[Basic] Bolshevik Mafia - TOWN WINS

monstrman · March 28, 2016

in fact I may add an additional addendum:

3) zander and eldrick are never w/w because if zander is in fact scum he explicitly said "weak cases on townies."

That's all.

Zander? · March 28, 2016

Z, I'm hardly defensive. You need to answer my question. What does your meta tell you about me?

Mafia will throw shade. Sort of like what you are doing.

I'm still trying to decide if you are mafia and going for a mislynch or town digging a tunnel.

Answering my question might make the picture clearer however.

I feel you are,

I didnt throw Shade I commented on not liking what you did irt Eldrick.

My admittedly limited Meta tells me you make weak pushes and cases on potential mislynch targets.

The only reason my votes not on you currently is a tend to think youre scummy all the time.

As you well know.

Did I answer that satisfactorily for you?

BFG · March 28, 2016

Kronos, Zander likely town neither are my peek

Otherwise weird game :unsure:

Eldrick4221 · March 28, 2016

We know two things for sure coming out of this

1) zander and turin are never w/w

2) turin and eldrick are never w/w

As far as each of their respective alignments I haven't seen enough to make a decision on that

Can you explain your reasons for these?

Zander? · March 28, 2016

in fact I may add an additional addendum:

3) zander and eldrick are never w/w because if zander is in fact scum he explicitly said "weak cases on townies."

That's all.

Not sure I follow that.

Im talking about how scum Turin builds cases on Townies from our Minority villa game together and his pushes/reasons for going after them.

Wasnt referring to anyone else just how he approaches it.

I dont recall seeing him ever bus someone.

Eldrick4221 · March 28, 2016

I find it interesting that you are pointing out who isn't w/w.

What iyo is the likelihood that those 3 sets are v/v or v/w?

Why point out specifically that the sets aren't scummates, and also why can't they be?

I know you're wrong about 2 and 3 not being w/w cuz I'm town, but w/w isn't the only thing to look at.

Eldrick4221 · March 28, 2016

Ebwop know you're not wrong

Zander? · March 28, 2016

We know two things for sure coming out of this

1) zander and turin are never w/w

2) turin and eldrick are never w/w

As far as each of their respective alignments I haven't seen enough to make a decision on that

Can someone describe Monstr;s scum game to me if anyone knows please?

Turin Turambar · March 28, 2016

Z, I'm hardly defensive. You need to answer my question. What does your meta tell you about me?

Mafia will throw shade. Sort of like what you are doing.

I'm still trying to decide if you are mafia and going for a mislynch or town digging a tunnel.

Answering my question might make the picture clearer however.

I feel you are,

I didnt throw Shade I commented on not liking what you did irt Eldrick.

My admittedly limited Meta tells me you make weak pushes and cases on potential mislynch targets.

The only reason my votes not on you currently is a tend to think youre scummy all the time.

As you well know.

Did I answer that satisfactorily for you?

not really. You have more than limited meta on me. I asked you specifically about one thing and you failed to answer that. What does your meta say about my taking something other discount early and voting on it? I think you know the answer and just don't want to say it because it nullifies your "case".

Btw, what is your read on Eldrick?

BFG · March 28, 2016

So anybody have intel on this Kronos guy? I have no idea who he is.

I dont know if this is alignment indicative of Eld or not, but I find a tad strange for him to ask atp.

Maybe its just me but still something i noted.

A bit odd but I missed it til you pointed it out so idk

This seems really strange

First I seem to recall that Eldrick doesn't really use meta that much, but I may be misremembering :unsure: but it seems an odd thing for Eldrick to ask, although this is the second time he's apparently tried to start discussion, although he later dismisses the first as a joke. Not really sure where that leaves me regarding Eldrick.

Darthe's response to Zander seems really odd, and I'm not sure why. It's page 2, and he's commenting about a post that was about 3 above his... and it seems to be commenting for the sake of saying something, but at the same time his comment says nothing :unsure:

Eldrick4221 · March 28, 2016

Too many negatives to sort out. You guys know what I meant.

2 and 3 aren't w/w cuz I'm town.

I really need to proofread my posts before I hit post.

Eldrick4221 · March 28, 2016

We know two things for sure coming out of this

1) zander and turin are never w/w

2) turin and eldrick are never w/w

As far as each of their respective alignments I haven't seen enough to make a decision on that

Can someone describe Monstr;s scum game to me if anyone knows please?

