[Basic] Pirates of the Caribbean (Curse of the Black Pearl) Game Thread - D2

[Darthe]

6-2 so we have 1 mislynch left for the whole gamexperience

 

I'm tempted to no lynch and see what the wolves do

I'm not opposed but if they're smart they no kill

[Darthe]

So for me the PoE Is laya or hellian today

[Darthe]

*leaves, not is

[monstrman]

Dyachei why do you say besie and Sooh can't be scum together?

 

Just curious rn

[dyachei]

Darthe, thoughts on tiink?

 

also which is laya?

[Wildfire Sedai]

I'm gonna do some ISO'S...

[dyachei]

Their interactions from my reading of d1/d2.

 

Also think that besie is pretty villagery now that I'm almost done reading.

[Hallia]

@mod can you update the op plz?

When I'm not at work I can

 

Probably 2 hrs or so

[dyachei]

I finally made it through everything. Some quotes

I think the game should focus on besie/sooh/believer/nolder for now

 

I like what pral has been saying, though kat has been conspicuously absent as his hydra partner.

 

Dice feels like he could have some deepwolf equity because he's played so many games before, but like darthe said that one post that he made that darthe pointed out was town dice to a T was the same reason I had townread dice so I feel like he's probably just a villager?

 

I've seen flashes of villageriness from tink, I'd like to see more in depth analysis more often, though.

 

Nego is trying and he said he'd do more today so maybe nego try isoing those people and let me know what reads you come up with and I'll do the same

Wildfire has been posting okay enough today to not get lynched I think, but I'm not 100% confident they are a villager.
 

Darthe seems okay unless he's playing really well

 

I really like this  - monstr is town

 

 

The buddying between Nego and Besie though jeezus. This isn't even all of it. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Okay, and here is his reason. It relates to my recent post about Zander’s activity. It’s still a bit odd to me that Zander’s absence is enough to get a vote when his clear frustration and complete AtE of Tiink is apparently not enough for a vote there. Monstrman/Tiink w/w?

 

Bottom p30 is a lot of support and helpfulness towards Monstrman from Darthe. Even though I agree with all that Darthe said there, it just makes me uncomfortable – to both players. Monstrman/Tiink/Darthe team? That seems too easy.

 

 

"monstrman is a wolf"

 

Besie would be losing village points fast but I think she's just demonstrating that she has no idea how to read me

 

"Lol no what? ok you're probably still a villager though"

 

 

Besie would be losing village points fast but I think she's just demonstrating that she has no idea how to read me

 

You're talking about that I called your outburst AtE? 

 

Are you aware of my current read of you?

 

 

"Are you aware of my current read of you?"

 

 

I think it takes a certain level of critical thinking that wolves have a hard time faking to look at an interaction between two players and make that connection between me and tink (wrong as it is)

So besie prolly a villager

 

Ah, you were talking about me wondering why you were voting Zander instead of Tiink. Thanks for reading my catchup posts? But I still don't understand why you didn't just vote Tiink. I'm still catching up so if you said something from p30 to explain why you chose Zander above Tiink, fine, but if not, please inform me?

 

 

 

Besie would be losing village points fast but I think she's just demonstrating that she has no idea how to read me

 
You're talking about that I called your outburst AtE? 
 
Are you aware of my current read of you?

Ill be honest I really don't care because if you're a wolf you'll never ever ever get me lynched and if you're a villager I'm confident I can change your mind

So yeah, don't care at all about your read of me right now.

 

 

No offence, but you can't say the bold without knowing how I'm reading you atm. So why did you say it? 

 

>.>

 

 

Again, no sense because you said "monstrman is on wolf teams" which means that you implied I was wolfy, you KNEW you implied I'm wolfy, and then you tried to turn it on me then

 

 

Yet nowhere in the post did you explicitly say monstrman is a wolf

I'm not having this argument it has nothing to do with alignments

 

you're the one continuing with it.

 

I didn't say you're a wolf, no. That's not my read of you. Which is why i found it odd when you said i'm reading you wrong. 

So i'm reading you wrong when I've been reading you town? Interesting. - was my thoughts.

 

 

"Wow I was reading you town the whole time. Interesting that you think that's wrong."

 

Besie has proven that her reads are fabricated. Lynch the crap out of her accordingly, and immediately.

