[Basic] I <3 the 90's Mafia: Music Edition - TOWN WINS!

June 12, 2016

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BFG · June 12, 2016

On 6/12/2016 at 10:48 PM, BlomBesie said:

Could you please explain why Lily and Kat are cleared? Is it because they've been pushing Wish?

If we look at it that way, then Kat was doing the pushing and Lily was sheeping her - so do they both really look good?

I've not iso'd either of them so I just want to understand your (Hallia & BFG) thoughts on this

Kat ISO'd a case on wistork when nobody was really looking that way, Lily breaking the wagons today and headed in that direction looks really good for her as well.

Wishtork voting you over Dice (town) Day 2 looks pretty good for you as well.

LilyElizabeth · June 12, 2016

I was so excited that I was right on Wish that I didn't read that part. *sheepish grin*

June 12, 2016

I understand the one on Kat and I'm inclined to agree.

I'm slightly more hesitant on Lily. I think I'll still like to iso her sometime, but it's not a priority.

I'm a quarter of the way with Lenlo's iso - should finish his tomorrow night if all goes as planned. Really going to bed now though. It's 1 am.

BFG · June 12, 2016

Dice (6): BFG, Liz, Clov, Lenlo, Hallia, Lily

Besie (4): Darthe, Kat, Wistork, Sili

Wistork (1): Niniel

Kat (1): Besie

Lenlo (1): Dice

Not voting: Laine

BFG · June 12, 2016

Ok, I won't get round to reading for spew analysis till tomorrow night, but I'll try to do votes tonight, at least from Day 1

Katiora · June 12, 2016

On 6/12/2016 at 10:16 PM, keyholder21 said:

Wish-tree has been modkilled.

She was: Mafia Goon.

Do NOT discuss reasoning for modkill.

It is now Night.

Night deadline to come momentarily.

Yassssss

FINALLY!!!!!!!

Shew

Lenlo · June 12, 2016

The modkill caused night?

Also dang. Didnt expect that flip.

Ill ISO Wish tonight, once im done with my french homework. See if we can find her teammates.

Hallia · June 12, 2016

On 6/12/2016 at 11:17 PM, Lenlo said:

The modkill caused night?

Also dang. Didnt expect that flip.

Ill ISO Wish tonight, once im done with my french homework. See if we can find her teammates.

tu as besoin d'aide? :tongue:

BFG · June 13, 2016

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On 6/8/2016 at 3:12 AM, keyholder21 said:

Official Vote Count:

Zander (2) - Niniel, alannalynn

Niniel (2) - Hallia, Zander,

Lenlo (2) - Clov, Sili

Sili (1) - Lenlo

Seph (2) - Darthe, Wistork

Not Voting (6) - Besie, BFG, Katiora, Lily, Lizabeth, Seph, dice

DEADLINE: Wednesday, June 8, 4:30pm CST

On 6/8/2016 at 4:06 AM, Lenlo said:

[unvote][v]Seph[/v]

All the trains.

On 6/8/2016 at 6:35 AM, BlomBesie said:

I'm quite happy to climb on the seph wagon for now.

[v]Seph[/v]

On 6/8/2016 at 7:12 AM, Clovdyx said:
[v]Niniel[/v]

On 6/8/2016 at 10:49 AM, dicetosser1 said:

i want either len or seph lynched. the only possible saving grace for len is if all those "NOT WORTH MENTIONINGS" are too obvious to come from mafia.

seph started off kinda sussing me i felt like he was thinking he could mislynch me later. then suddenly i go from needing a handle to being above null

I think Darthe is making sense regarding seph and the halli stuff

vote seph

On 6/8/2016 at 1:28 PM, keyholder21 said:

Official Vote Count:

Seph (5) - Darthe, Wistork, Lenlo, Besie, dice

Niniel (3) - Hallia, Zander, Clov

Zander (1) - Niniel,

Lenlo (1) - Sili

Not Voting (6) - BFG, Katiora, Lily, Lizabeth, Seph, alannalynn

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

DEADLINE: Wednesday, June 8, 4:30pm CST

On 6/8/2016 at 1:59 PM, Katiora said:

On 6/8/2016 at 10:59 AM, Niniel said:

Besie - I have no idea why she has BFG as mafia that early. I don´t like it.

