[Basic] Pirates of the Caribbean (Curse of the Black Pearl) Game Thread - D2

[Tiinker]

Where is tinker btw? Last I heard he said he is going to post more.

 

Just got home. Re-reading from page 50 onwards.

[Darthe]

 

 

2 pages of mathematical discussion in a mafia game? Well, now I have played it all. .

You never played with wombat and I did you?

Let's just say it never was quite like this.

Id be lying if I said that weren't disappointing. I still stand by the principle that permutations of the roster allow for less opportunity for two wolves to rand in consecutive spots, and much less so for three.

[dicetosser1]

darthe  can u stick ure mod hat on for a sec and lay something out for me??

 

 

what roles GENERALLY are found in a basic game?

[Tiinker]

Retyping the post that DM lost for me. 

 

 

This is the last vote count of D1.

 

D1 FINAL VOTE COUNT:

 

Zander (5): Calder, Sooh, Tiinker, Darthe, monstr

Calder (4): Besie, Zander, Pral, dice, Monstr

 

Nolder (1): Believer, Monstr, Dice, Darthe

 

dice (1): Nego

 

Not voting cause all the rum is gone (2): Hellian, Nolder

 

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

 

I never noticed that Nolder didn't vote at all.

 

 

Keeping these literally-in-the-last-minute posts in mind:

[v]zander[/v]

[V] zander[/v]

(was on Nolder before this, but not very long - just long enough to get the train to move from Calder)

i was wrong

 

unvote vote nolder

[v]calder[/v]

[v]zander[/v]

unvote vote calder

 

 

 

 

Added the purple last minute changes.

 

I think I can assume there's one scum in Sooh/Tiinker/Darthe/Monstr, and one in Pral/Dice/Monstr.

If we believe Nolder's claim, then there may also be one in Believer/Monstr/Dice/Darthe.

 

Not part of this vote-for scenario is HellianWildfire and Nolder, since they didn't vote. 

 

 

* I currently have Darthe as my strongest town lean. From mid D1 he's been acting towny to me, and the end D1 events set it in stone.

He refused to vote Calder. He changed his vote from Zander to Nolder in an attempt to get a Nolder train going, and thus to get the train off Calder. He was on Nolder for long enough to see whether the train took off and then went back to voting Zander, as that was the only other train that could save Calder. This is town indicative imo.

* Not too different from Darthe, Dice refused to vote Zander. Dice was willing to follow Darthe's vote on Nolder, as it would remove the train on Zander. He switched back to Calder to save Zander. Town indicative, imo.

* It is worth noting that I was on Calder for the same reason. I wasn't willing to vote Zander, and Calder was the next highest train. I had both Calder and Nolder as possible scum at that point in time. I also missed the seconds/short minutes in which the Nolder train could've developed so I never switched to Nolder.

* In comparison to the above three, I don't completely understand Monstrman's votes. He was wtl all three. He followed along to Nolder when that was a possibility but switched back before it could become a proper train. And it just went this or that or this or that further. It feels like he didn't mind which of either Zander of Calder died. 

 

 

When just looking at end D1, I'm going to [v]Monstrman[/v].

I still want to see what Wildfire comes up with and what some others say.

 

Monstrman, did you have both Zander and Calder as strong scum candidates?

 

 

 

Mod approved for edit.

How do you make this post after your spat with him yesterday?

[Tiinker]

BlomBesie and manbat are definitely not on the same team because in a game this empty they just wouldn’t put so much effort into distancing. 

 

The Zander train was legit imo despite what people are saying. I think that his game wasn’t too representative of his previous town games. He was playing more cautiously and I’d definitely say he was more careful about what he was saying towards other people when I’ve seen him go absolutely nuts when he thought he was in the right (see Overwatch, Tarmon Gaidan for a rep).

 

Like this post:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

apparently talking to a bunch of walls

dunno why zander hasn't been here all day

It's a bit weird, yeah. I feel like he had some odd, almost opportunistic posts yesterday, jumping at Besie and then Believer for little things that to me seemed insignificant.

You mean opportunistic posts like say shading someone and running away for dropping vote with no raisins?

