[Basic] Pirates of the Caribbean (Curse of the Black Pearl) Game Thread - D2

[dicetosser1]

and also those votes originally piled up on her too quick. if mafia there would have been more resistance

[Nolder]

i think shes town nol.

 

she seems frustrated. shes asking questions.

My view of her has improved over time but what do you think all that was towards the beginning? 

When the votes were coming on she seemed very focused on the votes and not with catching mafia.

I usually see that as a sign of someone being scummy but I do know some people can just get frustrated under pressure.

[dicetosser1]

shes not a very experienced player and has mostly rolled mafia when she has played.  i think its natural for her to focus on defence because

 

a) she was getting attacked

 

and

 

b) as mafia thats what you often do.   there are players who do it differently  but besie hasnt got the experience for that

[Nolder]

I gotta go I'll be back later.

[Guest]

Last one. I'll read up from p45 tomorrow. Too tired.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know of exactly two people that will try to use that to lynch me and as a preemptive measure: "you are not good at this game."
K.

Brah, my job aint to maintain your wim or to champ you. Thats a risk for me, cause idk your alignment and everything is treated as gameplay whether it really is or not.

Hold your ground and fill the slot you were dealt, thats your job. Dont bring all this non game related nonsense in here, take it to a mod pm or save it til post game.

 

 

I was not referring to you

 

I was referring to zander and pral as the most likely candidates (because they are)

 

 

Excuse me man, youre trying to tell people I would try and tell YOU you werent good at his game???

 

Thats straight up BS Monstr.

 

And unless im missing something its also a straight up lie.

 

 

thought the same first time I read it but was interested in z-der’s response

 

 

 

Thread is dead. Throw Zander off the plank.

Again the suss without reasoning.

I quoted your vote on me last night.

I want you to quote me the raisins you voted for me at the time.

Complaining that you're getting voted isn't much of a defense, you know this.

 

 

asking for reasons isn’t defence. scummy ito darthe

 

 

You guys can hunt for anyone you want (as long as its Zander).

 

 

"Welcome to the Zander zone."
- Vin Diesel

 

Why is no one asking Calder why hes voting for me???

 

 

Probably because he’s been saying you’re scum since super early? Here’s one post. Surely you saw that.

 

Besie would be losing village points fast but I think she's just demonstrating that she has no idea how to read me

 

Still think this post is scummy. Not because of the first part, but of the second. Sounds like a guilty conscience imo.

His further (through most of the last part of p43) posts all sound like him trying to shrug it off at the same time. Maybe this seems like nothing to most but it still feels odd to me.

 

You heavily implied it, which is why I said "I think besie doesn't know how to read me" but you never said what you specifically thought about my alignment. You just threw me in a bunch of scum teams

 

Yep, and I still have notes of it. I like looking at interactions and making notes of them. When we have a flip its noteworthy for me to go back to where I had made the connection and see if my thoughts have changed, or how it affects the other people. I also didn’t just add you to scum teams. I added you to anyone you were talking. I have many people who I have simply added notes like “not w/w” to. *shrug* It’s a way of thinking. More of the future after flips than now. I don’t have metas on many people and generally go by what is said in the thread.

 

 

 

I believe he's saying "a wolf flip of zander clears Tiink because of zander's defense of tiink"

Yes. No manbat in my take there. I dont see a reason why scum Zander advocates for scum Tiink (he was not in trouble). More likely scum Zander hoping to look good if a mislynch of Tiink occurred.

 

 

Okay, thank you.

 

I think I automatically thought manbat should be in there because I was talking about/with/to him just before this post. Miscommunication on my part, I apologise. 

 

Your reasoning makes sense. How do your thoughts change if Zander is the mislynch?

 

 

Have you answered this?

 

 

 

Btw are y'all gonna actually push your suspects? Do you have suspects?

Scum are happy to sit back today. Wait for us to waffle onto a doable, but inevitably incorrect lynch.

 

 

 

 

 

Btw are y'all gonna actually push your suspects? Do you have suspects?

Scum are happy to sit back today. Wait for us to waffle onto a doable, but inevitably incorrect lynch.

And by "us" I meant the town players. By "scum" I meant my cohesive crime syndicate. Key word being "my." I am its leader. A great one, on the local scene anyway. But, I have national, no...strike that; international ambitions.

The kind of ambitions that draws attention. Lots of eyes on me. I am looking to impress.

 

 

FYI- Calder is currently voting me and pushing for my lynch.

 

This seems pretty legit

 

 

i said about the same thing earlier - in more understandable words

 

 

I just had a thought.

 

Zander loves being town and his WIM is always high when he is. This is universally known, right?

So even if we know that he's been in another game, and focusing his attention there, wouldn't he have given just as much attention here - had he been town?

Surely he would have wanted to help us find the scum that he loves lynching so much?

 

Thoughts? Z?

 

It was DL yesterday in a game Ive been heavily invested in for over a week in RL.

 

When I started catching up today I was still the 4th or 4th highest poster and like only like 30 posts from being the Top.

 

I stated I was in 2 games in the sign ups.

 

I can see getting a little suss for it because Im normally the Top Poster but I still cant see why Im being wrung up for it this early in the game at all

 

 

 

See here.

 

 

 

On another note, quite a few people keep adding me to their scum teams right after I disagree with them. Maybe try reading and seeing from my perspective before thinking “I am right, you are wrong, hah.”

[Guest]

 

 

 

I cant imagine a world where anyone except Zander or Nolder gets lynched today.

I barely have anything on Nolder but his pop-ins are shady.

 

Zander is not on my wtl today.

Nolder's pop-in analysis post was the fakest looking catch up assessment of a game I have ever seen.

 

I think it's funny I wasn't on your radar until I spoke out against you.

