Tarmon Gaidon [Advanced Mafia] Game Over

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

 

 

He could have gone to TAR n2 and used his ability and I don't see how it's logical to think he'd draw the nk given where he was at ITT D2.

@Darthe - please explain how your role works and the motivation behind going to TAR tonight and night 1 but not N2.

 

Holy shit, I DIDNT SUBMIT A LOCATION. THERES NO GODDAMN MOTIVATION FOR WHERE I WOUND UP

You're missing the point/question.

I'm asking why n3 is different to n2 for you.

Why you care where you end up n3 if you didn't care n2.

Why you would specifically choose to go to TAR tonight because:

I was in stedding because I again didn't submit. I wanted to get the NK since it was + ev at the time. Now, I've made sure to submit TEL

 

a) I don't believe you'd believe you'd be a legit choice for NK N2 after contention on you D2;

b) You made a point here that you've made sure to submit to TAR

My power starts to matter if I show that I can live through another day, especially if kat is a wolf. Do you think my reaction to you was a wolf or town reaction?

Can you explain the bold?

And your reaction could go either way.

Imagine a confirmed town player who can't be killed. Thats been my goal and I sware ive said that like three times now. All I need Is a peek or to clear myself which, I think, can be done.

 

So why were you 'hoping to draw the NK'?

Exained multiple times. Read the thread

[Zander?]

I recognize that this is a terrible point, but in what works does wolf darthe not take the strongest safe claim in the game?

 

Does anyone honestly think androl, x shot commuter, is it?

 

I dunno for certain but I could wager a guess he takes w/e he needs to work with and will roll with it imo.

 

Dont worry imma ISO you again and see what shakes loose.

[Darthe]

 

 

So you're calling Kat and Zass as W/W after yesterday's grilling? lol

 

It's prob retarded but I don't see the conclusions and pushes they're making together. As anything less than an internal and external contradiction, the sole purpose of which is to get me lynched over kat who has done nothing

 

Anyone who knows me, knows I like to Bus.

 

But those same people also know Im not the type of person to push  someone I talk to away from DM for out of game reasons if I was Scum!Zander.

 

Especially if she was a teammate.

 

I may be a dummy but Im not prick.

 

 

 

As you can see, I'm very clearly on my wolf game and should be crucified for that.

The bits in your mind saying wait, darthe countered or gave context to every point against him? Yeah, repress those. They're of no consequence.

 

 

Seems legit.

 

If Darthe wins this game as scum I will actually kill myself.

 

 

Scum!Darthe is not winning this game.

 

You just summed up the main reason I'm on the table

 

 

Yep only reason youre on the table is because were scared if youre Scum!Darthe you will beat us.

 

2 things:

 

If youre Town gtf over yourself. And own up to your game.

 

and

 

Regardless of your alignment this whole response is just a lot of lolololololol

I like to bus is not a defense and mocking me doesnt make me wrong.

[Darthe]

You know, if the OP ever reflected dead people this would be so much easier to keep track of.

[Darthe]

Marsh

Shad

 

Zass (huge deepwolf potential, if kat is town they go to the bottom)

Wild

 

Laya

 

Kat

[Darthe]

 

I recognize that this is a terrible point, but in what works does wolf darthe not take the strongest safe claim in the game?

Does anyone honestly think androl, x shot commuter, is it?

 

 

I dunno for certain but I could wager a guess he takes w/e he needs to work with and will roll with it imo.

 

Dont worry imma ISO you again and see what shakes loose.

Oh I cant wait

[Zander?]

 

 

He could have gone to TAR n2 and used his ability and I don't see how it's logical to think he'd draw the nk given where he was at ITT D2.

 

@Darthe - please explain how your role works and the motivation behind going to TAR tonight and night 1 but not N2.

Holy shit, I DIDNT SUBMIT A LOCATION. THERES NO GODDAMN MOTIVATION FOR WHERE I WOUND UP

You're missing the point/question.

 

I'm asking why n3 is different to n2 for you.

 

Why you care where you end up n3 if you didn't care n2.

 

Why you would specifically choose to go to TAR tonight because:

 

 

I was in stedding because I again didn't submit.  I wanted to get the NK since it was + ev at the time.  Now, I've made sure to submit TEL

a) I don't believe you'd believe you'd be a legit choice for NK N2 after contention on you D2;

 

b) You made a point here that you've made sure to submit to TAR

 

 

CassGOATENFPMUSITWIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Derf you're confusing me. EoD yesterday you were all about not getting lynched, but then you apparently want to draw the night kill, then you say you wouldn't accuse Zass of being scum if you wanted to live, but lunching you is a terrible decision for town.

