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Eldrick4221 Master

Eldrick4221

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As I explained earlier and Sooh expanded upon, reasons that I think Darthe is town.

 

He read something I said that sounded like tmi if taken out of the hypothetical context I stated it in (Started with "I see a world where"). That felt like a towny mindset.

 

The fact that he has been stuck on our lynch and hasn't really tried to go for anyone else doesn't sound like scum. Scum would be trying to set up mislynches. He reads as "town convinced they found scum."

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Eldrick4221 Master

Eldrick4221

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  On 12/6/2016 at 12:12 AM, Darthe said:

 

  On 12/6/2016 at 12:10 AM, Ironeyes said:

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 11:59 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 11:49 PM, Ironeyes said:

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 9:13 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

Hanging with Marsh ldo

I'm sorry! You guys left a lot for me to catch up on. Still haven't read EoD. So Cass got lynched, was town right?
Yes Cass was lynched.

 

Yes Cass was town.

 

Darthe convinced me he was town.

Still think Zander is town. Tinfoil for making too much sense.

 

Scum probably between bfg/pral/dice

 

Lot of debate on which it is. Basically everyone has one or both of them as lowest reads.

 

Pral soft claimed vig. If there's 2 kills he's clear imo

Interesting. So Zander showed himself to be town for sure, and you think Darthe is too?
It's late but I think you me and zander finally have some small core.

Late is better than never. I'm glad one exists, even if I'm not in it.

Ironeyes Veteran

Ironeyes

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  On 12/6/2016 at 12:12 AM, Darthe said:

 

  On 12/6/2016 at 12:10 AM, Ironeyes said:

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 11:59 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 11:49 PM, Ironeyes said:

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 9:13 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

Hanging with Marsh ldo

I'm sorry! You guys left a lot for me to catch up on. Still haven't read EoD. So Cass got lynched, was town right?
Yes Cass was lynched.

 

Yes Cass was town.

 

Darthe convinced me he was town.

Still think Zander is town. Tinfoil for making too much sense.

 

Scum probably between bfg/pral/dice

 

Lot of debate on which it is. Basically everyone has one or both of them as lowest reads.

 

Pral soft claimed vig. If there's 2 kills he's clear imo

Interesting. So Zander showed himself to be town for sure, and you think Darthe is too?
It's late but I think you me and zander finally have some small core.
Better late than never I guess.
Eldrick4221 Master

Eldrick4221

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  On 12/6/2016 at 12:59 AM, Darthe said:

Hey so if I snap voted dice come morning do you think he'd be mad?

Prolly lol.

 

I would be too if I didn't think he's likely scum atp.

Eldrick4221 Master

Eldrick4221

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Dice/Pral

I think that dice moving his vote at eod is a scummy move. There have been people saying that scum!dice doesn't do that, but it still makes sense to me for Dice to save his teammate (pral) by moving to Cass right at the end.

 

BFG/Pral

Pral is known for bussing his teammate. Pral and bfg going at each other could very well be w/w.

 

BFG/Dice

If dice is bfg's scum mate, her trying to explain that dice doesn't bus and move his vote like that as scum makes complete sense. She's trying to dissolve the suspicion by saying scum!dice doesn't do that.

 

I'm at a loss at which one makes more sense.

Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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  On 12/5/2016 at 6:21 PM, BFG said:

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 9:18 AM, Pralaya said:

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 3:21 AM, BFG said:

@Pral the point was that you had Zander/Darthe as most likely suspects. In your next list you'd shifted Darthe above Amega and said that Darthe was there because POE. Why make that distinction between Darthe/Amiga?

 

Why didn't you answer me as to who you thought the team was/clarify your POE?

 

Why if you had Zander as town, would a post he made be 'trying to look town' instead of just thinking he was town from it (assumption being that if somebody does something that makes them look town, the action they're faking is townie by itself)?

Because Amega had no posts and Darthe had a lot of content. Amega being there due to POE was so obvious that there was no need for it to be stated. Don't know what you are trying here (I actually do).

 

The ones I had confidence were town at that time?

 

I don't get the third question. When did I have Zander as town at that time?

 

I'm trying to understand your mind set

 

So did you just forget Amega in the first list that had Zander/Darthe?

 

At the start of the game you had Zander as town, then changed your mind when he 'faked anger to look townie' (paraphrased). Why was your first assumption that he was faking anger when you'd previously read him as town?

 

 

I hope youre a Villager.

 

I said the same thing.before.

