Beyond the Wall - Game Thread - GAME OVER

[Wildfire Sedai]

my reads were scattered throughout the day....I don't even remember them and to be honest they are old anyway....I would have to do another reads list for you..which means more ISO's and stuff.....

[Kaylee]

Ok well I look forward to reading it.

[SiRReN]

@Wildfire I think you said this is your second game, right? That reason was so cute and innocent.

[Hallia]

What are you guys even talking about? I am less comfortable voting Dice because of Jon Snow's vote on him. I am suspicious of him, that's it.

[Wildfire Sedai]

kaylee who are you subbing for again....????  I'm just too lazy to look all the way back and find it myself....

[Kaylee]

What are you guys even talking about? I am less comfortable voting Dice because of Jon Snow's vote on him. I am suspicious of him, that's it.

I'm talking about your quote I have. It says you were town reading Dice but now that a bit shaky due to the Celeste flip. I used your words and asked you to explain. Now you're not shaky on him? Please clarify.

[Kaylee]

kaylee who are you subbing for again....???? I'm just too lazy to look all the way back and find it myself....

I'm the new Sooh.

[dicetosser1]

 

@tress

 

 

you were right i was wondering :D   

 

but seriously  do you honestly think im gonna fake claim ROLE COP to get out of a lynch?  

 

Puh-leez. That's WIFOM and you know it.

 

 

No its not. there is NO WAY i claim what is pretty much ALWAYS a scum role here to try and get out of a lynch. Thats suicide

 

Plus that was a question to see what tress said

 

you seem pretty intent on discrediting me

 

 

Sorry Kaylee, basic recap:

 

AJ, Lenlo, Shad and I were pretty firm on wanting to lynch Zander day 1, and others agreed. Dice was defending Zander but claims he wasn't town reading him. He just thought all of us wanting to lynch Zander was scummy. Some people didn't want to lynch Zander, but they had no other alternative suggestions. Kat came in last minute with a vote and several people didn't like it, so Kat got CFD'd and flipped Fool. 

 

We're all pretty sure we're gonna lynch either Zander/Celeste (subbed in for zander) or Dice Day 2. Phase change happens and AJ, Celeste, and Sili were all killed in the night. AJ flipped Mason Jester Survivor, Celeste flipped SK, and Sili flipped mafia. Pretty much confirms for Lenlo, Shad and I that we were both right and wrong about Zander/Celeste (they weren't town) and wanted to lynch Dice. Dice has claimed he is a Mason Role Cop, that his Mason is alive (and may claim), and the he saw Shad's role as goon, which would make him mafia.

 

Debate right now seems to be do we believe Dice (Lenlo says if Dice was gonna lie, why not pick a role that is always town, like doc or regular cop, but some [definitely myself and Shad] find it weird that Dice would have chosen to investigate Shad, who was kind of a consensus town read]). Dice has already explained why he chose Shad, so now it kind of seems like a matter of who to believe. I suggested the possibility of insane cops, but Dice claimed role cop anyway. 

 

if ure gonna recap and say what i did you might want to get it right

 

 

@ KAYLEE

 

I voted sirren cause of her talking about going thru with what they were planning. I think it was a slip.

 

I got ina  huge argument with Len. For me it was about LEN not Zander. Zander was the reason for it. tho  everyone was set on lynching zander. thought he was scum. he HAD been weird. Len had said he thought we would get good things if we lynched zander.  i asked him and aj what we got if zander flipped town. Lenlo couldnt/wouldnt answer the questions. eventually he said nothing. What I was attacking was lenlos thinking. to me he seemed far too focussed on zander  so very sure  that i was thinking it was scum thinking

 

AJ suggested a cfd on kat   it went ahead   she selfvoted  i voted her for 

Shad comes in after the lynch talking about how he was going to lynch me tomorrow. He was scummy as setting up lynches like that and he can trick me so i viewed him and got GOON  and it was coloured red

 

 

 

 

Yeah, you guys keep saying you wouldn't put anything past Darthe. It's why I'm pretty much convinced there's more to Dice than just a Mason Role Cop :/

Just...The dude made a game with like 3-4 mafia teams. Each one with different powers.

