[Basic] I <3 the 90's Mafia: Music Edition - TOWN WINS!

June 10, 2016

Besie's reaction was poor, but I don't know it makes her mafia.

She's pretty astute as mafia, does she out herself to push a lynch on a claimed PR when she knows she'll look awful after a flip?

She does if she thinks she can get away with it and say "i thought it was fake, how would I know?"

I think it is fake. How would I know? Do YOU know for certain, Kat?

BFG · June 10, 2016

The biggest problem I have with wish is her interactions with Zander - namely she prods him to get a reaction/tunnel so she can tell the difference between town/mafia Zander. Leaving aside the fact that she doesn't have town meta on him, he doesn't tunnel (do what she expects as mafia) yet she doesn't consider the different reaction may be because he's town, when she's looking for something different...

BUT

She was more aggressive this game than ~5 pages of her ISO in WoW and her reaction after the mislynch was polar opposites to Ragnarok, but I don't know if that's as telling for her as other players :unsure:

wish-tree · June 10, 2016

also

on PerC you get auto lynched and sussed if you say things about PR and SK :/ so I didn't want to bring up that part of my reads b/c they do factor in

wish-tree · June 10, 2016

The biggest problem I have with wish is her interactions with Zander - namely she prods him to get a reaction/tunnel so she can tell the difference between town/mafia Zander. Leaving aside the fact that she doesn't have town meta on him, he doesn't tunnel (do what she expects as mafia) yet she doesn't consider the different reaction may be because he's town, when she's looking for something different...

BUT

She was more aggressive this game than ~5 pages of her ISO in WoW and her reaction after the mislynch was polar opposites to Ragnarok, but I don't know if that's as telling for her as other players

you can ask people here who know of my meta, I'll link you to other past games if you'd like to compare them

Hallia · June 10, 2016

[v] Dice [/v]

BFG · June 10, 2016

Besie's reaction was poor, but I don't know it makes her mafia.

She's pretty astute as mafia, does she out herself to push a lynch on a claimed PR when she knows she'll look awful after a flip?

She does if she thinks she can get away with it and say "i thought it was fake, how would I know?"

Besie's reaction was poor, but I don't know it makes her mafia.

She's pretty astute as mafia, does she out herself to push a lynch on a claimed PR when she knows she'll look awful after a flip?

2 things:

1. sounds like WIFOM

2. after searching for the definition of "astute" - awww

Besie's reaction was poor, but I don't know it makes her mafia.

She's pretty astute as mafia, does she out herself to push a lynch on a claimed PR when she knows she'll look awful after a flip?

She does if she thinks she can get away with it and say "i thought it was fake, how would I know?"

I think it is fake. How would I know? Do YOU know for certain, Kat?

Mafia is all WIFOM and Besie's probably brazen enough to try it :p

But pretty sure mafia!Besie also 'looks' townier

Will check tonight if I have time

I also don't like Darthe's push

Katiora · June 10, 2016

Besie's reaction was poor, but I don't know it makes her mafia.

She's pretty astute as mafia, does she out herself to push a lynch on a claimed PR when she knows she'll look awful after a flip?

She does if she thinks she can get away with it and say "i thought it was fake, how would I know?"

I think it is fake. How would I know? Do YOU know for certain, Kat?

See she still thinks it's fake... lol even though Hallia linked to her and it would be CRAZY to believe they are both mafia and connected themselves or that one is town and would do that for someone they weren't sure about.

BFG · June 10, 2016

The biggest problem I have with wish is her interactions with Zander - namely she prods him to get a reaction/tunnel so she can tell the difference between town/mafia Zander. Leaving aside the fact that she doesn't have town meta on him, he doesn't tunnel (do what she expects as mafia) yet she doesn't consider the different reaction may be because he's town, when she's looking for something different...

BUT

She was more aggressive this game than ~5 pages of her ISO in WoW and her reaction after the mislynch was polar opposites to Ragnarok, but I don't know if that's as telling for her as other players

you can ask people here who know of my meta, I'll link you to other past games if you'd like to compare them

Honestly I won't get round to ISOing them if you post as much in all your games :dry:

wish-tree · June 10, 2016

my main problem with voting Besie, as I've said before, is Darthe

Sorry if this is too paranoid, but I have to wonder after you hard defended me yesterday, and then said oh, wish could be mafia, after Zander brought up that I like to derp clear as mafia, when he has no knowledge of my town game. BFG, I get why you think that my push of Zander was weird, but yeah, his push of me was just as tunnelly because we only know each other's mafia ranges and have a certain idea of them.

wish-tree · June 10, 2016

The biggest problem I have with wish is her interactions with Zander - namely she prods him to get a reaction/tunnel so she can tell the difference between town/mafia Zander. Leaving aside the fact that she doesn't have town meta on him, he doesn't tunnel (do what she expects as mafia) yet she doesn't consider the different reaction may be because he's town, when she's looking for something different...