Sili - feeling better about him now compared to earlier.

Kat - I don´t feel good about her. She posts a lot to tell people to stop arguing and doing fluff/lol posts. I agree with her that people should stop arguing in that way because it makes the thread unreadable for some of us, but she doesn´t seem to draw any conclusions of them even though she apparently reads them. It seems like she is just posting to be seen posting.

Liz - I don´t understand a lot of what she is writing. Have no idea about her.

#1 I never said to stop doing fluff/lol posts... At least I dont' remember saying anything to that effect... which just makes me think that you're not really reading the thread you are skimming and then putting attributes to people as you want, not as they are.

#2 I never said I read the arguments. In fact I barely read anything in those posts... thus my post about ya'll need to stop because I can't read the thread because ya'll are arguing about something that no one else gets. I skimmed those pages, and sometimes read the end of the huge quote posts but a lot of it was just them going back and forth... I do believe I said the argument felt more like town/town (though from other interactions I really think Wish is slightly scummy). That's a conclusion I do think... another time she's not really reading and just throwing misinformation out there.

#3 I'm just posting to be posting when she posts her reads list in 4 different posts and there are 3-4 "reads" that all it says is "i like or townie feeling" I mean really... well... good for you. Where's the actual information.

So you're saying I'm not making conclusions (which after i said my paragraph about the ya'll quit the arguing crap I posted a full reads list with reasons on why EVERYONE was in their place on my list, and it was was more than "I like them") But i'm just posting to be posting and not making conclusions and just getting along...

Nothing you've said this game has in anyway helped me figure you out and I believe it has made it harder for me to view others in an unbiased way because of the way you seem to just go with people with absolutely no reasoning behind you which makes me suspicious of both you and them.

The more I read you the worse I feel about you.

[v]Niniel[/v]

On 6/8/2016 at 2:12 PM, keyholder21 said:

Official Vote Count:

Seph (5) - Darthe, Wistork, Lenlo, Besie, dice

Niniel (4) - Hallia, Zander, Clov, Katiora

Zander (1) - Niniel,

Lenlo (1) - Sili

Not Voting (5) - BFG, Lily, Lizabeth, Seph, alannalynn

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

DEADLINE: Wednesday, June 8, 4:30pm CST

On 6/8/2016 at 2:18 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

[unvote]

[v]seph[/v]

On 6/8/2016 at 2:24 PM, alannalynn said:

[v]niniel[/v]

Competing trains

On 6/8/2016 at 2:26 PM, keyholder21 said:

Official Vote Count:

Seph (6) - Darthe, Wistork, Lenlo, Besie, dice, Sili

Niniel (5) - Hallia, Zander, Clov, Katiora, alannalynn

Zander (1) - Niniel,

Not Voting (4) - BFG, Lily, Lizabeth, Seph,

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

DEADLINE: Wednesday, June 8, 4:30pm CST

On 6/8/2016 at 3:25 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

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[v]nina[/v]

On 6/8/2016 at 4:01 PM, seph said:

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On 6/8/2016 at 1:11 PM, Lizabeth said:

I have 15 minutes before I have to run to work, so I apologize - I'm not going to read through all 305 messages that have been posted since I went to bed last night.

(as a partially whiny, partly constructive feedback to the Gods of DM - I would love love love if it were possible to change the notification system to get notification of responses to my posts and mentions rather than just all the posts that have been posted since I posted, which just makes me sad...)

I will try to skim back before I go, but I don't know when end of day is or if I'll be able to get back home in time to do much before then.

Seph is my strongest scum read right now and he has been basically since his entrance to the thread. I was trying to test a theory about him vs. Sili at one point, but no one (from what I saw) actually responded to my probe about Sili's SK meta (I think Sili is town now for the record) and Seph never seems to be around or responsive when I'm trying to test anything.

Most of my notes are from the first 20 pages, but what I've seen from him since hasn't shifted my perspective.

1. He seems very TMI about trying to establish that he is NOT a wolf:

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On 6/5/2016 at 6:27 PM, seph said:
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2. He town-reads BFG really early and seems very eager to buddy BFG (and Alanna) and paint him and BFG as part of a town core (I missed the part about Hally that Darthe has pointed out, but yeah...that too)

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On 6/5/2016 at 8:41 PM, seph said:

On 6/5/2016 at 6:57 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/5/2016 at 6:55 PM, seph said:

also ganna give sili a light town read.

dem page 4 reads are op.

hallia and i are probably very easy and necessary reads at this point.