[V] zander [/v]

So vote him.

I 100% believe this post and vote alone is 100% not alignment indicative for Darthe

Look at that

When he flips scum, some people are gonna look real bad for leaving this lynch at 4 for so long. Turning a blind eye at this point.

This is the sort of post I come bacj post town flip and point out was a great pushing attempt on a scummy townie, btw. Dont worry though, we arent wrong so youre prob gonna get town credit for it when he does flip w

Haha. Fair enough. Although I pretty much always invite suspicion. So cant say I wouldnt enjoy this coming back on me. It won't bc he is a wolf, but that does sadden me. Playing with Zander is always fun.

 

 

You guys wanna know what this is:

 

Predictive programming is a subtle form of psychological conditioning provided by the media (in this case the Scummteam) to acquaint the public with planned societal changes to be implemented by TPTB.

 

If and when these changes are put through, the public will already be familiarized with them and will accept them as 'natural progressions', as Alan Watt ^(*) calls it; thus lessening any possible public resistance and commotion.

 

Predictive programming therefore may be considered as a veiled form of preemptive mass manipulation or mind control, courtesy of our puppet masters.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm back, have read/skimmed most of the thread.

 

Are you guys still lynching Zander? Stop that.

 

+1

 

 

Yeah I have to say I'm feeling the same way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't want to vote you if there's a possibility you're town and there is
So that's not quite a 100% flawless philosophy

honestly i'm not going to be much use today so either lynch me or wait until d2. i'll try to step it up when there's less ppl for me to read but right now it's not possible.
 
i'm just going to catch up and then go to bed. it's already half past two am.

But I don't want to take it to that extreme I just want to talk to you and see what your new reads are

And then lynch you if I think you're a wolf

 

sorry, not going to happen. i have no new reads.

 

i think lynching zander is a bad idea. dice still hasn't said or done anything that would make me think he's town. i keep mixing calder/nolder together because of their names but both seem scummy, the one with the futurama avatar even more so i wouldn't mind lynching there.

 

besie, believer, and you are my best picks for town. sooh is close but i'm not really feeling her. tiink i believe is townish enough.

 

[Tiinker]

The buddying between Nego and Besie though jeezus. This isn't even all of it. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Okay, and here is his reason. It relates to my recent post about Zander’s activity. It’s still a bit odd to me that Zander’s absence is enough to get a vote when his clear frustration and complete AtE of Tiink is apparently not enough for a vote there. Monstrman/Tiink w/w?

 

Bottom p30 is a lot of support and helpfulness towards Monstrman from Darthe. Even though I agree with all that Darthe said there, it just makes me uncomfortable – to both players. Monstrman/Tiink/Darthe team? That seems too easy.

 

 

"monstrman is a wolf"

 

Besie would be losing village points fast but I think she's just demonstrating that she has no idea how to read me

 

"Lol no what? ok you're probably still a villager though"

 

 

Besie would be losing village points fast but I think she's just demonstrating that she has no idea how to read me

 

You're talking about that I called your outburst AtE? 

 

Are you aware of my current read of you?

 

 

"Are you aware of my current read of you?"

 

 

I think it takes a certain level of critical thinking that wolves have a hard time faking to look at an interaction between two players and make that connection between me and tink (wrong as it is)

So besie prolly a villager

 

Ah, you were talking about me wondering why you were voting Zander instead of Tiink. Thanks for reading my catchup posts? But I still don't understand why you didn't just vote Tiink. I'm still catching up so if you said something from p30 to explain why you chose Zander above Tiink, fine, but if not, please inform me?

 

 

 

Besie would be losing village points fast but I think she's just demonstrating that she has no idea how to read me

 
You're talking about that I called your outburst AtE? 
 
Are you aware of my current read of you?

Ill be honest I really don't care because if you're a wolf you'll never ever ever get me lynched and if you're a villager I'm confident I can change your mind

So yeah, don't care at all about your read of me right now.

 

 

No offence, but you can't say the bold without knowing how I'm reading you atm. So why did you say it? 

