[Standard] Final Fantasy VII Mafia - Mafia Wins D4

[BFG]

Cory, I want to believe you're town, I think your end of day yesterday looked good, I don't think it's outside of your mafia range from OW, but I have more reason to look elsewhere right now

 

However your tell don't show and your lack of apparent interest outside of end of day (and one very specific dumb thing) is going to keep me tinfoiling on you, and I know if you're town that's going to piss you off, but there's nothing I can do about it unless you do

[Nynaeve]

So I guess you can safely conclude that I didn't kill Alanna.

 

smh

[BFG]

Csarmi hasn't hit any of the town tells I have for him but it's been a very long time since we've played a game together so I dunno. His stubbornness on Sooh may be a good look, but I have no clue what his mafia game looks like.

 

He's still firmly null for me, although I appreciate that's not helpful at this point

[Lizabeth]

 

[v]Sooh[/v]

 

Reasons?

 

Seemed like a good place to start.

 

Catching up now...

[Nynaeve]

Csarmi hasn't hit any of the town tells I have for him but it's been a very long time since we've played a game together so I dunno. His stubbornness on Sooh may be a good look, but I have no clue what his mafia game looks like.

 

He's still firmly null for me, although I appreciate that's not helpful at this point

 

I share the sentiment, fwiw

[Nynaeve]

Demon cove feelz starting to resurface.... lol

[BFG]

and while I appreciate what you're saying about not tin-foiling

 

You, Cory, Sooh, Liz (by reputation) are all extremely capable villagers and more than capable of generating content and I don't understand why it is so hard to do what you all do naturally, but I really wish someone would step up and give me a hand. You and Cory were both in a game where the town lost because once you two and Hallia were dead nobody did anything and I'm a 'little' surprised that you're both ok with the situation as is this time round when last time you were able to fight through

[Lizabeth]

I didn't believe his claim. I'm wrong sometimes.

I asked you this yesterday, but didn't see an answer - why didn't you believe his claim?

[BFG]

And sorry, for the above, it doesn't help :(

[BFG]

And isn't to say any of you are doing nothing

[Lizabeth]

Kat's done nothing which is squarely in both of her ranges

 

Liz has lots to say but doesn't seem to care much about co-operating which doesn't seem much like her town game

I'll need you to explain how I haven't been cooperating.

 

Not starting/continuing a fight, but I was in the thread more than you were on D1, I was pushing/following leads earlier and longer than you were. When people asked me questions I gave them answers.

 

So how was I uncooperative exactly?

[Nynaeve]

and while I appreciate what you're saying about not tin-foiling

 

You, Cory, Sooh, Liz (by reputation) are all extremely capable villagers and more than capable of generating content and I don't understand why it is so hard to do what you all do naturally, but I really wish someone would step up and give me a hand. You and Cory were both in a game where the town lost because once you two and Hallia were dead nobody did anything and I'm a 'little' surprised that you're both ok with the situation as is this time round when last time you were able to fight through

 

How am I OKAY with the situation?!? I pull my weight but I can't MAKE other people do it. I'm sick and tired of signing up to games where people sign up just not to freaking play. I AM TRYING. Just like I tried in Demon Cove and it got me absolutely no where. I'm not saying I'm giving up but I'm not going to make up reads when people aren't giving me content to work with. And aside from asking them REPEATEDLY to do so, I can't do much. Like what do you expect me to do?  I recognize that you've totally been putting in your share, but I find it kind of insulting that you're implying I'm not.

[Lizabeth]

 

Okay, let's see what happens.

 

[v]Ironeyes[/v]

Why Ironeyes?

 

Because I was on the fence on him and wanted to see which way the wagons would flow. (sorry for the mixed metaphor)

[BFG]

I would guess that Cory, Nyn and Liz are town, but I can name a half dozen arguments about each without trying

 

The plus points boil down to:

 

Cory's end of day, main counter lack of effective presence outside of that

 

Nyn's sequence of posts accusing Alanna had a bite that I associate with mafia Nyn, main counter is that I mostly remember a narrow focus where suspicion has shifted from Alanna to Csarmi and I don't recall much digging elsewhere (although I know she has issues with Sooh)

 

Liz has more weight with fewer posts than a number of players, overall approach is similar to a skim of her town game here, but is generally far lower presence than I'd expect (as either alignment)

[Lizabeth]

 

 

Sooh still sounds super fake to me V.V

 

maybe it's a me problem IDFK

She actually started sounding better to me again...

 

Current vote?

 

I changed my mind ;)

 

I'll explain more later. Still catching up.

[BFG]

 

and while I appreciate what you're saying about not tin-foiling

 

You, Cory, Sooh, Liz (by reputation) are all extremely capable villagers and more than capable of generating content and I don't understand why it is so hard to do what you all do naturally, but I really wish someone would step up and give me a hand. You and Cory were both in a game where the town lost because once you two and Hallia were dead nobody did anything and I'm a 'little' surprised that you're both ok with the situation as is this time round when last time you were able to fight through

 

How am I OKAY with the situation?!? I pull my weight but I can't MAKE other people do it. I'm sick and tired of signing up to games where people sign up just not to freaking play. I AM TRYING. Just like I tried in Demon Cove and it got me absolutely no where. I'm not saying I'm giving up but I'm not going to make up reads when people aren't giving me content to work with. And aside from asking them REPEATEDLY to do so, I can't do much. Like what do you expect me to do?  I recognize that you've totally been putting in your share, but I find it kind of insulting that you're implying I'm not.