 

 

actually this is not a bad find. besie dropping down on my list.
 

 

 

I'm tired so going to bed but i'm wtl Calder, Darthe, Nolder.

 

For now [v]Calder[/v].

 

I gave several reasons in the past posts.

 

Never lynching Nego.

Slight town Zander/Sooh/Believer/Pral

Slight scum Monstrman/Tiink/Dice

 

Of these the biggest change is Monstrman. Most reasons are given.

 

Either one of them is scum or both of them are imo.

 

These kind of posts after also just reek. 

 

so okay, why exactly was zander lynched?

 

catching up, btw. i'm really tired though so i'm heading to bed the minute i'm done.

 

 

You played less than zero part in preventing it and are acting like there's nothing to his lynch. You didn't even participate in the Calder train which ironically might have given you more credit than not even voting. There was literally 40 pages of people spewing at each other that you've glossed over. This is not the reaction I'm expecting from town. 

 

The Calder lynch looked like bullshit though. Given that I don't understand the logic behind half the posts people are making I guess there is some plausibility to scum reading him I suppose but I don’t think he really should be scum read this game after page 30-40. Literally the only reason I can think for him to have been shot last night was for the people on his train to gain town cred. Unless he dropped a doc hint earlier there is literally no other reason to kill him but I honestly haven’t ISO’d him and checked for one.

 

right now my vote going to calder.  there no real reason here except im just not voting zander

 

 

nol wont happen darthe

 

 

vote calder

 

 

Dice's vote on Calder is also BS.

 

 

I got Darthe, Monstr, Sooh, Nolder as town with Nego, Besie and Dice as scum.

 

[v]Nego[/v]

 

 

this reads poorly to me. Defense of sooh and I believe he flip flopped on his read of monstr. Slight scum read

 

Ok seriously people! Read Believer and please tell my why I shouldn't lynch him right now. His pushes on Tiinker have been nothing really, and that's about all he has done this game. In my experience he at least usually leaves a bit more of an imprint on the thread. 

 

Also when you have read and agree with me, please move your vote accordingly. Thanks.

 

and sooh defends him.

 

 

 

Ok seriously people! Read Believer and please tell my why I shouldn't lynch him right now. His pushes on Tiinker have been nothing really, and that's about all he has done this game. In my experience he at least usually leaves a bit more of an imprint on the thread. 
 
Also when you have read and agree with me, please move your vote accordingly. Thanks.

Are you reading me scum because I have done nothing, in your mind?

If you are reading me null, am I really the best lynch to you?

I don't like this post at all, very tempted to OMGUS.

 

You're attempting to lynch Tiinker over the same kind of idea. "I believe he doesn't believe what he's saying". I think Tiinker has had some good posts this game, especially since his initial train happened, and I don't like this push on him. 

 

Why would you say I'm reading you null? Does my vote suggest that you're null to me?

 

 

 

and again with the defense.

 

 

 

Someone give me a good reason to not lynch tiink?

[Nynaeve]

@mod can you update the op plz?

 

[Nolder]

I was roleblocked but it's pretty clear who Dice shot. Well done man.

So can we all agree that Sooh (and maybe Darthe?) were running interference for Tiinker?

Dice bought us some breathing room but we need to actually start lynching mafia.

 

[v]Tiinker[/v]

[Wildfire Sedai]

Okay, just finished ISO'ing pralaya.  I think he is wolf because:

 

 

I am good with a Believer/Besie trains today. Think both are wolves looking at the fact that both of them are voting Tinker.

 

 We know sooh was SCUM.

 

We also know that sooh and tiinker were buddy buddies:

 

 

I finally made it through everything. Some quotes

 

 

right now my vote going to calder.  there no real reason here except im just not voting zander

 

 

nol wont happen darthe

 

 

vote calder

 

 

Dice's vote on Calder is also BS.

 

 

I got Darthe, Monstr, Sooh, Nolder as town with Nego, Besie and Dice as scum.

 

[v]Nego[/v]

 

 

this reads poorly to me. Defense of sooh and I believe he flip flopped on his read of monstr. Slight scum read

 

Ok seriously people! Read Believer and please tell my why I shouldn't lynch him right now. His pushes on Tiinker have been nothing really, and that's about all he has done this game. In my experience he at least usually leaves a bit more of an imprint on the thread. 

