[Advanced] The Usual Suspects Mafia - GAME OVER - COPS WIN

[seph]

When was that?

[Sili Quirrels]

It was last year.

[WWWwombat]

I could go for a Laine ice cream catchup right about now.

[Sili Quirrels]

Has she done anything since I was last here?

[WWWwombat]

She had one wall I remember that I kinda liked.  I don't remember when it was though.

[Lenlo]

 

I can't read Lenlo, like at all. Whenever I try I get static.

I'm not living him this game. The dance he's doing with key makes it seem like he's avoiding having to justify a read. Him piggybacking corys point about me after Cory had already acknowledge what I was getting at is pretty sketchy too.

 

What dance? She said something I think is wrong, so I flat out said it. As for not "justifying" my read I have already told you and probably 4 other people, directly, that I planned on rereading when I wasnt tired as all heck and show clear examples of things I felt were off.

 

As for the Cory point, maybe it was piggy backing, but I didnt read Corys response until after I made my comment about your post. I quote, comment and then continue reading. Its easier that way for me. I prefer running commentary.

 

Lenlo who are your scum leans. I saw you vote us, but it seemed like it was mainly because zander had interactions with the whole thread, and he would produce the most info.

 

I would quote it if I could, but I want to make sure I'm reading it right.

You/Zander and AJ atm. All of you have left me with bad gut feelings, and as I said previously I am going to go back and get clear example quotes of what has thrown me off. I felt comfortable voting you on such a kinda meh ground cause it only put you at L-7. You werent getting lynched anytime soon and I wanted to apply some pressure somewhere with my vote, cause at that moment it was just sitting on a joke vote.

 

Also incase you missed it I disagree with the Kiv/Mish train. They are being contrary. Its what I expect of them. Mish atleast has yet to really surprise me and Kiv I havnt played with before.

[Razen]

Okay I'm starting at page 20 from where I posted #390 and going to the top of page 39 at #761

 

 

 

#400 This seems off to me (kiv's comment); I think I've only seen Pral as town and he's always a low poster, but has good reads. Does that mean when he's mafia that he posts pretty much nothing the entire game? lol That may be a problem. (stance explained in 421, Kiv has only played in game with Pral as scum)

 

 

Not my intent.  I only played with him as scum, at least that I remember, so that's all I know.  But I'm not a fan of lurkers of any alignment, so prodding for content is part of my D1 play anyway.  I'd point you to AJ's Pulp Fiction game where I did the same thing ... but I was scum there, so that's not all that helpful anyway

 

If you only played with him as scum, then you shouldn't be using meta. You clearly said that as scum he lurks. That's the basis of your vote. Only he is a low content poster regardless of his alignment. Whether you approve of low content players or not is irreverent.

 

You didn't place a vote for reaction. You placed a vote, while characterizing his absence as scummy.

 

Nyn, this is exactly why I don't like meta as it is used.

 

#440 Darthe ain't even read the thread but he's tossing out reads? How does this work dude?

#451 "Hydracism" Cool.

 

Last few posts of Darthe's have been rather jokey instead of adding to the Sili/Kivam back and forth or, well, anything.

 

 

 

 

 

@Nyna: So, are you going to answer my question seriously now?

 

You could technically read old games to get a grasp on meta, but considering the sheer amount of players in this game, it would take ages and I wouldn't recommend it. I think meta is used a lot more on D1. Once the games progresses, cases shift more towards content and less on meta. So it won't be such a gap going forward. As for now.... if someone mentions a player's meta and absolutely no one disputes it, you can more or less rely on it, IMO.

 

How is that supposed to help us if we are new here? D1 isn't all about meta though as it's a new time to force new reads on a totally different game.

 

I like you.

 

Unfortunately, mafia on DM is primarily meta driven lately.  It's silly, since half the time people get the meta wrong (for instance, I've basically been scum my last few games here and few people have played with me as town, so stuff I do all the time is likely to get meta'd as "that's what you do as scum!") and the better players can keep their meta consistent across alignments anyway.  Just make reads and judiciously factor in any meta commentary you do get, and you'll be fine

 

I see. I just find it odd that she was suggesting reading a whole game instead of like interact with people in thread.

 

Ew Celeste, don't like this assumption. You're throwing Nyn's comment in a bad light by suggesting it like that. I don't like how this post is worded at all. LOL Nyn's response $470

 

#480 Shad/Z agree Mish's response to my LAH overreaction

#485 This post is cute

#491 Zander, if you're a gemini, we can't be friends because I'm capricorn and apparently they don't mesh very well together. I'm sorry.

 

And to answer why the Zander-Alanna town reading: Zander has responded how I expect him to thus far, so I have a town read on him. Anything less and I wouldn't have one. Townie support system, ftw? lol

 

 

 

 

You might as well choose 8 other random slots and focus on eliminating through them first. There is no logic in choosnig hydras specifically first. If you're gonna try and lynch me, do it on my actions, not because I'm hydra or have a odd-numbered slot or whatever. It's just an excuse for setting up lynches and I really don't ffeel it.

Overreaction?

 

 

Mish overreacts a lot in games. It's kinda null for her. It's more Kivam's content that's giving me pause right now.

 

 

I dont have any mets on Mish but it seemed like an overreaction to me but Ill take your meta knowledge into consideration dear Nyn.  Also agree with not being a fan of Kiv's posts thus far/

 

Question on Mish meta: would Mish under-react (for lack of a better term) as mafia or would the reaction be the same/more? I'm curious how to get good read on her if she's pinging already with that overreaction and I don't want to miss something because of it.

