Hackers Mafia - Game Thread [Game Over]

[Darthe]

Darthe?

 

Have you ever reconsidered your read on me and Eldrick?

You've had posts where it seemed like you did, but then you dropped it because "it's not enough to overshadow the bad" I believe was similar to your wording. You have to understand that reading you under these circumstances with you effectively refusing to reconsider your reads makes it really hard to read you. Your last bit here on BFG and Pral has been eye-opening in that case.

I gotta back up.  "Eye-Opening".  What an amazing lack of information that descriptor provides.  Can I borrow that for later?

[dicetosser1]

 

 

 

 

Nothing. Just night things.

 

 

right im going to be voting pral 

 

Again, does scum!Pral think to fake claim here?

 

If he's scum, he knows there are no more PRs to flush out, so why do it?

 

 

to suck us in.

 

 

 

Dice, what are your reads?

 

sucky. i find it surprising that you havent been piled on which makes me think you are scum. Also possible is that pral is scum and trying a bit of a gambit.

 

Interesting BFG hasant been hammered yet imo

 

agreed  see above

 

But for real, how did neither of you not know that BFG can't be hammered yet?

 

 

cause im not keeping track of how many are needed for a lynch.

 

 

 

@ darthe   i am very definetly considering lynching sock. they are driving me nuts with how they cant get on the same page about anything and im beginning to think its on purpose.;

 

You're 218 pages in and just now starting to think it's intentional?

 

 

ive been considering it too weird to be intentional

[Sooh]

 

Darthe?

 

Have you ever reconsidered your read on me and Eldrick?

You've had posts where it seemed like you did, but then you dropped it because "it's not enough to overshadow the bad" I believe was similar to your wording. You have to understand that reading you under these circumstances with you effectively refusing to reconsider your reads makes it really hard to read you. Your last bit here on BFG and Pral has been eye-opening in that case.

I gotta back up.  "Eye-Opening".  What an amazing lack of information that descriptor provides.  Can I borrow that for later?

 

Literally everything you've done this game is discredit me and my partner. 

 

LITERALLY EVERYTHING!

 

You're not even looking for towny motivation in our posts. You're looking for scummy motivation. 

[Zander?]

 

 

Did anyone vote yet?

 

Also sorry for not being here. Had a rough couple of days.

 

Hope everything is ok <3 <3 <3

 

Pral has voted BFG and thats it.

 

Pral with a first vote IS interesting. 

 

It's rare for mafia to vote first in these instances, but it's not a straight up LYLO, but rather MYLO, so scum strategies may vary some. 

 

What did you all decide on when it comes to No lynch?

 

Claiming if there's a final PR?

 

 

Claiming atp means nothing imo.

 

I think certain Scum players may not but I dont think that would be a general rule of thumb for me at least but this is my first locked vote game.

 

No lynch was a better option before a vote opened up imo.

[Zander?]

My sister is being induced today. She's having her baby!

 

My focus will be on that, but I will check in here too.

 

glgl brother!!!!!!!!!!!

[Zander?]

 

My sister is being induced today. She's having her baby!

 

My focus will be on that, but I will check in here too.

 

I'll hold down the fort. Maybe. 

 

I have to sleep at some point very soon though.

 

 

[Zander?]

 

Dice, what are your reads?

 

sucky. i find it surprising that you havent been piled on which makes me think you are scum. Also possible is that pral is scum and trying a bit of a gambit.

 

Interesting BFG hasant been hammered yet imo

 

agreed  see above

 

 

could very well be w/w imo

[Darthe]

 

 

Darthe?

 

Have you ever reconsidered your read on me and Eldrick?

You've had posts where it seemed like you did, but then you dropped it because "it's not enough to overshadow the bad" I believe was similar to your wording. You have to understand that reading you under these circumstances with you effectively refusing to reconsider your reads makes it really hard to read you. Your last bit here on BFG and Pral has been eye-opening in that case.

I've had a few moments, but I'm never waffling.  I adamantly don't think you're town, and if you're reading your partners posts irt me you should really see why.  

 

There's just no way you aren't wolves.

 

I'm reading my partner's posts. He's literally showing you every single paranoid thought and theory he has. Are you reading mine?

 

Imagine for ONE MINUTE that we're town. Do you realize how hard it is to be level headed with you this game? Regardless if you're town or scum, it has been almost impossible to talk to you without being dismissed. Part of me thinks that a townie would be more interested to flush out what their suspects have to say about the game or people in it, while the other part thinks you might just be stubborn as hell, and that scum you would at least put up the pretense of hunting for other scums, because that's not something I've seen much of from you this game. 