On 6/5/2016 at 8:06 PM, Sili Quirrels said:
for wolf seph.
the top two comments look like you ar insinuating there is a chance I am mafia, right?

On 6/5/2016 at 8:18 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/5/2016 at 8:17 PM, seph said:
sili have I ever wolfed against you?
Unsure.

On 6/5/2016 at 8:17 PM, BFG said:
So you think Seph is mafia?
No.

me and bfg try to get into your thought process here and you shut us out completely, and I don't understand why.

On 6/5/2016 at 8:23 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

On 6/5/2016 at 8:21 PM, seph said:

looks like once that I saw in darthes middle of earth game. The reason i am asking is I found the statement odd with there only being like 20% if that of the game checked in.

On 6/5/2016 at 8:17 PM, BFG said:

It's not that important. I just don't feel like explaining rn.

then why even bother saying it if it isn't important, at the time you obviously thought it has some meaning.

On 6/5/2016 at 8:31 PM, Sili Quirrels said:
This is so silly. It was an argument I don't care about anymore.
me and bfg were only asking question, we were not berating you. If you can explain where you were coming from maybe it will make sense to us, that's all we are trying to do is see this from your pov.
but i agree with bfg I don't understand where you are coming form

I stopped doing quotes at that point and just noted page numbers, but I noted that in #298 he disagrees with Lenlo saying that Zander is off and BFG town – buddying BFG???? Protecting a town buddy?

3. He seems to shade and be unconcerned about shifting his votes even when he supposedly no longer has a scum read on Sili - which always reads to me like scum wanting to wait and see if their "leftover" vote could be picked up into a wagon later:

#167 Seph claims that he hasn’t unvoted Sili because he’s lazy

5. In the first quote I quoted in #1, I also noted that he seems eager to shade Zander, Dice, and Clov, and then in #176 Seph answers Zander it felt like he was shading Zander again* (note about Zander coming up later).

6. He just seems too...cocky this game. I've played with him as town in to games now, and I was able to pick up signs of "town!Seph" by this point. Especially in the last game where he was clearly town to me even though he voted against my mason partner in an attempt to save Clov who turned out to be mafia. But I'm not seeing town!Seph here. I've missed a good chunk of posts, granted, but even when we finally were posting in the thread at the same time he seemed eager to sling shade at me after I started questioning other people about him, and he seemed more defensive than productive when people started suggesting that he was scum, getting sulky and claiming VT.

I also have supsicions on Lenlo, Dice and Darthe, but I feel like I haven't had a chance to test out any of those theories because they don't seem to be responding to my probes...or they're not responding when I'm around. Darthe, I will admit (sorry Darthe) is that he seems nicer than I expect him to be. But I actually agree with his thoughts on Seph (with the exception of that ridiculous theory about punctuation that I'm hoping he's joking about)

*With Zander - I don't think he can be scum with Seph, Niniel, or Lenny. I want to think he's not scum at all. The thing with both Seph and Niniel claiming that he's asking pointless questions at points when I didn't think he was (prior to his engagement with them - as I pointed out I thought his repetitive questioning of Niniel's read on Kat (?) was circular, but that was AFTER Niniel's claim that his earlier questioning was meaningless).

With Lenny, I think her accusations that Zander must be scum because he was too jokey to be town were ridiculous. But (no offense) that's more what I expect from town Lenny than scum lenny. She drove me nuts the one game I played with her because she kept picking up on things that I considered nonsensical to try to push people with, and then she'd also tell people what she expected to see from them if they were scum or town (even though I explained to her that TELLING people what she expected made her supposed tells useless). Scum lenny seems to be more subtle and calculating.

And now I have to go to work because that took me almost 15 minutes to type...

I like how after I suss you, you post this lol.

ok so

1. your intro this game is very lackluster for what i associate with town liz, you keep saying there are so many pages and you are behind, but I have see you do quite a bit with 20 pages. and yet I have 0 idea who you think is town.

2.I don't remember town liz EVER throwing out all of her suspects at one time, Let alone give up on something she is trying to test. (a example is last game when you literally hunted the guy down UNTIL you made him answer) The bold is so uncharacteristic of you if you are town.