 

Worried?

 

 

This

[Guest]

*snip*

 

 

 

I believe he's saying "a wolf flip of zander clears Tiink because of zander's defense of tiink"

Yes. No manbat in my take there. I dont see a reason why scum Zander advocates for scum Tiink (he was not in trouble). More likely scum Zander hoping to look good if a mislynch of Tiink occurred.

 

 

Okay, thank you.

 

I think I automatically thought manbat should be in there because I was talking about/with/to him just before this post. Miscommunication on my part, I apologise. 

 

Your reasoning makes sense. How do your thoughts change if Zander is the mislynch?

 

 

TMI???

 

 

No. i used the same word he used. see bold red.

 

Are you actually reading the posts?

[Zander?]

I think Sooh is the wolfiest out of darthe/calder/Sooh if zander is a villager

 

Calder agreed with sooh's suspicion of zander but first Sooh said "I feel worse about zander and better about believer" and then later when it was apparent that zander was a big wagon in the thread she voted him in a way that sort of felt to me like "enough time has passed that I can vote zander without fear of backlash now"

 

Don't we have someone named Hellion who's supposed to be playing? Did I miss something?

 

I hate trying to read Sooh

 

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[monstrman]

Okay besie my confusion is how can you so indignantly claim you are town reading me if you consistently bring up points as to why you think I'm scummy, then question me on saying "you don't know how to read me" when I'm saying it in response to you saying that I am scum which is exactly what is happening

 

I fail to see how that implies a guilty conscience

[monstrman]

Like, you put me in a catch 22 then said "aha I caught you in this catch 22!"

[monstrman]

"You're scummy"

 

"You don't know how to read me, but you're probably still a villager"

 

"How can you say I don't know how to read you if I'm Town reading you?"

 

??? ??? ???

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

I cant imagine a world where anyone except Zander or Nolder gets lynched today.

I barely have anything on Nolder but his pop-ins are shady.

 

Zander is not on my wtl today.

Nolder's pop-in analysis post was the fakest looking catch up assessment of a game I have ever seen.

I think it's funny I wasn't on your radar until I spoke out against you.

 

Worried?

This

Be less green please, that's something half the players in this game do.

[Darthe]

Very notably, zander. Who isn't doing it this game. Way more telling.

[monstrman]

Like if anythin it's wolfy to say you're town reading me as you bring up points against me because it looks like cognitive dissonance

[Guest]

I'm tired so going to bed but i'm wtl Calder, Darthe, Nolder.

 

For now [v]Calder[/v].

 

I gave several reasons in the past posts.

 

Never lynching Nego.

Slight town Zander/Sooh/Believer/Pral

Slight scum Monstrman/Tiink/Dice

 

Of these the biggest change is Monstrman. Most reasons are given.

[Darthe]

Manbat see my be less green post and apply accordingly

[monstrman]

If zander is a villager besie is a wolf iyam

[monstrman]

In fact

 

[V]besie [/v]

[Darthe]

Obv a wolf between them. Do you think both can be together?

[monstrman]

None of your exchange with me makes any sense

 

I can only conclude you are a wolf because of it

[Guest]

Okay besie my confusion is how can you so indignantly claim you are town reading me if you consistently bring up points as to why you think I'm scummy, then question me on saying "you don't know how to read me" when I'm saying it in response to you saying that I am scum which is exactly what is happening

 

I fail to see how that implies a guilty conscience

 That's not what you said though, is it? And I never said you were scum before about 2 minutes ago. 

 

Like, you put me in a catch 22 then said "aha I caught you in this catch 22!"

What?

 

Like if anythin it's wolfy to say you're town reading me as you bring up points against me because it looks like cognitive dissonance

I didn't - feel better now?

[monstrman]

Obv a wolf between them. Do you think both can be together?

Yeah, I do a little bit but it's not 100% solid

 

I'm still waiting on zander's reads list

[monstrman]

 

Okay besie my confusion is how can you so indignantly claim you are town reading me if you consistently bring up points as to why you think I'm scummy, then question me on saying "you don't know how to read me" when I'm saying it in response to you saying that I am scum which is exactly what is happening

I fail to see how that implies a guilty conscience

 

 That's not what you said though, is it? And I never said you were scum before about 2 minutes ago. 

 

Like, you put me in a catch 22 then said "aha I caught you in this catch 22!"

 

What?

 

Like if anythin it's wolfy to say you're town reading me as you bring up points against me because it looks like cognitive dissonance

 

I didn't - feel better now?

You are about to be crushed

[Guest]

In fact

 

[V]besie [/v]

 

Because I think your one thought was misguided? Or that it could indicate a guilty conscience? Are you going to vote every person that susses you slightly?

 

Obv a wolf between them. Do you think both can be together?

 

I don't understand. Please explain how you got to this thought process?

[Zander?]

 

Player List:

 

1. Zander2. Darthe3. Dice4. Monstr5. Hellian6. Kat/Pral7. Besie8. Nego9. Sooh10. Believer11. Tiinklove12. Calder

13. Nolder

Hellian has no posts?

 

 

Correct

 

I have seen 0 posts from Hellian and -2 Quality posts from Nolder.

 

Weird kinda dig at Nol imo.

 

Zander your posts to me come off very irritated, which is not an emotion I associate at all with your town game when questioned.

 

What emotion do you normally associate with Town Zander when hes getting sussed iyo?

 

Which game that we've played are you basing this off of?

 

Again man I stated im in 2 games, and Im still in catch up mode.

 

I dont see how Town!Calder just seemingly writes me off this early D1

 

Ive asked questions and youre not responding to them.

 

I quoted and asked you what post of mine gave you the impression you described in it from my game play up until that point.