 

Let's play it out then.  Your partners every paranoid thought, btw, should be kept off thread because here?  It's gameplay.  

 

But sure, say you're town.  I'm dogging you about as relentlessly as Zander did Cass, so you're probably frustrated with me and paranoid at this point that I am a wolf cause how could a townie do this to you??  Been there, most of us know what that's like from one time or another.  If you're town though, there's a huge problem.  Zander got ahead so he is off the table but Laya and Dice and BFG and I?  We could be interchanged on a list with a couple of better or worse posts.  Laya?  Really astute but also really tied to Shad, and I'd say he can fake a townie string, also had that issue at EoD yesterday with voting but I don't think that is unsensible tbh.  Dice, clean atm but historically a bit less present and some of his points are really unfounded.  BFG, unsound logic lately and not as present as she should be, and some opportunistic pushes in the late game.  Me?  One focus and one focus only, and I don't play a lazy game but I also don't reread or do the whole high effort case thing.

 

Who you gonna pick?  At this point it's a matter of somehow putting together a team all at once and it clicks or we are done for.

 

So no, I like my chances chasing the lead I found 180 pages ago, and I'd rather show others what I see.  I trust myself.

[Zander?]

 

 

Btw dice, your reason for wanting to vote Pral was terribad. His vig soft claim wasn't scummy in the slightest.

 

I have a reason it can be but Ill let Dice answer it.

 

Was this ever answered? I didn't come across it.

 

 

I havent seen it

[Eldrick4221]

Wasn't pral doing that to Zander too?

[Zander?]

 

 

 

I think my biggest mistake this game was town reading Darthe because of him consistently going after sock and basically noone else, and for his response to my hypothetical post.

 

The first reason is null and a bad reason to Town read someone.

 

When Darthe took my words out of context the second time, it made me realize the first one wasn't towny.

 

With that in mind, I haven't thought Darthe was town all game before these happened. He was null or lower. He convinced me he was town, and I'm realizing that was a bad read.

 

I think Darthe is scum.

 

I've spent most of the game thinking dice is town. I've had to reconsider when the poe shrunk and I thought I might be wrong. I looked for connections for him to make sense as scum, with varying success. He was in my poe so I compared him with every one that was possible scum to me (Pral and bfg). Neither made enough sense. The reason for town anger makes a lot more sense than scum anger. I was just blinded by my tunnel.

 

I think dice is town.

 

As I said before, BFG has been spending a lot of energy pointing out how dice is town. How his list doesn't make sense to put both his teammates as early town reads. Bfg doesn't make sense to be scum if dice is town.

 

I think bfg is town

 

Zander is the towniest player in the game. Will not be voting there.

 

I think Zander is town

 

CONCLUSION:

 

SCUM IS DARTHE AND PRAL

Look, theres the flip flop! Holy hell man, you went from laya js a wolf with cass, idc who I vote to laya is town, to me questioning it so now we are both wolves?

 

Am I stupid? I cant be the only one who sees this and thinks it's never coming from a townie. Hell, he even bolded for effect to give some urgency.

 

 

I dont think a Wolf is gonna flip flop like this imo.

 

They don't have much choice itg.  You're eating it up, so apparently it works, but I know that if I suddenly was wolf reading cass yesterday you'd be on me like butter on a biscuit.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wolf me would want to create a thread environment that made it impossible to vote me, to harass and belittle anyone who read me wolf until everyone was afraid to place their votes. I've simply not done that this game.

 

I could give a ton of self meta, but that's pointless. Just think about the above. You guys have played with me so much, how do you not know by now? I'm not a wolf. I'm just not doing the dog wolf me does.

This is a joke Darthe, no one is scared of you,

Some definitely are, but that isn't my point. I'm just explaining how wolf me would want to shape the thread.

Your self Meta talk is like psychiatrist talk imo.....

You see what you want to see. Figure it out Z, im not game to lose this because you wanna be rigid.

 

 

 

I don't actually listen to these, you know?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I sense that we aren't collectively going to vote sock today still :/

 

Zander, as w player you're so wasted by your own rigidity. You got your lynch and it was wrong, you got your evidence, but you can't let go of your biases enough to figure it out. Like I said, a waste.

Aren't you playing similar w.r.t sock?

Maybe, but the difference is im gonna be right.

Just like you claimed in PoTC you were right about me!?!?!

 

Cause youre doing the same thing here irt Sock imo.

Oh look a past game, I'm sure that will man something to me.

 

Different games make different situations and it is balony to try and invalidate my read based on "well youve been wrong before". Ironic given yesterday.

My point is i was wrong on Cass right on Shad what are you at thus far?

 

Thats my point.

