[Standard] Final Fantasy VII Mafia - Mafia Wins D4

[csarmi]

 

 

 

 

So you think I'm wolfy that I wasn't psychic re: Ironeyes

 

Cool deal

 

And I have pushed my villager reads with SIGNFICANT pushback, especially with Laine, so don't even start with me

nothing to do about not being psychic

just felt like wanting to keep him on the table

this isn't a strong read though

 

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anyway

tell me what you know about Katiora and Lizabeth. I don't think I've played with them.

 

But why 'doubt' the claim to keep him on the table and then NK him?

 

Good point, but we don't know who was killed by the wolves, right?

 

Why would mafia kill Alanna who was a wagon the day before over a claimed role they had no reason to disbelieve?

 

I don't know. But I don't think this is a good thing to discuss.

[Clovdyx]

Vote Count!

 

• Sooh - 1 - Lizabeth
• Lizabeth - 1 - Cory caboose

 

Day Two ends at 12:30 Eastern time on Tuesday, 11/1.

[Cory Caboose]

As for setup. I doubt there are 3 wolves. Being at MyLo D2 is not something that should happen.

 

Clov is a "13er should have 4 wolves" type so I'd be carefully bubby

[BFG]

 

As for setup. I doubt there are 3 wolves. Being at MyLo D2 is not something that should happen.

 

Clov is a "13er should have 4 wolves" type so I'd be carefully bubby

 

Eh? He likes the 13 player seer setup, and thinks that an all vanilla 2v9 is ok

 

But it was just a fleeting thought

[BFG]

[v]Nyn[/v]

What changes between here and your read on Nyn today?

[Cory Caboose]

Well than he's changed :D

[BFG]

 

Sooh still sounds super fake to me V.V

 

maybe it's a me problem IDFK

She actually started sounding better to me again...

 

Current vote?

[csarmi]

 

[v]Nyn[/v]

What changes between here and your read on Nyn today?

 

Read my unvote and circumstances. I realized that she definitely did believe what she said about Alanna. Also, she seemed genuinely pissed. Sounded like a pissed off villager to me.

[BFG]

oh ffs

 

[unvote]

Ok, I smiled

 

Cory can be town, but this is a tinfoil game, so I'm probably going to continue to prod

[BFG]

 

[v]Sooh[/v]

I guess I can see where this is coming from, since I was pushing Darthe and he ended up town. In my defense though, his D1 looked like nothing I would expect there at the end, and his white knighting Ironeyes before the claim just looked off to me.

 

I agree that Kat needs to be looked at more closely, but she's never around on the weekends. With Liz idk. She's such an unfamiliar player to me, and I don't know if her D1 was just her norm or whatever. 

 

 

 

 

Nyn - I feel like she's similar to the hydra game we just played together. She points out things and follows up on things that she points out, and she has that level of sass I expect from her. I feel very good about her rn.

 

BFG - I probably feel the most comfortable with her besides Nyn so far. I think she's inquisitive and asking questions around the board. 

 

Darthe - He seems fine this game so far. Sort of skirting the middle of the line a little. I think I'm leaning town, with a slight tinfoil that he might be similar to the VS game where he wasn't showing much interest. I just don't know if staying around and forcing other people to attempt to read him with little information and being the center of attention = not showing interest, so that's why I have him as town for now.

 

Cory - I know he's super busy these days, but I find it a bit odd how there hasn't been more critical questions. I know he sometimes takes a while to warm up, so he's not in my lynch pool today, though he's right about that whole big expectations thing. I just feel that even as a wolf he would try harder, if that makes sense? 

 

Liz - I have no experience with Liz. From memory during the beginning of the game I felt her questions were kind of reachy, but we do seem to have a very different approach to the game as a whole. I'm cautiously optimistic that her line of questioning will actually lead to good things for town and not just be a way to place doubt in people's heads about different slots. 

 

Alanna - I dislike intensely the pushes to lynch Csarmi. I would always wait for mod intervention on that slot if he hadn't showed up. I also had slight pings over the Alanna/Darthe interactions like I mentioned before. My confidence in reading Alanna has never been very high, but I still think she's being scummy this game. 

 

I don't have a clear memory on the rest, so I'll have to go back and read now.

 

Can you explain why you were reading Cory as light town at this point?

 

Well, I think Cory has done the same a lot of games recently, where he's sort of taking a back seat approach and letting people make their posts before he really gets into it. Also like I said I know he's busy with work and everything, so I was happy with his content so far.

 

How does the first bold make sense given that Liz was pushing Darthe all day?

 

And ok

[Sooh]

 

 

[v]Sooh[/v]

I guess I can see where this is coming from, since I was pushing Darthe and he ended up town. In my defense though, his D1 looked like nothing I would expect there at the end, and his white knighting Ironeyes before the claim just looked off to me.

 

I agree that Kat needs to be looked at more closely, but she's never around on the weekends. With Liz idk. She's such an unfamiliar player to me, and I don't know if her D1 was just her norm or whatever. 

 

 

 

 

 

Nyn - I feel like she's similar to the hydra game we just played together. She points out things and follows up on things that she points out, and she has that level of sass I expect from her. I feel very good about her rn.

 

BFG - I probably feel the most comfortable with her besides Nyn so far. I think she's inquisitive and asking questions around the board. 

 

Darthe - He seems fine this game so far. Sort of skirting the middle of the line a little. I think I'm leaning town, with a slight tinfoil that he might be similar to the VS game where he wasn't showing much interest. I just don't know if staying around and forcing other people to attempt to read him with little information and being the center of attention = not showing interest, so that's why I have him as town for now.

