Tarmon Gaidon [Advanced Mafia] Game Over

[Zander?]

I can skip to that in a sec if you like.  Wifi's wot making my head spin atm.

 

Her ISO made my brain hurt.

 

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[Shad_]

 

Because I thought that people would listen to logic on D2.

 

I wanted to be safe N1. Unsafe N2.

 

This kind of confuses me....unless....he's a mirror....if there is such a thing....??? where whatever is done to him is done to the person doing it to him???

 

Wifi, who told you what a Mirror was?

[Hallia]

Doing laundry ><

I don't think Tiink is scum

[Hallia]

Oh snap Shad, good question

[Zander?]

 

 

Because I thought that people would listen to logic on D2.

 

I wanted to be safe N1. Unsafe N2.

 

This kind of confuses me....unless....he's a mirror....if there is such a thing....??? where whatever is done to him is done to the person doing it to him???

 

Wifi, who told you what a Mirror was?

 

 

Very interested in this answer.

 

Doing laundry ><

I don't think Tiink is scum

 

Why?

[Hallia]

Still tone, and participation. He's not shying away.

[Zander?]

Still tone, and participation. He's not shying away.

 

Youve felt pretty solid about him for awhile cause you protected him N1 as well iirc?

[Hallia]

Prooobably has something to do with it. XD

 

I honestly think a mafia team in advanced would have multiple kills, and with there only being one, in the other world, it seems like there should have been one on ours.

[Zander?]

Prooobably has something to do with it. XD

 

I honestly think a mafia team in advanced would have multiple kills, and with there only being one, in the other world, it seems like there should have been one on ours.

 

Im confused.

 

What does the this have to do with Tink or your read on him?

[Hallia]

And so I feel like, if there was a target in our world, who would have been them, but Tiink, but he was protected.

[Zander?]

[Shad_]

TLDR

 

Tink and Kat can be w/w imo.

 

Tink votes John Snow early D1 then says John gets better as he goes along.  Doesnt want any part of the Hellian lynch.  Then switches off John Snow to Believer.  Could be some distancing there with John.

 

Then his Kat posts awe awkward.

 

He leaves 4 people in his reads list PoE and is willing to lynch all but Kat...for raisins?

His Kat reasoning is basically: since the scum roles revealed so far only work in Tel, an ability that pulls people to Tel would have more scum than town utility, so it seems like likely that a wolf targeted Kat? I think? Tiink confirm?

 

I don't really get the relevance of dreamwalker characters being villagers?

 

It makes way too many assumptions based on three flips, though I can get a basic 'scum has an ability to pull town to Tel to guarantee utility of the strongman shot later in the game', I guess.

 

I'd say it's weird, at any rate.

 

His switch from Snow to Believer is clean enough.  Hellian was afk and would know she's up for a lynch by the vote count if/when she got back.  Believer was present to actually talk to us so a vote there had more utility.  If it was a wolf switching from distancing to a town mislynch attempt, he covered his tracks well enough for it to be a rational villager play.  His push on Pral has an OMGUS undertone but he backs off later, which isn't a bad look for him if Pral's a villager.  Wolves need excuses to lynch villagers, Pral's an easy mislynch for low volume + reputation as a tricky wolf, scum inclination when most people are misreading you and you've found an excuse to push a future mislynch is to latch onto it.

 

He called out Wifi for the exact same reason I did because he failed to read her comments below the read list at a glance, just like I did.  Mindmeld of sorts, can't hate it.

 

Meh, I'll never hate a peek on Tiink but I don't think he's wolfy here.  His reason for excluding Kat is kind of weird and he doesn't consider her vote progression, but we don't even know Kat's flip yet and I'd be getting way ahead of myself to focus down that.

[Zander?]

Shad you dont think Kat would ever peace out like that in the QT and then come online not check in after Night to see and or comment on flips or anything at all as Town!Kat right??

 

I mean not even including anything else.

[Shad_]

Prooobably has something to do with it. XD

 

I honestly think a mafia team in advanced would have multiple kills, and with there only being one, in the other world, it seems like there should have been one on ours.

 

And so I feel like, if there was a target in our world, who would have been them, but Tiink, but he was protected.

 

Re scum having multiple kills: we've already seen an OP AF 1x Executioner/alt night Strongman and a town 1x vig or else SK, for which the possibility of killing towns is going to be considered in balance.  Do you really expect more killing power?

 

Scum chose to kill Nolder over myself or ZanderCass.  "Scum probably used a second shot at Tiink because I protected him and a second unaccounted kill did not happen" is meh.  The shot that did go through was a weird one.

