[Role Madness] Overwatch Mafia - Game Over

[Wildfire Sedai]

I would have definitely commented on it if I had seen it.

[Shad_]

I really don't think Zander is a wolf. I mean it's been like a year since he's had a really great wolf game so I guess it's a little easy to grow comfortable with him when he's not doing the things that outed him as a wolf to me really easily the last few times he randed scum, but suffice to say I wouldn't feel bad about losing to him at this point.  Absence of well established scum tells that he's been unable to change in the past despite being well aware of them means villager the vast majority of the time, and if it does mean wolf it's outstanding wolfing.

 

That "it sounds to me like you know Pral's going to flip town and you're prepping for it" could be setting  up a mislynch, sure, but it's something he'd say as town like clockwork.  I was able to dupe him pretty easily the last two times I scummed against him because I knew precisely what not to say to avoid setting him off despite that I would have said it as a villager.

 

Pral had me second guessing his wolf credentials pretty hard in JC and I know he's one to keep fighting when it looks like the gig is up.  What I did to dupe Verb and Eldrick in Minions after subbing into a slot that was already pretty much fully outed--Pral goes there and I've got a world of respect for it but it makes me trust this behavior out of him less than I would from some people.

 

My biggest fear is that Cory's wolfing and I don't have the energy to fight it.  But that's baseless save a few instances where we failed to click when I was expecting us to--mainly on the disparity between Wifi's BtW game and her village games, the initial hesitance to call me a villager after my like 60-post catch-up on D1, and the level of complexity he presented in making his case for Crusher being a villager.  None of those things are really a case and my gut maintains this excessive standard that town!Cory should never ping me ever, which is pretty silly when every villager is guaranteed to a few times before a game is over.

[Zander?]

 

 

Dont be scared Wolves....

 

 

 

I'm unsure yet;

 

What are you talking about Zander??

 

Sick xpost Hallia

 

1Then whats giving you that feeling?

2What are your reads on me and Cory?

3About your EoD.

You answered parts of it so you obv read through it.

Your sheeping, your nonchalant attitude to mislynching a Towny, especially Kat who has helped us form the Tri-Force of Lunching Wolves.

 

1. Your interactions

2. I had you both as town.  I honestly think it might be you Zandoozle. 

3. I answered as much as I'm going to answer tonight about it in regards to my nighttime ability.  Would you have preferred a no lynch?  I don't know what SPECIFICALLY you want me to answer.

 

 

Why me over Cory?

 

What does your nighttime ability have to do with your EoD attitude???

[Cory Caboose]

She's dead Jim

[Shad_]

Here's hoping I get to feel stupid instead of saying I told you so?

[Cory Caboose]

Pral had me second guessing his wolf credentials pretty hard in JC and I know he's one to keep fighting when it looks like the gig is up.  What I did to dupe Verb and Eldrick in Minions after subbing into a slot that was already pretty much fully outed--Pral goes there and I've got a world of respect for it but it makes me trust this behavior out of him less than I would from some people.

 

This is my experience re: Pral as well

 

I think the spots where he did not argue are so much more important than the spots where he does and I doubt I'll get past that.

 

Specifically I remember a game where he maintained his "but I'm town" shtick including a self-vote in some game where he was outed by an NA to the very very end.

[Cory Caboose]

Here's hoping I get to feel stupid instead of saying I told you so?

 

If this is about me, you can get the idea out of your head

 

You won't

 

But you can and you'd be safe

[Shad_]

It was about nothing actually.   I misread a post.

[Cory Caboose]

and fwiw I was not sober when I made that read re: Crusher. just thought about it and got really excited, not sure what if it's even relevant because I'm guessing Pral might not have realized the anon vote would out him after thinking about the situaton more

[Zander?]

 

And now Pral's linking himself to you even more with that straight up Town read.

If Pral is a wolf he's as good as already dead and interpreting his reads as of last night is pure WIFOM.

 

 

More then likely but if he is a Wolf he had to place the other Wolf or Wolves somewhere.