 

Also when you have read and agree with me, please move your vote accordingly. Thanks.

 

and sooh defends him.

 

 

 

Ok seriously people! Read Believer and please tell my why I shouldn't lynch him right now. His pushes on Tiinker have been nothing really, and that's about all he has done this game. In my experience he at least usually leaves a bit more of an imprint on the thread. 
 
Also when you have read and agree with me, please move your vote accordingly. Thanks.

Are you reading me scum because I have done nothing, in your mind?

If you are reading me null, am I really the best lynch to you?

I don't like this post at all, very tempted to OMGUS.

 

You're attempting to lynch Tiinker over the same kind of idea. "I believe he doesn't believe what he's saying". I think Tiinker has had some good posts this game, especially since his initial train happened, and I don't like this push on him. 

 

Why would you say I'm reading you null? Does my vote suggest that you're null to me?

 

 

 

and again with the defense.

 

 

 

Someone give me a good reason to not lynch tiink?

 

So yeah the way I see it: 

 

1.  Sooh was scum.

2a. Sooh was defending Tiinker

2b. Tiinker was defending Sooh

2conclusion: Sooh and Tiinker are on the same team.

3a Pral wants to lynch besie/believer for voting Tiink/defending Tiink

3b Pral has sooh and tiink in top of his reads list

3conclusion: Pral is last mafia

 

[unvote] [v] tiinker [/v] People already voting Tiink, Pral next

[Wildfire Sedai]

I am good with a Believer/Besie trains today. Think both are wolves looking at the fact that both of them are voting Tinker.

 

Forgot to post this with last post...

[dyachei]

[v]tiinker[/v]

[Darthe]

Tink scum doesnt make much sense with sooh to me

[Darthe]

Also 3 tink votes in 4 posts.

 

Odd, to say the least.

[Darthe]

 

So yeah the way I see it:

 

1. Sooh was scum.

2a. Sooh was defending Tiinker

2b. Tiinker was defending Sooh

2conclusion: Sooh and Tiinker are on the same team.

3a Pral wants to lynch besie/believer for voting Tiink/defending Tiink

3b Pral has sooh and tiink in top of his reads list

3conclusion: Pral is last mafia

 

[unvote] [v] tiinker [/v] People already voting Tiink, Pral next

So heres the thing... Wolves work as a team, yes, but wolves should almost NEVER appear to work together on thread. Its a cardinal rule for them, because if they did work together like you're suggesting then lynching one would end the game for them.

 

Let's assume theyre smarter than that, or at least less bold in almost every scenario. What you're suggesting makes them teammates, by proxy, is what exactly leads me to the assumption that theise three cannot all be teammates.

[Nolder]

Okay, just finished ISO'ing pralaya.  I think he is wolf because:

 

 

I am good with a Believer/Besie trains today. Think both are wolves looking at the fact that both of them are voting Tinker.

 

 We know sooh was SCUM.

 

We also know that sooh and tiinker were buddy buddies:

 

 

I finally made it through everything. Some quotes

 

right now my vote going to calder.  there no real reason here except im just not voting zander

 

 

nol wont happen darthe

 

 

vote calder

 

 

Dice's vote on Calder is also BS.

 

 

I got Darthe, Monstr, Sooh, Nolder as town with Nego, Besie and Dice as scum.

 

[v]Nego[/v]

 

 

this reads poorly to me. Defense of sooh and I believe he flip flopped on his read of monstr. Slight scum read

 

Ok seriously people! Read Believer and please tell my why I shouldn't lynch him right now. His pushes on Tiinker have been nothing really, and that's about all he has done this game. In my experience he at least usually leaves a bit more of an imprint on the thread. 

 

Also when you have read and agree with me, please move your vote accordingly. Thanks.

 

and sooh defends him.

 

 

 

Ok seriously people! Read Believer and please tell my why I shouldn't lynch him right now. His pushes on Tiinker have been nothing really, and that's about all he has done this game. In my experience he at least usually leaves a bit more of an imprint on the thread. 

 

Also when you have read and agree with me, please move your vote accordingly. Thanks.

Are you reading me scum because I have done nothing, in your mind?

 

If you are reading me null, am I really the best lynch to you?

 

I don't like this post at all, very tempted to OMGUS.

