Ragnarok Game Thread - Game Over, Town Wins!

[John Snow]

 

 

Any cop result you get can influence your reads. You are allowed to post your reads. Your cop read should be your strongest read. You are allowed to post the strength of your reads.

 

Tress is living proof of this theory (or a liar).

Then you have not recieved the same kind of pm that I got.

Agreed. I was specifically told I could not let my results influence my reads. I could not hint at them in any way. I'm worrying now this is all made up...

 

 

Well that's simply untrue. You are more than welcome to ask the questions I told Tina to ask. 

[Talya]

I didn't get anything about influencing my read, but I would not be able to get an alignment from what I received

[Songstress]

 

 

Any cop result you get can influence your reads. You are allowed to post your reads. Your cop read should be your strongest read. You are allowed to post the strength of your reads.

 

Tress is living proof of this theory (or a liar).

Then you have not recieved the same kind of pm that I got.

Agreed. I was specifically told I could not let my results influence my reads. I could not hint at them in any way. I'm worrying now this is all made up...

 

 

The PM specifically says you can use the information, you just can't state or hint that it came from a mod PM.  Not allowed to say you know something with 100% certainty, or say something and "don't ask me how I know this."

 

Which really brings Snow's actions into question, if you ask me, because if he hypothetically got a role cop result that stated Talya is vanilla, what he has actually posted in thread would have been a modkillable offense.

[John Snow]

 

 

 

Any cop result you get can influence your reads. You are allowed to post your reads. Your cop read should be your strongest read. You are allowed to post the strength of your reads.

 

Tress is living proof of this theory (or a liar).

Then you have not recieved the same kind of pm that I got.

Agreed. I was specifically told I could not let my results influence my reads. I could not hint at them in any way. I'm worrying now this is all made up...

 

 

The PM specifically says you can use the information, you just can't state or hint that it came from a mod PM.  Not allowed to say you know something with 100% certainty, or say something and "don't ask me how I know this."

 

Which really brings Snow's actions into question, if you ask me, because if he hypothetically got a role cop result that stated Talya is vanilla, what he has actually posted in thread would have been a modkillable offense.

 

 

I got tracker type results. I have stated previously that my results were not necessarily alignment indicative.

[Songstress]

 

 

 

 

Any cop result you get can influence your reads. You are allowed to post your reads. Your cop read should be your strongest read. You are allowed to post the strength of your reads.

 

Tress is living proof of this theory (or a liar).

Then you have not recieved the same kind of pm that I got.

Agreed. I was specifically told I could not let my results influence my reads. I could not hint at them in any way. I'm worrying now this is all made up...

 

 

The PM specifically says you can use the information, you just can't state or hint that it came from a mod PM.  Not allowed to say you know something with 100% certainty, or say something and "don't ask me how I know this."

 

Which really brings Snow's actions into question, if you ask me, because if he hypothetically got a role cop result that stated Talya is vanilla, what he has actually posted in thread would have been a modkillable offense.

 

 

I got tracker type results. I have stated previously that my results were not necessarily alignment indicative.

 

 

OK, but here's the thing.

 

You specifically named TALYA.  We were all told that we would be modkilled if we revealed who our results were on.

 

Dear whomever targeted Tayla last night:

I have reason to believe she is VT. 

Good luck and happy hunting. 

 

If this message is directed to you, do yourself and town a favor and don't tell everyone who you are.

 

If you hypothetically got a tracker result on Talya that said she didn't go anywhere, and subsequently posted this, you would have been modkilled.

 

My conclusion is you made it up.

[John Snow]

You honestly think if I was making up results I wouldn't check for that?

 

Besides, you essentially did the same thing with your cop view. 

[Songstress]

You honestly think if I was making up results I wouldn't check for that?

 

Besides, you essentially did the same thing with your cop view. 

 

Not at all, actually.

 

You're making an assumption.

[John Snow]

 

You honestly think if I was making up results I wouldn't check for that?

 

Besides, you essentially did the same thing with your cop view. 

 

Not at all, actually.

 

You're making an assumption.

 

 

And you aren't? Just because I got tracker results and I think a player is vanilla doesn't necessarily mean the two are related. 

[Songstress]

 

 

You honestly think if I was making up results I wouldn't check for that?

 

Besides, you essentially did the same thing with your cop view. 

 

Not at all, actually.

 

You're making an assumption.

 

 

And you aren't? Just because I got tracker results and I think a player is vanilla doesn't necessarily mean the two are related. 

 

 

See, there you go.  Fabricated.

