[Standard] Chrono Trigger Mafia - Town wins Day 5!

[Thane Vakarian]

 

i'm still catching up, which isn't really easy at work... I'm away all sunday, nothing happens. I post a few things on monday, then i don't go fast enough and i get a vote? sheesh....

 

Yep, pretty much.

 

i'm working on it....

[Verbal32]

 

 

i'm still catching up, which isn't really easy at work... I'm away all sunday, nothing happens. I post a few things on monday, then i don't go fast enough and i get a vote? sheesh....

 

Yep, pretty much.

 

i'm working on it....

 

 

:-)

[Andrej]

Should also be noted that both Zander and Nolder think I am scum with the other and yet have barely interacted at all this game.

I'd like people to weigh in on this.

[Turin Turambar]

I just read last few pages and it is nearing my time to sleep. I will be back in the morning for DL.

 

Not sure what to make of AJ. I think I will Sleep on it.

 

[V] Thane [/v]

 

He is my other choice Anyway. Maybe competing trains to force some opinions?

 

Good night.

[Thane Vakarian]

 

Should also be noted that both Zander and Nolder think I am scum with the other and yet have barely interacted at all this game.

I'd like people to weigh in on this.

 

working on it, AJ. Writing a commented reads list at this point.

 

I just read last few pages and it is nearing my time to sleep. I will be back in the morning for DL.

 

Not sure what to make of AJ. I think I will Sleep on it.

 

[V] Thane [/v]

 

He is my other choice Anyway. Maybe competing trains to force some opinions?

 

Good night.

[v] Turin [/v]

 

I'll get to reasoning in a moment.

[Hallia]

Tina - on mobile atm

 

Trying as I can

[Hallia]

I feel like Verb has really stepped it up.

 

I feel like I can relate to how AJ is playing atm. Still a town read.

 

Zander is being aggressive town Zander.

 

I don't feel that Tina is scum

 

I had Turin as townish, but haven't seen as much from him recently

 

Don't feel any better about Nol, but apparently I'm the only one.

 

[v] Thane [/v] nudge nudge

[Andrej]

Nolder is dropping considerably for me as things progress, Hallia. You're not the only one.

 

He's skating by big time.

[Andrej]

I'm pretty much done arguing with Zander. I don't think either of us are going to budge. If I can't get him then I'll shoot for his partners. There's a glaring lack of interaction between him and Nolder for them both to try and say I'm scum with the other. It's kind of a classic distancing scapegoat. They read each other wolfy while both pushing the villager in the middle.

 

Thane is almost a coin toss. Like I understand why he looks bad but I can't say for sure this behavior is exclusively wolfy for him. He's a big gamble.

[Hallia]

I could switch to Nol.

[Thane Vakarian]

Thane is a King *nods*

AndreJ : claimed town PR, with 2/6 votes on him. Feels like a very frustrated townie for me. I seriously doubt that he would do a mental breakdown as scum. Would be a bastard move if he actually did. I will go with his claim. I don't understand people still voting claimed PR's.
Lenlo: claimed PR... sorta Vig... déjà vu, anybody? No, seriously.. Kinda feel this comes out of nowhere. Why the claim? Why so soon? No pressure on him, at all. IF actually PR, then bravo for outing a second PR D2.... it could have waited imo. Unless otherwise, still going with the claim, for now. But less certain than AJ
Leelou depends on wether or not AJ is really a town PR. Has been read as town. So.... 1+1, i by AJ's claim, so this could be legit (if not GF). 

Verbal's interactions are good. Involvement is good. His questions and replies are good. I just have nothing bad to point out at this moment. Should I be worried about that? Not at this point.

 

Hallia claimed 'informed townie', and everybody buys it. No second guesses what so ever. I wonder if that's a smart thing to do. You know who is town when playing as a wolf too.... wouldn't clear her too soon. She's looking ok, but not 100% clear for me. Call it paranoia. I would like to think of it as healthy suspicion. Also, putting a third vote on a player that has been mentioning he's catching up, especially in a low activity hybrid game? I dunno.

Zander... wow.... there's something. With everything going on, I still have a slight town lean on him. if only slight. I know he can be absolutely wrong on players and push townies 'till they die, but yeah... Zander, re-evaluate your game. You can do better imo. 

Nolder is a mystery to me. I still have troubles reading him in general. He seems ok to me, but with a little hint of 'be careful' in the back of my mind. Trying not to get too influenced by the general trend of people sussing him. Would like to see how he plays this week. 

 

Tina was on my radar early game. Some weird stuff going on there. More recent posts were looking ok to me. Still, she's voting a claimed PR, which is odd. One shouldn't do that imo. Added to the D1 stuff, she's low on my list. Usually a player would re-evaluate after seeing some claims, but i don't get that here. Even though she gave her reasons why, still.... not a good look. 

Turin don't get the town!Turin impression he gave off last game we played in. At all. Mainly at the bottom of my list due to PoE at this point, but I don't feel bad about putting my vote there. 