 

So do you want to life or die? Cause you're giving mixed signals. Unless you're some sort of special third party who wins if you get NKd but loses if lynched, I don't see any rhyme or reason behind this.

 

I thought I remembered seeing something after Cass brought it up in the QT irt Darthe.

 

Imma look through myself and we'll see if it leads to anything.

 

 

 

 

Holy shit, I DIDNT SUBMIT A LOCATION. THERES NO GODDAMN MOTIVATION FOR WHERE I WOUND UP

If you are actually town this game, you have made some awful decisions this game. Not resolving kat D2 and instead moving onto Believer who was more or less confirmed town, not choosing you abilities, trying to draw NK etc. I don't see these coming from town you, frankly.

Yes I have. Believer made more sense to me but I think the rest of it in hindsight was inoptimal

How did Believer make MORE sense to you than Kat?

 

IMO it was fairly obvious that the dude was at a minimum trying very hard to draw the NK. There was an outside chance he was scum but after his previous game's play, and while that was an option he shouldn't have been an actual contender for the lynch.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Holy shit, I DIDNT SUBMIT A LOCATION. THERES NO GODDAMN MOTIVATION FOR WHERE I WOUND UP

If you are actually town this game, you have made some awful decisions this game. Not resolving kat D2 and instead moving onto Believer who was more or less confirmed town, not choosing you abilities, trying to draw NK etc. I don't see these coming from town you, frankly.

Yes I have. Believer made more sense to me but I think the rest of it in hindsight was inoptimal

How did Believer make MORE sense to you than Kat?

 

IMO it was fairly obvious that the dude was at a minimum trying very hard to draw the NK. There was an outside chance he was scum but after his previous game's play, and while that was an option he shouldn't have been an actual contender for the lynch.

I didnt read kat and I wanted wolves. Imo believe, especially post claim, didnt seem.. Believable.

 

 

As believable as say, no Town trains and only 3 competing Scum trains D1????

[Cass]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He could have gone to TAR n2 and used his ability and I don't see how it's logical to think he'd draw the nk given where he was at ITT D2.

@Darthe - please explain how your role works and the motivation behind going to TAR tonight and night 1 but not N2.

Holy shit, I DIDNT SUBMIT A LOCATION. THERES NO GODDAMN MOTIVATION FOR WHERE I WOUND UP

You're missing the point/question.

I'm asking why n3 is different to n2 for you.

Why you care where you end up n3 if you didn't care n2.

Why you would specifically choose to go to TAR tonight because:

I was in stedding because I again didn't submit. I wanted to get the NK since it was + ev at the time. Now, I've made sure to submit TEL

a) I don't believe you'd believe you'd be a legit choice for NK N2 after contention on you D2;

b) You made a point here that you've made sure to submit to TAR

My power starts to matter if I show that I can live through another day, especially if kat is a wolf. Do you think my reaction to you was a wolf or town reaction?

Can you explain the bold?

And your reaction could go either way.

Imagine a confirmed town player who can't be killed. Thats been my goal and I sware ive said that like three times now. All I need Is a peek or to clear myself which, I think, can be done.

 

So why were you 'hoping to draw the NK'?

Exained multiple times. Read the thread

 

 

I have and I don't understand. If your goal has honestly been 'confirmed town player who can't be killed' why would you offer yourself up for NK? Why would you fail to submit a choice to TAR, where you could just commute yourself to guaranteed safety?

[Cass]

Marsh

Shad

 

Zass (huge deepwolf potential, if kat is town they go to the bottom)

Wild

 

Laya

 

Kat

 

Why's Pral so low?

[Zander?]

 

Derf you're confusing me. EoD yesterday you were all about not getting lynched, but then you apparently want to draw the night kill, then you say you wouldn't accuse Zass of being scum if you wanted to live, but lunching you is a terrible decision for town.

 

So do you want to life or die? Cause you're giving mixed signals. Unless you're some sort of special third party who wins if you get NKd but loses if lynched, I don't see any rhyme or reason behind this.

Im gonna fight death but if im gonna die then im gonna go out doing my job right.

 

I couldnt at game start, bad irl timing from me and I didnt have my head in the game. Now ive got the time, I have the motivation, the only thing im missing is the right history to be in a good place help town. Post death my words are verified as coming from a tiwnie, so its worth it for me to dig atm and case rather than solely defend.