 

>.>

 

 

Again, no sense because you said "monstrman is on wolf teams" which means that you implied I was wolfy, you KNEW you implied I'm wolfy, and then you tried to turn it on me then

 

 

Yet nowhere in the post did you explicitly say monstrman is a wolf

I'm not having this argument it has nothing to do with alignments

 

you're the one continuing with it.

 

I didn't say you're a wolf, no. That's not my read of you. Which is why i found it odd when you said i'm reading you wrong. 

So i'm reading you wrong when I've been reading you town? Interesting. - was my thoughts.

 

 

"Wow I was reading you town the whole time. Interesting that you think that's wrong."

 

Besie has proven that her reads are fabricated. Lynch the crap out of her accordingly, and immediately.

 

 

actually this is not a bad find. besie dropping down on my list.
 

 

 

I'm tired so going to bed but i'm wtl Calder, Darthe, Nolder.

 

For now [v]Calder[/v].

 

I gave several reasons in the past posts.

 

Never lynching Nego.

Slight town Zander/Sooh/Believer/Pral

Slight scum Monstrman/Tiink/Dice

 

Of these the biggest change is Monstrman. Most reasons are given.

 

Either one of them is scum or both of them are imo.

 

These kind of posts after also just reek. 

 

so okay, why exactly was zander lynched?

 

catching up, btw. i'm really tired though so i'm heading to bed the minute i'm done.

 

 

You played less than zero part in preventing it and are acting like there's nothing to his lynch. You didn't even participate in the Calder train which ironically might have given you more credit than not even voting. There was literally 40 pages of people spewing at each other that you've glossed over. This is not the reaction I'm expecting from town. 

 

The Calder lynch looked like bullshit though. Given that I don't understand the logic behind half the posts people are making I guess there is some plausibility to scum reading him I suppose but I don’t think he really should be scum read this game after page 30-40. Literally the only reason I can think for him to have been shot last night was for the people on his train to gain town cred. Unless he dropped a doc hint earlier there is literally no other reason to kill him but I honestly haven’t ISO’d him and checked for one.

 

right now my vote going to calder.  there no real reason here except im just not voting zander

 

 

nol wont happen darthe

 

 

vote calder

 

 

Dice's vote on Calder is also BS.

 

 

I got Darthe, Monstr, Sooh, Nolder as town with Nego, Besie and Dice as scum.

 

[v]Nego[/v]

[Tiinker]

I gotta say I agree with like none of manbat's posts. I'm just gonna leave it at the fact that we play the game very differently. Gotta consider Believer, Pral and WiFi later.

[Tiinker]

Woops the quotes split up wrongly. The two Nego quotes in #1655 go in #1656

[Nynaeve]

[Darthe]

darthe can u stick ure mod hat on for a sec and lay something out for me??

 

 

what roles GENERALLY are found in a basic game?

Cop can cc tracker unless we also have a vig which means wolves will have a gf and an rb

[Darthe]

So then why wouldnt you vote besie who has some traction tink?

[Tiinker]

So then why wouldnt you vote besie who has some traction tink?

 

Competing trains and I think Nego seems to have flown under the radar the whole game despite making really scummy posts. 

[Tiinker]

Thought Besie still had one vote but turns out she has no votes.

[monstrman]

I can get behind Nego if he sucks wednesday

[Wildfire Sedai]

These are my last catch up posts...then I will make a reads list....based on my catch ups and what I can remember from reading the thread and ISO'ing people

 

Z still not remotely off your wolf game, just trying harder at it. posts like the one above where you say wolves realized pushing you wouldn't hook as planned really affirm it.

Basically you're saying those pushing you are wolves and that you're not easy to lynch so it shouldn't be tried. That's some heavy rhetoric bs, and beyond that the way you've wreaked everyone on your train says it. Ssying I'm lynching you because of another game, for instance, instead of actually refuting real reasons for this wagon.


Z is a wolf, I won't vote another player till he is dead.

 

Pretty adamant statement.  Not sure if I agree with it.  Wish I had quoted the one above as well...

 

 

 

 

Unsure list:

 

Tiinker has been looking better, but only in short spurts at a time. I want more from him going forward, because currently it feels like he's doing "just enough" to get by in the game. 