BUT

She was more aggressive this game than ~5 pages of her ISO in WoW and her reaction after the mislynch was polar opposites to Ragnarok, but I don't know if that's as telling for her as other players

you can ask people here who know of my meta, I'll link you to other past games if you'd like to compare them

Honestly I won't get round to ISOing them if you post as much in all your games

two of my recent town games - one only had 50ish posts because I replaced in d1, and was nked n1, and the other only has 100ish posts because it was a post restriction game and I was nked n2.

Darthe · June 10, 2016

I was town last game, and I'm town this game. In both, people claimed. Granted, both then and the one now (seph) has been true. But if people just believe claims so easily, then why don't scum claim more often? It just doesn't make sense to me.

If you're a wolf and you claim doc and in a real doc then when I claim you're guaranteed to die.

wish-tree · June 10, 2016

granted, my reads were better there... I can also show you a game which I'd say is probably similar to this one, where I posted 300 times on d1 (or was it 400?)

iirc Sooh and Cass were also in that game with me

wish-tree · June 10, 2016

actually, for that game I'm talking about, um, I don't know how many times I posted b/c the forum isn't as nice and automated as MU, so maybe the total count was close to 1000?

wish-tree · June 10, 2016

Besie's reaction was poor, but I don't know it makes her mafia.

She's pretty astute as mafia, does she out herself to push a lynch on a claimed PR when she knows she'll look awful after a flip?

She does if she thinks she can get away with it and say "i thought it was fake, how would I know?"

Besie's reaction was poor, but I don't know it makes her mafia.

She's pretty astute as mafia, does she out herself to push a lynch on a claimed PR when she knows she'll look awful after a flip?

2 things:

1. sounds like WIFOM

2. after searching for the definition of "astute" - awww

Besie's reaction was poor, but I don't know it makes her mafia.

She's pretty astute as mafia, does she out herself to push a lynch on a claimed PR when she knows she'll look awful after a flip?

She does if she thinks she can get away with it and say "i thought it was fake, how would I know?"

I think it is fake. How would I know? Do YOU know for certain, Kat?

Mafia is all WIFOM and Besie's probably brazen enough to try it :p

But pretty sure mafia!Besie also 'looks' townier

Will check tonight if I have time

I also don't like Darthe's push

can you explain what you mean by mafia!Besie looking townier?

Darthe · June 10, 2016

Nin made a bit point but I can't remember ur

Clovdyx · June 10, 2016

Wish what did you mean by 'Nin has reason to think Hallia town, but a doc save doesn't mean town...'?

I didn't want to vote Nin yesterday because I thought she was the cop with a green on Hallia, but that would have been impossible b/c DM doesn't use N0 checks afaik... so yeah

then I reread Nin's posts after her claim today, some before the claim that said Nin said that Hallia was town for reasons and wouldn't explain them, which seemed to me to be a cop soft but that wouldn't make sense, b/c she claimed doc. Hallia claiming that she was Nin's other half - Nin saying she's a limited doc, means that Hallia is probably also a limited doc. Therefore I'm not confused anymore, I think.

Except you've been on Nin since yesterday. If you actually thought she was the cop with an innocent, voting her doesn't make any sense. If you thought she was hinting at it, explain to me why the hell you didn't move off the minute you saw that.

Wish what did you mean by 'Nin has reason to think Hallia town, but a doc save doesn't mean town...'?
I didn't want to vote Nin yesterday because I thought she was the cop with a green on Hallia, but that would have been impossible b/c DM doesn't use N0 checks afaik... so yeah

then I reread Nin's posts after her claim today, some before the claim that said Nin said that Hallia was town for reasons and wouldn't explain them, which seemed to me to be a cop soft but that wouldn't make sense, b/c she claimed doc. Hallia claiming that she was Nin's other half - Nin saying she's a limited doc, means that Hallia is probably also a limited doc. Therefore I'm not confused anymore, I think.

Weren't you on Niniel for pretty much all of today?

I asked the mod last night. Thought that Nin was scummy outside of her "do you want me to claim", but I thought that was a role soft so I tried to protect her.

Ah, yes. The classic protect via helping string her up.

Excuse me if I have a hard time buying this crap.

Clovdyx · June 10, 2016

my main problem with voting Besie, as I've said before, is Darthe

Sorry if this is too paranoid, but I have to wonder after you hard defended me yesterday, and then said oh, wish could be mafia, after Zander brought up that I like to derp clear as mafia, when he has no knowledge of my town game. BFG, I get why you think that my push of Zander was weird, but yeah, his push of me was just as tunnelly because we only know each other's mafia ranges and have a certain idea of them.

Your main problem with voting the person you ARE voting...is Darthe. The person who has been on her all day. The person who you followed on Seph yesterday. The person whose reasons you backed, even when I pointed out how terrible they were, and then doubled down on them.

Hallia · June 10, 2016

o.o

wish-tree · June 10, 2016

Wish what did you mean by 'Nin has reason to think Hallia town, but a doc save doesn't mean town...'?

