Ragnarok Game Thread - Game Over, Town Wins!

[Kivam]

I'm done with ISO's tonight, will be around for a bit longer, but I have been sat here since home from work, lol.

 

Won't be on as much tomorrow - College day :(

 

Kiv - is there a deadline yet?

 

not yet

[Leelou]

 

 

 

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/95348-ragnarok-game-thread-n2/page-123?do=findComment&comment=3543721

 

Leelou can you explain what it was you didn't like about Tina's list?

Yeah, they were all easy scum reads. Verb isn't really around, so he's coming off scummy. Cat was acting all weird, so easy scum read. I poked the CoryBear and made a read from it and people didn't really understand it, so I was scummy. Then there was wisheleste that was actually scum and the only scum read I was comfortable agreeing with her on.

Ok, the point is that there are 4 mafia and Loki.

 

Tina had 5 people she doesn't think are town, 4 mafia - Oci, you, Wishleste, Verb, 1 'null' - me

 

You have 6 people you don't think are town, 2 red - Tina, Wishleste, 1 orange - me, 3 'null' - Verb, Tabor, Ocicat.

 

Essentially swap the 2 of you and add Tabor to your list and you are suspicious of the same people. You have the same town reads, excluding the 2 of you and Tabor. So why is Tinas list 'safe' compared to yours?

 

 

I feel like you are a broken record with this. 

 

I've pointed out how the people she had in her bottom 4, I guess 5, I forgot Sooh, were all easy reads. Yes some of them are questionable, and I have them as null, but there is nothing really there to place them as scum. They are easy reads because they were the people, me included, that have done something scummy for one reason or another and as a scum it is easy to try to push lynches on them. 

 

 

I still don´t get the "easy lynch" thing. If people do scummy things it´s of course easy to see them as scummy. ???

 

 

As in easy mislynch fodder used by scum. 

[Songstress]

Tress your #936 worries me.

 

Points if you can tell me why.

I'm on mobile for the next 7+ hours, can't see post numbers. Please quote it if you can.

[Verbal32]

Bookmark for pg131 - will go from there.

 

Note:  need to look deeper into John Snow and Oci/AJ (again)

[Verbal32]

I'll have solid time tomorrow for this game.

[Verbal32]

I hope?

[Leelou]

Bookmark for pg131 - will go from there.

 

Note:  need to look deeper into John Snow and Oci/AJ (again)

 

Oh hey. You are still in this game. 

[Leelou]

I'll have solid time tomorrow for this game.

 

Miss you. Please post. <3

[Leelou]

Talya - can you pull your questions for me out of the spoiler? You don't need the quotes, just the questions. Please. It's too hard for me to go through and format it all to answer. 

[Kivam]

Vote Count

Taborline (1) - John Snow

Talya (1) - Taborline

Tina (1) - Talya

AJ (1) - Tina
 

[Lenlo]

#1072 probably a good look for Lenlo

Can your quote rather than post numbers please? Meant to ask earlier but forgot.

[Talya]

Talya - can you pull your questions for me out of the spoiler? You don't need the quotes, just the questions. Please. It's too hard for me to go through and format it all to answer.

 

There was only asking if you did ever ISO me. Don't think there was any other questions. It was mostly comments on you posts.

[Leelou]

 

Talya - can you pull your questions for me out of the spoiler? You don't need the quotes, just the questions. Please. It's too hard for me to go through and format it all to answer.

 

There was only asking if you did ever ISO me. Don't think there was any other questions. It was mostly comments on you posts.

Not fully, no. I did a partial.

[Andrej]

I'm on my phone so I'm not quoting big posts.

 

Basically I don't see Wish-tree pandering to you as her wolf buddy

[BFG]

 

 

 

http://www.dragonmount.com/forums/topic/95348-ragnarok-game-thread-n2/page-123?do=findComment&comment=3543721

 

Leelou can you explain what it was you didn't like about Tina's list?

Yeah, they were all easy scum reads. Verb isn't really around, so he's coming off scummy. Cat was acting all weird, so easy scum read. I poked the CoryBear and made a read from it and people didn't really understand it, so I was scummy. Then there was wisheleste that was actually scum and the only scum read I was comfortable agreeing with her on.

 

Ok, the point is that there are 4 mafia and Loki.

 

Tina had 5 people she doesn't think are town, 4 mafia - Oci, you, Wishleste, Verb, 1 'null' - me

 

You have 6 people you don't think are town, 2 red - Tina, Wishleste, 1 orange - me, 3 'null' - Verb, Tabor, Ocicat.

 

Essentially swap the 2 of you and add Tabor to your list and you are suspicious of the same people. You have the same town reads, excluding the 2 of you and Tabor. So why is Tinas list 'safe' compared to yours?

 

 

I feel like you are a broken record with this. 

 

I've pointed out how the people she had in her bottom 4, I guess 5, I forgot Sooh, were all easy reads. Yes some of them are questionable, and I have them as null, but there is nothing really there to place them as scum. They are easy reads because they were the people, me included, that have done something scummy for one reason or another and as a scum it is easy to try to push lynches on them.

 

A broken record? I've asked twice, three times now

 

The point you're avoiding is that with 4 mafia and 1 3rd party her bottom 5 is the same as your bottom 6, excluding replacing each other and you including Tabor. So essentially you're saying that Tina looks worse for putting your nulls in her mafia pile. You don't have different mafia reads to offer instead except for Tina, and unless you were planning on tinfoiling on your town reads before investigating your null your list is the same.

 

As for the last, you put people in your wtl for not being scummy? I don't really understand what you mean by this?

[BFG]

@Tina, I appreciate you're not asking me, but I can assure you it wasn't a slip

[Andrej]

#1188 on pg 60 maybe important?

 

First vote on the Pral wagon that I see as negative.

[Andrej]

#1260 from Sooh is better though. Wish she would've clarified originally when making that vote

[Andrej]

In #1301 Wish says that Tress/Sooh look very townie and that she trusts Cory clearing them. Not sure what to make of that atm

[Andrej]

pgs 68-69 looks pretty clearing for Eldrick to not be teammates with Wish/Celeste.

[Andrej]

I can't tell is Taborline's interactions with wish-tree on D1 are legit or not. There's a little something I noticed while reading over her ISOs, she uses the word 'distance' a lot when she talks about interactions with Celeste/wish-tree and others. Kind of pings me in a way that seems like it could be TMI.

[Kivam]

Deadline will be 5PM Eastern on Friday (44 hours from now)

[Andrej]

 

 

 

I actually hate that Pral isn't voting.

I don't see a point. My main vote would be Sooh or Talya. But, that is going to go nowhere.

I am not sure of Verbal. I don't think he is scum. If it comes to that, I will consolidate either on myself or verbal.

I will be on during the deadline.

Wait, what?

If it comes to it, you'll vote yourself over no lynch?

I just lost faith in you. And Ocicat clearly isn't happening.

[unvote]
[v]Pral [/v]

 

If I hadn't played with you before this post would stick out to me like a sore thumb. Still does, but this is pretty bad. Unfortunately I don't think I could apply it to you singularly as being scum because you're a scummy villager too.

[Andrej]

Deadline will be 5PM Eastern on Friday (44 hours from now)

 

Perfecto.

[Andrej]

Talya kind of sketches me out on pg 76 with how she handles Pral sitting at L-1. Comes off like she was looking for a reason to hammer him.

 

Pral, you had me and mosh in your bottom two now you would vote Sooh - where did change come from. Why not Mish anymore.

 

Pral, why don't you say what you think of those voting you and those not and why you think they are voting you in your eyes. Give some info for town here...if you are town