 

This is true and I'll admit it but it's only because I've been really between things at the moment. I won't screw around and I'm dedicated to hunting with you guys. 

 

 

 

I'm going to agree that the past 5-10 pages have been very wonky and I think Zander is the right target. I don't think he looks good at all here and he's even posting in a different format. The things he says here actually have some obvious general progression while he has absolutely no issue saying whatever sporadic thought he has in the town games I've played with him. Going another way seems like a clusterbomb for trying to establish reads on people after 50 pages.

 

 

 

You see now the bold is something I dont really have a big problem with Town!Sooh sussing me for.

 

My issue with it now is that she was pushing at me for stuff that shes saying is different or weird for Town!Zander when its 100% not first.

 

Its like she was throwing stuff out there to see if she could get something to stick.

 

Tinks been getting sussed and Sooh is currently voting him.  Then he makes a pretty villagery reads list post and some people who were sussing him kinda backed off and after this happens Sooh lays out kinda like to justify all the reasons she had for sussing him before saying the post was kinda villagery but shed watch him.

 

Then theres me who hadnt been around much who shed also thrown shade type posts out there earlier and then after others start sussing and voting me she gives a basic but kinda generic reason to jump on and vote me.

 

These last 2 things come across to me like Sooh is overly aware and concerned about how shes perceived by everyone when shes sussing and voting her suspects.

 

Ill have to go back and see if her Tink suss and vote came after someone else had voiced it.

 

 

 

Funnily enough, I don't think a town zander feels the need to clarify his thoughts here.

 

Funnily enough you ignored my question asking you to explain your vote on me.

 

Wanna do that now please?

 

 

Mate it's literally in the post you quoted. lol.

 

 

Could tiink be scum trying to set up the zander lynch or/town just noticing a difference in meta and questioning it?

 

 

 

 

Z still not remotely off your wolf game, just trying harder at it. posts like the one above where you say wolves realized pushing you wouldn't hook as planned really affirm it.

Basically you're saying those pushing you are wolves and that you're not easy to lynch so it shouldn't be tried. That's some heavy rhetoric bs, and beyond that the way you've wreaked everyone on your train says it. Ssying I'm lynching you because of another game, for instance, instead of actually refuting real reasons for this wagon.


Z is a wolf, I won't vote another player till he is dead.

NAME JUST 1 1 1 1 1 THING IVE YET TO REFUTE?

I've got two for you. You aren't refuting why you only attack players who are against you and you haven't refuted why you didnt begin your omgus behaviors until I pointed out that you were missing it this game.

Dont be mad that you had an off start man, happens to all of us. Problem is you had one as a wolf.

 

 

I asked you to show me where you did that and you didnt.  Where did you say I was gonna start OMGUSing?

 

Also as I said and showed with catch up, I was like 15 pages after being out of it for like 15 or so while playing in another game (which you KNOW is 100% true)

 

My thread awareness was not near where it usually is.

 

I got caught him and see what was going on and then went to work.

 

I also I thought part of the suss on me was my suss on Believer and Besie who werent attacking me as well so again people sussing me are the only people im sussing.

 

In the game you ML'd me in, you and Lainey were??? (Town)

 

I was??? (Town)

 

Who were in my top 3 PoV? (Darthe, Lainey)

 

So no youre incorrect?

 

What else you gonna try and go with next?

 

 

Here  hindsight is 20/20 as zander shows his towniness by sticking up to darthe.  

 

 

Im sticking with those. Your "answers" suck. They reference a game I neither remember nor will I read, and they duck responsibility in favor of blather.

Besides, players like you and I have played well over a hundred games. Undoubtedly if you go back far enough you can find anything to favor any point you want to make about me for either alignment, and I know the same can be said of you. So I dont care what you did elsewhere, I care what you do here.

 

I dont have anywheres near 100 games....maybe 40-50 tops.

 

Im a Meta player I use Meta.

 

Youre saying over and over this is not town zander this is not town zander....so youre obv basing that off of Meta.

 

But you only wanna use it when you need to try to make me look scummy but not use it when it refutes everything youre saying about me.