3. By this time you usually have a town core, but it seems to me you are more worried this game about painting a target on your suspects, than solving the game (I could be biased because I am a so called suspect)

but I think you should 100% be the lynch today

[v] liz[/v]

On 6/8/2016 at 4:46 PM, Lenlo said:

[unvote][v]Niniel[/v]

I voted Seph for competing trains, yet that crap built super fast while I was asleep without a whole lot of backing up or justifying for it. Thats puttin me off offa it big time, so onto another wolfy person.

BFG · June 13, 2016

Thinking aloud, Liz has been challenging my read on Chris a lot. Generically I want to say this makes them unlikely teammates which makes Chris town ~~unless Darthe was right about it being a 3 man lol~~, but I'm biased at this point since Chris is probably the read I 'want' to be right on the most :dry:

Hallia · June 13, 2016

So considering I'm on borrowed time: don't let Laine slide. Feeling town still on Kat, BFG, Clov and Len still

BFG · June 13, 2016

On 6/13/2016 at 12:32 AM, Hallia said:
So considering I'm on borrowed time: don't let Laine slide. Feeling town still on Kat, BFG, Clov and Len still

Would swap Lenlo and Lily and add Sili, but am keeping your opinion of Lenlo in mind :)

BFG · June 13, 2016

What do you think of Besie and Liz?

Hallia · June 13, 2016

Straight up unsure. Was leaning scum on Besie and town on Liz, but I'm waffling hardcore.

BFG · June 13, 2016

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BFG · June 13, 2016

Yuck

Key can I edit the formatting in the above post?

BFG · June 13, 2016

Cursory glance Sili looks pretty good with the vote switch to wishtork (and the amount of vote switching in the game is generally a town tell for him - need to see if it's kept up Day 2)

I don't think I can rule out Laine/Lenlo from the other wagons, she had already disliked Seph's wagon and didn't understand the case on Niniel to vote there.

BFG · June 13, 2016

On 6/8/2016 at 7:32 PM, seph said:

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Lissa/JTM possible

Lissa/Phighter nah from Lissa's side, but Phighter/Lissa more likely idk if this makes sense

Lissa/Kaze prob nah

Kaze/Phighter prob nah

JTM/Kaze possible

alright here we have the association reads offsite that lenbot linked us. it talks about if people could be w/w etc. This makes sense, I think if this person is a wolf, then this person likely is not a wolf.

now here is her so called association read

On 6/8/2016 at 6:22 PM, wish-tree said:
I can actually see seph/Zander now, which means Niniel is probably town
This is not a association read, she is clearly calling niniel town based off me and zander, whom she should have no idea what our alignments are.

Then shortly after she posts this assosiationg read

On 6/8/2016 at 6:47 PM, wish-tree said:

some more associations

Lenlo/seph w/w - probably not

seph/Zander w/w - possible

seph/Niniel w/w - nope

Niniel/Zander w/w - unlikely from Niniel's side b/c of , but Zander/Niniel w/w - more possible b/c of Zander's tendency to hard bus

now this unlike the niniel read off of me and zander makes sense. hint one of these is not like the other

[unvote]

[v] wishstork[/v]

below is the full back and fourth between us

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On 6/8/2016 at 6:22 PM, wish-tree said:
I can actually see seph/Zander now, which means Niniel is probably town

On 6/8/2016 at 6:29 PM, seph said:

On 6/8/2016 at 6:22 PM, wish-tree said:
I can actually see seph/Zander now, which means Niniel is probably town
you probably shouldn't link people like this before there is a actual flip, like the bold in particular. All it is going to do is skew your reads based off information you do not have. I should know I did this a few games ago and it screwed everything up.
it is interesting to note that you think niniel is probably town based off me and zanders play, but not niniels

On 6/8/2016 at 6:41 PM, seph said:

On 6/8/2016 at 6:39 PM, wish-tree said:

On 6/8/2016 at 6:36 PM, seph said:

Im confused on how you town read someone off of two alignments you actually have no idea about.

seems like she is trying to find a reason to actually read niniel town.

It's a associative read, wherein I think it's verryyyy veryyyy likely that someone does not treat their scum partner in a certain way.

Or, if it's very likely that two people are scum and the third person they are pushing or who is pushing against them is then town.

