[Basic] Disney Heroes vs. Villains Mafia C9++ Town Wins

[Shad_]

I couldn't care less about Sili suddenly flipping a read. He does it as town all the time. He knows this and it takes zero effort to replicate as a wolf. He's trying harder than I've seen him do as a wolf under pressure lately, and that gives me pause. I don't think he's reading as deeply into people as I'm used to, and that makes me worry. It's been a persistent thing, I think, and there's still a lot I need to read but suffice to say town!Sili is usually towards the top of my reads by now and he definitely hasn't gotten there in this game.

[Hallia]

Yes, it pinged to me.

[Sili Quirrels]

tbh i feel like giving up on this mess. it's popular to think i'm scum now, and everyone has different reasons.

 

and a few people have bad meta of me.

 

town's obviously messing up, and that's going to make it very easy for wolves to play.

 

i probably should be lynched atp. and besides i don't think i have a lot more patience in me.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lynching Sili today, if he/she flips town I'm lynching sooh tomorrow.

How on earth makes you think that me/Sili is v/w and can't be anything but that?

 

They voted you after a short exchange. Scum wouldn't put eachother through that.

 

I'm reading both of you as scum at the moment but I can only be right about one of you.

 

Could you be right about none of us?

 

I'm inclined to think no, he's right about one of you. Except I'm leaning more on Sili.

 

I'm inclined to think the same thing, obviously. I just don't like that I'm being basically held accountable for this lynch. "If you're wrong, then you must be scum"

 

That's not it.

 

I'm voting Sili because I think he/she is scummy and the best option for today.

 

Sili then has an exchange with you that isn't forced and in the end votes you.

 

This creates a dichotomy between the two of you where it's very unlikely that you are W/W. V/V is ruled out, to me, because I read both of you as scum.

 

V/W is the only combination that remains.

 

 

you're going to be lynched at some point in this game, and while i have no idea if you're a wolf or not, you deserve it.

 

I'm not gonna get lynched, don't worry about that.

 

Why would I deserve it?

 

because you're playing very badly. i think there are too many distractions right now, and playing badly doesn't make you a wolf anyway, but your bad reads are a weakness.

 

I don't agree, obviously, but feel free to carry that as a case against me.

 

So that I get what I deserve.

 

it's not  a case.

 

it's just my opinion of how the thread will interact with you going forward, at least until the wolves have voting majority or sway over the thread. if they do they  may keep you alive if you're town because your attitude is very +ev for them.

 

 

AM i just stuck in a ZanderTunnel or is this kinda like fear mongering towards Bel?

[Sili Quirrels]

I couldn't care less about Sili suddenly flipping a read. He does it as town all the time. He knows this and it takes zero effort to replicate as a wolf. He's trying harder than I've seen him do as a wolf under pressure lately, and that gives me pause. I don't think he's reading as deeply into people as I'm used to, and that makes me worry. It's been a persistent thing, I think, and there's still a lot I need to read but suffice to say town!Sili is usually towards the top of my reads by now and he definitely hasn't gotten there in this game.

'i'm not reading as deeply into people as you're used to'.

 

son, this game's been going on for a day or so, and i don't know what you expect, but i've never done more than i have this game.

[Shad_]

"It's popular to think I'm scum now" is a pretty meh attitude if you're a villager, because you're usually an easy read and someone I end up bouncing thoughts off of once we've reached a confident read on each other.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lynching Sili today, if he/she flips town I'm lynching sooh tomorrow.

How on earth makes you think that me/Sili is v/w and can't be anything but that?

 

They voted you after a short exchange. Scum wouldn't put eachother through that.

 

I'm reading both of you as scum at the moment but I can only be right about one of you.

 

Could you be right about none of us?

 

I'm inclined to think no, he's right about one of you. Except I'm leaning more on Sili.

 

I'm inclined to think the same thing, obviously. I just don't like that I'm being basically held accountable for this lynch. "If you're wrong, then you must be scum"

 

That's not it.

 

I'm voting Sili because I think he/she is scummy and the best option for today.

 

Sili then has an exchange with you that isn't forced and in the end votes you.

 

This creates a dichotomy between the two of you where it's very unlikely that you are W/W. V/V is ruled out, to me, because I read both of you as scum.

 

V/W is the only combination that remains.

 

 

you're going to be lynched at some point in this game, and while i have no idea if you're a wolf or not, you deserve it.

 

I'm not gonna get lynched, don't worry about that.

 

Why would I deserve it?

 

because you're playing very badly. i think there are too many distractions right now, and playing badly doesn't make you a wolf anyway, but your bad reads are a weakness.