 

Makes sense.

 

Zander (4): Calder, Darthe, Sooh, Tiinker
Calder (3): Besie, Zander, Pral


Also, in terms of towniness one of these trains is shady af

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Unsure list:

Tiinker has been looking better, but only in short spurts at a time. I want more from him going forward, because currently it feels like he's doing "just enough" to get by in the game.

This is true and I'll admit it but it's only because I've been really between things at the moment. I won't screw around and I'm dedicated to hunting with you guys.

I'm going to agree that the past 5-10 pages have been very wonky and I think Zander is the right target. I don't think he looks good at all here and he's even posting in a different format. The things he says here actually have some obvious general progression while he has absolutely no issue saying whatever sporadic thought he has in the town games I've played with him. Going another way seems like a clusterbomb for trying to establish reads on people after 50 pages.
 

You see now the bold is something I dont really have a big problem with Town!Sooh sussing me for.

My issue with it now is that she was pushing at me for stuff that shes saying is different or weird for Town!Zander when its 100% not first.

Its like she was throwing stuff out there to see if she could get something to stick.

Tinks been getting sussed and Sooh is currently voting him. Then he makes a pretty villagery reads list post and some people who were sussing him kinda backed off and after this happens Sooh lays out kinda like to justify all the reasons she had for sussing him before saying the post was kinda villagery but shed watch him.

Then theres me who hadnt been around much who shed also thrown shade type posts out there earlier and then after others start sussing and voting me she gives a basic but kinda generic reason to jump on and vote me.

These last 2 things come across to me like Sooh is overly aware and concerned about how shes perceived by everyone when shes sussing and voting her suspects.

Ill have to go back and see if her Tink suss and vote came after someone else had voiced it.
 

Funnily enough, I don't think a town zander feels the need to clarify his thoughts here.

Funnily enough you ignored my question asking you to explain your vote on me.

Wanna do that now please?

Mate it's literally in the post you quoted. lol.

Ya but that post is AFTER you voted me. lol
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I wanna point out that this is the sort of pedantry and technicality that wolves thrive on and town sheep eat up.

 

 

 

It's the minor details that make the case.  If a person has blonde or black hair, that's a minor detail. If that person is accused of being a SK  then that minor detail could seal or/break open the case. jmo

 

"Fearmongering" to point out that you're trying to invalidate points against.you on technicalities?

Youve got no weapons, so thats all you seem to be able and work with, but its easy to pick. Look at your post refuting me where you go out of your way to correct me on how many games youve been on and the nsture of meta.

You dont have a counterpoint, so instead you attempt to reflect and dissiminate. Ive got you dead to rights here Z.

 

But do you really.  Even though zander was under posting, I didn't realize he was in another game until I caught up to his catch up.  You would have known this in RT cause you were in BOTH games.  After he started his catchup AND  before I came to the flip(during the N1 catch up), I realized zander was town.

 

 

 

Zander (4): Calder, Darthe, Sooh, Tiinker
Calder (3): Besie, Zander, Pral


Also, in terms of towniness one of these trains is shady af

Why don't you explicitly say what you want to?

It's clearly a wolfy motive. How do some of you function?

 

 

So here darthe is saying that one of the trains is shady.  Pralaya is then asking him to explain further.  And I could be misunderstanding him (AND I USUALLY DO) but I THINK what he's saying here is that he has a wolfy motive for not being clearer.  The "How do some of you function?" question I do not get.

 

 

 

"Fearmongering" to point out that you're trying to invalidate points against.you on technicalities?

Youve got no weapons, so thats all you seem to be able and work with, but its easy to pick. Look at your post refuting me where you go out of your way to correct me on how many games youve been on and the nsture of meta.

You dont have a counterpoint, so instead you attempt to reflect and dissiminate. Ive got you dead to rights here Z.

 

How confident do you feel about the Bold Derf?

 

Also lol at avoiding actually addressing my concerns with rhetoric tho.

 

Youre either just Scum or petty either way lolyou.

 

 

I know darthe said I would have him as scummy by the end of my catch up and he's right so far....sorry darthe but there are a lot more posts to go through that might change my mind.

