Hackers Mafia - Game Thread [Game Over]

[Eldrick4221]

 

Pral/Amega/Shad

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What if this was the wolf team?

Still a possibility.

 

Wouldn't it be weird if z called out the whole team d1?

 

And mostly because of activity level.

[Eldrick4221]

Yeah this isn't getting me anywhere. Trying to read Darthe's ISO to see if it makes sense for him to be scum

Keep noticing things he said that are interesting considering who's still alive, but not insight into his alignment.

[Eldrick4221]

And I'm getting tired :/

[Darthe]

I sense that we aren't collectively going to vote sock today still :/

 

Zander, as w player you're so wasted by your own rigidity. You got your lynch and it was wrong, you got your evidence, but you can't let go of your biases enough to figure it out. Like I said, a waste.

[Darthe]

Wolf me would want to create a thread environment that made it impossible to vote me, to harass and belittle anyone who read me wolf until everyone was afraid to place their votes. I've simply not done that this game.

 

I could give a ton of self meta, but that's pointless. Just think about the above. You guys have played with me so much, how do you not know by now? I'm not a wolf. I'm just not doing the dog wolf me does.

[Pralaya]

I sense that we aren't collectively going to vote sock today still :/

 

Zander, as w player you're so wasted by your own rigidity. You got your lynch and it was wrong, you got your evidence, but you can't let go of your biases enough to figure it out. Like I said, a waste.

Aren't you playing similar w.r.t sock?

[Darthe]

 

I sense that we aren't collectively going to vote sock today still :/

 

Zander, as w player you're so wasted by your own rigidity. You got your lynch and it was wrong, you got your evidence, but you can't let go of your biases enough to figure it out. Like I said, a waste.

Aren't you playing similar w.r.t sock?

Maybe, but the difference is im gonna be right.

[Pralaya]

I am not very sure about that

[Darthe]

Yeah.

[Andrej]

Vote Count 4.02

 

Not voting: Darthe, Zander, Dice, Pralaya, Sock, BFG

 

DL in roughly 35 hours.

[BFG]

Good evening :)

[BFG]

 

Look at Pral's Darthe read through the game. He's always shifting Darthe just out of his POE, I'm trying to get Pral to explain his reads enough to see if that's on purpose or not

 

Hence asking about you in his latest reads post etc

 

Can you show me this please

 

 

 

 

I am only about 40 pages into the game. Unlikely I will catch up before deadline. Just too many posts.

 

Thoughts so far:

 

Manbat felt townie in that outburst. Don't see him being that emotional as town. So is Nyn. 

Zander has looked fine despite his lower than usual posts. Typical as an early Zander game. 

 

Eldrick seems aggressive and posting a lot. Some posts stood out - like voting Manbat around the time he was active - which looked a bit opportunistic. And, his going after Darthe when he mentioned that he is not going to read the game. I would say he falls under the category of "too wolfy to be a wolf".

 

Notbob, Darthe and Dice seem null or they are playing like they usually do D1. 

 

One person I find odd is Shad. Not about the level of posting but he just looks like drifting through the game. His posts seem too passive and he is commenting on general stuff. That is really odd knowing how he plays. If at this point, I am asked who is scum, I would say Shad.

 

 

 

I'm in shock because until the results I hadn't felt they would flip that way. And with the talk of a strongman I didn't first assume BG could've protected me.

 

So that's where I'm at. And reading back.

I don't know. It looked like shad was scum and Calder was town, especially after his stance on NotBob end of day yesterday.

 

Personally, I would next look at Darthe and Zander because the next scum is likely in these two.

 

 

 

 

Im not the only one who thinks theres Wolves in there so thoughts on that?!?!?

 

So it seems like you think im a wolf, can you lay out the case on me please?

 

Also would be my partner in that case?

 

And assume for a moment Im confirmed Town somehow, who are the Wolves then iyo and why?

 

You have basically said scum is in sock/cass/dice and has also said I may have bused Shad. Who is remaining?

 

You do realise that except Darthe and Amega and the other known town, you are calling everyone a scum suspect, right? And, I am casing you and showing where I am thinking you are scum. 