I don't know his scum game, just his general game. That he is a very hyperbolic player and takes stuff to the extreme.

Zander? · March 28, 2016

Z, I'm hardly defensive. You need to answer my question. What does your meta tell you about me?

Mafia will throw shade. Sort of like what you are doing.

I'm still trying to decide if you are mafia and going for a mislynch or town digging a tunnel.

Answering my question might make the picture clearer however.

I feel you are,

I didnt throw Shade I commented on not liking what you did irt Eldrick.

My admittedly limited Meta tells me you make weak pushes and cases on potential mislynch targets.

The only reason my votes not on you currently is a tend to think youre scummy all the time.

As you well know.

Did I answer that satisfactorily for you?

not really. You have more than limited meta on me. I asked you specifically about one thing and you failed to answer that. What does your meta say about my taking something other discount early and voting on it? I think you know the answer and just don't want to say it because it nullifies your "case".

Btw, what is your read on Eldrick?

I dont really have a lot of Meta on you.

As Town you march to the beat of your own drum and stay and do things that dont make sense to me.

As Scum you push weak cases on people for weak reasoning.

Youre talking about this "case" Im building on you. I think you know that if I was casing you, as either alignment this is not it.

I think Eldrick is Townish atp.

Describe your perceived Meta on me.

Anything else?

Zander? · March 28, 2016

This seems really strange

First I seem to recall that Eldrick doesn't really use meta that much, but I may be misremembering but it seems an odd thing for Eldrick to ask, although this is the second time he's apparently tried to start discussion, although he later dismisses the first as a joke. Not really sure where that leaves me regarding Eldrick.

Darthe's response to Zander seems really odd, and I'm not sure why. It's page 2, and he's commenting about a post that was about 3 above his... and it seems to be commenting for the sake of saying something, but at the same time his comment says nothing

MORE!!!

MORE!!!!!!!!

Turin Turambar · March 28, 2016

in fact I may add an additional addendum:

3) zander and eldrick are never w/w because if zander is in fact scum he explicitly said "weak cases on townies."

That's all.

Not sure I follow that.

Im talking about how scum Turin builds cases on Townies from our Minority villa game together and his pushes/reasons for going after them.

Wasnt referring to anyone else just how he approaches it.

I dont recall seeing him ever bus someone.

Quick explanation:

You are saying that my mafia.meta is to push weak cases on townies.

You are saying I'm pushing a weak case on Eldrick.

Therefore, you are saying that Eldrick must be townie or the entire point is moot.

your entire case fails to even consider that I would vote someone for what you consider a "weak" reason as town. Which is why I asked you about that specific thing.

Eldrick4221 · March 28, 2016

So anybody have intel on this Kronos guy? I have no idea who he is.

I dont know if this is alignment indicative of Eld or not, but I find a tad strange for him to ask atp.

Maybe its just me but still something i noted.

A bit odd but I missed it til you pointed it out so idk

This seems really strange

First I seem to recall that Eldrick doesn't really use meta that much, but I may be misremembering but it seems an odd thing for Eldrick to ask, although this is the second time he's apparently tried to start discussion, although he later dismisses the first as a joke. Not really sure where that leaves me regarding Eldrick.

Darthe's response to Zander seems really odd, and I'm not sure why. It's page 2, and he's commenting about a post that was about 3 above his... and it seems to be commenting for the sake of saying something, but at the same time his comment says nothing

Are you kidding? I use meta all the time. It's a great way to get the game started.

I firmly believe it isn't the most important aspect of the game, and that views later in the game shouldn't be based on it, but that doesn't discount its usefulness at the beginning.

Everyone else on the list I've played with before. I know nothing about kronos. I was seeing what other people had to say about him.

BFG · March 28, 2016

Hey Thane :) I was going to use my work printer but I didn't have everything I needed while I was there and forgot the portion I DID have haha.

What are your thoughts on No Lynch?

This is probably a good look for Laine. She's engaging Thane in game related conversation. Reservations in that No lynch tends to be alignment neutral in terms of stances, but there's not much else to really dig into. I don't recall anything yet from later game that bolsters this opinion though

Zander? · March 28, 2016

in fact I may add an additional addendum:

3) zander and eldrick are never w/w because if zander is in fact scum he explicitly said "weak cases on townies."

That's all.

Not sure I follow that.