 

I don't agree, obviously, but feel free to carry that as a case against me.

 

So that I get what I deserve.

 

it's not  a case.

 

it's just my opinion of how the thread will interact with you going forward, at least until the wolves have voting majority or sway over the thread. if they do they  may keep you alive if you're town because your attitude is very +ev for them.

 

 

AM i just stuck in a ZanderTunnel or is this kinda like fear mongering towards Bel?

 

f*k no it's me being pissed off at him.

[Hallia]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lynching Sili today, if he/she flips town I'm lynching sooh tomorrow.

How on earth makes you think that me/Sili is v/w and can't be anything but that?

They voted you after a short exchange. Scum wouldn't put eachother through that.

 

I'm reading both of you as scum at the moment but I can only be right about one of you.

Could you be right about none of us?

I'm inclined to think no, he's right about one of you. Except I'm leaning more on Sili.

I'm inclined to think the same thing, obviously. I just don't like that I'm being basically held accountable for this lynch. "If you're wrong, then you must be scum"

That's not it.

 

I'm voting Sili because I think he/she is scummy and the best option for today.

 

Sili then has an exchange with you that isn't forced and in the end votes you.

 

This creates a dichotomy between the two of you where it's very unlikely that you are W/W. V/V is ruled out, to me, because I read both of you as scum.

 

V/W is the only combination that remains.

you're going to be lynched at some point in this game, and while i have no idea if you're a wolf or not, you deserve it.

why would he deserve it?

 

it hes town man hes at least working it and if hes scum its pretty ballsy.

 

because his reads are absurd if you look at why he's making them. and he doesn't back down. it's incredibly obnoxious and destructive if he's wrong, which he definitely is about me.

 

and no, it's not ballsy if he's a wolf. it's cowardly. he's not competent enough to play like a villager so he goes for twtbaw.

Let's take a step back from the insults now, it's enough.

Not indicative of everyone here. So they him bother you. <3

[Zander?]

 

Just promise that you'll read my posts and Darthe's posts and not discount that you could also be wrong about things.

 

I don't think anything good comes out of reading Darthe's post, but you're of course entitled to your opinion.  

 

 

lolololol

[Sili Quirrels]

"It's popular to think I'm scum now" is a pretty meh attitude if you're a villager, because you're usually an easy read and someone I end up bouncing thoughts off of once we've reached a confident read on each other.

if i'm not an easy read you don't know how to read me.

[Hallia]

Don't let him*

 

Wtf autocorrect

[Sooh]

Sili, can you make a reads list where you gather your current thoughts? It would be helpful if they could contain some form of explanation how those reads formed as well. I just don't want you to get stuck in an argument where there's no way for you to show townieness, plus it would be helpful to have your reads somewhere anyway.

[Sili Quirrels]

Sili, can you make a reads list where you gather your current thoughts? It would be helpful if they could contain some form of explanation how those reads formed as well. I just don't want you to get stuck in an argument where there's no way for you to show townieness, plus it would be helpful to have your reads somewhere anyway.

everyones tunneling me, i'm not about to have a healthy readslist when im this tilted.

[Zander?]

What bothers me somewhat is that I'm scum reading both Sili and Tiinker, and I feel like it's a bit too easy. They have defended one another and Tiink jumped on Sili's Cass read far too easily. I am not sure it makes sense that they as a scum team would tie themselves together so openly.

 

/inb4sooh/sili/tinkscumteam

 

lolololololol

[Sooh]

 

Sili, can you make a reads list where you gather your current thoughts? It would be helpful if they could contain some form of explanation how those reads formed as well. I just don't want you to get stuck in an argument where there's no way for you to show townieness, plus it would be helpful to have your reads somewhere anyway.

everyones tunneling me, i'm not about to have a healthy readslist when im this tilted.

 

Take a break then, and create it. I'd really like you to.

[Hallia]

 

Sili, can you make a reads list where you gather your current thoughts? It would be helpful if they could contain some form of explanation how those reads formed as well. I just don't want you to get stuck in an argument where there's no way for you to show townieness, plus it would be helpful to have your reads somewhere anyway.

everyones tunneling me, i'm not about to have a healthy readslist when im this tilted.

Aka I'm scum and don't want to give away my partners

[Sooh]

 

What bothers me somewhat is that I'm scum reading both Sili and Tiinker, and I feel like it's a bit too easy. They have defended one another and Tiink jumped on Sili's Cass read far too easily. I am not sure it makes sense that they as a scum team would tie themselves together so openly.