 

 

I already know this game is cracked. he made me a mason role cop for crying out loud

 

 

I just woke up and have a lot of work ahead of me before I can really sit down. Just a few points for anyone who seriously doubts this:

 

I've been a Mason with Dice before. He wanted to claim the entire game and I had to continually talk him out of it. He doesn't see it as some terrible thing that a villager only does as a last ditch effort.

 

He role and character claimed with zero hesitation but he's super defensive about revealing his Mason. If he was a town mason with a red peek on me he would know he's dead tonight and clearing his partner would be the most important thing on his mind today after getting me lynched.

 

The only other explicitly Mason flip in the game was not a villager.  Sili and Zander were teamed as wolf and SK.  We already have reason to believe Dice can be a wolf Mason.  The fact that he refuses to reveal who pretty much guarantees this unless he's lying about the role in the first place.

 

Mafia have fake claims or else character names are not alignment indicative or else character reveals are not allowed. This has been true in every game I have ever played on DM as far as I can remember. Claiming Bran is worth exactly nothing.

 

He keeps pushing that he has to be town because he wouldn't claim Role Cop as a wolf. That is massively WIFOM and pretty much every wolf you've ever seen claim a PR that can be mafia has said something along these lines.

 

Dice played the Zander topic D1 exactly the same as he played Sooh in Dragon Reborn when Dice was a wolf, and anyone who takes 5 minutes to ISO that game will recognize it.

 

What Dice is pulling on me is literally the exact same thing a wolf pulled on him in Lost.  It's not some wild "wow never expected Dice to do that" play.  It's something that just happened to him and he came into this game intensely aware of its effectiveness.

 

I've been an obvious villager all game and Dice has been playing right in line to his wolf meta and plenty of you recognized this prior to his claim.

 

He was straight-up lolcatting at me last night.  I called him out for not addressing any of my D1 concerns like six times and when he finally acknowledged that I was doing this I quoted them for him and he literally pretended I didn't.

 

 

cant find the quote huh shad?

 

 

He's been wavering back and forth between still trying and openly wolfing and this is really freakin obvious.

 

Anyone who is hesitant to lynch him today had better have a good answer for all of these points.  Especially Hallia and Lenlo.

 

 

Nice spin. nice touch with quoting me out of context pages after too

 

That quote of mine is talking about the fact that i told Shad or Len to find me a quote where i said Zander was town. Shad just keeps reposting the same quotes at mne but not one that says i said zander was town

 

 

red  if you think im gonna openly claim mason at start of day when my role is Role cop  youre nuts!

 

red 2   no im not  i asked them to claim. i am waiting for a response. I dont want to claim FOR them  I even said to lenlo  is it ok if i go ask them. so ure a deadset liar there   

 

Blue  AJs name was green the word Mason was BLUE  which is usually town colour. it didnt actually say an anlignment for him iirc

 

Did you read the OP?  

 

 

 

Day One

 

"Grandpa, please tell me the story?  Please?"

 

Darthe sat slowly down into the chair by his grandsons bed and looked at the boy with all the love in the world.  He loved this story, and he knew by now that it was only to be told a few times.  It was a secret, you see?  After a few moments of that stare though Darthe relented with a small smile and sat back to begin. 

 

"Once upon a time there was a great war between the forces of light and dark.  You may have heard this take told before, but tonight I promise you it will be different.  You see, son, most folks think it's as simple as light and dark but I think you're at an age to know the truth.  There's no such thing as good, or evil, or light, or dark boy.  I love you dearly, but heed me now.  We all have both in our hearts and it is to us that the decision falls.  Who can say how a man makes that choice?"

"Grandpa, you're weird sometimes."

 

"Do you want me to tell the story or not?"  The little boy pulled his covers up to his mouth and nodded.

 

Darthe gave him a soft smile. "It's alright, let's begin.  There once was a great war between good and evil, light and dark.  The world was a much harder place in that time and even those of the light were a rough people, prone to infighting and cruelty.  

"Despite this they had come together when they realized that this great shadow was coming to eclipse the land, and now the peoples of their world stood together in uneasy truces to face the hordes of death that crawled down from beyond the great cold mountains in the North.  One, a boy named Bran, was much like yourself save for one key difference.  Bran had a kind of magic.  Bran could see the flow of time itself.  This night, not a week before the great war was to happen, Bran went to sleep to see his visions and discovered a horrible truth.  That very week, before even the first arrow was fired, betrayal would eat their camp.  Bran awoke in a cold sweat that night and summoned together a counsel of their leaders to reveal his vision.  When he did, these men decided that they must take action.  They must root out this evil before it consumed them.