I didn't want to vote Nin yesterday because I thought she was the cop with a green on Hallia, but that would have been impossible b/c DM doesn't use N0 checks afaik... so yeah

then I reread Nin's posts after her claim today, some before the claim that said Nin said that Hallia was town for reasons and wouldn't explain them, which seemed to me to be a cop soft but that wouldn't make sense, b/c she claimed doc. Hallia claiming that she was Nin's other half - Nin saying she's a limited doc, means that Hallia is probably also a limited doc. Therefore I'm not confused anymore, I think.

Except you've been on Nin since yesterday. If you actually thought she was the cop with an innocent, voting her doesn't make any sense. If you thought she was hinting at it, explain to me why the hell you didn't move off the minute you saw that.

I haven't been on Nin since yesterday? if by yesterday you mean real life days, I meant yesterday in terms of d1 vs d2.

BECAUSE THERE ARE NO NIGHT ZEROS, SO THEREFORE IF SHE EVER SOFTED A NIGHT ZERO ON SOMEONE SHE WAS JUST PLAIN LYING.

Also, docs don't have n0s, so it didn't make any sense until Hallia came forward.

Wish what did you mean by 'Nin has reason to think Hallia town, but a doc save doesn't mean town...'?
I didn't want to vote Nin yesterday because I thought she was the cop with a green on Hallia, but that would have been impossible b/c DM doesn't use N0 checks afaik... so yeah

then I reread Nin's posts after her claim today, some before the claim that said Nin said that Hallia was town for reasons and wouldn't explain them, which seemed to me to be a cop soft but that wouldn't make sense, b/c she claimed doc. Hallia claiming that she was Nin's other half - Nin saying she's a limited doc, means that Hallia is probably also a limited doc. Therefore I'm not confused anymore, I think.

Weren't you on Niniel for pretty much all of today?

I asked the mod last night. Thought that Nin was scummy outside of her "do you want me to claim", but I thought that was a role soft so I tried to protect her.

Ah, yes. The classic protect via helping string her up.

Excuse me if I have a hard time buying this crap.

Read the above. Don't call it crap. You know how if you catch someone in a mechanical lie, they are going to hang. That's what I thought I'd caught her doing, but didn't want to say it and out the real cop.

wish-tree · June 10, 2016

my main problem with voting Besie, as I've said before, is Darthe

Sorry if this is too paranoid, but I have to wonder after you hard defended me yesterday, and then said oh, wish could be mafia, after Zander brought up that I like to derp clear as mafia, when he has no knowledge of my town game. BFG, I get why you think that my push of Zander was weird, but yeah, his push of me was just as tunnelly because we only know each other's mafia ranges and have a certain idea of them.

Your main problem with voting the person you ARE voting...is Darthe. The person who has been on her all day. The person who you followed on Seph yesterday. The person whose reasons you backed, even when I pointed out how terrible they were, and then doubled down on them.

I CHANGED MY MIND AFTER YESTERDAY.

OMG

CHRIS

YOU SHOULD KNOW I FLIP FLOP NATURALLY

wish-tree · June 10, 2016

if you're any bit aware of my meta, I cannot make up my mind

halfway through one post I change my mind about a read and write down the opposite read

I did a complete flip on Darthe after he hard defended me for the entire day 1 and then said, nah bruh, she might be mafia b/c of the biased account Zander had of my play

then, combined with the there must be only 3 mafia in a 16 man setup - which you and Sili pointed out was probably TMI, made me not think well of him

wish-tree · June 10, 2016

that's why I said earlier today I need to go back and iso you, BFG, and Lily, because I couldn't remember why I was town reading you all, except from initial impressions and a continuation of those

and those are not reasons I'd like to build a town core from

wish-tree · June 10, 2016

there's no mad emote, but I expect more out of you, Chris, especially because YOU KNOW my play

wish-tree · June 10, 2016

I'll link examples of my meta

and then go cool off

:/

BFG · June 10, 2016

Besie's reaction was poor, but I don't know it makes her mafia.

She's pretty astute as mafia, does she out herself to push a lynch on a claimed PR when she knows she'll look awful after a flip?

She does if she thinks she can get away with it and say "i thought it was fake, how would I know?"

Besie's reaction was poor, but I don't know it makes her mafia.

She's pretty astute as mafia, does she out herself to push a lynch on a claimed PR when she knows she'll look awful after a flip?

2 things:

1. sounds like WIFOM

2. after searching for the definition of "astute" - awww

Besie's reaction was poor, but I don't know it makes her mafia.

She's pretty astute as mafia, does she out herself to push a lynch on a claimed PR when she knows she'll look awful after a flip?

She does if she thinks she can get away with it and say "i thought it was fake, how would I know?"

I think it is fake. How would I know? Do YOU know for certain, Kat?

Mafia is all WIFOM and Besie's probably brazen enough to try it :p

But pretty sure mafia!Besie also 'looks' townier

Will check tonight if I have time

I also don't like Darthe's push

can you explain what you mean by mafia!Besie looking townier?

It's been a while since the games we played together, but she went 3(?) games being semi cleared early

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