 

 

And that's the only point I was making.  You were insinuating rather strongly that Talya was the person you received results on.  I'm not sure what good it did you, but there it is.

 

Regardless, I agree with your original point that there is no reason Tina shouldn't be allowed to have the result she received influence her reads, having a town cop view on someone with the godfather already dead should be a solid guarantee that they are town.  She will need to be careful in what she says as far as how she presents the information.  Perhaps a full reads list would be preferable to giving a single name in response to a question.  Let's let her think about how she wants to handle the situation so as not to risk getting modkilled.

 

For my part, I could answer the question as asked because with what I had to say, there would be no risk of a modkill.  

[John Snow]

Hence why I suggested Tina ask the questions I said. 

[Sooh]

Vote Count

 

Tina (1) - Leelou

Eldrick (2) - John Snow, Lenlo

Taborline (1) - Eldrick

BFG (1) - Tina

 

6 to lynch

[Eldrick4221]

Good catch talya. JS shouldn't have been able to say what he did if he actually did get the results he claims.

 

[unvote]

[v]JS [/v]

 

Fyi At work. Not caught up yet.

[Songstress]

Good catch talya. JS shouldn't have been able to say what he did if he actually did get the results he claims.

 

[unvote]

[v]JS [/v]

 

Fyi At work. Not caught up yet.

 

Catch up.

 

This has been discussed.

[Lenlo]

No, cause then he couldnt vote wherever he wanted.

 

Im tellin ya, hes not town.

[Songstress]

No, cause then he couldnt vote wherever he wanted.

 

Im tellin ya, hes not town.

 

I'm tempted to policy vote him for that, to be honest. Hypocritical of me?  Maybe.  

[Eldrick4221]

I'm caught up. You personally covered why he appears to be lying. Why are you defending him?

 

I'm happy with my vote, but also now very suspicious of tina. I highly doubt anyone got the result of the person they tried to target.

 

FYI we can say who we targeted.

[Eldrick4221]

I'm caught up. You personally covered why he appears to be lying. Why are you defending him?

 

I'm happy with my vote, but also now very suspicious of tina. I highly doubt anyone got the result of the person they tried to target.

 

FYI we can say who we targeted.

[Eldrick4221]

I need to check with Kivam to see what I'm allowed to say, but what JS said about his tracker result doesn't match what I was allowed to say

[Sooh]

Vote Count

 

Tina (1) - Leelou

Eldrick (2) - John Snow, Lenlo

John Snow (1) - Eldrick

BFG (1) - Tina

 

6 to lynch

[Talya]

No, cause then he couldnt vote wherever he wanted.

 

Im tellin ya, hes not town.

Not sure what you mean here. Who's not town JS?

[Niniel]

I'm caught up. You personally covered why he appears to be lying. Why are you defending him?

 

I'm happy with my vote, but also now very suspicious of tina. I highly doubt anyone got the result of the person they tried to target.

 

FYI we can say who we targeted.

 

Why would I say I got a result on the one I choose if it wasn´t right? 

 

 

 

The more I think about it, the less I like Snow´s play. It actually felt like he was either:

 

1. Not being familiar with the pm or

2. Trying to get me modkilled

 

Non of it is townie.

 

 

[unvote]

 

[v] Snow [/v]

[Eldrick4221]

I just think it's unlikely. Technically possible for the shuffle to match up a result to what it's supposed to be, but it just sounds wrong.

[Talya]

I think JS got away with his because he was saying if someone vowed me he got a cop review of VT. he didn't, he got a tracker result that showed I did not go anywhere. Because he didn't use the information in the way of his result he got away with it.

 

Tina who have you targeted on your nights? Thought you wouldn't be able to say last night, or at least check that first

 

I notice no one was interested in my idea. Nothing to say we can't.

 

Tina - not sure where you get JS trying to get you he told you to ask those questions to kivam.

[Eldrick4221]

I think JS got away with his because he was saying if someone vowed me he got a cop review of VT. he didn't, he got a tracker result that showed I did not go anywhere. Because he didn't use the information in the way of his result he got away with it.

 

Tina who have you targeted on your nights? Thought you wouldn't be able to say last night, or at least check that first

 

I notice no one was interested in my idea. Nothing to say we can't.

 

Tina - not sure where you get JS trying to get you he told you to ask those questions to kivam.

I also got a tracker result N1, and wasn't allowed to mention names. That's why I'm saying he's full of it.

[Eldrick4221]

Sorry. I glanced by your idea while at work. I'm gonna go look up what it was again.