 

"It is here that our story begins child.  Their discussion went like this:"

 

It is now day ONE.  You have 72 hours.

 

[dicetosser1]

continuing cause that was going weird

 

So you think i fake claimed the main NAMED IN THE OP character?  and noones ccd it?  get real  even Darthe wouldnt do that

[Kaylee]

Dice sounding better but not sure if it's enough for me to vote elsewhere.

 

Dice: did you ask your partner and what did they say?

[Kaylee]

continuing cause that was going weird

 

So you think i fake claimed the main NAMED IN THE OP character? and noones ccd it? get real even Darthe wouldnt do that

I put nothing past Darthe.

[John Snow]

 

 

@tress

 

 

you were right i was wondering :D   

 

but seriously  do you honestly think im gonna fake claim ROLE COP to get out of a lynch?  

 

Puh-leez. That's WIFOM and you know it.

 

 

No its not. there is NO WAY i claim what is pretty much ALWAYS a scum role here to try and get out of a lynch. Thats suicide

 

-snip-

 

Mmm. And that's why you have already been lynched. Oh wait. It's like it's working.

 

So, yes, it is WIFOM

[dicetosser1]

 

He keeps pushing that he has to be town because he wouldn't claim Role Cop as a wolf. That is massively WIFOM and pretty much every wolf you've ever seen claim a PR that can be mafia has said something along these lines.

 

Dice played the Zander topic D1 exactly the same as he played Sooh in Dragon Reborn when Dice was a wolf, and anyone who takes 5 minutes to ISO that game will recognize it.

 

What Dice is pulling on me is literally the exact same thing a wolf pulled on him in Lost.  It's not some wild "wow never expected Dice to do that" play.  It's something that just happened to him and he came into this game intensely aware of its effectiveness.

 

I've been an obvious villager all game and Dice has been playing right in line to his wolf meta and plenty of you recognized this prior to his claim.

 

He was straight-up lolcatting at me last night.  I called him out for not addressing any of my D1 concerns like six times and when he finally acknowledged that I was doing this I quoted them for him and he literally pretended I didn't.

 

 

cant find the quote huh shad?

 

 

He's been wavering back and forth between still trying and openly wolfing and this is really freakin obvious.

 

Anyone who is hesitant to lynch him today had better have a good answer for all of these points.  Especially Hallia and Lenlo.

 

 

took out what i already responded to.

 

red   really?  well seeing as your paranoid enuff to go looking for things to use against me  maybe ure right. I dont recall what i did with sooh  but i would guess i town read her  which i DIDNT do here to zander. thing is Im not scum here. YOU ARE.

 

blue    no its not. Zander fake claimed a peek on me.  Im not faking.

 

geen    right caue you know mafia NEVER manage a good D1 where they seem town do they?

 

Your points have no validity and yep therte was a certain amount of lolcatting   i have you hooked. You arnt getting away and im enjoying ure wriggling trying to

[SiRReN]

 

Sorry Kaylee, basic recap:

 

AJ, Lenlo, Shad and I were pretty firm on wanting to lynch Zander day 1, and others agreed. Dice was defending Zander but claims he wasn't town reading him. He just thought all of us wanting to lynch Zander was scummy. Some people didn't want to lynch Zander, but they had no other alternative suggestions. Kat came in last minute with a vote and several people didn't like it, so Kat got CFD'd and flipped Fool. 

 

We're all pretty sure we're gonna lynch either Zander/Celeste (subbed in for zander) or Dice Day 2. Phase change happens and AJ, Celeste, and Sili were all killed in the night. AJ flipped Mason Jester Survivor, Celeste flipped SK, and Sili flipped mafia. Pretty much confirms for Lenlo, Shad and I that we were both right and wrong about Zander/Celeste (they weren't town) and wanted to lynch Dice. Dice has claimed he is a Mason Role Cop, that his Mason is alive (and may claim), and the he saw Shad's role as goon, which would make him mafia.

 

Debate right now seems to be do we believe Dice (Lenlo says if Dice was gonna lie, why not pick a role that is always town, like doc or regular cop, but some [definitely myself and Shad] find it weird that Dice would have chosen to investigate Shad, who was kind of a consensus town read]). Dice has already explained why he chose Shad, so now it kind of seems like a matter of who to believe. I suggested the possibility of insane cops, but Dice claimed role cop anyway. 