 

/inb4sooh/sili/tinkscumteam

 

lolololololol

 

It'll be interesting by the end of this game to see who I/Darthe have NOT been connected with this game. I have seen a few combos already.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

i think cass is town

 

[unvote]

What changed?

 

me. i'm giving less weight to her reaching (in my estimation) to make reads, and i now understand that she didn't have meta on wifi.

 

 

You remember that time that guy called out Cass for backtracking?

 

apples and oranges mate.

 

 

Are both fruits.

 

Whats your point?

 

According to what you called backtracking irt Cass its pretty similar imo.

[Wildfire Sedai]

I have you as slight town sili

[Sooh]

Zander dropping truth bombs this game.

[Sooh]

Ok I need to go to bed. I hate to now that I'm so into it again, but if I'm supposed to have any chance of getting to work in the morning I'd better.

 

Byes.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

@Sooh

 

I just noticed, you have me as slight town or something of the like.

 

Why is that?

 

Feel free, if you want, to wait with answering this until you've read the entire thread.

I haven't seen anything up until page 44 which has made me think you're scummy. I am pretty ready now, 15 pages after I made that short reads list, to promote both you, Shander and Cass to my village as I've seen nothing to change my earlier vibes. 

 

 

5 townies + ourself in one sitting? Good one!

 

 

Correct me if im wrong but last game didnt it take you quite awhile to get early reads???

 

You were Town there as well iirc.

 

Define "quite a while". This game has been going on for a couple of days without me, and I've had the luxury of coming in late and being able to read a large chunk of the game in one sitting. That helps me, because I'm not consumed with the now. I can see thoughts forming much more easily when I get to read a larger portion of someone's thoughts. I tend to do better with my reads as a replacement in games or like now, coming in late.

 

 

Like i dunno having five seemingly decent town reads d1?

[Sooh]

 

 

 

 

@Sooh

 

I just noticed, you have me as slight town or something of the like.

 

Why is that?

 

Feel free, if you want, to wait with answering this until you've read the entire thread.

I haven't seen anything up until page 44 which has made me think you're scummy. I am pretty ready now, 15 pages after I made that short reads list, to promote both you, Shander and Cass to my village as I've seen nothing to change my earlier vibes. 

 

 

5 townies + ourself in one sitting? Good one!

 

 

Correct me if im wrong but last game didnt it take you quite awhile to get early reads???

 

You were Town there as well iirc.

 

Define "quite a while". This game has been going on for a couple of days without me, and I've had the luxury of coming in late and being able to read a large chunk of the game in one sitting. That helps me, because I'm not consumed with the now. I can see thoughts forming much more easily when I get to read a larger portion of someone's thoughts. I tend to do better with my reads as a replacement in games or like now, coming in late.

 

 

Like i dunno having five seemingly decent town reads d1?

 

Why not?

 

Just because some games I'm struggling doesn't mean I have to struggle every game.

[Sili Quirrels]

i dont even know whats the point lol. no ones going to read them after im gone. and it wont change anyones minds

 

i have ill developed reads and better developed reads.

 

wifi's town for speaking and thinking like how i'm used to. intuition yo. like she's very genuine about how much she tries to do well imo, and she does try to improve. it's very evident here.

 

zander and shad, idk, they've put me off for tunneling me. and maybe i was premature about my read of zander. idk.

 

hallia her reason for reading me scum seems like hallia, and i'll float the nyn boat.

 

sooh, wolfy opportunism, sketched me out. had a couple genuine posts. i'd have to observe her a little while longer to come to a stronger read of her atm.

 

believer - he has a persona on and it feels like a mask. probably a wolf imo, but caveat is i don't know his meta. you guys should investigate him at some point.

 

darthe - his tone is town, but what he says i think is in his wolf range. it means little.

 

aj - if he has bite you should read him as town. if he says a bunch of things i find sketch ill read him town. i know thats ironic but whatever.

 

tinker - if he's really been buddying me so steadfast then he's a wolf. arguing witht beleiver may have just been a ploy but i'm not sure. it may be that only one of them can be a wolf.

 

celeste - keeping to the background

 

kat - get the sense they're posting a lot of fluff. but like i've scanned one or two posts only.

[Zander?]

 

 

 

 

I AM CAUGHT UP!

*applause*

 

Don't forget to catch your breath. :)

 

Lol

 

It wasn't the worst.

 

I guess our vote is still on you.

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Sili[/v]

 

 

If Sooh is Scum, you think she's Scum with SIli???

 

uh?

 

First of all, who is this for? And, was that a thought that crossed your mind?

 

 

everyone and prolly.