[Advanced] The Usual Suspects Mafia - GAME OVER - COPS WIN

[Yates]

I imagine Zander had a similar look on his face in Belicheat when I cleared 2/3 of the scum team...

[Songstress]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT:

 

Sephander (4): ClovFG, John Snow, Wombicat, Lenlo

Kivam (5): Hallia, Nyce, Sephander, Sili, Laine

Lenlo (3): CorKey, Razen, AJ

John Snow (2): Pral, Wish/Celeste

Laine (1): Yates

Hallia (2): Talya, Kivam

 

 

Not Voting (3): Csarmi, Nolderf, Shad

 

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

 

Deadline is Monday Aug 17th @ 9am MST/Noon EST

[Songstress]

She's not even being subtle about it.

 

Just like her daddy.

+1

[Yates]

Also, did wish or Celeste say they'd be afk this weekend?

[Zander?]

 

[cute.jpg]

I will see your cute.jpg and raise you a game related jpg...

 

 

I'm pretty sure I'm being pocketed by somebody...

 

 

Yates Confirmed Owned ITT

 

 

She's not even being subtle about it.

 

Just like her daddy.

 

lolololol

[Andrej]

Lenlo (3): CorKey, Razen, AJ

 

[Andrej]

Gonna take a break for a bit and find something to watch on Netflix.

 

BBL

[Zander?]

I imagine Zander had a similar look on his face in Belicheat when I cleared 2/3 of the scum team...

 

[Lenlo]

First thing im gonna say, I was wrong. I had thought AJ had talked with more people early on. Turns out? He did jack-all until Pg 34 and then continued to do jack-all until yesterday where he flooded us with WoTs. So alot of Jack-all of AJ imo.

 

Was planning on doing a big WOT catch-up style post, but after reading ~30 something pages and seeing that I had less than 20 posts I wanted to actually comment on, I'll forego that and just take a big consciousness dump ITT. Most topics have been touched on and repeated enough that I don't feel the need to add anything - so I'll try to bring some fresh points to the thread.
 
Shad's joke vote on Seph early on reminds me of how he started in the Belichick game, which is cool considering our synergy in that one. I had some more of his stuff quoted in the queue before I wiped them all that I liked as well. His comments towards Hallia/wish-tree are pretty villagery and carry that sort of uncanny poise he has for a newer player. Good vibes from him thus far.
 
Wish-Tree strikes me as a Hallia.2 in the first few pages of the game. Don't know what that means yet but it's the impression I got, so there you have it.
 
Hallia and Nyn are passing the eyeball test so far. Halli's coming out strong against Kiv and I think her reaction to his whining is good in the sense that she's an emotive player and I would expect her to react that way to that sort of thing. Nyn's sharpness came out once she got past her intro catch-up. She's picking up on the details I think she would as town regarding Kiv's Pral vote, and the responses to Celeste/wish-tree are the amusingly blunt type we all know and love.
 
Wombat's OP at a glance makes me think the randomizing wasn't so good to him, more gut than anything. Wanna see him get more involved once things picked up more beyond the catch up style posts.
 
Zander/Seph/Laine seem to doing that townie circle jerk thing they like to do - we'll see how that progresses. Zander is easy going but I'll be looking for when he starts to make cases after our last game together where he got by a lot on being 'Zander'. Don't really have an opinion regarding Laine picking up Mynd's torch, the stance itself is null but we'll see where she goes with it. Not much about Seph stuck out to me beyond him reiterating a lot that he really likes wish-tree/Celeste.
 
Kivish slot giving me some troubles atm. I basically hate Kivam's approach this game, first with me and then later with Pral and the subsequent backtracking, but Mish feels pretty genuine with how she's reacting to things ITT. Wouldn't really have thought Mish would be the redeeming quality for them (no offense) but if they weren't paired I would support a Kiv wagon at this point.

His first real game post. Some reads, fine.  I disagree with them myself.
 

Feels like I'm forgetting to mention something, whatever.
 
It's been a long day/night.

Aaaaand hes gone.
 

Good morning :)

Walking Oliver atm so I got a few.

Yates looking pretty good to me skimming these pages.

@Mish - remember earlier where you said something earlier about liking to set traps that no one sees and Shad said he could relate? Think about that in conjunction with his vote and statements regarding parked votes. May not have been his intent, but he could be seeing who is paying attention.

A token gesture, posting stuff that doesnt really mean anything imo and looking active.
 

Razen you seem alright.
 
I agree with you regarding Nyn/Sili and their content
 
Your point on Lenlo doesn't mean anything regarding his alignment imo

More token. Afew more of these and I can play whack-a-scum at the arcade.
 