 

if ure gonna recap and say what i did you might want to get it right

 

 

@ KAYLEE

 

I voted sirren cause of her talking about going thru with what they were planning. I think it was a slip.

 

I got ina  huge argument with Len. For me it was about LEN not Zander. Zander was the reason for it. tho  everyone was set on lynching zander. thought he was scum. he HAD been weird. Len had said he thought we would get good things if we lynched zander.  i asked him and aj what we got if zander flipped town. Lenlo couldnt/wouldnt answer the questions. eventually he said nothing. What I was attacking was lenlos thinking. to me he seemed far too focussed on zander  so very sure  that i was thinking it was scum thinking

 

AJ suggested a cfd on kat   it went ahead   she selfvoted  i voted her for 

Shad comes in after the lynch talking about how he was going to lynch me tomorrow. He was scummy as setting up lynches like that and he can trick me so i viewed him and got GOON  and it was coloured red

 

 

 

I thought my summary was pretty fair. I'm sorry I didn't include the fact that you'd voted for me, but you had and apparently are still misinterpreting what I said. I'm not going to explain it again because I've already done it like, three times.

What I did write isn't wrong though - you were suspicious of all of us voting Zander, but have said repeatedly it's not because you thought Zander was town. I said that.

 

I'm pretty convinced you're in some kind of group with Zander/Celeste, and thus also with Sili, because there's zero other reason why you would have stuck your neck out so far for him. Like, I get that he has RL stuff going on, but you only need to say it once. If people keep going after him its no skin off your back, unless it IS skin off your back (ie. you're in some kind of group with him).

[John Snow]

continuing cause that was going weird

 

So you think i fake claimed the main NAMED IN THE OP character?  and noones ccd it?  get real  even Darthe wouldnt do that

 

I don't think Bran is in the game.

[dicetosser1]

 

continuing cause that was going weird

 

So you think i fake claimed the main NAMED IN THE OP character? and noones ccd it? get real even Darthe wouldnt do that

I put nothing past Darthe.

 

 

 

oh gimme a break kaylee !  that would be Bastard and you know it.

[dicetosser1]

if my mason hasnt claimed by midday my time    thats 5 1/2 hrs from now I will tell you.

[dicetosser1]

 

continuing cause that was going weird

 

So you think i fake claimed the main NAMED IN THE OP character?  and noones ccd it?  get real  even Darthe wouldnt do that

 

I don't think Bran is in the game.

 

 

are you serious?

[Kaylee]

Not really. I've seen where opening scenes had characters that either weren't in it or were a fake claim. Mostly they're for flavor unless the Mod states otherwise.

[dicetosser1]

 

 

Sorry Kaylee, basic recap:

 

AJ, Lenlo, Shad and I were pretty firm on wanting to lynch Zander day 1, and others agreed. Dice was defending Zander but claims he wasn't town reading him. He just thought all of us wanting to lynch Zander was scummy. Some people didn't want to lynch Zander, but they had no other alternative suggestions. Kat came in last minute with a vote and several people didn't like it, so Kat got CFD'd and flipped Fool. 

 

We're all pretty sure we're gonna lynch either Zander/Celeste (subbed in for zander) or Dice Day 2. Phase change happens and AJ, Celeste, and Sili were all killed in the night. AJ flipped Mason Jester Survivor, Celeste flipped SK, and Sili flipped mafia. Pretty much confirms for Lenlo, Shad and I that we were both right and wrong about Zander/Celeste (they weren't town) and wanted to lynch Dice. Dice has claimed he is a Mason Role Cop, that his Mason is alive (and may claim), and the he saw Shad's role as goon, which would make him mafia.

 

Debate right now seems to be do we believe Dice (Lenlo says if Dice was gonna lie, why not pick a role that is always town, like doc or regular cop, but some [definitely myself and Shad] find it weird that Dice would have chosen to investigate Shad, who was kind of a consensus town read]). Dice has already explained why he chose Shad, so now it kind of seems like a matter of who to believe. I suggested the possibility of insane cops, but Dice claimed role cop anyway. 