 

 

Thia is the right attitude man.

 

Ive told you Im still more then interested in lunching Kat today.

 

As Ive mentioned  few times give us a full reads list and dig in.

 

If Im wrong on you you can tease me post game about it but if youre Town leave it all out here.

 

And you will also have the QT at night if youre the lynch today.

 

I would like you to answer 1 question tho and if you could show your work it would be great and go along way for you.

 

You said the Wolves were in Zass/Kat/Wifi.

 

No obv I KNOW youre wrong on us but Id really like for you to show us how ANY combo of the players you listed here make sense together please.

[Tiinker]

Marsh

Shad

 

Zass (huge deepwolf potential, if kat is town they go to the bottom)

Wild

 

Laya

 

Kat

 

Why do I always get left off these lists?

[Zander?]

Im todays lynch over kat btw. Wild will hop on me to tie it and kat isnt voting yet, but I bet you she finds a way to miraculously show up.

 

 

You guys know im town. Theres never been a darthe in this history of darthes thats this impassioned, has this wim, or manages to make these points at his lynch.

 

If you dont see that, you may as well go ahead and quit, this game isnt for your town.

 

Why do you assume Wild will "hop" on you and Kat will just pop back in?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He could have gone to TAR n2 and used his ability and I don't see how it's logical to think he'd draw the nk given where he was at ITT D2.

 

@Darthe - please explain how your role works and the motivation behind going to TAR tonight and night 1 but not N2.

Holy shit, I DIDNT SUBMIT A LOCATION. THERES NO GODDAMN MOTIVATION FOR WHERE I WOUND UP

You're missing the point/question.

 

I'm asking why n3 is different to n2 for you.

 

Why you care where you end up n3 if you didn't care n2.

 

Why you would specifically choose to go to TAR tonight because:

 

I was in stedding because I again didn't submit. I wanted to get the NK since it was + ev at the time. Now, I've made sure to submit TEL

a) I don't believe you'd believe you'd be a legit choice for NK N2 after contention on you D2;

 

b) You made a point here that you've made sure to submit to TAR

My power starts to matter if I show that I can live through another day, especially if kat is a wolf. Do you think my reaction to you was a wolf or town reaction?

 

 

Can you explain the bold?

 

And your reaction could go either way.

 

 

So you havent used your ability yet?

 

 

Darthe - Do you believe Hallia's claim?

Yeah, I really doubted it last night cause three protective roles in game?? But its hard to get past the apparent lack of a wolf kill.

 

 

I believed it yesterday over believe and didn't think their could be three protects. Last night I doubted her because he was proven and I know mines real. Today I just look like a moron for doubting, so ive got little chpice but to believe somehow we have three.

 

 

Yet another point vouching for my consistency and openness despite *knowing* it would make me look worse.

 

Can you elaborate on the bolded please cause Im not following?

 

 

 

 

 

 

He could have gone to TAR n2 and used his ability and I don't see how it's logical to think he'd draw the nk given where he was at ITT D2.

 

@Darthe - please explain how your role works and the motivation behind going to TAR tonight and night 1 but not N2.

Holy shit, I DIDNT SUBMIT A LOCATION. THERES NO GODDAMN MOTIVATION FOR WHERE I WOUND UP

You're missing the point/question.

 

I'm asking why n3 is different to n2 for you.

 

Why you care where you end up n3 if you didn't care n2.

 

Why you would specifically choose to go to TAR tonight because:

 

I was in stedding because I again didn't submit. I wanted to get the NK since it was + ev at the time. Now, I've made sure to submit TEL

a) I don't believe you'd believe you'd be a legit choice for NK N2 after contention on you D2;

 

b) You made a point here that you've made sure to submit to TAR

My power starts to matter if I show that I can live through another day, especially if kat is a wolf. Do you think my reaction to you was a wolf or town reaction?

Can you explain the bold?

 

And your reaction could go either way.

Imagine a confirmed town player who can't be killed. Thats been my goal and I sware ive said that like three times now. All I need Is a peek or to clear myself which, I think, can be done.

 

 

How can you CONFIRM yourself Town minus like your flip???

 

And please explain how you cannot be killed when you claim your ability is only x1.

 

 

Am I wasting my time? Do any of you give a damn about trying to clear me if I am villa?

 

If youre Town working towards solving the game and knowing you still have the night to work things out shouldnt be considered a waste of time from a Town!Darthe PoV imo.