 

You're attempting to lynch Tiinker over the same kind of idea. "I believe he doesn't believe what he's saying". I think Tiinker has had some good posts this game, especially since his initial train happened, and I don't like this push on him. 

 

Why would you say I'm reading you null? Does my vote suggest that you're null to me?

 

 

 

and again with the defense.

 

 

 

Someone give me a good reason to not lynch tiink?

 

So yeah the way I see it: 

 

1.  Sooh was scum.

2a. Sooh was defending Tiinker

2b. Tiinker was defending Sooh

2conclusion: Sooh and Tiinker are on the same team.

3a Pral wants to lynch besie/believer for voting Tiink/defending Tiink

3b Pral has sooh and tiink in top of his reads list

3conclusion: Pral is last mafia

 

[unvote] [v] tiinker [/v] People already voting Tiink, Pral next

I'm thinking Darthe over Pral.

From what I've seen others say he drove all the mislynches.

[Guest]

Go get em Town!

 

 

dies

 

Nice shot, Dice!

[Guest]

Morning everyone

 

I had Tiink and Wildfire as wtl D2. Barely anything has happened much since then. 

 

Anyone else I should reread?

 

Imo Darthe, NegoDya are town, as well as Nolder.

Slight town is Pral and Monstrman.

 

I'm slightly worried about Nolder's claim but I agree with Monstrman completely in that it's definitely WIFOM - and mostly because he didn't clear himself to me in much else than his claim, although there were some posts I regard as towny end D2.

[Guest]

 

 

Okay, just finished ISO'ing pralaya.  I think he is wolf because:

 

 

I am good with a Believer/Besie trains today. Think both are wolves looking at the fact that both of them are voting Tinker.

 

 We know sooh was SCUM.

 

We also know that sooh and tiinker were buddy buddies:

 

 

I finally made it through everything. Some quotes

 

right now my vote going to calder.  there no real reason here except im just not voting zander

 

 

nol wont happen darthe

 

 

vote calder

 

 

Dice's vote on Calder is also BS.

 

 

I got Darthe, Monstr, Sooh, Nolder as town with Nego, Besie and Dice as scum.

 

[v]Nego[/v]

 

 

this reads poorly to me. Defense of sooh and I believe he flip flopped on his read of monstr. Slight scum read

 

Ok seriously people! Read Believer and please tell my why I shouldn't lynch him right now. His pushes on Tiinker have been nothing really, and that's about all he has done this game. In my experience he at least usually leaves a bit more of an imprint on the thread. 

 

Also when you have read and agree with me, please move your vote accordingly. Thanks.

 

and sooh defends him.

 

 

 

Ok seriously people! Read Believer and please tell my why I shouldn't lynch him right now. His pushes on Tiinker have been nothing really, and that's about all he has done this game. In my experience he at least usually leaves a bit more of an imprint on the thread. 

 

Also when you have read and agree with me, please move your vote accordingly. Thanks.

Are you reading me scum because I have done nothing, in your mind?

 

If you are reading me null, am I really the best lynch to you?

 

I don't like this post at all, very tempted to OMGUS.

 

You're attempting to lynch Tiinker over the same kind of idea. "I believe he doesn't believe what he's saying". I think Tiinker has had some good posts this game, especially since his initial train happened, and I don't like this push on him. 

 

Why would you say I'm reading you null? Does my vote suggest that you're null to me?

 

 

 

and again with the defense.

 

 

 

Someone give me a good reason to not lynch tiink?

 

So yeah the way I see it: 

 

1.  Sooh was scum.

2a. Sooh was defending Tiinker

2b. Tiinker was defending Sooh

2conclusion: Sooh and Tiinker are on the same team.

3a Pral wants to lynch besie/believer for voting Tiink/defending Tiink

3b Pral has sooh and tiink in top of his reads list

3conclusion: Pral is last mafia

 

[unvote] [v] tiinker [/v] People already voting Tiink, Pral next

 

 

I'm thinking Darthe over Pral.

From what I've seen others say he drove all the mislynches.

 

 

You think he could be a deepwolf to all those of us that have had him solid town (which is most?)

You've thought he was scummy almost all game, right?

 

As I see it, he only drove the first mislynch.