 

I should probably mention that Zander asked people who they would cop/vig/doc and Nolder said he would doc himself.  If there was a wolf in Stedding Halli's probably town.

[Shad_]

Shad you dont think Kat would ever peace out like that in the QT and then come online not check in after Night to see and or comment on flips or anything at all as Town!Kat right??

 

I mean not even including anything else.

 

I wasn't in the QT to see what she actually said or to probe her to say more, and she doesn't play weekends.  Scum!Kat pops in to see what Nolder flipped, town!Kat pops in to see who died, neither necessarily post anything.  That by itself doesn't bother me.

[Shad_]

 

So here are my general points:

 

1. All night actions must be submitted from TR, town or scum

2. That the mafia had constraints on how many times they could submit a NK..." You cannot submit a NK 2 nights running" meaning each mafia player, therefore

3. They decided on a schedule of when each one is to submit a NK. (THIS IS PURE CONJECTURE. I have no idea if this was done or not. I am just trying to think outside the box)

 

Here are my points as to why I believe that believer is wolf:

 

1. He wants to go to TR for N2 - why?? because its his turn for a night kill. Did we get seriously lucky enough that the other only surviving wolf (as yet tbd is the one who submitted the NK last night, so can't tonight and that's why believer wants to go to TR??

2. He INSISTED that there was a wolf in the stedding. Insisted...NO way around it. Could it have been TMI? Was he talking about himself? sowing confusion? I mean seriously let's look at the people in the stedding: ME: I'm town all the way, so is zass/dice/nolder/possibly shad....hmmm so that leaves believer...whattaya know....

3. His insistence that dice "stole" his idea....give me a fricken break...it was more like agreeing with and adding on to not stealing WIFOM totally unrelated to the game at large

 

 

Reads very weird to me.

 

Defensive or very AWARE maybe?

 

Who actually does that as a wolf though?

 

I mean I've seen it in mashes, but wolves don't typically plan night actions days in advance any more than villagers plan lynches days in advance.

[Shad_]

1.  I think this is in response to tiink's post that he want's to vote me. You know how I get when people say stuff about me like you're doing now I mean be serious.  You are so tinfoiling. I have yet to rand a real mafia game: darthe's doesn't count and I subbed in the last one.  So, so far I am tied with you in that I have never rand scum.  [/size]

Let me clue you in on a little secret.

 

Zander might have never randed scum in his Mafia career.

 

But he's been Minority Village often enough. 

[Zander?]

 

Shad you dont think Kat would ever peace out like that in the QT and then come online not check in after Night to see and or comment on flips or anything at all as Town!Kat right??

 

I mean not even including anything else.

 

I wasn't in the QT to see what she actually said or to probe her to say more, and she doesn't play weekends.  Scum!Kat pops in to see what Nolder flipped, town!Kat pops in to see who died, neither necessarily post anything.  That by itself doesn't bother me.

 

 

It bothers me, a lot by itself with the rest it bothers me quite a bit.

 

 

 

 

So here are my general points:

 

1. All night actions must be submitted from TR, town or scum

2. That the mafia had constraints on how many times they could submit a NK..." You cannot submit a NK 2 nights running" meaning each mafia player, therefore

3. They decided on a schedule of when each one is to submit a NK. (THIS IS PURE CONJECTURE. I have no idea if this was done or not. I am just trying to think outside the box)

 

Here are my points as to why I believe that believer is wolf:

 

1. He wants to go to TR for N2 - why?? because its his turn for a night kill. Did we get seriously lucky enough that the other only surviving wolf (as yet tbd is the one who submitted the NK last night, so can't tonight and that's why believer wants to go to TR??

2. He INSISTED that there was a wolf in the stedding. Insisted...NO way around it. Could it have been TMI? Was he talking about himself? sowing confusion? I mean seriously let's look at the people in the stedding: ME: I'm town all the way, so is zass/dice/nolder/possibly shad....hmmm so that leaves believer...whattaya know....

3. His insistence that dice "stole" his idea....give me a fricken break...it was more like agreeing with and adding on to not stealing WIFOM totally unrelated to the game at large

 

 

Reads very weird to me.

 

Defensive or very AWARE maybe?

 

Who actually does that as a wolf though?

 

I mean I've seen it in mashes, but wolves don't typically plan night actions days in advance any more than villagers plan lynches days in advance.

 

 

I wasnt even referring to the action itself it was the PURE CONJECTURE part and on.

 

Life she was aware what she was saying and had to defend it.

 

Like a Towny isnt has worried about that kind of comment where Scum likely would be.