 

I feel like you're stepping over the line, Zander. No need to swear or freak out this much. If there was more time it would have made me relook at you. As is I'm just going to not listen to you for the last 5 minutes of today because wow.

 

This is an odd post....As I read over zanders EoD....I did not see him swearing or freaking out beyond what is normal for a deer in the headlights.  Brought Besie down a few pegs imo.

[Wildfire Sedai]

[v]zander[/v]

 

 

[V] zander [/v]

 

 

[v]zander[/v]

 

 

 

[v]calder[/v]

Wolfy snipe, this was garbage time from you to just come in and ruin 2 good cfds in a row

 

 

 

 

[v]zander[/v]

Jesus dude wtf? Idc how that flip goes this was awful of you, you basically solo made eod random.

 

 

I probably shoulda quoted every post from EoD but thought it would be too long and I wanted to zone in on manbat and darthe's convo as that seems to be point of conflict. here we have manbat flipping to three different people IN ONE MINUTE. So I am going to @SS U ME that manbat made the votes PREMEDITATIVELY AND then just posted one after the other

 

...now I don't care how fast you are typing, the refresh time for the page is such that each post had to be made almost simultaneously.  

Take these three posts that I am going to post....this will be my middle post.  I am typing them up and sending them at the same time to keep them grouped together for easier reading.  Check the time stamps and see how fast it happens...I have them in 3 different tabs and I have to let each one refresh before I can post the other or so I think....

 

sorry zander

 

you're not scum but you're dead

 

Here manbat admits that zanders not scum.  How does he know this for a fact??? cause the way he says it makes it sound that way, and it was true??  So he purposefully admits to ML a townie.  not good.

 

 

D1 FINAL VOTE COUNT:

 

Zander (5): Calder, Sooh, Tiinker, Darthe, monstr

Calder (4): Besie, Zander, Pral, dice

Nolder (1): Believer

dice (1): Nego

 

Not voting cause all the rum is gone (2): Hellian, Nolder

 

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

 

 

Deadline:

 

 

I'm gonna say I think there was 2 wolves on zander and 1 on calder or not voting (AND no its NOT me, I AM TOWN).  I am not sure of Nolder.  I know he claimed tracker.  however, this is a basic set up.  There could be no tracker and he said tracker not cop.  Most basic set ups would just have a cop not a tracker...I know they are basically the same thing but I think there are differences.  Yes I just went to mafia wiki and trackers find out if someone visited someone else and that's it.  cops get alignment indications.  I would think that more than likely there would be a cop in a basic game.  I have seen fake claims before.

 

zander isn't scum darthe

 

I literally let you get into my head because you were YELLING AT ME THE WHOLE EOD

 

Actually manbat he wasn't yelling at you much the end of day, just when you voted zander cause darthe thought you put it to a random lynch.  Though that could be just distancing...

 

 

Calder, do you think I'm scummier for my EoD or do you still read me as a villager?

Villager. It was one of those things that looks really suspect, but when you realize a scum player doesnt have the actual incentive than I stop worrying.

 

If the lynch was going to be me or Zander at EOD than it was villager in the end either way. Scum would let it resolve without theatrics.

 

 

To bad calders dead...I would ask him to re analyze this quote.

 

 

[v]calder[/v]

 

let's see who does something now

 

dunno if ties rand but if they do gl gl us

 

 

or maybe

 

[v]nolder[/v]

 

 

no one wants calder dead over zander

 

[v]calder[/v]

 

 

[v]nolder[/v]

 

 

[v]zander[/v]

 

 

[v]calder[/v]

 

 

[v]zander[/v]

This one is hilarious and happened within minutes of each other.

I feel this is more of a case of townie confusion because if manbat was scum with calder, he wouldn't have tried to vote calder so many times and then backtrack immediately. That would be just a bad scum play.

 

On the other hand if calder was town, then manbat could have just laid low without voting anybody and gotten a town lynch without any attention.

 

IN either case of calder being scum ro not, it doesn't look like manbat could be scum in this situation at all. Just a townie messing it up !