 

Everything he's brought up like that he went with it from a Scum or negative angle while calling me Town first, it looks like hes trying to FIND a reasons for me TO BE Scum as opposed to actually trying to determine it imo.

dicetosser1 Spam Master

dicetosser1

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  On 12/5/2016 at 7:19 PM, Sooh said:

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 1:29 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 12/4/2016 at 11:31 PM, Zander said:

 

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you realise i asked for a hydra for a reason right? Im in 2 games on 2 sites and its the busy end of year at work so im getting slammed and im still a bit crook. thats why i wanted a hydra cause i wasnt sure id be able to be active enuff..

 

im gonna follow my gut. Vote Pral  dont ask me for good reasons for it because i honestly dont have any its just my gut screaming.

 

i MIGHt be able to be here a tiny bit before DL but lunch is over so i dont know for sure. depends on the calls.

 

Does Dice ever bus??

 

 

yep if i need to

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 7:23 PM, Sooh said:

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 1:30 AM, dicetosser1 said:

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 1:25 AM, Darthe said:

 

  On 12/4/2016 at 11:25 PM, Eldrick4221 said:

I see a world where Darthe votes us and scum piles on and it's a repeat of last game.

This may well be a slip folks.

 

 

how so?

 

Eldrick told me about Darthe's reaction to his post earlier. With Darthe's slip reaction, this Dice reaction might just as well be a slip.

 

 

what are u talking about here @sooh?

 

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 8:23 PM, BFG said:

Dice, what? Volume makes it easier to fake what?

 

it is easier for you to fake ure town game when u havent been high volume at least to me when reading you

 

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 8:25 PM, Sooh said:

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 8:16 PM, dicetosser1 said:

 

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"my heads a mess  the more eldrick posts the more i want to vote him but a part of that is that hes frustrating me.

 

i seriously cant shake a sus of zander. he can scream at me that hes town all he likes but i just cant.

 

i have no idea what to make of you. i could see you sitting on one person all game as scum just to try it but i dont know. you arnt on the block for me tomorrow

 

bfg has been towny but the volume is giving me a worry cause that makes it easier for her to fake.

 

pral i still want to lynch but im also gonna factor in this supposed action of his come day"

 

This is like hedging on EVERY read.

 

 

How DARE i be confused about who the scum are. lets see why.

 

we have a hydra who cant even get on the same page as each other and who has one head thats crazy scummy and one thats more towny but has done somethings that pinged me.

 

we have zander who is not in his normal town madness.

 

we have bfg who subbed in for someone who didnt bother to show but hasnt been super dooper active yet

 

we have pral who shows occasionally  is having more presence now 

 

and Darthe. enuff said.

 

and im not active enuff and lost my other head.

 

yeah no reason to be confused at all right?

 

 

  On 12/6/2016 at 12:59 AM, Darthe said:

Hey so if I snap voted dice come morning do you think he'd be mad?

 

Guaranteed.

 

  On 12/6/2016 at 1:20 AM, Eldrick4221 said:

Dice/Pral

I think that dice moving his vote at eod is a scummy move. There have been people saying that scum!dice doesn't do that, but it still makes sense to me for Dice to save his teammate (pral) by moving to Cass right at the end.

 

BFG/Pral

Pral is known for bussing his teammate. Pral and bfg going at each other could very well be w/w.

 

BFG/Dice

If dice is bfg's scum mate, her trying to explain that dice doesn't bus and move his vote like that as scum makes complete sense. She's trying to dissolve the suspicion by saying scum!dice doesn't do that.

 

I'm at a loss at which one makes more sense.

 

sigh  you dont know me at ALL do you? or are u just scum trying to frame me?

 

If i was scum and both cass and pral were town i would not have moved. i wouldnt care which one died really.

 

if pral was my teammate I would never have been ON him at that point. He wasnt in any danger. He didnt NEED to be bussed.

 

As the town that i am the bunch of you have seen me move my vote to a train to secure a lynch. ive done it heaps.

 

 

ME and BFG    why would bfg try to say i dont bus when it is easily proven that i do?? I GUARENTEE that darthe nows it. Hes seen enuff of me as scum in his games to know. Zander knows cause i was on lenlo with him and was suggesting that he bus ME if need be.

 

Sock SHOULD know as they have played with me enuff.

Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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  On 12/5/2016 at 6:22 PM, Pralaya said:

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 6:16 PM, Zander said:

 

First of all Im only one person ffs,

 

Because most people dont think like i do, or form reads like I do or see the things i see (or think I see sometimes....sadface.gif)

 

But the difference is I know I read Shad well enough, Im not sure how well you actually do or not tho.

 

Because Cass and you were the 2 i found Scummiest, just because I was wrong on Cass dont mean Im wrong on you.  And I think its been pretty obv youre going out of your way to discredit my reads in general.

 

 

That's because I know my alignment and i know how off you have been.