[v]Wombat[/v]
 
Seems people are starting to echo my thoughts here.
 
Need to leave for work now, I'll try to peek at the thread throughout the day if I get the chance.

People are following your thoughts on Wombat? All you had to say on Wombat was "Wombat's OP at a glance makes me think the randomizing wasnt so good to him, more gut than anything. Wanna see him get more involved once things picked up more beyond the catch up style posts.". Wow, a gut read that you then voted for.
 
After this you had the occasional interaction with someone, but nothing gameplay wise. So really you sat around on your bum for 30 pages, made a token effort, then sat around for another 50. Great contributions. I dunno why I ever thought you had done alot. Musta mixed you up with someone.
 
After this we have all of his catchup WoTs, which I will reference rather than quote to keep this in one post. Cause spam is bad kids.
 
Pgs 1-20
This one is largely just "I like this, ill reply to this jokey post, This looks interesting". Nothing telling imo, cause the first 20 pages were pretty barren for good gameplay stuff in my opinion.
 

Interested by the vote spread that I can see without being caught up in full.
 
Can't say I'm surprised with the Kivish wagon, but the Zeph one does.
 
Speaking of which, I'll [unvote] for now since I'm still catching up.

Hes catching up and sees that his Wombat train wasnt pickin up anymore, so better hop off it. Still disagree with the Kivish thing, but thats a dead horse at this point. He does make sure we all know that he is unvoting though, bringing attention to it and justifying it when he could just unvote and get back to catching up.
 

Hi wish.
 
Don't think we've really had the chance to speak yet :)
 
I'm still reading up - who are you and your other head arguing over currently? Perhaps as I read I can find figure out why/when you each thought that person was worthy of voting.

Not all the dedicated to catching up if your also trying to talk with someone in real time at the front of the thread, are you? To his credit he does keep up the conversation, brings some stuff from earlier in the thread up and in general does a good job here imo.
 
We get more catchup WoTs, that I still think are a net negative for the thread. We dont need people constantly going back and posting WoT after WoT after WoT. Just make it succinct, please.
 
After reading all of them, which was agonizing btw, I found I disagree with a good bit of it. Reference his total reads list (post 1967, Pg 99). I found Razen to be making cases without much real backing and then using those to show "Hey I did something."
 
Yates, Nyce and CorKey are fine where they are.
 
I disagree that what Pral has posted has been content laden. Dude has 15 posts and barely anything real in them.
 
Laine is Alannalynn right? I dont like this nick name, its not consistent with the posting name. :( 
 
Still disagree on Kivam. I dont think he would make a good lynch today. I think later on he will be useful in catching stuff, his lawyerness showing, and the reasons people voting him arnt that strong.
 
Disagree with me, naturaly. You cant lynch Leno.
 

 
Tl;Dr for those who wont read. I was wrong on AJ, thought he did more early when infact he did jack all. Still wouldnt call him town, cause alot of it is silly or wrong imo, but I dont have a reason to see him lynched anymore. Gonna do Zander next and maybe seph?
 
Ill try and keep it under control though cause the last thing we need is a flood of crap.

[Lenlo]

 

Lenlo - I liked Key's case on him. I think his backing for the Zeph vote is kinda garbage (the L-7 argument doesn't matter since it's hybrid hammer) and I dislike the way he's arguing semantics over clarifying his read on me - which seemingly came out of nowhere. Really don't like the 'info' angle he's applying to it either considering he's not evaluating Kivam in the same way. He's supposedly doing ISOs now, so we'll see what he comes up with but at this point I feel my vote is best served here.

Keys case was just as much semantics and made up lines as your accusing me of arguing with. Ill try and answer this though since im readin everything.

 

Im not evaluating Kivam that way, because I dont think think Kivam would be a good lynch regardless of how many people hes interacted with. If we applied this logic to everything we would just lynch the biggest posters every time and thats stupid. Kivam/Mish acted in a way I expected them to, so what alot of you seem to have had problems with I didnt.

 

As for the hybrid hammer thing... I got nothin. I missed that part of the rules. Sorry. Guess I should read those huh?

[Yates]

@Lenlo - Can you do Alannalynn aka Lainey as well? Thanks.

[Zander?]

 

Great, 15 pages already. Ollie is playing swat the phone out of my hands and I won't be around for long, catching up on what I can.

 

who are you really?

 

 

who are you really??

 

but seriously whats this about?  is it anything relevant to the game or not?

 

also my placeholder for goodnight

 

Liking Dice/Nyn and Wish. I actually did like Mish and disliked Kiv, but I'm a bad Mish-reader and probably biased vs Kivam (out of the game stories are no-no).

 

Any other updates or reads?  What is your current thoughts on Kiv?