 

 

I am not so sure about that....seems premeditated....

 

 

right now my vote going to calder.  there no real reason here except im just not voting zander

 

 

nol wont happen darthe

 

 

vote calder

 

 

i was wrong

 

unvote vote nolder

 

 

unvote vote calder

Same with dice. He votes calder, then tries to push nolder seeing the the votes and then back to calder.

 

I don't see dice being scum here with similar reasons as above. Unless it is a major case of busing, which was totally unnecessary at this point.

 

Irrespective of calder's alignment, this looks good for dice

 

 

I am not sure how this looks good for dice....of course I do the same thing sometimes so who am I to say...

 

This is 3/3 in recent games where Darthe has influenced a lynch with last minute shenanigans.

 

In one he was a wolf. In the second he was a town who voted a town for God knows what reason.

 

Ugh.

 

This totally.....Darthe is in his own little world...He plays the game HIS WAY OR THE HIGHWAY.....imo you darthe  

[Wildfire Sedai]

 

Hmm....

 

Calder/Darthe scum?

  

On the other hand, I don't like Darthe at all in that progression. He was literally against a Calder lynch and the entire moment he was trying to shift focus out of it.   

[v] nolder [/v] Only other person I feel very comfortable is a wolf

  He voted Nolder when he saw manbat voting him and pushed to cfd him.   

 

right now my vote going to calder. there no real reason here except im just not voting zandernol wont happen darthe vote calder

  Nol is literally the lynch if you vote him. This is ungodly wolfy

 

 

no one wants calder dead over zander [v]calder[/v]

 I will literally lose my shiznit

 

Oh no, he might actually have a life, we should lynch first and find out later with much better candidates just lying around. Btw im totally not a wolf.

When the focus shifted back to Calder, he tried hard to prevent the votes on him. His responses to Calder votes looked quite opportunistic.Eventually he votes Zander. Out the three, Darthe looks bad to me and I wouldn't be surprised if calder/darthe are w/w here.

Watch out for scum trying to set the stage for more mislynches.

 

 

Wish I could talk to calder....ugh...obviously he is talking about darthe and manbat here...darthe keeps repeating he's not a wolf....I don't know if he does this in his wolf games but I do know he did it in the town game we just played....maybe town????

 

Wolf me doesn't waste that chance d1, I bus like a mofo.

 

Yes, He does!

 

I don't think darthe is a wolf tbh

 

I am not sure I trust this....manbat could be deliberately throwing shade here trying to make darthe look scummy (cause manbat knows he looks scummy as all hell, imo),  or could be legitimate read...IDK

[dicetosser1]

 

darthe can u stick ure mod hat on for a sec and lay something out for me??

 

 

what roles GENERALLY are found in a basic game?

Cop can cc tracker unless we also have a vig which means wolves will have a gf and an rb

 

 

 

does this mean that you only find tracker if there is no cop? can they both exist together?

[Wildfire Sedai]

@ Dice: you are reading my mind. I would like the answers to these questions as well. vvvvvvv

 

 

 

darthe can u stick ure mod hat on for a sec and lay something out for me??


what roles GENERALLY are found in a basic game?

Cop can cc tracker unless we also have a vig which means wolves will have a gf and an rb

 

 

 

does this mean that you only find tracker if there is no cop? can they both exist together?

 

[Darthe]

 

So then why wouldnt you vote besie who has some traction tink?

Competing trains and I think Nego seems to have flown under the radar the whole game despite making really scummy posts.

I am very against a nego lynch, he really does this sort of "I'm above this, how did you not see z was town" thing as town but not as wolf imo

[monstrman]

I hate this entire game

 

We're never going to get anything done because the thread will argue amongst itself forever

 

At this point I can't tell if it's wolves trying to derail the thread or every villager is just lost

[monstrman]

[V]besie [/v]

[Darthe]

Lol wifi

 

Btw your reasoning is too easy to follow, weirds me out that you may be a wolf

[monstrman]

Wildfire I'm not even going to address my votes having been "premeditated" because that makes negative sense

[Darthe]

I like this discourse mb, means no stone is being left unturned