 

If you ask me, neither of those 3 are likely to be scum. My thoughts say Zander > Amega > Darthe as the likely scum remaining. I confess though, I haven't read Darthe in detail - this is just from POE based on my town reads

 

 

 

Ok, went through Darthe ISO - he is very, very passive the entire game. Doesn't take a strong stance, tunneling on Sock since the start of the game. Scum Darthe doesn't like to let the game go on its own but wants to steer the lynches. I don't see that intention here. Either he is trying to intentionally change his playstyle or he is bored town. I am thinking latter.

 

Similar observation regarding Sooh. She gets less motivated as scum as the game goes on. This game, she is quite active throughout the game and still intent on solving it. Previous read is stronger now.

 

Cass - While my mind says she logically cannot be scum, I don't like the pushes on sooh and me. Seems to be the easier way to go as scum since the other options are harder. Plus, thinking over it, my logic goes for a toss if she is actually the traitor who cannot co-ordinate with Shad

 

BFG is a conundrum. I don't think I can or ever have read her just by going through her posts. Need some good sense of seeing her votes before getting a read on her. Unfortunately, that is lacking in this game. So, I don't know

 

Dice is also a null. I haven't seen anything off in his posts but not seeing the same motivation I have seen in him as town. I need to ISO him properly. But, Nyn came across as town to me.

 

That leaves Zander who I have talked much so far. There is definitely a wolf in zander/BFG/Dice and I think it is Zander. If cass flips scum, that would clear Zander because I don't see them as w/w at all.

 

The problem is there is only one day of voting pattern that we can analyse effectively and even in that the push was mainly focused on one or two. I am not very confident of my reads frankly

 

 

 

Zander (1) - Dice

Sock (1) - Darthe

Not Bob (5) - Marsh, Zander, Random, Shad, Sock

Sock (1) - Not Bob

 

Not voting: Pralaya, Amega, Cass, Calder

 

7 to lynch

The closest alternate train was Sooh, which doesn't exactly say much.

 

 

 

Zander

Dice

Darthe

Sock

BFG

 

That would be my order

 

[BFG]

Oh god, Darthe ISO is 15 pages

[Eldrick4221]

Where I'm at.

 

One scum in bfg/pral. Don't think it's both.

 

One scum in dice/Darthe. Don't think it's darthe

[Eldrick4221]

Because of that, I am leaning dice for lynch today

[Eldrick4221]

Just letting you guys know. Sooh feels like crap today and might not even show up in the thread.

[Eldrick4221]

But I'm also working on seeing if I'm wrong about darthe.

[dicetosser1]

@PRAL    what did you do last night?  

[Eldrick4221]

 

Zander

 

Dice

Sock

Darthe/BFG

Pral

 

Darthe

 

Zander

Bfg

Laya

Dice

Sock

 

Pralaya

 

Zander

Dice

Darthe

Sock

BFG

 

BFG

 

Zander

Sock

Dice

Darthe

Pral

 

Eldrick

Zander

Darthe

Pral

BFG

Dice

 

Dice

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[Eldrick4221]

Rn pral is the only person 2 people share as their lowest.

[Eldrick4221]

Dice, your input please

[Eldrick4221]

I am not very sure about that

If I'm in your lowest 2, why are you saying things like this?

[Eldrick4221]

Ranked everyone by these lists (still awaiting dice input) to see what the thread thinks of everyone comparatively.

 

Self read is 0 points. Top scum read is 5 points.

 

Zander's split read on darthe/bfg is 3.5 each

 

Zander: 4 points (expecting 9 after dice contributes)

Darthe: 12.5 points

Sock: 13 points

BFG: 14.5 points

Dice: 15 points

Pral: 16 points

 

Zander is by far the towniest read player in the game (no surprise there)

 

Pral is the scum midst.

 

But the rest of us are really close.

[Eldrick4221]

Scummiest*

[Eldrick4221]

This data of course takes into account 2 scum reads, but I can't know which ones those are, so they have to be included.

 

This chart says that the thread collectively says the scum are Pral and dice, or at least that the scum are in pral/dice/bfg.

 

Also no shock there.