I understand that, but with niniel on the block here it makes more of a difference. You are town reading her solely based off of me and zanders play, which is pretty terrible since I know I am town, and I feel very strongly that zander is town

On 6/8/2016 at 6:47 PM, wish-tree said:

some more associations

Lenlo/seph w/w - probably not

seph/Zander w/w - possible

seph/Niniel w/w - nope

Niniel/Zander w/w - unlikely from Niniel's side b/c of , but Zander/Niniel w/w - more possible b/c of Zander's tendency to hard bus

On 6/8/2016 at 6:48 PM, wish-tree said:

On 6/8/2016 at 6:41 PM, seph said:

On 6/8/2016 at 6:39 PM, wish-tree said:

On 6/8/2016 at 6:36 PM, seph said:

Im confused on how you town read someone off of two alignments you actually have no idea about.

seems like she is trying to find a reason to actually read niniel town.

It's a associative read, wherein I think it's verryyyy veryyyy likely that someone does not treat their scum partner in a certain way.

Or, if it's very likely that two people are scum and the third person they are pushing or who is pushing against them is then town.

I understand that, but with niniel on the block here it makes more of a difference. You are town reading her solely based off of me and zanders play, which is pretty terrible since I know I am town, and I feel very strongly that zander is town

I'm not sure if you get what unflipped associatives are, but essentially, without having read other peoples' stuff, I'm making comments on what I think is likely based off of that. Does that make sense?

I'm focused on you right now, not niniel, but if I go through and draw out potential connections, when I get to her ISO, then I'll be able to make sense of it.

On 6/8/2016 at 6:51 PM, wish-tree said:

I'm not sure if you understand, seph, but I'm NOT giving niniel a pass because of you and Zander.

I haven't read anything from her besides the stuff that you posted about her

On 6/8/2016 at 6:55 PM, seph said:

On 6/8/2016 at 6:48 PM, wish-tree said:

On 6/8/2016 at 6:41 PM, seph said:

On 6/8/2016 at 6:39 PM, wish-tree said:

On 6/8/2016 at 6:36 PM, seph said:

Im confused on how you town read someone off of two alignments you actually have no idea about.

seems like she is trying to find a reason to actually read niniel town.

It's a associative read, wherein I think it's verryyyy veryyyy likely that someone does not treat their scum partner in a certain way.

Or, if it's very likely that two people are scum and the third person they are pushing or who is pushing against them is then town.

I understand that, but with niniel on the block here it makes more of a difference. You are town reading her solely based off of me and zanders play, which is pretty terrible since I know I am town, and I feel very strongly that zander is town

I'm not sure if you get what unflipped associatives are, but essentially, without having read other peoples' stuff, I'm making comments on what I think is likely based off of that. Does that make sense?

I'm focused on you right now, not niniel, but if I go through and draw out potential connections, when I get to her ISO, then I'll be able to make sense of it.

I do understand, but you literally call niniel TOWN based off me and zanders play, am i wrong?
below are some association reads, when you call me and z possible w/w.

but the niniel read you clearly call her town from basing a read off me and zander, which you have no idea how either of us should flip. so how does that make niniel probably town

On 6/8/2016 at 6:22 PM, wish-tree said:
I can actually see seph/Zander now, which means Niniel is probably town

Sili Quirrels · June 13, 2016

It felt like wish and stork were trying to manipulate thread for a bunch of reasons. i guess everyone else kept me distracted enough not to go back to them.

Really, I didn't know how to weight their tone vs. content. I know tone isn't a good resaon but I knew nothing about Wish. I sort of feel bad now. I almost got her lynched day 1 but then I dropped the ball

Sili Quirrels · June 13, 2016

Lenlo, chances I vote you, 'a villager', then switch to a wolf buddy?

Didn't think there was much of a chance myself.

Sili Quirrels · June 13, 2016

btw can someone give me cliffs. i don't understand a few things, like what wish was doing before the mk and such. And right now I need to go do something. I'm sorry i fell asleep.

Fwiw besie's wot seemed town inspired, but i only read a tiny bit of it.