 

Just because I was wrong on Cass dont mean im wrong on my other reads man.

It doesnt make me wrong that ive not caught a wolf yet either. How often am I this adamantly set on a read, and that read never take off? Its not happened in my memory (faulty though that may be). Theres a reason for that, and it isnt just your opposition. Eldrick is being carried and that needs to crack.

 

 

Well me in PoTC comes to mind, um seph in a couple straight games when he came back, I wanna say Mafia Karts was one but i may be wrong....

 

Micheal Jordan missed a game winning basket 38 times in his career.  

 

 

1. I would but youre also not Eldrick now are you?
2. I dont care if you listen or not I do it because I want to.
3. Lets see what MJ thinks of you comparing yourself to him...

 

[Darthe]

Way way sexier

[Darthe]

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

Vote Count 4.01

 

Not voting: Everyone

 

Votes are locked as the game is in MyLo.

Dont forget this!!!!!

 

I dont think ive ever played a game with locked votes.

Oh, you didn't play in the game where Darthe was scum and me and sooh were in lylo with locked votes and we lost?

 

You know, maybe you should read it. To see how scum darthe plays

Yeah, that would be relevant. Zanders a reader anyhow. Which game is it?

 

 

No i didnt

 

I don't understand this response Z.

 

 

I didnt play in that game,

 

I also dont know what game hes referring to.

[Sooh]

Zander? What do you think about BFG today?

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Vote Count 4.01

 

Not voting: Everyone

 

Votes are locked as the game is in MyLo.

Dont forget this!!!!!

 

I dont think ive ever played a game with locked votes.

Oh, you didn't play in the game where Darthe was scum and me and sooh were in lylo with locked votes and we lost?

 

You know, maybe you should read it. To see how scum darthe plays

Yeah, that would be relevant. Zanders a reader anyhow. Which game is it?

 

 

No i didnt

 

I don't understand this response Z.

 

 

I didnt play in that game,

 

I also dont know what game hes referring to.

 

I'm good on that.  Don't you reread games if someone else posts them?

[Andrej]

Vote Count 4.06

 

BFG (1) - Pralaya

Not voting: Darthe, Zander, Dice, Sock, BFG

4 to lynch

DL in 1 hour and 45 minutes.

[Zander?]

 

 

Darthe?

 

Have you ever reconsidered your read on me and Eldrick?

You've had posts where it seemed like you did, but then you dropped it because "it's not enough to overshadow the bad" I believe was similar to your wording. You have to understand that reading you under these circumstances with you effectively refusing to reconsider your reads makes it really hard to read you. Your last bit here on BFG and Pral has been eye-opening in that case.

I gotta back up.  "Eye-Opening".  What an amazing lack of information that descriptor provides.  Can I borrow that for later?

 

Literally everything you've done this game is discredit me and my partner. 

 

LITERALLY EVERYTHING!

 

You're not even looking for towny motivation in our posts. You're looking for scummy motivation. 

 

 

I felt Pral was doing this to me fwiw.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

Darthe?

 

Have you ever reconsidered your read on me and Eldrick?

You've had posts where it seemed like you did, but then you dropped it because "it's not enough to overshadow the bad" I believe was similar to your wording. You have to understand that reading you under these circumstances with you effectively refusing to reconsider your reads makes it really hard to read you. Your last bit here on BFG and Pral has been eye-opening in that case.

I've had a few moments, but I'm never waffling.  I adamantly don't think you're town, and if you're reading your partners posts irt me you should really see why.  

 

There's just no way you aren't wolves.

 

I'm reading my partner's posts. He's literally showing you every single paranoid thought and theory he has. Are you reading mine?

 

Imagine for ONE MINUTE that we're town. Do you realize how hard it is to be level headed with you this game? Regardless if you're town or scum, it has been almost impossible to talk to you without being dismissed. Part of me thinks that a townie would be more interested to flush out what their suspects have to say about the game or people in it, while the other part thinks you might just be stubborn as hell, and that scum you would at least put up the pretense of hunting for other scums, because that's not something I've seen much of from you this game. 

 

Let's play it out then.  Your partners every paranoid thought, btw, should be kept off thread because here?  It's gameplay.  

 

But sure, say you're town.  I'm dogging you about as relentlessly as Zander did Cass, so you're probably frustrated with me and paranoid at this point that I am a wolf cause how could a townie do this to you??  Been there, most of us know what that's like from one time or another.  If you're town though, there's a huge problem.  Zander got ahead so he is off the table but Laya and Dice and BFG and I?  We could be interchanged on a list with a couple of better or worse posts.  Laya?  Really astute but also really tied to Shad, and I'd say he can fake a townie string, also had that issue at EoD yesterday with voting but I don't think that is unsensible tbh.  Dice, clean atm but historically a bit less present and some of his points are really unfounded.  BFG, unsound logic lately and not as present as she should be, and some opportunistic pushes in the late game.  Me?  One focus and one focus only, and I don't play a lazy game but I also don't reread or do the whole high effort case thing.