 

 

Look you know I don't INTENTIONALLY lie...I have MISintentionally lied this game as a matter of fact...It's my wording...alotta times I am not sure what/how to word things and it comes out the wrong way i.e. when I was trying to NOT to tell you about my PR.  I did not INTENTIONALLY lie.  I was trying to word it so that I wouldn't tell you too much w/o lying and it came out wrong. zander brought it up.  I am not going to iso him but I am sure he remembers it.

 

Anyway...I usually only make commitments cause commitments can be accidentally broken: for example:  You make a commitment to go to your sisters wedding in CA you live in MA across country.  You decide to take a 2 weeks vacation to drive across country with your family and do some site seeing along the way.  Along the way you get 3 flat tires, your muffler falls off, you get lost 3 times for 4 hours each...in other words you miss your sisters wedding.  Also after the muffler fell off you stopped site seeing and just stopped for the night at hotels cause you have younguns, then after getting lost the 2nd time you just kept driving.  However you did your very best to make it there. It just didn't happen. You fulfilled your commitment.

 

commitment

noun

 com·mit·ment \kə-ˈmit-mənt\

 

Simple Definition of commitment

: a promise to do or give something

: a promise to be loyal to someone or something

: the attitude of someone who works very hard to do or support something

 

Now a promise on the other hand is another story.  A promise is something that you keep forever.  You do NOT BREAK a promise.  Your word is your bond.

 

Full Definition of promise

1

a :  a declaration that one will do or refrain from doing something specified

b :  a legally binding declaration that gives the person to whom it is made a right to expect or to claim the performance or forbearance of a specified act

2

:  reason to expect something <little promise of relief>; especially :  ground for expectation of success, improvement, or excellence <shows considerable promise>

3

:  something that is promised

 

 

 

I PROMISE I AM TOWN

 

 

 

Come on she's a villager.

 

I want to believe I really do.

 

I feel like you're really being way too forgiving here. If you remove the name tag "Wildfire Sedai" and consider her actions then what do you say she is? 

 

This dont really work because its based on Wifi and her personality. 

[Cory Caboose]

I want to reread but I want confirmation re: Pral first so if everyone's checked in I'm fine with moving forward

 

Or if we want to wait for whatever reason, we can do that too

[Zander?]

fwiw if Crush is a wolf I would look harder at Cory. He would take an easy excuse to missclear a team mate like that.

 

It's been in my head.

 

Probably/hopefully not relevant.

 

Maybe.

 

If Cory is a Wolf tho is early Wifi would lead me to think theyre prolly not W/W.

 

Am I wrong in assuming this?

[Zander?]

 

Hallia are you going to break my heart :(

Cory.  Why would Mercy not be upset if someone died that was useful to town.

 

 

 

BECAUSE HEROES NEVER DIE

 

I dont get it.

[Cory Caboose]

basically nobody has the balls to village read me anymore.

 

sad.

[Cory Caboose]

Zander one of the pros to actually catching up on events before doing your PAGE BY PAGE CATCHUP is that you don't waste time and posts doing things like talking to dead people

[Zander?]

I figured since we are all waiting here and crusher had said something about nolder sleeping like he ate: which I guess is a lot and that the DL was probably some time in the wee hours for nolder that you would all get the pic without me having to caption it...thereby me not getting in trouble with nolder...    but NOOO you just had to ask...

 

This is prolly a lot of lolme but can you show me where he said that?

[Cory Caboose]

Like even just maybe reading the real-time posts around the posts you are currently posting that say

 

"hey stop doing this"

takes like a second, gives you more information FOR your read, eliminates useless thread clutter

[Zander?]

Heroes never die...but sometimes they have to leave the battlefield.

 

Hallia, Town Mercy, has been eliminated.

 

Day Power: Boost - Target players action cannot be blocked or redirected the next Night.

 

Night Power: Heroes Never Die! - (1x) Revive a random player, cannot be used on Night One. Their powers and abilities will be fully restored along with their life at the start of the next Day phase.

 

It is now Day.

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

And don't do nothing crazy because I gotta go out now apparently in few mins.

For those waiting on a spec thread I will make it later tonight.

 

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Well it makes sense to me now.

 

Im sorry HalliaGOAT <3 <3 <3

 

And I hate you all.

[Tiinker]

 

Heroes never die...but sometimes they have to leave the battlefield.

 

Hallia, Town Mercy, has been eliminated.

