Beyond the Wall - Game Thread - GAME OVER

[Shad_]

He could be a Jester.  He's not a villager.

If he was a Jester he'd probably have just let his lynch run on through without interference.

[dicetosser1]

So my last mafia read comes out and claims one of my town reads is scum. Oh, and he's conveniently a mason, but only after a mason has flipped. And this is only after he's getting speedlynched. 

 

[v]Dice[/v]

 

I mean, c'mon. This attempt to save his own skin is laughable.

 

You outting yourself itt are you snow?  

 

 

See, then Jon comes in and votes Dice.  I don't think that makes me feel comfortable.

 

Doesnt make you feel comfy about who?

 

 

Zander was really scummy because he was a SK and he treated the slot like a wolf and he's been an obvious wolf lately.

 

Dice assumed Zander was a villager and talked about him like he was guaranteed to flip town because Dice is mafia and assumed Zander would flip town.  Like, he did this exact same thing with Sooh with the same out-of-game focus last time he randed wolf.  I thought it might be hard defending a team mate because Zander looked awful independently, but the pieces fit.

 

 

@SHAD OR LENLO   find me a quotewhere i said zander was town. not  where i said if he flipped town  one where i said he WAS.

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wanna bet?? you dont wanna get viewed??  dont go trying to set up the next days lynch on the actual cop.

 

2 i told you VERBATIM i am NEVER mafia this game.

Ok so, address any of the issues I raised with you that you've been avoiding for the past 48 hours in favor of asking everyone what they will do when Zander flips town?

 

lol SK though

 

lulz Dice

 

Any day now...

[Hallia]

About you being scum, Dice.

[dicetosser1]

i already answered you

 

I never called him town. I did say that i agreed celste sounded like frustrated town but thats as close as i got.

 

I never made an actual read on that slot. People were whinging BECAUSE i wouldnt.

 

 

 

So would you like to requote that anymore Shad Outted Scum??

[dicetosser1]

About you being scum, Dice.

 

Why does Snows stupidity make you think worse of me?

 

like seriously hally   what do you want of me??  I claimed. I even claimed the main character in the OP. I am unCCd   even scumshad isnt going there. I have a mason to confirm. I FOUND SCUM N1 !!!   what the hell more do you want?

[Shad_]

You're probably just lolcatting and I'm too tired to not play along atp.

[Shad_]

oh I'll pull them up

[dicetosser1]

 

When I start? Have I done this before?

 

Basically its like this:

I thought Dice was a wolf because of his treatment of the Zander slot. Well Zander wasnt a wolf. But Sili was. And they were both in alpha brood so it says. That confuses me.

I want to lynch Dice. Dice comes in with a claim that makes no sense, as any alignment. I dont see what alignment fake claims here. Least not with a Role Cop.

 

Its like.. its so ridiculous I want to believe it, because the alternative is Dice is making a stupid play? And I dont think Dice makes stupid plays.

No offense to Dice but

 

 

and btw  i DO find that a bit offensive. If i was going to fake claim I wouldnt claim a role thats usually scum.

 

give me a little more credit than THAT plz.

[dicetosser1]

oh I'll pull them up

 

good.  make sure you dont edit them cause I WILL check

 

 

and I dont NEED to lolcat

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and I agree with sili that if you thought z was a wolf why the hesitation voting him? why give celeste time? I KNOW that doesnt always happen i subbed for hallia once i think it was her and was walking right into the lynch. like 4 hrs or something later im dead.

 

leaving my vote there

Your slot had already been peeked red in that game.

 

(What kind of jerk mod subs someone into a peeked wolf slot? )

 

I absolutely don't get the issue with giving a fresh sub time to contribute when we have 24 hours left on the clock anyway.

 

Honestly I don't get any of this.

 

Correct me if I'm tracking this wrong:

 

You think Zander is null at worst on his own merit, and you think the push on him is scummy so implicitly he's probably villa.

 

A player who had been pushing to lynch him now wants to reconsider and not rush the matter before giving the sub a chance.

 

This bothers you enough to progress from a suss to a locked vote.

 

Do you think Zander's a wolf now?

 

Like, I could see you thinking Sirren's post was a manner of testing the water to see if she could still push a lynch through now that a sub's come in, but her indecisive 'should I give it time or vote anyway?' approach isn't what you're taking issue with. Your issue is that she even considered backing off for a bit.

 

What I'm basically taking away from this is that you think Sirren is scummy for not encouraging a speed lynch on a player who you think is a villager. :???:

 

 

 

I don't know, I think Dice has been barking up the wrong tree quite a bit in this game and on the one hand it's usually a good look when he's off in left field doing his own thing, on the other it feels a little opportunistic.  Like a matter of trying to defend hard without looking like you're defending hard by actually going after the people pushing the lynch instead of just defending.

 

/shrug

 

Kind of want to see a Z flip before I put too much thought into it.