Im talking about how scum Turin builds cases on Townies from our Minority villa game together and his pushes/reasons for going after them.

Wasnt referring to anyone else just how he approaches it.

I dont recall seeing him ever bus someone.

Quick explanation:

You are saying that my mafia.meta is to push weak cases on townies.

You are saying I'm pushing a weak case on Eldrick.

Therefore, you are saying that Eldrick must be townie or the entire point is moot.

your entire case fails to even consider that I would vote someone for what you consider a "weak" reason as town. Which is why I asked you about that specific thing.

I do think Eldrick is Townie.

What "case" is this that you keep talking about.

Im not saying you cant be Town, i just noticed something and made my thoughts known,

BFG · March 28, 2016

So anybody have intel on this Kronos guy? I have no idea who he is.

I dont know if this is alignment indicative of Eld or not, but I find a tad strange for him to ask atp.

Maybe its just me but still something i noted.

A bit odd but I missed it til you pointed it out so idk

This seems really strange

First I seem to recall that Eldrick doesn't really use meta that much, but I may be misremembering but it seems an odd thing for Eldrick to ask, although this is the second time he's apparently tried to start discussion, although he later dismisses the first as a joke. Not really sure where that leaves me regarding Eldrick.

Darthe's response to Zander seems really odd, and I'm not sure why. It's page 2, and he's commenting about a post that was about 3 above his... and it seems to be commenting for the sake of saying something, but at the same time his comment says nothing

Are you kidding? I use meta all the time. It's a great way to get the game started.

I firmly believe it isn't the most important aspect of the game, and that views later in the game shouldn't be based on it, but that doesn't discount its usefulness at the beginning.

Everyone else on the list I've played with before. I know nothing about kronos. I was seeing what other people had to say about him.

Ok,

what's your opinion on Kronos and Darthe?

BFG · March 28, 2016

thoughts on No lynch? Never to be done early game imo. In later stages, to improve odds and perhaps get a clearer view through NA's, perhaps. But early game (like untill D3 is over) it shouldn't even be considered.
But arguably lynches are at least halfway responsible for town losses. We could no lynch for a few days, see who mafia NKs, then start the game. It's at least a null strategy.

It is too early for you to be that drunk.

Lol'd

Turin Turambar · March 28, 2016

Z, would "marching to the beat of my own drum" possibly include voting someone for something you didn't think was a reason to vote?

I don't really do meta except in small bits. My take on your meta is that you are less likely to truly consider all options even tho you try to.look like you do. This is again why I asked about your reasoning. You just keep repeating that I push weak cases as mafia. Funny because I manage to get people lynched when needed. I would say that makes the cases not so weak. That could be my ego tho.

You aren't voting.me but you said the only reason you aren't is that you always find me scummy. This sounds like building up to a vote, which was something that AJ busted you on in that game. It also leaves you the excuse for later that Turin always looks like mafia to you.

Lenlo · March 28, 2016

Sorry ive been out. Not caught up, will be later tonight. Grapes are expensive.

Turin Turambar · March 28, 2016

Very well. I was just doing the same. I noticed something and mentioned it.

Sooh · March 28, 2016

I just want to take a moment and say I'M ALIVE!!!!

Ok, back to regular programming.

Zander? · March 28, 2016

Z, would "marching to the beat of my own drum" possibly include voting someone for something you didn't think was a reason to vote?

I don't really do meta except in small bits. My take on your meta is that you are less likely to truly consider all options even tho you try to.look like you do. This is again why I asked about your reasoning. You just keep repeating that I push weak cases as mafia. Funny because I manage to get people lynched when needed. I would say that makes the cases not so weak. That could be my ego tho.

You aren't voting.me but you said the only reason you aren't is that you always find me scummy. This sounds like building up to a vote, which was something that AJ busted you on in that game. It also leaves you the excuse for later that Turin always looks like mafia to you.

Its possible.

As both alignments iyo? Or if one which? If never seen you get someone mislynched. We've only played in a few games together iirc like 5-6 so maybe not a good sample size.

AJ busted me that game for not placing him, not building up to a vote. So thats false.

Ive said the same things about you before in games and talking to others. I find Sooh always scummy as well. (Love ya Sooh)

Im not voting you cause I dont read you well and dont feel confident enough atp or your alignment either way,

I didnt like the push/vote on Eldrick. It was weak, does it MEAN youre Scum, no but it also doesnt mean that you are not.

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