 

Day Power: Boost - Target players action cannot be blocked or redirected the next Night.

 

Night Power: Heroes Never Die! - (1x) Revive a random player, cannot be used on Night One. Their powers and abilities will be fully restored along with their life at the start of the next Day phase.

 

It is now Day.

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

And don't do nothing crazy because I gotta go out now apparently in few mins.

For those waiting on a spec thread I will make it later tonight.

 

sadface.gif

 

Well it makes sense to me now.

 

Im sorry HalliaGOAT <3 <3 <3

 

And I hate you all.

 

 

why don't you read the thread and then make posts after? It's like you're intentionally trying to make everyone else's job harder.

[Zander?]

It couldn't be used N1.  If a different villager had died and Pral's a wolf it would have had a 33% chance of screwing us hard.  I don't think her roles were a big loss.

 

[v]Pralaya[/v]

I have nothing exciting to report except that I'm pretty confident I wasn't targeted for a kill last night.

 

Im not following the first line, can you elaborate please?

 

darn....I always get her wrong...when I think she mafia she town, when I think she town she mafia...

 

 

 

Wait for everyone to check in before hammering cause of night stuff

 

Weird kill

 

Not weird if he was trying to set me up...but WHY ME?  Cause he already linked us in his reads list and by defending me.  I had hallia as my top scum read so...but I AM TOWN...damn him....and don't look at me weird...I know you all are thinking this...I am learning after all.

 

 

I swear to God youre gonna make my head explode this game.

 

 

Pral - why not just vote the wagon?

 

I have infinite trouble believing that if you had the time to submit the ninja vote that you couldn't make ONE post in the thread, especially since you'd read enough to know the wagon situation.

 

How difficult is it to say "I am going to vote Kat."

 

Should have, could have. Like I said, I did feel stupid how things panned out later.

 

I cannot just vote the wagon. And, I didn't realise at that time how it would be represented in the vote count. 

 

 

So youre saying you didnt think it was weird or something different was gonna happen when you had to PM Nolder your vote???

 

lolololololol

[Shad_]

 

fwiw if Crush is a wolf I would look harder at Cory. He would take an easy excuse to missclear a team mate like that.

 

It's been in my head.

 

Probably/hopefully not relevant.

 

Maybe.

 

If Cory is a Wolf tho is early Wifi would lead me to think theyre prolly not W/W.

 

Am I wrong in assuming this?

 

 

Wifi and Cory are never w/w.

 

With the dart thing?  With Wifi?  Not a chance.  She could have maybe done what she did as a wolf, but she did it for the reason she stated either way.

[Shad_]

basically nobody has the balls to village read me anymore.

 

sad.

 

All I heard about after Matrix was how dumb I was for giving you a clean village read. 

 

You're blue to me when you start lynching wolves and until then you're someone I am eager to cooperate with but will always look over my shoulder at.  I wouldn't set out to lynch you unless something felt very clearly off, so it's not a bad spot.

[Shad_]

 

I figured since we are all waiting here and crusher had said something about nolder sleeping like he ate: which I guess is a lot and that the DL was probably some time in the wee hours for nolder that you would all get the pic without me having to caption it...thereby me not getting in trouble with nolder...    but NOOO you just had to ask...

 

This is prolly a lot of lolme but can you show me where he said that?

 

That is the most villagery question ever.

 

Not joking.  I get what you are thinking here.

[Cory Caboose]

All I heard about after Matrix was how dumb I was for giving you a clean village read. 

 

I doubt you heard grief from me, as that fits perfectly into my recommendation of "always village read me and be right 70% of the time"

[Shad_]

 

It couldn't be used N1.  If a different villager had died and Pral's a wolf it would have had a 33% chance of screwing us hard.  I don't think her roles were a big loss.

 

[v]Pralaya[/v]

I have nothing exciting to report except that I'm pretty confident I wasn't targeted for a kill last night.

 

Im not following the first line, can you elaborate please?

 

Halli couldn't use the ability until N2. If Pral is a wolf that's 2 dead towns and 1 dead wolf assuming a villager other than Halli dies last night. So her ability would have a 33% chance of bringing a dead wolf back into the game and forcing us to waste a lynch on him.