 

Before you ask: YES, these are in order, town to wolf. Yes, it took me some time to do this, so if you voted for pressure... now you don't have that as an excuse anymore. You people need to learn to chill.

[Thane Vakarian]

I'll be here for the next couple of hours, so, for once, you get to interact with a european player realtime. Nightshifts blow

[Zander?]

Alright, well idgaf anymore.

 

Zander if you're scum then you win. If you're town then I'm sorry and I'm disappointed in both of us.

 

Sorry I blew it, townies.

 

Dude if Im wrong prove it.  You havent yet.  i hate this defeatist attitude.

 

@ Zander

 

re: Tina - this isn't like her to essentially ignore a claim and go for a lynch anyway

 

re: AJ - I said I don't know what to do with him because of all this AtE he's tossing out.  Like, every other post, lol.  I had him as a scum read, but then he's said stuff I like, but I'm still cautious.  And I'm not certain what this level of AtE means for him.  I don't think I recall him doing this in past games with him.

 

I dont know what to make of the AtE either other then the fact I dont like it,

 

 

I read Thane's posts first since there aren't many. Questions for Thane:

 

1. When you voted me it was because I interacted with others instead of Nolder (?) and that you wanted me to post more. When I got back you unvoted me because, well, because I came back and posted. But was I still a suspect because of the Nolder thing? What do you think about me now?

 

2. In # 243 you listed Turin as town. In # 572 you said Verb is town. In # 705 you say that you want to take a look at Verb, Hally and Turin. But in # 742 you again have Turin and Verbal as town. Can you explain this?

1. lemme catch up and get back to you (which will be madness, seeing DL is soon)

2. Townleans can still be investigated, just to be sure. 

 

 

Give us some thoughts and reads brother,

 

 

@ Tina

 

 

Honest question:  are you going anywhere with this line of questioning?  You said it might not be important....if you feel that way, what is your intent, then?

 

Verb where are you going with this?  DO you think she has an agenda or is just legit trying to figure you out?

 

 

 

 

Alright, well idgaf anymore.

Zander if you're scum then you win. If you're town then I'm sorry and I'm disappointed in both of us.

Sorry I blew it, townies.

 

Why this attitude?  You're 3/6 to lynch right now, so why aren't you fighting harder?  I don't understand this "give up" attitude from you, as I've never seen it from you before.

 

Talk to me.  Tell me your problems, and what keeps you up at night.  My hourly rate is very reasonable.

I'm frustrated. At myself, at the game. I have been fighting, I've been under pressure since D1 and I barely made it out alive without having to claim lol. My reads have been crap and I've tried to force the game to my detriment and made a lot of bad reads because of that. I've burned my town equity. Even if I am just 3/6 it's hybrid hammer so unless people come in and start voting I'm a goner. Those three on me have already made it clear they probably won't move so there's not much else I can do on my own.

 

It is what it is.

 

 

What pressure have you really been under since Day 1 tho?  You were only a suss to me. Where you even voted?  Id dont get that comment really

[Andrej]

Are you serious? I was the counter wagon to Dice with like an hour and a half to go.

[Zander?]

@ Zander

 

If I told you AJ was off the table, what would you say?

 

Id say tell me why.  Id keep my Nolder read and keep looking at others.

 

Im not voting Hallia at all this game.  If she pulled that claim and played this involved as Scum, Ill tip my hat to her straight up.

 

Lenlo is seeing what Im seeing and Im certainly not willing to vote him today.

 

Id like to hear more about and from Leelou cause shes not been around.  ive asked you for some more detail on her.

 

Turin Ive read wrong in like every game we played.  he's slight towny for me.

 

So Id prolly vote Nolder and Ill look harder at Leelou Thane and Turin.

 

I feel youve been Townyish thus far.  Im a little interested in your progression on Tina so Ill see what shakes out there,

 

 

 

Should also be noted that both Zander and Nolder think I am scum with the other and yet have barely interacted at all this game.

 

Who really has interacted with Nolder a lot this game.  Better yet, what has Nolder really said at all this game.

 

 

 

Should also be noted that both Zander and Nolder think I am scum with the other and yet have barely interacted at all this game.

I'd like people to weigh in on this.

 

working on it, AJ. Writing a commented reads list at this point.

 

I just read last few pages and it is nearing my time to sleep. I will be back in the morning for DL.

 

Not sure what to make of AJ. I think I will Sleep on it.

 

[V] Thane [/v]

 

He is my other choice Anyway. Maybe competing trains to force some opinions?

 

Good night.

[v] Turin [/v]

 

I'll get to reasoning in a moment.

 

 

Interesting.

[Zander?]

 

Thane is a King *nods*

AndreJ : claimed town PR, with 2/6 votes on him. Feels like a very frustrated townie for me. I seriously doubt that he would do a mental breakdown as scum. Would be a bastard move if he actually did. I will go with his claim. I don't understand people still voting claimed PR's.