 

if ure gonna recap and say what i did you might want to get it right

 

 

@ KAYLEE

 

I voted sirren cause of her talking about going thru with what they were planning. I think it was a slip.

 

I got ina  huge argument with Len. For me it was about LEN not Zander. Zander was the reason for it. tho  everyone was set on lynching zander. thought he was scum. he HAD been weird. Len had said he thought we would get good things if we lynched zander.  i asked him and aj what we got if zander flipped town. Lenlo couldnt/wouldnt answer the questions. eventually he said nothing. What I was attacking was lenlos thinking. to me he seemed far too focussed on zander  so very sure  that i was thinking it was scum thinking

 

AJ suggested a cfd on kat   it went ahead   she selfvoted  i voted her for 

Shad comes in after the lynch talking about how he was going to lynch me tomorrow. He was scummy as setting up lynches like that and he can trick me so i viewed him and got GOON  and it was coloured red

 

 

 

I thought my summary was pretty fair. I'm sorry I didn't include the fact that you'd voted for me, but you had and apparently are still misinterpreting what I said. I'm not going to explain it again because I've already done it like, three times.

What I did write isn't wrong though - you were suspicious of all of us voting Zander, but have said repeatedly it's not because you thought Zander was town. I said that.

 

I'm pretty convinced you're in some kind of group with Zander/Celeste, and thus also with Sili, because there's zero other reason why you would have stuck your neck out so far for him. Like, I get that he has RL stuff going on, but you only need to say it once. If people keep going after him its no skin off your back, unless it IS skin off your back (ie. you're in some kind of group with him).

 

 

just how MANY times do i have to say it was about LENS THINKING not Zanders play before it seeps thru sirren?  how many? tell me cause then i will post it that many times and will then expect you to remember it

[Kaylee]

if my mason hasnt claimed by midday my time thats 5 1/2 hrs from now I will tell you.

I'd appreciate that. Makes me a bit more willing to believe you.

[John Snow]

Not really. I've seen where opening scenes had characters that either weren't in it or were a fake claim. Mostly they're for flavor unless the Mod states otherwise.

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[dicetosser1]

Not really. I've seen where opening scenes had characters that either weren't in it or were a fake claim. Mostly they're for flavor unless the Mod states otherwise.

 

just lynch the damned scum!!!!!

 

how friggin hard is it!?

 

 

Tell me kaylee how i win here. hmm??  I claim a role i KNOW is usually an instalynch. I give a scum finding on someone being townread all day.  I KNOW that people are gonna be disbelieving  so i PURPOSELY dont vierw len  I KNOW that if shad flips town im dead.

 

 

tell me   seeing as i know that WHY WOULD I DO IT?? and why would i push it this hard?  if i was jester i coulda just done it sat back and got lynched

 

so WHY kaylee? What do i GAIN here?

[John Snow]

 

Not really. I've seen where opening scenes had characters that either weren't in it or were a fake claim. Mostly they're for flavor unless the Mod states otherwise.

 

just lynch the damned scum!!!!!

 

how friggin hard is it!?

 

 

Tell me kaylee how i win here. hmm??  I claim a role i KNOW is usually an instalynch. I give a scum finding on someone being townread all day.  I KNOW that people are gonna be disbelieving  so i PURPOSELY dont vierw len  I KNOW that if shad flips town im dead.

 

 

tell me   seeing as i know that WHY WOULD I DO IT?? and why would i push it this hard?  if i was jester i coulda just done it sat back and got lynched

 

so WHY kaylee? What do i GAIN here?

 

Another townie mislynch before you die. You waste another day for town when there's multiple NKs. 

 

And you've played the WIFOM of your roleclaim and you know it. 

[Wildfire Sedai]

Official mod count: 2

 

Official Vote Count:

 

Dice (3/7): sirren, shad, js

Shad(1/7): dice

 

Not voting(8/12):

Hally, Len, BFG, PB, Tress, Kaylee, Wildfire, PbF.

 

Deadline is tomorrow at 7PM EST.

 

Sirren - town - cause she has been asking a lot of questions and really putting herself out there

shad - town - same thing as above except hes a boy....and theres the question of whether he is scum if Dices claim is true??

Lenlo - town - same

 

nulls: not enough info for me yet....

Hally

BFG

tress

Kaylee

Pbf

js

 

scummy: just not feeling it  :/

dice