[Darthe]

I'm honestly not that far yet. I see you and wifi detracting actively from kat when its a sure thing and it just seems like trying to stay the noose. Thats my connection. If kat isnt a wolf I know one lf wifi or laya is because laya is classic wolf laya. Drop in with a safe, if good point, then disappear for a day. He has 50 ish posts and most came early, which he has learned establishes him.

 

Thats how ive developed these reads. Remember, my head wasnt half here before this day.

[Darthe]

 

Marsh

Shad

Zass (huge deepwolf potential, if kat is town they go to the bottom)

Wild

Laya

Kat

 

 

Why do I always get left off these lists?

Sorry I couldnt remember who was alive! Youre in your own bracket above zass and wifi but below the top 2

[Darthe]

I'm honestly not that far yet. I see you and wifi detracting actively from kat when its a sure thing and it just seems like trying to stay the noose. Thats my connection. If kat isnt a wolf I know one lf wifi or laya is because laya is classic wolf laya. Drop in with a safe, if good point, then disappear for a day. He has 50 ish posts and most came early, which he has learned establishes him.

Thats how ive developed these reads. Remember, my head wasnt half here before this day.

This was irt zanders question about my read development on him wifi and kat

[Tiinker]

Can someone give me some Shad scum games to read through? 

[Zander?]

For the record I don't hate the idea of leaving Darthe alive. He is showing a lot more interest in helping the town now and I'm curious to see where that goes.

 

Do you think a Darthe!Town flip looks bad for Hallia?

 

Do you think a Darthe!Scum flip clears her?

 

 

 

 

Im todays lynch over kat btw. Wild will hop on me to tie it and kat isnt voting yet, but I bet you she finds a way to miraculously show up.

 

 

You guys know im town. Theres never been a darthe in this history of darthes thats this impassioned, has this wim, or manages to make these points at his lynch.

 

If you dont see that, you may as well go ahead and quit, this game isnt for your town.

 

Stop the WIM lol seriously. If there's this much pressure on you and it's lasted this long maybe you should really consider that you haven't played your best town game. 

 

The bold is something that I also want to avoid. 

 

 

Agree with the first line

 

and

 

disagree with the second

 

I want to show up like now and see what she has to say.

 

 

Well im glad to know you dont hate it.

It's more than that. I think I see someone or someones trying to save Kat again. Last EoD there was a sudden CFD that saved her, and now they're doing it again but early because there's a chance that the deadline comes soon. It makes me want to lynch Kat all the more.

 

 

Who are these people, can you show us examples and can you tell us what your reads on these people are please?

 

I want to see Shad case someone not Kat or Darthe. I've been relying on him in a lot of ways to bounce ideas off but he hasn't said much about me or anyone else really. Trying to fly under the radar while maintaining a strong position while everyone is preoccupied?

 

I can def see a world where Town!Shad is legit atp needing a flip to make sense of things.

 

That said Shad is still my deepwolf candidate.

[BFG]

D3 Votecount

 

 

Kat (5): Tiinker, Shad, Darthe, WiFi, Ironeyes

 

Darthe (3): Zass, Hallia, Pral

 

 

Not Voting (1): Kat

 

[Darthe]

 

Im todays lynch over kat btw. Wild will hop on me to tie it and kat isnt voting yet, but I bet you she finds a way to miraculously show up.

You guys know im town. Theres never been a darthe in this history of darthes thats this impassioned, has this wim, or manages to make these points at his lynch.

If you dont see that, you may as well go ahead and quit, this game isnt for your town.

 

 

Why do you assume Wild will "hop" on you and Kat will just pop back in?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He could have gone to TAR n2 and used his ability and I don't see how it's logical to think he'd draw the nk given where he was at ITT D2.

@Darthe - please explain how your role works and the motivation behind going to TAR tonight and night 1 but not N2.

 

Holy shit, I DIDNT SUBMIT A LOCATION. THERES NO GODDAMN MOTIVATION FOR WHERE I WOUND UP

You're missing the point/question.

I'm asking why n3 is different to n2 for you.

Why you care where you end up n3 if you didn't care n2.

Why you would specifically choose to go to TAR tonight because:

I was in stedding because I again didn't submit. I wanted to get the NK since it was + ev at the time. Now, I've made sure to submit TEL

 

a) I don't believe you'd believe you'd be a legit choice for NK N2 after contention on you D2;

b) You made a point here that you've made sure to submit to TAR

My power starts to matter if I show that I can live through another day, especially if kat is a wolf. Do you think my reaction to you was a wolf or town reaction?