 

Who you gonna pick?  At this point it's a matter of somehow putting together a team all at once and it clicks or we are done for.

 

So no, I like my chances chasing the lead I found 180 pages ago, and I'd rather show others what I see.  I trust myself.

 

 

I got ahead?!!?!?

[Darthe]

 

 

 

Darthe?

 

Have you ever reconsidered your read on me and Eldrick?

You've had posts where it seemed like you did, but then you dropped it because "it's not enough to overshadow the bad" I believe was similar to your wording. You have to understand that reading you under these circumstances with you effectively refusing to reconsider your reads makes it really hard to read you. Your last bit here on BFG and Pral has been eye-opening in that case.

I gotta back up.  "Eye-Opening".  What an amazing lack of information that descriptor provides.  Can I borrow that for later?

 

Literally everything you've done this game is discredit me and my partner. 

 

LITERALLY EVERYTHING!

 

You're not even looking for towny motivation in our posts. You're looking for scummy motivation. 

 

 

I felt Pral was doing this to me fwiw.

 

Pot/kettle, like every every game dude.  You dig for whatever fits your belief once you decide what alignment someone is, how can you complain about someone else doing it?

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

Darthe?

 

Have you ever reconsidered your read on me and Eldrick?

You've had posts where it seemed like you did, but then you dropped it because "it's not enough to overshadow the bad" I believe was similar to your wording. You have to understand that reading you under these circumstances with you effectively refusing to reconsider your reads makes it really hard to read you. Your last bit here on BFG and Pral has been eye-opening in that case.

I've had a few moments, but I'm never waffling.  I adamantly don't think you're town, and if you're reading your partners posts irt me you should really see why.  

 

There's just no way you aren't wolves.

 

I'm reading my partner's posts. He's literally showing you every single paranoid thought and theory he has. Are you reading mine?

 

Imagine for ONE MINUTE that we're town. Do you realize how hard it is to be level headed with you this game? Regardless if you're town or scum, it has been almost impossible to talk to you without being dismissed. Part of me thinks that a townie would be more interested to flush out what their suspects have to say about the game or people in it, while the other part thinks you might just be stubborn as hell, and that scum you would at least put up the pretense of hunting for other scums, because that's not something I've seen much of from you this game. 

 

Let's play it out then.  Your partners every paranoid thought, btw, should be kept off thread because here?  It's gameplay.  

 

But sure, say you're town.  I'm dogging you about as relentlessly as Zander did Cass, so you're probably frustrated with me and paranoid at this point that I am a wolf cause how could a townie do this to you??  Been there, most of us know what that's like from one time or another.  If you're town though, there's a huge problem.  Zander got ahead so he is off the table but Laya and Dice and BFG and I?  We could be interchanged on a list with a couple of better or worse posts.  Laya?  Really astute but also really tied to Shad, and I'd say he can fake a townie string, also had that issue at EoD yesterday with voting but I don't think that is unsensible tbh.  Dice, clean atm but historically a bit less present and some of his points are really unfounded.  BFG, unsound logic lately and not as present as she should be, and some opportunistic pushes in the late game.  Me?  One focus and one focus only, and I don't play a lazy game but I also don't reread or do the whole high effort case thing.

 

Who you gonna pick?  At this point it's a matter of somehow putting together a team all at once and it clicks or we are done for.

 

So no, I like my chances chasing the lead I found 180 pages ago, and I'd rather show others what I see.  I trust myself.

 

 

I got ahead?!!?!?

 

Did you miss that you're in everyones top 2?

[Zander?]

Wasn't pral doing that to Zander too?

 

If youre a Wolf and Ive hard defended you all game while you sheeped me and make me look like more of an ass then I usually do imma policy lynch you next 3 games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Darthe]

 

Wasn't pral doing that to Zander too?

 

If youre a Wolf and Ive hard defended you all game while you sheeped me and make me look like more of an ass then I usually do imma policy lynch you next 3 games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Define "more"

[Zander?]

Zander? What do you think about BFG today?

 

Pretty blah, her I cant/dm ate my posts stuff feels weak.

 

I mean if its just because shes away and is Town, its gonna suck.

 

I prolly still leaning Pral today.

[Darthe]

I sense that I'm gonna get speed lynched if I yolo vote BFG, but guys it's getting hard to not do.