Lenlo: claimed PR... sorta Vig... déjà vu, anybody? No, seriously.. Kinda feel this comes out of nowhere. Why the claim? Why so soon? No pressure on him, at all. IF actually PR, then bravo for outing a second PR D2.... it could have waited imo. Unless otherwise, still going with the claim, for now. But less certain than AJ

Leelou depends on wether or not AJ is really a town PR. Has been read as town. So.... 1+1, i by AJ's claim, so this could be legit (if not GF). 

Verbal's interactions are good. Involvement is good. His questions and replies are good. I just have nothing bad to point out at this moment. Should I be worried about that? Not at this point.

 

Hallia claimed 'informed townie', and everybody buys it. No second guesses what so ever. I wonder if that's a smart thing to do. You know who is town when playing as a wolf too.... wouldn't clear her too soon. She's looking ok, but not 100% clear for me. Call it paranoia. I would like to think of it as healthy suspicion. Also, putting a third vote on a player that has been mentioning he's catching up, especially in a low activity hybrid game? I dunno.

Zander... wow.... there's something. With everything going on, I still have a slight town lean on him. if only slight. I know he can be absolutely wrong on players and push townies 'till they die, but yeah... Zander, re-evaluate your game. You can do better imo. 

Nolder is a mystery to me. I still have troubles reading him in general. He seems ok to me, but with a little hint of 'be careful' in the back of my mind. Trying not to get too influenced by the general trend of people sussing him. Would like to see how he plays this week. 

 

Tina was on my radar early game. Some weird stuff going on there. More recent posts were looking ok to me. Still, she's voting a claimed PR, which is odd. One shouldn't do that imo. Added to the D1 stuff, she's low on my list. Usually a player would re-evaluate after seeing some claims, but i don't get that here. Even though she gave her reasons why, still.... not a good look. 

Turin don't get the town!Turin impression he gave off last game we played in. At all. Mainly at the bottom of my list due to PoE at this point, but I don't feel bad about putting my vote there. 

 

Before you ask: YES, these are in order, town to wolf. Yes, it took me some time to do this, so if you voted for pressure... now you don't have that as an excuse anymore. You people need to learn to chill.

 

 

You can do better as well Thane, 

 

What about my game do I need to re evaluate?

 

Really youre having trouble with Hallia voting you? But not Verb? But also with Turin voting you.

 

This is awkward to say the least imo.

[Hallia]

Bleh. Do not like that list. Content where I am.

[Zander?]

Are you serious? I was the counter wagon to Dice with like an hour and a half to go.

 

I thought you were more or less referring to me but still. Lets look at it this way then.  Why were you fighting yesterday but giving up today then?  And I dont really feel like you were under too much pressure man.  Its only a couple votes when you needed what 7 yesterday?  I dont understand that but perhaps its just me.

[Thane Vakarian]

Verbal as first, I'm ok with. Turin has my vote 'cause I think he's a wolf this game. Hallia is just being weird, in a bad way. She could have seen that I was working on it. So, either she doesn't care about what i write or she's ignoring it on purpose.

 

As for your game, Zander. Why the entire discussion with AJ? D2 feels all about that. And it drowns out everything else. It's not really scumhunting, it's looking at one player, get everybody looking into that and the wolves getting away. That's my pov.

[Zander?]

Bleh. Do not like that list. Content where I am.

 

Me neither,

[Andrej]

Who really has interacted with Nolder a lot this game. Better yet, what has Nolder really said at all this game.

I certainly have considering how he's tunneled me all game lol. He hasn't said a lot at all, which is problem in and of itself.

 

These have been his points:

 

Tina buddying

Tina ignoring

AJ protecting/nudging

Yates NK

AJ/Zander scum

 

The point is from memory I don't see either of you addressing or asking questions and yet you're both scum reading each other. If I'm wrong then correct me, but I don't think I am.

 

You called Nolder scum very early and started to link me to him. You have maintained that scum read on Nolder and when pushed to expand on it you couldn't but to talk about meta despite Nolder both addressing Tina on the subject and moving on from it. You have consistently voted around him although he has arguably been a scum read for you all game. He is now linking me to you as scum and yet has me as a bigger suspect.

 

You realize this will look very bad for you if he proves to be a wolf, right?

[Thane Vakarian]

I don't care if you like it Hallia. It's where I am in the game. But, I doubt anybody really cares what I think. The votes are just gonna stay on me for weak reasons and I might die. And I don't really care. When I get mislynched, i hope people will look into the players voting and the weak reasoning. *nods*

[Thane Vakarian]

Turin/Hallia/Zander wolves? Would be lol if true

[Hallia]

Except it's not weak reasoning.

[Andrej]

Not Hallia, Thane. You're wrong on that one at least

 

I'll eat my boots if she's a wolf and executed the claim breadcrumb so perfectly. Not to mention her general attitude is super townie.