 

Can you explain the bold?

 

And your reaction could go either way.

 

So you havent used your ability yet?

 

 

Darthe - Do you believe Hallia's claim?

 

Yeah, I really doubted it last night cause three protective roles in game?? But its hard to get past the apparent lack of a wolf kill.

I believed it yesterday over believe and didn't think their could be three protects. Last night I doubted her because he was proven and I know mines real. Today I just look like a moron for doubting, so ive got little chpice but to believe somehow we have three.

Yet another point vouching for my consistency and openness despite *knowing* it would make me look worse.

Can you elaborate on the bolded please cause Im not following?

 

 

 

 

 

 

He could have gone to TAR n2 and used his ability and I don't see how it's logical to think he'd draw the nk given where he was at ITT D2.

@Darthe - please explain how your role works and the motivation behind going to TAR tonight and night 1 but not N2.

 

Holy shit, I DIDNT SUBMIT A LOCATION. THERES NO GODDAMN MOTIVATION FOR WHERE I WOUND UP

You're missing the point/question.

I'm asking why n3 is different to n2 for you.

Why you care where you end up n3 if you didn't care n2.

Why you would specifically choose to go to TAR tonight because:

I was in stedding because I again didn't submit. I wanted to get the NK since it was + ev at the time. Now, I've made sure to submit TEL

 

a) I don't believe you'd believe you'd be a legit choice for NK N2 after contention on you D2;

b) You made a point here that you've made sure to submit to TAR

My power starts to matter if I show that I can live through another day, especially if kat is a wolf. Do you think my reaction to you was a wolf or town reaction?

Can you explain the bold?

And your reaction could go either way.

Imagine a confirmed town player who can't be killed. Thats been my goal and I sware ive said that like three times now. All I need Is a peek or to clear myself which, I think, can be done.

 

How can you CONFIRM yourself Town minus like your flip???

 

And please explain how you cannot be killed when you claim your ability is only x1.

 

 

Am I wasting my time? Do any of you give a damn about trying to clear me if I am villa?

 

 

If youre Town working towards solving the game and knowing you still have the night to work things out shouldnt be considered a waste of time from a Town!Darthe PoV imo.

I can confirm my ability just by using it. When did I claim 1x? Im pretty sure ive only been sayin x shot.

[Ironeyes]

 

For the record I don't hate the idea of leaving Darthe alive. He is showing a lot more interest in helping the town now and I'm curious to see where that goes.

Do you think a Darthe!Town flip looks bad for Hallia?

 

Do you think a Darthe!Scum flip clears her?

 

 

 

Im todays lynch over kat btw. Wild will hop on me to tie it and kat isnt voting yet, but I bet you she finds a way to miraculously show up.

 

 

You guys know im town. Theres never been a darthe in this history of darthes thats this impassioned, has this wim, or manages to make these points at his lynch.

 

If you dont see that, you may as well go ahead and quit, this game isnt for your town.

Stop the WIM lol seriously. If there's this much pressure on you and it's lasted this long maybe you should really consider that you haven't played your best town game.

 

The bold is something that I also want to avoid.

Agree with the first line

 

and

 

disagree with the second

 

I want to show up like now and see what she has to say.

 

Well im glad to know you dont hate it.

It's more than that. I think I see someone or someones trying to save Kat again. Last EoD there was a sudden CFD that saved her, and now they're doing it again but early because there's a chance that the deadline comes soon. It makes me want to lynch Kat all the more.

Who are these people, can you show us examples and can you tell us what your reads on these people are please?

I want to see Shad case someone not Kat or Darthe. I've been relying on him in a lot of ways to bounce ideas off but he hasn't said much about me or anyone else really. Trying to fly under the radar while maintaining a strong position while everyone is preoccupied?

I can def see a world where Town!Shad is legit atp needing a flip to make sense of things.

 

That said Shad is still my deepwolf candidate.

@first quote: I think Hallia is mostly town either way, because I can't look past the uncontested doc claim. I'm willing to accept there being a doc here despite all the protective roles because there is a corresponding preponderance of extra kills. I had one, Dice had one, scum had a strongman (which would be less useful if there were no doc).