BFG · June 13, 2016

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On 6/8/2016 at 7:35 PM, keyholder21 said:

Official Vote Count:

Niniel (4) - Hallia, Zander, Katiora, Lenlo

Lenlo (3) - alannalynn, Niniel, Clov

Seph (3) - Darthe, Besie, dice,

Wistork (2) - Sili, Seph

Not Voting (4) - BFG, Lily, Lizabeth, Wistork

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

DEADLINE: Wednesday, June 8, 4:30pm CST

On 6/8/2016 at 7:47 PM, wish-tree said:

On 6/8/2016 at 7:43 PM, seph said:
im sticking with my gut here, I just don't believe you
Does what I said not make sense?

[v] Seph [/v]

On 6/8/2016 at 7:51 PM, keyholder21 said:

Official Vote Count:

Niniel (4) - Hallia, Zander, Katiora, Lenlo

Seph (4) - Darthe, Besie, dice, Wistork

Lenlo (3) - alannalynn, Niniel, Clov

Wistork (2) - Sili, Seph

Not Voting (3) - BFG, Lily, Lizabeth,

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

DEADLINE: Wednesday, June 8, 4:30pm CST

On 6/8/2016 at 8:06 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

[unvote]

[v]lenlo[/v]

On 6/8/2016 at 8:07 PM, keyholder21 said:

Official Vote Count:

Niniel (4) - Hallia, Zander, Katiora, Lenlo

Seph (4) - Darthe, Besie, dice, Wistork

Lenlo (4) - alannalynn, Niniel, Clov, Sili

Wistork (1) - Seph

Not Voting (3) - BFG, Lily, Lizabeth,

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

DEADLINE: Wednesday, June 8, 4:30pm CST

On 6/8/2016 at 8:14 PM, Zander said:

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On 6/8/2016 at 7:04 PM, seph said:

On 6/8/2016 at 6:59 PM, wish-tree said:

On 6/8/2016 at 6:55 PM, seph said:

On 6/8/2016 at 6:48 PM, wish-tree said:

On 6/8/2016 at 6:41 PM, seph said:

On 6/8/2016 at 6:39 PM, wish-tree said:

On 6/8/2016 at 6:36 PM, seph said:

Im confused on how you town read someone off of two alignments you actually have no idea about.

seems like she is trying to find a reason to actually read niniel town.

It's a associative read, wherein I think it's verryyyy veryyyy likely that someone does not treat their scum partner in a certain way.

Or, if it's very likely that two people are scum and the third person they are pushing or who is pushing against them is then town.

I understand that, but with niniel on the block here it makes more of a difference. You are town reading her solely based off of me and zanders play, which is pretty terrible since I know I am town, and I feel very strongly that zander is town

I'm not sure if you get what unflipped associatives are, but essentially, without having read other peoples' stuff, I'm making comments on what I think is likely based off of that. Does that make sense?

I'm focused on you right now, not niniel, but if I go through and draw out potential connections, when I get to her ISO, then I'll be able to make sense of it.

I do understand, but you literally call niniel TOWN based off me and zanders play, am i wrong?
below are some association reads, when you call me and z possible w/w.

but the niniel read you clearly call her town from basing a read off me and zander, which you have no idea how either of us should flip. so how does that make niniel probably town

Right now from you and Zander's side, you are not treating niniel like a scum buddy, and I have you both as scum. Therefore, she's MOST LIKELY TOWN.

From Niniel's side, I haven't exactly read how she treats you, so I am not as sure, but her doggedness in going after Zander makes me think that she is never teamed with him. There are harder associations to make with certain people such as Zander, who will do things you never expect mafia to do to their own partner, so I'm more cautious about that.

I'm pretty sure this is also a site culture thing you might have problems with. If you remember visorslash from Star Fox, he came in with a bunch of associative reads. It helps us narrow down the worlds there are, but there are definitely ways for scum to work around that, which is why you need to be able to make the associative reads from both ends.

Im sorry but the niniel read is a bit much for a association read, I just don't see it.
the bold, how would I treat a scum buddy exactly? niniel is in my wtl, and most of my town reads were voting there already. I would just highly prefer to lynch some people over her currenty.

visor also never called someone town because two unknown alignments made x person look better. I could currently say that about half the game but it literally holds no weight. tbh it looks like your either protecting niniel, or know she would flip town with that post

My concern is that she legit thinks she found 2 wolves D1.

And she thinks Nina is wolfy, and she KNOWS I tend to Bus but thinks Nina is Town?