 

im not actually defending zander you know.  i havent given one reason why he is town. Im taking issue with lenlos thinking and a post of sirrens  not people wanting to lynch zander

 

and to another question from u   yeah i think you missed something. I quoted sirrens post and highlighted the whole planning bit when i voted her. Also said about since when does town have a plan?  she responded to me after which i said i was leaving my vote

 

Red, I just don't see how you can have all of these reads revolving around the treatment of Zander and yet have no opinion on his slot at this point.  I mean you've called multiple players scummy for their pushes on Zander.  If you're a villager, you should think the slot is > rand town at this point even if you consider it null on its own merits, unless you think he was heavily bussed, which I assume you would have stated at this point.  So defending him isn't a bad thing under these circumstances and I don't see why you'd deny it.  If you're a wolf and Zander is a villager, I think you'd be pretty chill with letting his lynch go through.  Neither is the case here.  You're sort of distancing from him by insisting you don't have an opinion on him while still sussing the people who push him.  That feels like a wolf defending a team mate.  The fact that you're denying any sort of defense is part of the issue.

 

 

Blue, I did see you highlight a particular statement and I didn't really understand why at the time.  You literally just said "Wanna tell me how town can carry on with what they were planning? Vote: Sirren".  I took your next post as a follow-through, not a second point.  If your an issue was specifically her use of the word "planning"...  ok?  I'll grant that you didn't change your reasoning mid-stride then, but it's weak to the point that I didn't even interpret it as one at the time.

 

I guess I've never been shy to call things as they are and it doesn't bother me when others do.  Zander was the most likely person to be the D1 lynch at the time she posted.  Calling it the "plan" is just stating reality and if anything demonstrates a lack of concern for how other players perceive you.  That you don't see it this way isn't necessarily bothersome, though I wish you'd been more explicit, but it doesn't really resolve my concern about your second point--the whole business of town!Sirren should have just voted him and not waited for Celeste to start posting.

 

 

and yet again I didnt defend Zander. I attacked the people voting him for things they said way they seemed to be thinking. At some point are you going to understand that?

You keep restating this without addressing my issue. It doesn't make sense to have no thoughts on Z's slot when you've been sussing people for their approach to that slot.

 

Like, "man, a bunch of scummy people are making an opportunistic push to lynch Zander while he's afk. I think Zander's been heavily spewed null at this point."

 

A villager doesn't think that.

 

A villager doesn't have no thoughts on the slot at this point.

 

Do you understand my concern here?

 

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And that beautiful vote on Kat after she self-voted.

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So would you like to requote that anymore Shad Outted Scum??

make sure you dont edit them cause I WILL check

must... stop... feeding... trolls...

[Shad_]

God I am tired

[Shad_]

I can't look at a screen without passing out anymore.  Later

[dicetosser1]

cant find the quote huh shad?

[dicetosser1]

@tress

 

 

you were right i was wondering :D   

 

but seriously  do you honestly think im gonna fake claim ROLE COP to get out of a lynch?  

[Darthe]

Hey folks, a few of you have pointed out to me that I had sili listed in both the alpha and gamma broods!

 

Im bad at this now apparently, he was in alpha.

[Darthe]

*faceless man*

 

Kaylee replaces sooh!

[SiRReN]

Woo, 'nother replacement!

 

I have never been in a game that had so many replacements, but I guess that comes from having larger games. We usually play with the same 8 people on VS every game. We're like...an incestuous little family.

 

Funny story, one of the members there went several months or maybe a year (?? Balrog, how long was it?) only signing up as replacements to test a theory that only scum subs out. If I'm not mistaken he was subbed into mafia roles the most.

 

Wonder if the stats are the same for here...

[Hallia]

 

About you being scum, Dice.

Why does Snows stupidity make you think worse of me?

 

like seriously hally what do you want of me?? I claimed. I even claimed the main character in the OP. I am unCCd even scumshad isnt going there. I have a mason to confirm. I FOUND SCUM N1 !!! what the hell more do you want?

You misunderstand me. It means i feel LESS likely that you are scum

[Hallia]

 

About you being scum, Dice.

Why does Snows stupidity make you think worse of me?

 

like seriously hally what do you want of me?? I claimed. I even claimed the main character in the OP. I am unCCd even scumshad isnt going there. I have a mason to confirm. I FOUND SCUM N1 !!! what the hell more do you want?

You misunderstand me. It means i feel LESS likely that you are scum

[Hallia]

Tell me how you really feel, double post.

[Kaylee]

Hello all, quick check in. Will here from now on as best as I can. Can't catch up told Darthe that before accepting to fill in. Someone give me a brief what's what? I saw we have two bad guys dead, a mafia and a serial killer I think it said. Two in green as well so not too bad off for D2.

[Punished Balrog]

Woo, 'nother replacement!

 

I have never been in a game that had so many replacements, but I guess that comes from having larger games. We usually play with the same 8 people on VS every game. We're like...an incestuous little family.

 

Funny story, one of the members there went several months or maybe a year (?? Balrog, how long was it?) only signing up as replacements to test a theory that only scum subs out. If I'm not mistaken he was subbed into mafia roles the most.

 

Wonder if the stats are the same for here...

Something like that.

 

And despite that hard raw data, no one will ever follow me to a replacement lynch. Its a shame.

 

Lying as wolf makes no sense, cause he always dies. Better to claim actual cop. Or Doc. Or a role that ISNT normally associated with wolves.

This was the exact same line of thinking that I and think a couple others had in Cory's Spooky Haunted House game, when SiRReN claimed Town!Role Cop and it let her live long enough to get to the final 3 and convince some poor sap it wasn't her.

:/