 

@third quote I need to analyze the trains to do that but I'm on mobile, so it'll have to wait for later

[Cass]

 

 

 

Holy shit, I DIDNT SUBMIT A LOCATION. THERES NO GODDAMN MOTIVATION FOR WHERE I WOUND UP

 

If you are actually town this game, you have made some awful decisions this game. Not resolving kat D2 and instead moving onto Believer who was more or less confirmed town, not choosing you abilities, trying to draw NK etc. I don't see these coming from town you, frankly. 

 

Pretty much this. Plus concern over the fact that you've hedged on Hallia and shaded the idea of Doc while lynching Believer.

And the fact that Hallia is still alive as claimed Doc.

 

And the fact that a role which can drag players to TAR makes sense for scum.

 

And that Kat being dragged to TAR lines up with the last time you were in TAR, the only place you can use your powers.

 

And you're going to TAR again tonight.

 

We're happy with a Kat/Darthe lynch today and have said as much, the hedging and possibilities above is the reason I want you resolved first.

 

Yes, it's a jump. 

 

If it's not you though, then who?

 

I'm glad to see you've got some WIM. I guarantee you it's not us.

I couldnt know those were bad plays til I did them, that points stupid. Flat stupid.

 

No clue why hally is alive, thats not a point against me though, its more a question that youre treating like an accusation.

 

The third point you literally ****ing made up. Why do I have to keep saying this? It's also utterly irrelevant because it has nothing to do with *me specifically*. It's about wolves in general.

 

Kat being dragged to Tar says you believe her. That says you know she Is telling the truth, which doesnt line up with your slot wanting to resolve her or calling us w/w. Good luck explaining that internal conflict.

 

Lol wait, so you believe her and are good to lynch me using that as evidence but your next line youre totally ok with resolving her still? Thats talking out both sides of your mouth plain as day.

 

If not me then who is also a case.

 

Congrats, youve managed to recant five things utterly irrelevant to my alignment a dozen times across twenty pages and you expect me to believe that you honestly think those have baring on my alignment?

 

Get rekt, youre a wolf or youre useless this game, either way youre better dead.

 

 

No. Don't get narky/avoid the question. Read what I'm asking and respond without throwing everything back in my face please.

 

The jump to you is because I think you've played scummy and I think it fits. 

 

I'm asking if it's not you, then who because I think you've played scummy but I'm acknowledging I might be wrong.

 

My point is I'm considering there is a role that drags Town to Scum in TAR.

 

Kat may have been dragged to TAR by scum.

 

I'm thinking if Kat's not lying, it may have been you.

 

I'm asking for your thoughts/opinions - they don't have to be centered around you defending you.

 

 

 

And the last part is just OTT.  I/we may be wrong but we're not Scum and we're not useless - we're full of WIM, we lunched a wolf, we've got two likely in our sights IMO and did I mention WIM? This is important, and I guarantee you we are Town. Comments like you repeatedly make to players like that are demotivating and -ev for Town.

 

If that's the way you're going to approach people attempting to actually solve, you shouldn't be surprised when I'm sus about you for that attitude combined with posts like:

 

 

 

 

 

[V] believer [/v] I liked the reasons.discussed in the QT

What are your thoughts on Kat Darthe?

 

Any reads to share man?

Kat ive not payed much attention to. I know y'all wanna full list but its not in the cards tonight guys, maybe in the morning.

 

 

 

[V] believer [/v] I liked the reasons.discussed in the QT

 

 

[V] hellian [/v] literally just so I'm voting today

 

 

Darest I say that zander and cass have pinged me a few times? I darest, but I do recognize that it's prob a factor of how many posts they have, or my inherent aversion to chumminess.

 

 

Ima roll with it [V] kat [/v]

 

 

 

 

 

[V] believer [/v] I liked the reasons.discussed in the QT

What are your thoughts on Kat Darthe?

 

Any reads to share man?

Kat ive not payed much attention to. I know y'all wanna full list but its not in the cards tonight guys, maybe in the morning.

 

 

 

[V] believer [/v] I liked the reasons.discussed in the QT

 

 

[V] hellian [/v] literally just so I'm voting today

 

 

Darest I say that zander and cass have pinged me a few times? I darest, but I do recognize that it's prob a factor of how many posts they have, or my inherent aversion to chumminess.

 

 

Ima roll with it [V] kat [/v]

 

[Zander?]

 

 

Well im glad to know you dont hate it.

It's more than that. I think I see someone or someones trying to save Kat again. Last EoD there was a sudden CFD that saved her, and now they're doing it again but early because there's a chance that the deadline comes soon. It makes me want to lynch Kat all the more.