This not adding up to me, in fact....

[v] unvote [/v]

[v] Wishork [/v]

On 6/8/2016 at 8:20 PM, keyholder21 said:

Official Vote Count:

Seph (4) - Darthe, Besie, dice, Wistork

Lenlo (4) - alannalynn, Niniel, Clov, Sili

Niniel (3) - Hallia, Katiora, Lenlo

Wistork (2) - Seph, Zander

Not Voting (3) - BFG, Lily, Lizabeth,

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

DEADLINE: Wednesday, June 8, 4:30pm CST

On 6/8/2016 at 8:21 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

[unvote]

[v]wish[/v]

On 6/8/2016 at 8:22 PM, Lenlo said:

On 6/8/2016 at 8:21 PM, Sili Quirrels said:

[unvote]

[v]wish[/v]

*popcorn*

On 6/8/2016 at 8:23 PM, keyholder21 said:

Official Vote Count:

Seph (4) - Darthe, Besie, dice, Wistork

Lenlo (3) - alannalynn, Niniel, Clov,

Niniel (3) - Hallia, Katiora, Lenlo

Wistork (3) - Seph, Zander, Sili

Not Voting (3) - BFG, Lily, Lizabeth,

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

DEADLINE: Wednesday, June 8, 4:30pm CST

On 6/8/2016 at 8:30 PM, Hallia said:

[unvote]

[v] Wistork [/v]

On 6/8/2016 at 8:33 PM, keyholder21 said:

Official Vote Count:

Wistork (4) - Seph, Zander, Sili, Hallia

Seph (4) - Darthe, Besie, dice, Wistork

Lenlo (3) - alannalynn, Niniel, Clov,

Niniel (2) - Katiora, Lenlo

Not Voting (3) - BFG, Lily, Lizabeth,

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

DEADLINE: Wednesday, June 8, 4:30pm CST

On 6/8/2016 at 8:35 PM, Katiora said:

well at least it's someone in my bottom......

I still think Nin is Scum btw. Just seems that no one is going there and it's almost EoD. And really Wish's defense of her doesn't make me feel that much better about Wish.

[unvote]

[v]wishstork[/v]

On 6/8/2016 at 8:36 PM, keyholder21 said:

Official Vote Count:

Wistork (5) - Seph, Zander, Sili, Hallia, Katiora

Seph (4) - Darthe, Besie, dice, Wistork

Lenlo (3) - alannalynn, Niniel, Clov,

Niniel (1) - Lenlo

Not Voting (3) - BFG, Lily, Lizabeth,

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

DEADLINE: Wednesday, June 8, 4:30pm CST

On 6/8/2016 at 8:41 PM, Lenlo said:

[unvote][v]Seph[/v]

Going to work. Have fun.

On 6/8/2016 at 8:43 PM, alannalynn said:
Wait wait why is wish being lynched ???

On 6/8/2016 at 8:44 PM, alannalynn said:
I don't like either of the main wagons

On 6/8/2016 at 8:45 PM, LilyElizabeth said:

I was townreading Wish before I fell behind, so I'm going to

Vote Seph

On 6/8/2016 at 8:49 PM, keyholder21 said:

Official Vote Count:

Seph (6) - Darthe, Besie, dice, Wistork, Lenlo, Lily

Wistork (5) - Seph, Zander, Sili, Hallia, Katiora

Lenlo (3) - alannalynn, Niniel, Clov,

Not Voting (2) - BFG, Lizabeth,

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

DEADLINE: Wednesday, June 8, 4:30pm CST

Sili Quirrels · June 13, 2016

On 6/8/2016 at 8:35 PM, Katiora said:

well at least it's someone in my bottom......

I still think Nin is Scum btw. Just seems that no one is going there and it's almost EoD. And really Wish's defense of her doesn't make me feel that much better about Wish.

[unvote]

[v]wishstork[/v]

I don't think I should townread this Bfg.

BFG · June 13, 2016

Wistork's wagon was really close and there were several other options people on it could have jumped to, tempted to just say it's clean and roll with it.

Lenlo's and Lily's votes here look pretty bad momentum wise, but Lily is still probably good from today.

On a side note Lily/Liz unlikely teammates anyway, Lily would be pretty bold to bus 2 teammates running

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