 

Apologies, not fair to include you in this list and this addresses my concerns above so ignore them as well if you read this in time

[csarmi]

Csarmi hasn't hit any of the town tells I have for him but it's been a very long time since we've played a game together so I dunno. His stubbornness on Sooh may be a good look, but I have no clue what his mafia game looks like.

 

He's still firmly null for me, although I appreciate that's not helpful at this point

I'm sorry dear, it's been a very long time since I've last played and I just don't remember this game. Also I've changed a lot so I'm afraid it's not going to be easy if you don't see yet.

[BFG]

Cory, Liz can you explain your read on Csarmi?

[csarmi]

anyway gn

[BFG]

 

Csarmi hasn't hit any of the town tells I have for him but it's been a very long time since we've played a game together so I dunno. His stubbornness on Sooh may be a good look, but I have no clue what his mafia game looks like.

 

He's still firmly null for me, although I appreciate that's not helpful at this point

I'm sorry dear, it's been a very long time since I've last played and I just don't remember this game. Also I've changed a lot so I'm afraid it's not going to be easy if you don't see yet.

 

Lol, this is sort of the opposite of one of them, I don't think that necessarily makes it scummy though

[Clovdyx]

Vote Count!

 

• Sooh - 1 - Lizabeth
  
• Lizabeth - 1 - Cory caboose
  

 

Day Two ends at 12:30 Eastern time on Tuesday, 11/1.

 

Happy God Tom Brady day, all.  

[Lizabeth]

 

Nyn, what are you thinking?

 

I don't even know anymore. You and Cory are off the table for me. Not gonna tinfoil there cause I'm gonna drive myself crazy and enough is enough. Like you said earlier (or I think it was you anyhow), Kat will only show tomorrow and I desperately need her to pitch in to be able to read her. She has less than 20 posts. Pral has like 10. They're not easy players to read as is and I just can't deal with that. I know they're typically low posters but come on.

 

Then you have salami who's like around but doesn't want to do anything. Yesterday he was yelling at me for having like 1.5 hours to catch up (by no fault but his own) and now that he has the time he's just twidling his thumbs. I don't even know where to start there and I definitely don't share the confidence Cory seems to have on that slot. I think Liz also mentioned liking salami. Maybe I'm just totally missing it. But like dude just sits there expecting people to spoonfeed him information that has been readily available, like he wants to transmit this clueless image. Come on, just reading the OP would have saved him a ton of time that he spent on wasting other people's time. I don't know how to process how he handled himself. And he seems unwilling to do anything that I can actually assess since according to him he can't even be bothered to catch up properly.

 

Then you have Sooh. I looked through her posts earlier. She's not an easy read for me, but I have correctly town read her in our last two games. She does seem less invested than I've come to expect from TownSooh but she seems to be going through something right now so I'm having a hard time balancing it our with her performance. And since half the game seems indifferent right now it's like everyone is sucking the WIM out of everyone and I feel it too. She's on the table for sure though, due to not really doing much towards game solving imo, but I'm just not super confident. She seems kinda mousy today though... I dunno.

 

Liz reads good to me. She's had less uumph maybe but I feel like compared to the others she's actually trying, asking questions, pushing and generally giving a sh*t. I don't think she's someone I'd consider for today. But I'd like her to give her thoughts when she shows, cause she just dropped a vote and took off. I'm also curious why she moved her vote from Darthe to Laine at EoD. It's something I noticed when I was looking over it earlier. @Liz ???

 

About Csarmi - his entry into the game bugged me at first, but then he seemed to be trying to balance out reading up on the game and dealing with stuff in real time. I liked that he seemed focused on trying to solve things at end of day.

 

I have no meta on him, only some reputation kind of things, so one thing I was tinfoiling over last night was whether his ability to jump in with two hours to deadline with a relative sense of calm and centredness is indicative of his usual town play or if he's one of those players who tends to be calm when they're scum and scattered when they're town. So I'm interested in your take on that.

 

As for moving my vote from Darthe to Alanna, it was because once he started responding to my questions, as much as I didn't like his answers, he started to sound more like pissy town rather than scum. And I wanted to keep the wagons even and Alanna was my next choice in terms of scumspects.

 

(Sorry Alanna)

[Lizabeth]

Demon cove feelz starting to resurface.... lol

What happened in Demon Cove?

[BFG]

Anyways, I really am sorry Nyn, and also to Liz, Cory, Sooh since you've all 'tried' I just don't understand why, if that's the case, the thread feels like this. But it's not any 'One's' fault and is one of those things.

 

Would still appreciate continued attempts to change it

[Cory Caboose]

Not starting/continuing a fight, but I was in the thread more than you were on D1, I was pushing/following leads earlier and longer than you were. When people asked me questions I gave them answers.

 

no you werent?