 

@Laine i am not misrepping you at all. My point is that taking an arbitrary list to focus on is a bad way to play.

 

BTW there is ~1/32 chance that all hydras are town.

 

i completely disagree with it being a bad way to play especially early on and with continued and developed reads from the Hydras as well as others,. that being said he staying consist on it fwiw.

 

The Maths are hard

 

 

No idea. Liked Hallya on the few pages i read.

 

I cant read Zander. He is lolololol all the time and all enthusiastic - my mind naturally filters him out after a while.

 

i like hallia too but id like too see some more thoughts on this

 

Funny I do the same you regardless of anything.......lolololololol!!!!!

 

Hi AJ. Any pointers on catching up?

 

Read imo

[Lenlo]

@Lenlo - Can you do Alannalynn aka Lainey as well? Thanks.

Uuuuugh. I suppose I could. 

 

May I ask why? And also she comes after Zander/Seph since I am currently voting them. She may also get pushed to tomorrow. Dunno.

[Zander?]

Yates talk to me

[Yates]

May I ask why?

I'm voting her. And some people claim to have suspicion on her but none of them have stepped up in my request for more info. Zander has her Town for spurious reasons but at least he is the only one who responded. :/

[Lenlo]

 

May I ask why?

I'm voting her. And some people claim to have suspicion on her but none of them have stepped up in my request for more info. Zander has her Town for spurious reasons but at least he is the only one who responded. :/

 

Can... Can you ISO her? Or are you just looking for a third-party opinion who actually provides quotes?

[Yates]

Yates talk to me

K - between toilet runs I will chat.

 

People I will vote include Lainey... then John Snow even though it will be kind of worthless because it will be an [in]activity lynch, then possibly Lenlo depending on how his updates go. I don't have a strong opinion on him yet but I like the company on that wagon the most. Can not stress enough how much I dislike the Hally wagon. Your wagon is 50/50 imo.

[Yates]

Can... Can you ISO her? Or are you just looking for a third-party opinion who actually provides quotes?

2nd opinion. I'm a man on an island and I don't know why.

[BFG]

@Lenlo, I don't understand how you can 'be wrong' on AJ like that? How can you mix up someone who did 'jack all' as someone who would provide info?

[Zander?]

 

Yates talk to me

K - between toilet runs I will chat.

 

People I will vote include Lainey... then John Snow even though it will be kind of worthless because it will be an [in]activity lynch, then possibly Lenlo depending on how his updates go. I don't have a strong opinion on him yet but I like the company on that wagon the most. Can not stress enough how much I dislike the Hally wagon. Your wagon is 50/50 imo.

 

 

agree to disagree on Alanna. 

 

Im not a fan of John Snow either but completely agree on your assessment of his flip not being very helpful and I think you look even better (like thats possible right) for it.

 

cant argue with that either.

 

100% agree with this!!!!

[Lenlo]

@Lenlo, I don't understand how you can 'be wrong' on AJ like that? How can you mix up someone who did 'jack all' as someone who would provide info?

Cause when skimming I mixed someone up probably. Go talk to the people who made this a 100 pg D1 game if you want answers.

[Zander?]

 

@Lenlo, I don't understand how you can 'be wrong' on AJ like that? How can you mix up someone who did 'jack all' as someone who would provide info?

Cause when skimming I mixed someone up probably. Go talk to the people who made this a 100 pg D1 game if you want answers.

 

 

can't say im a big fan of this tbh.

 

*innocent face* but seriously you cant blame others for your "mistake" imo.

[Yates]

 

Can... Can you ISO her? Or are you just looking for a third-party opinion who actually provides quotes?

2nd opinion. I'm a man on an island and I don't know why.

 

Also, full disclosure, I want to see if you two are teammates. Forgot I was playing this open hand.

[Lenlo]

 

 

@Lenlo, I don't understand how you can 'be wrong' on AJ like that? How can you mix up someone who did 'jack all' as someone who would provide info?

Cause when skimming I mixed someone up probably. Go talk to the people who made this a 100 pg D1 game if you want answers.

 

 

can't say im a big fan of this tbh.

 

*innocent face* but seriously you cant blame others for your "mistake" imo.

 

I thought you were a person, not a fan.

 

Seriously though, its a good thing you being a fan of it doesnt matter. 

[Lenlo]

 

 

Can... Can you ISO her? Or are you just looking for a third-party opinion who actually provides quotes?

2nd opinion. I'm a man on an island and I don't know why.

 

Also, full disclosure, I want to see if you two are teammates. Forgot I was playing this open hand.

 

Ooooh ok. While your at it Mr.Open Hand, you got any 4s?

 

Ill try and get you your thing.