Comparing trains would be interesting

 

 

We have competing trains imo so Im not sure what youre getting at here?

 

 

 

Im todays lynch over kat btw. Wild will hop on me to tie it and kat isnt voting yet, but I bet you she finds a way to miraculously show up.

You guys know im town. Theres never been a darthe in this history of darthes thats this impassioned, has this wim, or manages to make these points at his lynch.

If you dont see that, you may as well go ahead and quit, this game isnt for your town.

 

Stop the WIM lol seriously. If there's this much pressure on you and it's lasted this long maybe you should really consider that you haven't played your best town game. 

 

The bold is something that I also want to avoid.

Im fully aware, people expect to see a lot of me to count me as town though. Im not someone anyones ever comfy reading and just trusting that read, so if I dont post at near zander levels and catch a wolf and make all optimal plays I get cased.

 

I just dont have that in me every game. Keep in mind that im a double grad student with a new job giys, please. I cant do everything all the time to stay where youd like to see me.

 

 

If we ever like rand masons or Scum together I will loan you some of my WIM!!!!!!!!!

 

lololololol

 

And man if youre Town and it is like legit RL stuff hanging you up IM legit sorry.

 

Believe me I know, you remember the game where Town Lainey and Daarthe ML Town!Znder for #lolisns???

 

 

If kats town I get that nothing is saving me. I dont get why anyone on the outside would ever consider me the better choice to lynch, not in any regard from wolfiness to wim to anything, really.

 

Its funny how youre NOW so certain Kats a Wolf when you refused to read or ISO her and blatantly refused to give a read on her for like 2 days imo.

[Cass]

I'm honestly not that far yet. I see you and wifi detracting actively from kat when its a sure thing and it just seems like trying to stay the noose. Thats my connection. If kat isnt a wolf I know one lf wifi or laya is because laya is classic wolf laya. Drop in with a safe, if good point, then disappear for a day. He has 50 ish posts and most came early, which he has learned establishes him.

 

Thats how ive developed these reads. Remember, my head wasnt half here before this day.

 

This is what I see with you wrt Believer.

 

This was more about going after you than detracting from Kat.

 

How is what you describe different to what Laya does as Town?

[Cass]

 

If kats town I get that nothing is saving me. I dont get why anyone on the outside would ever consider me the better choice to lynch, not in any regard from wolfiness to wim to anything, really.

 

Its funny how youre NOW so certain Kats a Wolf when you refused to read or ISO her and blatantly refused to give a read on her for like 2 days imo.

 

 

ZanderGOAT

[Zander?]

 

 

Im todays lynch over kat btw. Wild will hop on me to tie it and kat isnt voting yet, but I bet you she finds a way to miraculously show up.

You guys know im town. Theres never been a darthe in this history of darthes thats this impassioned, has this wim, or manages to make these points at his lynch.

If you dont see that, you may as well go ahead and quit, this game isnt for your town.

 

Why do you assume Wild will "hop" on you and Kat will just pop back in?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He could have gone to TAR n2 and used his ability and I don't see how it's logical to think he'd draw the nk given where he was at ITT D2.

@Darthe - please explain how your role works and the motivation behind going to TAR tonight and night 1 but not N2.

Holy shit, I DIDNT SUBMIT A LOCATION. THERES NO GODDAMN MOTIVATION FOR WHERE I WOUND UP

You're missing the point/question.

I'm asking why n3 is different to n2 for you.

Why you care where you end up n3 if you didn't care n2.

Why you would specifically choose to go to TAR tonight because:

I was in stedding because I again didn't submit. I wanted to get the NK since it was + ev at the time. Now, I've made sure to submit TEL

a) I don't believe you'd believe you'd be a legit choice for NK N2 after contention on you D2;

b) You made a point here that you've made sure to submit to TAR

My power starts to matter if I show that I can live through another day, especially if kat is a wolf. Do you think my reaction to you was a wolf or town reaction?

 

Can you explain the bold?

 

And your reaction could go either way.

 

So you havent used your ability yet?

 

 

Darthe - Do you believe Hallia's claim?

Yeah, I really doubted it last night cause three protective roles in game?? But its hard to get past the apparent lack of a wolf kill.

I believed it yesterday over believe and didn't think their could be three protects. Last night I doubted her because he was proven and I know mines real. Today I just look like a moron for doubting, so ive got little chpice but to believe somehow we have three.