 

 

 

 

1.  I think this is in response to tiink's post that he want's to vote me. You know how I get when people say stuff about me like you're doing now I mean be serious.  You are so tinfoiling. I have yet to rand a real mafia game: darthe's doesn't count and I subbed in the last one.  So, so far I am tied with you in that I have never rand scum.  [/size]

Let me clue you in on a little secret.

 

Zander might have never randed scum in his Mafia career.

 

But he's been Minority Village often enough. 

 

 

Keep your shade to yourself brah. 

[Zander?]

#wordsarehard

 

Like not life

 

As not has.

[Zander?]

 

Shad you dont think Kat would ever peace out like that in the QT and then come online not check in after Night to see and or comment on flips or anything at all as Town!Kat right??

 

I mean not even including anything else.

 

I wasn't in the QT to see what she actually said or to probe her to say more, and she doesn't play weekends.  Scum!Kat pops in to see what Nolder flipped, town!Kat pops in to see who died, neither necessarily post anything.  That by itself doesn't bother me.

 

 

Like I just imagine how deflated Scum!Kat would be after Hellion Mega Power PR lynch, then,....next morning BOOM John Snow gets got.

 

I guess that prolly applies to Scum anyone but still lolololololol.

[dicetosser1]

 

note the red zander   it may be what mucks everything up

 

Even if what she told you was true, that doesnt mean Scum HAD to be in there.

 

And you said you KNOW and I dont get how you got there even before you realized the mistake.

 

Like they couldnt wait to N2 for example.

 

 

right if you think im talking to you like an idiot its cause im talking to an Infantry member.....so i am talking to an idiot :D

 

Believer was carrying on about mafia not being able to kill across QTS.  so in order to kill someone in TAR the kill had to be submitted by a mafia member who was IN TAR. In order to kill Nolder they'd have to be IN the Stedding with us.

 

i didnt believe him cause i couldnt see how he GOT that info. He never said he asked the mod. He answered me that it was on the first page. i proved that wrong..

 

While i was doing that I asked the mod. She said no. I immediately jumped to the conclusion that if mafia CANT kill across QTS then there HAD to be a scum in the Stedding.

 

 

What I didnt realise  til later was that she responded to me saying can I  do it.  Im not mafia and i didnt say can MAFIA do it.

 

 So its POSSIBLE im wrong.  but i dont think i am. 

 

That make sense now?  if not get ure cav head to explain it to you   shes smart enuff to get it :D

[Shad_]

I wasnt even referring to the action itself it was the PURE CONJECTURE part and on.

 

Life she was aware what she was saying and had to defend it.

 

Like a Towny isnt has worried about that kind of comment where Scum likely would be.

Fair and easily resolved. Did you check to see if she does this as a villager?

 

I can after I'm caught up.

[Zander?]

 

 

note the red zander   it may be what mucks everything up

 

Even if what she told you was true, that doesnt mean Scum HAD to be in there.

 

And you said you KNOW and I dont get how you got there even before you realized the mistake.

 

Like they couldnt wait to N2 for example.

 

 

right if you think im talking to you like an idiot its cause im talking to an Infantry member.....so i am talking to an idiot :D

 

Believer was carrying on about mafia not being able to kill across QTS.  so in order to kill someone in TAR the kill had to be submitted by a mafia member who was IN TAR. In order to kill Nolder they'd have to be IN the Stedding with us.

 

i didnt believe him cause i couldnt see how he GOT that info. He never said he asked the mod. He answered me that it was on the first page. i proved that wrong..

 

While i was doing that I asked the mod. She said no. I immediately jumped to the conclusion that if mafia CANT kill across QTS then there HAD to be a scum in the Stedding.

 

 

What I didnt realise  til later was that she responded to me saying can I  do it.  Im not mafia and i didnt say can MAFIA do it.

 

 So its POSSIBLE im wrong.  but i dont think i am. 

 

That make sense now?  if not get ure cav head to explain it to you   shes smart enuff to get it :D

 

 

CassGOAT ldo!!!!!

 

<3 <3 <3

 

But ok this makes some more sense to me fwiw

[Zander?]

 

I wasnt even referring to the action itself it was the PURE CONJECTURE part and on.

 

Life she was aware what she was saying and had to defend it.

 

Like a Towny isnt has worried about that kind of comment where Scum likely would be.

Fair and easily resolved. Did you check to see if she does this as a villager?

 

I can after I'm caught up.

 

 

Did you just ask me if I went back and ISO'd old Wifi games????

 

You do you brah...GLGLGLGLGLGLGL

 

lololololol

[dicetosser1]

really? Man im good at talking simple then!

 

:P