 

I tried to talk to you how Cass couldn't be scum based on how she acted on the cop reveal. I don't see how you saw Cass as scummiest nor can I see how you are seeing me scummiest. I mean, all you are doing is looking only from the bus perspective w.r.t me. I have been trying to make you understand that but you have been stubborn throughout the game. I don't see any other option.

 

 

I still dont feel like Town!Pral approaches it like that imo.

 

Like you know I was right on Shad and you obv have me as a Villa so I know you can use the "i know im Town".

 

And you know that I do tend to read you fairly well so Im not feeling this approach from you.

Zander? Spam Master

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  On 12/5/2016 at 6:24 PM, Pralaya said:

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 6:20 PM, Zander said:

Well to be fair half the people in there are Wolves so........

 

Not if sock is the wolf.

 

 

But I dont think they are tho

Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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  On 12/5/2016 at 6:40 PM, BFG said:

Ugh, Dice doesn't vote Pral if they're teammates, but why does mafia!Pral wait to vote?

 

Why does Town!Pral?!?!?!?

Zander? Spam Master

Zander?

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  On 12/5/2016 at 6:47 PM, BFG said:

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 6:24 PM, Pralaya said:

 

  On 12/5/2016 at 6:21 PM, BFG said:

I'm trying to understand your mind set

 

So did you just forget Amega in the first list that had Zander/Darthe?

 

At the start of the game you had Zander as town, then changed your mind when he 'faked anger to look townie' (paraphrased). Why was your first assumption that he was faking anger when you'd previously read him as town?

 

No, I just didn't state the obvious regarding Amega.

 

The starting read was just based on 40 pages or something. As the game went on, there were other things like the notbob lynch, his reaction to random reveal etc.

 

I don't know if this can be a really bad case of talking past each other

 

I know your initial read on Zander was based on 40 pages. The post you said was the first one that made you suspicious of him was one that sounds a lot like the thing you accuse Zander of (fitting facts to match tinfoil). Why did you assume that Zanders post was fake anger instead of normal anger?

 

Again, you said that there was mafia in Zander, Darthe. Then you said it was in Zander/Darthe/Amega and that Darthe was POE. So are you saying that we're supposed to assume that you meant to include Amega in the first list and that Amega is POE in the second, despite stating it directly for Darthe?

 

 

Villagery AF imo

Eldrick4221 Master

Eldrick4221

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  On 12/6/2016 at 1:35 AM, dicetosser1 said:

sigh you dont know me at ALL do you? or are u just scum trying to frame me?

 

Think back the games we played together. We consistently scum read each other when we are both town. I thought for once I had you figured out. That I actually realized you were town this game, and that stuck with me until the poe shrunk enough that I had to reconsider. So no, I clearly can't read you very well.

 

If i was scum and both cass and pral were town i would not have moved. i wouldnt care which one died really.

 

I made this point already.

 

if pral was my teammate I would never have been ON him at that point. He wasnt

in any danger. He didnt NEED to be bussed.

 

I'm not just going to take your word on this. The fact that you stayed on him after your reason for sussing him fell through really bugs me.

 

As the town that i am the bunch of you have seen me move my vote to a train to secure a lynch. ive done it heaps.

 

Lynches so far. Notbob (town). Shad (cop viewed scum). Cass (town)

 

The Cass one REALLY bothers me because you are happy about the fact that you kept it from going to random. Because any form of random it could have gone to (tied trains, trains with votes, living players) has a better chance of hitting scum than the result of Cass flipping town.

 

This right here is the single biggest point that makes me think you're scum. That you think lynching Cass was a good move.

 

ME and BFG why would bfg try to say i dont bus when it is easily proven that i do?? I GUARENTEE that darthe nows it. Hes seen enuff of me as scum in his games to know. Zander knows cause i was on lenlo with him and was suggesting that he bus ME if need be.

 

She's making the same points you are. That your votes don't make sense if Pral is your teammate. She's trying to say you are town because of it, and I also see how you could both be scum so she's trying to point out how you're town because of it.

 

Sock SHOULD know as they have played with me enuff.

 

See first point.

Zander? Spam Master

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Ive got about 10 more mins till im gonna be tied up mostly for the next bit.

 

on the off chance im dead.

 

But without seeing the flip, where im at

 

Im sticking to Dice/Sock as Town and obv Iron

 

Scum in order Pral>Darthe>BFG atp

Zander? Spam Master

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  On 12/5/2016 at 7:02 PM, Sooh said:

While I'm catching up. Could final two scums be BFG/Pral? Discuss.

 

Maybe because i feel Scums in BFG/Pral/Darthe but unsure of which 2 yet but Pral is my best choice for 1 of the Scum atp.

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