 

Cory - I know he's super busy these days, but I find it a bit odd how there hasn't been more critical questions. I know he sometimes takes a while to warm up, so he's not in my lynch pool today, though he's right about that whole big expectations thing. I just feel that even as a wolf he would try harder, if that makes sense? 

 

Liz - I have no experience with Liz. From memory during the beginning of the game I felt her questions were kind of reachy, but we do seem to have a very different approach to the game as a whole. I'm cautiously optimistic that her line of questioning will actually lead to good things for town and not just be a way to place doubt in people's heads about different slots. 

 

Alanna - I dislike intensely the pushes to lynch Csarmi. I would always wait for mod intervention on that slot if he hadn't showed up. I also had slight pings over the Alanna/Darthe interactions like I mentioned before. My confidence in reading Alanna has never been very high, but I still think she's being scummy this game. 

 

I don't have a clear memory on the rest, so I'll have to go back and read now.

 

Can you explain why you were reading Cory as light town at this point?

 

Well, I think Cory has done the same a lot of games recently, where he's sort of taking a back seat approach and letting people make their posts before he really gets into it. Also like I said I know he's busy with work and everything, so I was happy with his content so far.

 

How does the first bold make sense given that Liz was pushing Darthe all day?

 

And ok

 

I mean I can see why she would want to prod me today after I pushed so hard on Darthe yesterday. I didn't even think about her having done the same thing.

[BFG]

 

 

 

 

 

 

not in terms of your activity in terms of your "vibe"

 

indulge my hippie notions :P

It's hard to be happy, hearty and vibey when you spent most of the night not feeling worth a damn thing.

 

 

 

 

Sooh I'm sorry we're miscommunication

 

It's not that I expect happiness or heartiness or "good vibes" or w/e

 

I'm saying specifically your reads seem to be coming from a mechanical and reactionary place instead of you really gauging and considering people's behavior and I can't get past it re: my read of you

 

I'm sorry if things aren't going great and ILU but understand I have a job to do

 

I understand Cory <3

 

Squinting at this for reasons I can't explain

[BFG]

Cory you around?

[Nynaeve]

Oh, Alanna was killed.

 

This is still bugging me. The scene of Ironeyes and Alanna was on the same post.... and you didn't notice Alanna was killed?

[BFG]

Sooh, do you have anything?

[BFG]

Nyn, what are you thinking?

[BFG]

Sooh/Liz probably not teamed

[BFG]

^nothing to do with Liz's vote (although that helps)

[Sooh]

Sooh, do you have anything?

I've been working all night. Honestly I was going to go back looking at Liz after what you said to me, but I think it'll have to be tomorrow at this point, because it's already midnight.

[Cory Caboose]

Sooh/Liz probably not teamed

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why

[csarmi]

 

Oh, Alanna was killed.

 

This is still bugging me. The scene of Ironeyes and Alanna was on the same post.... and you didn't notice Alanna was killed?

 

I remembered that there were two kills. I remembered Ironeyes cause of the claim. I forgot Alanna was the second.

[BFG]

 

Sooh/Liz probably not teamed

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why

 

You quoted it, where Sooh is 'nudging' Nyn to mafia read Liz

[csarmi]

So I guess you can safely conclude that I didn't kill Alanna.

[Nynaeve]

Nyn, what are you thinking?

 

I don't even know anymore. You and Cory are off the table for me. Not gonna tinfoil there cause I'm gonna drive myself crazy and enough is enough. Like you said earlier (or I think it was you anyhow), Kat will only show tomorrow and I desperately need her to pitch in to be able to read her. She has less than 20 posts. Pral has like 10. They're not easy players to read as is and I just can't deal with that. I know they're typically low posters but come on.

 

Then you have salami who's like around but doesn't want to do anything. Yesterday he was yelling at me for having like 1.5 hours to catch up (by no fault but his own) and now that he has the time he's just twidling his thumbs. I don't even know where to start there and I definitely don't share the confidence Cory seems to have on that slot. I think Liz also mentioned liking salami. Maybe I'm just totally missing it. But like dude just sits there expecting people to spoonfeed him information that has been readily available, like he wants to transmit this clueless image. Come on, just reading the OP would have saved him a ton of time that he spent on wasting other people's time. I don't know how to process how he handled himself. And he seems unwilling to do anything that I can actually assess since according to him he can't even be bothered to catch up properly.

 

Then you have Sooh. I looked through her posts earlier. She's not an easy read for me, but I have correctly town read her in our last two games. She does seem less invested than I've come to expect from TownSooh but she seems to be going through something right now so I'm having a hard time balancing it our with her performance. And since half the game seems indifferent right now it's like everyone is sucking the WIM out of everyone and I feel it too. She's on the table for sure though, due to not really doing much towards game solving imo, but I'm just not super confident. She seems kinda mousy today though... I dunno.

 

Liz reads good to me. She's had less uumph maybe but I feel like compared to the others she's actually trying, asking questions, pushing and generally giving a sh*t. I don't think she's someone I'd consider for today. But I'd like her to give her thoughts when she shows, cause she just dropped a vote and took off. I'm also curious why she moved her vote from Darthe to Laine at EoD. It's something I noticed when I was looking over it earlier. @Liz ???

[Nynaeve]

 

Sooh, do you have anything?

I've been working all night. Honestly I was going to go back looking at Liz after what you said to me, but I think it'll have to be tomorrow at this point, because it's already midnight.

 

 

oh ok