use it against you. Then you follow in Shat's footsteps with the "I will lynch you" threat.

 

This entire post is laughable.

 

I don't believe you. I don't care what your excuses are. Here's a tissue, and vote me all you want. Done and done. Saves time and reading.

 

 

 

but I'm feeling like Eldrick has been less active as well.

My lack of activity Thursday was prior explained. I hung out with my best friend.

 

I tried to dig into the thread when I got home, but was too tired to focus.

 

Friday is a busy day for me and I'm typically not on until later (hi).

 

Go ahead and use that against me though. People using short term lack of activity is seriously scummy, and I will gladly vote you for it if you try to push that angle.

FTFM

And here you have to go back and correct your facts. Not that you're nervous or anything...

Ok. Now to Bop.

 

It's been bugging me that he townread me because of my post count. Thinking about it, most of the posts I made when he gave that read were fluff posts. The number of posts meant diddly.

 

It really feels like an easy town read on someone. I'm curious why the people that agreed with his read (aj and Sooh I think) did so.

Distancing. Terrible and obvious distancing.

 

***

 

And then we fast forward to where you do the same duck & run routine on posts #1108 thru #1111 - I don't know how to link them and my multiquote didn't work for whatever reason. Regardless, you get called out for being "sketchy", you try to explain it off, get called sketchy again and you blame Cloudflare for ditching the thread...

 

So, even though it's only d1, it seems like you have already created a pattern of disappearing anytime someone calls you out on a post.

 

To me, this isn't town play. This is awkward scum play.

Hey , why dont I care Bout you at all yet this game? Its an oddity

 

 

 

Yes Darthe, I've seen you jumping up and down in the back row and don't worry, I'm sure we'll get to spend some meaningful time together.

 

But for now, calm yourself while I sort out what this"pervasive" nonsense is that has overtaken the board. Shhhh.

[Nynaeve]

lmfao

[Nynaeve]

Trust me, if I were sucking up, you'd be asking for a cigarette, not coffee.

[Nynaeve]

And yeah, you'd mostly likely have to pay for it.

[DPR]

Trust me, if I were sucking up, you'd be asking for a cigarette, not coffee.

 

 

And yeah, you'd mostly likely have to pay for it.

 

 

Solid posts imo. Lock villagery. Oh, and rand wolf (just to get those in there). 

[Nynaeve]

Trying to get hip with the youngsters, are we?

[Lenlo]

Pg 1 - 19 Fluff and crap because I dont wanna read it

 

Pg 20 - 25: I still dont see what Eldrick is saying in regards to AJ/Tiink and the antagonistic response. Eldricks self meta is null, he was asked a question, dont really care about it. Here Eldrick posted like 4 times before DPR could explain a post. Could be figgiting about DPRs read, could just be hyper Eldrick. Gonna remember it though. This is gamblers fallacy and you know it (#446). This read by Bop (#472) seems really lazy to me. Lazy town or pocketing wolf? His reasing about post counts later on is alright though.

 

Did this bob vote ever get resolved? (#485). Cause Bop is claiming a role here that told him Bob is wolf. From what im reading everyone is glossing over it.

 

Pg 25 - 30: So Bop is asking questions and learning the people around here, which is good, but makes me more concerned over that random Bob claim. Hesitant AJ agreeing (#543) Already explained the red flag to Shad (#578). I disagree with Calder but I think the argument hes making comes from a towny mindset (#596), the whole no-lynch argument.

 

 

Pg 31 - 36: Around here, im noticing Nyn is throwin around alot of posts but not a whole lot of relevant gameplay. Only really getting involved with the no-lynch and PPP stuff. Prals in! I agree with this post by Shad (#644). The idea that Bop was covering for Eldrick is a reach, as neither was in that bad a place all things considered. Sooh and DPR worry me now, because thats a wolfy idea to be pushing imo. Possibly this and maybe that (#679), a good case does not make. Whats the case on Tiink? (#701). Decent post from Bop, but im awaiting Hallia as shes the one thats gonna decide the slot for me (#713).

 

Pg 37 - 40: WIFI (#737), I am to lazy to go back and get you post numbers, but basically DPR says "This post is Terrible", Eldrick says "What about it" and then 3 other posts immediatly after DPRs post. The red is just my general estimation of all his posts.

 

 

Things that need to be followed up on:

-BOP, wth is that not bob role read thing? This legit? WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT IT

 

Not ordered at all, just grouped

 

bopolis

Eldrick4221

Shad_

Wildfire Sedai

 

Darthe

Tiinker

BEWBS MCGEE (AKA Nynaeve + Hallia Hydra)

Pralaya

Randomh3r0

Andrej

Not Bob (鲍勃不是我的名字)

Calder

 

Sooh

DreadPirateRoberts

 

Where im at atm. Sorry I was absent, but those first like 20-30 pages just made my eyes glaze over with stupid amounts of fluff posts.

[DPR]

Trying to get hip with the youngsters, are we?

 

 

It's kind of like the drinks at Starbucks - everybody is having them, so you get curious what they taste like. Then you spit it out and have to go brush your teeth. My toothbrush is wet.

[Nynaeve]

Pg 31 - 36: Around here, im noticing Nyn is throwin around alot of posts but not a whole lot of relevant gameplay. Only really getting involved with the no-lynch and PPP stuff. 

 

I comment about game content plenty. Try again.

[Nynaeve]

Like I dunno what I said specifically in those pages. And if you're not fully caught up, that's fine. But just sayin'.

[DPR]

 

Pg 31 - 36: Around here, im noticing Nyn is throwin around alot of posts but not a whole lot of relevant gameplay. Only really getting involved with the no-lynch and PPP stuff. 

 

I comment about game content plenty. Try again.

 

 

 

I saw that too and laughed - dude has barely posted.

[Nynaeve]

 

Trying to get hip with the youngsters, are we?

 

 

It's kind of like the drinks at Starbucks - everybody is having them, so you get curious what they taste like. Then you spit it out and have to go brush your teeth. My toothbrush is wet.

 

 

I've only been to a Starbucks once in Prague and I didn't know what to order... so I just had plain coffee >.>   #dork

[Nynaeve]

I don't know what PPP means. Now I know what it feels like to be DPR.

[Nynaeve]

Also @Lenlo.... why is Hallia gonna decide the slot for you?

[Lenlo]

 

Pg 31 - 36: Around here, im noticing Nyn is throwin around alot of posts but not a whole lot of relevant gameplay. Only really getting involved with the no-lynch and PPP stuff. 

 

I comment about game content plenty. Try again.

 

Its as if I am not fully caught up. Cause it only goes to page 45 and I skipped the first 20. Destress your breasts and relax.

 

 

 

Pg 31 - 36: Around here, im noticing Nyn is throwin around alot of posts but not a whole lot of relevant gameplay. Only really getting involved with the no-lynch and PPP stuff. 

 

I comment about game content plenty. Try again.

 

 

 

I saw that too and laughed - dude has barely posted.

 

I cant observe things on catchup? The fact that I havnt been active up till now doesnt invalidate the post/points. Argument from Authority. Shush.

[Lenlo]

Also @Lenlo.... why is Hallia gonna decide the slot for you?

Cause I dunno how to read you. Some things I think you say for fluff you say are legit game posts, some things I think are game posts you call fluff and its really just a cluster f*** of me not understanding you. Atleast with Hallia, theres a method ive come to recognize to her madness. On page 45 now btw.