The second one he said he'd prefer him over Tiink but he wasn't overly pushy. What surprised me in that mislynch was when Wildfire implied that his vote counted more than the others. Both Darthe and I indicated to her that in a lynch all votes are equal. I can find the quotes if need be. Anyway, this is one of the reasons why she's still in my wtl D3.

[Guest]

Tiink

 

NK me plz and save me from this place.

 
This post made me frown for a second, because if you think from a scum perspective then, unless Tiink has left clues to having a PR, or is scum himself, I saw no reason for the scum to possibly want to do this. I thought perhaps town!Tiink wasn't thinking that far but then he said this vvv
 

 

 

 

It's okay, Nolder. I understand what you mean entirely. Just because someone claims doesn't mean it's true and shouldn't be accepted that easily; and iyo it shouldn't make someone towny just for claiming.
 
Dice is asking you to specify your claim.
Dice, iirc he said he tracked Darthe and Darthe didn't go anywhere.

 
No dice is asking if he thinks CALLING his ACTION tonight is a good idea.  ie saying ITT BEFORE morning who he is going to track

 

I like it because if I track a mafia it stops them from doing anything and absolutely forces them to kill me if they haven't submitted their kill yet.

 

 
Or someone else on their team just submits. lol.

 

 
Which means that he weas obviously thinking from a scum perspective as well.
 
And he said it again later.
 

NK me fast plz scum team.

 
He said it a third time, but not about himself. He explained well what he meant.

 

inb4 NK'd.

 
 

 

 

inb4 NK'd.

why do you keep saying this?
 
it's starting to feel really weird

 

 
I was joking about Manbat preparing to go full super saiyan village and carry the team from tomorrow onwards only to be NK'd tonight.

 

 

 

 
Wildfire - here's the lynching thing I mentioned in my previous post

 

That's two townies you've mislynched Darthe

 

 

That's two townies you've mislynched Darthe

But I like to bus and the puzzle is starting to fit together.

 

 

 

That's two townies you've mislynched Darthe

Rofl you were on the Believer lynch.

 

 

Hey, I definitely take credit there. I was a big part of this lynch after changing my mind d2.

 

I think Darthe is town specifically for his push both times. He's legit working here. And I did not disagree with anything he said, just as I know many others did not.
 
He might have started the drive for this lynch but it's the rest of us that contributed to it.

 

 

 

That's two townies you've mislynched Darthe

Rofl you were on the Believer lynch.

 

 
Yes I was...but I wasn't actively trying to get others to vote him.  There were 3 trains out...Besie, Believer, and Tiink....Believer was the only one in my scum pile. so...should I lynch a townie or a scummy...now I gotta think....are you scum...should I have voted you???

 

 

 

Monstrman

 

 

You said you had Sooh as scum.

 

I told you all Sooh was mafia yay gjgjgjgjgjgj dice

 

 

Did you mean these posts, or earlier? I think I missed them.

 

Don't forget about sooh

 

Darthe what is your opinion on sooh now?

 

 

 

Tink scum doesnt make much sense with sooh to me

 

Could you give your reasoning for thinking this?

[Guest]

I was roleblocked but it's pretty clear who Dice shot. Well done man.

So can we all agree that Sooh (and maybe Darthe?) were running interference for Tiinker?

Dice bought us some breathing room but we need to actually start lynching mafia.

 

[v]Tiinker[/v]

 

*snip*

 

So yeah the way I see it: 

 

1.  Sooh was scum.

2a. Sooh was defending Tiinker

2b. Tiinker was defending Sooh

2conclusion: Sooh and Tiinker are on the same team.

3a Pral wants to lynch besie/believer for voting Tiink/defending Tiink

3b Pral has sooh and tiink in top of his reads list

3conclusion: Pral is last mafia

 

[unvote] [v] tiinker [/v] People already voting Tiink, Pral next

 

[v]tiinker[/v]

 

Also 3 tink votes in 4 posts.

 

Odd, to say the least.

 

 

[v]Tiinker[/v]

[Guest]

[unvote]

 

I'm WIFOM'ing bad. I'll be back in a few hours. I'd like to read Darthe's reasoning (two posts above) for thinking Tiink and Sooh aren't w/w. 

 

I'll most probably vote Tiink again when I come back, but don't want to leave it on -1.

[Guest]

Well no, I'm not WIFOM'ing. Wrong term. Can't think of the right one atm.