Yet another point vouching for my consistency and openness despite *knowing* it would make me look worse.

Can you elaborate on the bolded please cause Im not following?

 

 

 

 

 

 

He could have gone to TAR n2 and used his ability and I don't see how it's logical to think he'd draw the nk given where he was at ITT D2.

@Darthe - please explain how your role works and the motivation behind going to TAR tonight and night 1 but not N2.

Holy shit, I DIDNT SUBMIT A LOCATION. THERES NO GODDAMN MOTIVATION FOR WHERE I WOUND UP

You're missing the point/question.

I'm asking why n3 is different to n2 for you.

Why you care where you end up n3 if you didn't care n2.

Why you would specifically choose to go to TAR tonight because:

I was in stedding because I again didn't submit. I wanted to get the NK since it was + ev at the time. Now, I've made sure to submit TEL

a) I don't believe you'd believe you'd be a legit choice for NK N2 after contention on you D2;

b) You made a point here that you've made sure to submit to TAR

My power starts to matter if I show that I can live through another day, especially if kat is a wolf. Do you think my reaction to you was a wolf or town reaction?

Can you explain the bold?

And your reaction could go either way.

Imagine a confirmed town player who can't be killed. Thats been my goal and I sware ive said that like three times now. All I need Is a peek or to clear myself which, I think, can be done.

 

How can you CONFIRM yourself Town minus like your flip???

 

And please explain how you cannot be killed when you claim your ability is only x1.

 

 

Am I wasting my time? Do any of you give a damn about trying to clear me if I am villa?

 

If youre Town working towards solving the game and knowing you still have the night to work things out shouldnt be considered a waste of time from a Town!Darthe PoV imo.

I can confirm my ability just by using it. When did I claim 1x? Im pretty sure ive only been sayin x shot.

 

 

Could you answer the rest of the questions please.

 

I recognize that this is a terrible point, but in what works does wolf darthe not take the strongest safe claim in the game?

 

Does anyone honestly think androl, x shot commuter, is it?

 

You are correct about the x shot.

 

My bad

 

Point still stands tho you can still be killed if you live more nights then you have shots tho right?

 

 

 

 

Holy shit, I DIDNT SUBMIT A LOCATION. THERES NO GODDAMN MOTIVATION FOR WHERE I WOUND UP

 

If you are actually town this game, you have made some awful decisions this game. Not resolving kat D2 and instead moving onto Believer who was more or less confirmed town, not choosing you abilities, trying to draw NK etc. I don't see these coming from town you, frankly. 

 

Pretty much this. Plus concern over the fact that you've hedged on Hallia and shaded the idea of Doc while lynching Believer.

And the fact that Hallia is still alive as claimed Doc.

 

And the fact that a role which can drag players to TAR makes sense for scum.

 

And that Kat being dragged to TAR lines up with the last time you were in TAR, the only place you can use your powers.

 

And you're going to TAR again tonight.

 

We're happy with a Kat/Darthe lynch today and have said as much, the hedging and possibilities above is the reason I want you resolved first.

 

Yes, it's a jump. 

 

If it's not you though, then who?

 

I'm glad to see you've got some WIM. I guarantee you it's not us.

I couldnt know those were bad plays til I did them, that points stupid. Flat stupid.

 

No clue why hally is alive, thats not a point against me though, its more a question that youre treating like an accusation.

 

The third point you literally ****ing made up. Why do I have to keep saying this? It's also utterly irrelevant because it has nothing to do with *me specifically*. It's about wolves in general.

 

Kat being dragged to Tar says you believe her. That says you know she Is telling the truth, which doesnt line up with your slot wanting to resolve her or calling us w/w. Good luck explaining that internal conflict.

 

Lol wait, so you believe her and are good to lynch me using that as evidence but your next line youre totally ok with resolving her still? Thats talking out both sides of your mouth plain as day.

 

If not me then who is also a case.

 

Congrats, youve managed to recant five things utterly irrelevant to my alignment a dozen times across twenty pages and you expect me to believe that you honestly think those have baring on my alignment?

 

Get rekt, youre a wolf or youre useless this game, either way youre better dead.

 

 

Dude idgaf if you actually think were Wolves or youre Scum trying to push that.

 

But you saying something like that to Cass again its not gonna be a good scene.

 

CassGOATENFPMUSICTWIN has put a 1,000,000x more effort then you this game.

 

So PLEASE stop and you should be a man and apologize to her.