 

 

Here's what you need to know about my meta: I'm emotional and angsty and tend to get emo, I also like to set up traps that no-one else sees are traps so I usually end up getting lots of heat, and my schemes always end up biting me in the ass. Also, if I think I've caught scum I will usually go into full tunnel. Generally, I'm a mess!

 

I think we can relate to something here!

 

 

#515 Wish, not to toot my own horn, but those are the only two games I kinda played okay in. The rest are all crap imo LOL Also your siggy is so CUTE

 

[v]Seph[/v]

 

Hally, I think that means you have to a

Stay and share.

Hally,real quick. Are you town?

 

And kiv, grudges man... they don't belong in this game. If your town, I don't want any clouded judgement, or a vendetta here.

all it does is cloud things up.for the whole game, so please please dont...

 

I honestly can't explain why this stood out to me as scummy, but this post just sounds awkward and completely unnatural to me.  

 

I don't care at all about Kivam's policy lynching of AJ or Laine policy lynching a hydra, in regards to their alignments.  Both voiced their gripes before the game started, and them actually "following through" (I use that term lightly) is no more likely to come from mafia than town IMO.  What I do care about IRT to Kiv is his vote on Pralaya, who is notoriously quiet as any alignment.  The fact he's only seen Pral as mafia makes it kind of fit, but then why vote at all?  

 

I didn't like Mish seemingly taking exception to Alanna's hydra efforts - and acting like she was being singled out - but her response to Laine sounded pretty good to me. 

 

Sili's discussion with Kivam actually makes me feel pretty good about him.  His response about the ambiguous words is something I actually see Town!Sili arguing, and it wouldn't be the first time that his posts suggest one thing and it's completely different than what he's actually thinking.

 

I like Hallia's activity, and she's already putting herself out there more than she did in Harry Potter.  I disagree with the reasoning of her vote, but her answer to my question wasn't bad and she actually seems to press the issue further.  

 

/snip

 

Woah. Hold up there Clov. Kivam's vote on Andrej was for a grudge. My LAH spiel isn't me "policy lynching" anyone and it's not just me arbitrarily voting hydras for lynches. I think there IS some method to judging the hydras and singling ALL of them out as a group. One being all these fudging posts. I'm about 30(?) pages behind right now because there are 28 people in the game, 30 including the mods. I almost dropped out of the game because of all the hydras that joined because I didn't think I would be able to keep up. So now we have all these hydras and twice as many heads to look at in each slot to catch slip ups. Besides that, taking out one hydra cuts out two posters each. You, and others, are acting like there is no reason for me being focused in on these heads when there are more chances to find inconsistencies than there are elsewhere.

 

At the same time, that doesn't give me a pass to ignore the rest of the game at all and I have no intentions of doing so once I'm caught up.

 

Second point: re Mish: How can you both not like Mish's reaction but like her response? Explain more on this please

 

#581 I completely agree with Clov here. There was no reason for Kiv to bring up meta to bring out Pral, that's just asking for a reaction imo

 

#582 BFG's reads list. Mostly null on BFG here since this is normal for her, just less detailed, I'll leave it up to this being a large game. (I'm not caught up yet... )

 

 

Nyn - what about Kivam's content did you not like?

 

What caught my eye at first was the way he was supporting Laine's hydra hate campaign. Some others agreed with her as well (like Zander, wind and so on), but he went about it differently. Obviously I think the whole theory is a bunch of BS because it's 100% arbitrary (oh look, I used percentage so it must be true!). But the way he was trying to make it more than what it is, using mathematical certainty, reeks.

 

I didn't realize at that point that he and Mish are hydra, and I kinda liked how she was standing her ground, but looking at the interaction between them now... it looks awkward. I mean, sure, she gets defensive at anything. But then he explains to her how it totally does make sense (which it doesn't)... and she bows to his everlasting wisdom and backs off? Considering how strongly she felt about the entire thing?  Feels off.

 

But what really struck a chord with me was his reasoning for voting Pral. He dismissed my comments about it, but it's right there. He was trying to misrep Pral. It's great that he only played with him as scum.... but he can't make an accusation based on meta if he doesn't know Pral's overall meta. His responses ranged between.... oh I only played with him as scum so that's all I know.... to him claiming that his vote was just made for reaction since Pral hasn't checked in yet. Which I don't really buy. He could have dropped a nudge vote for activity rather than use a bogus meta reason for that vote.

 

^

 

Unfortunately there's probably a good chance I should have let that read develop before talking about it since if nothing else Clov can talk his way out of most things for a long time and I don't like giving people time to correct things they might not pay attention to about themselves in active games before things are ultimately decided

 

But lord knows I have trouble shutting my mouth

LOL at you shutting your mouth

 

pg 32/33 Note: Little thrown off by Cory prodding the BFG half about how she interacts as mafia. You've claimed to be able to read Clov really well, so where are you at with that slot? (Zander/Shad later comment on this and add Cory as town)

 

#655 Cory please don't take this tone of post with me around.

 

I am reactive. Been taking fire all game and just don't have much WiM at the moment. Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

 

#671 NOLDER HI re: my hydra post: A) what's wrong with me narrowing down my POE to 8 slots? B) how did it work as a conversation starter?

 

#673 Dice calls out me promoting killing some game bloat, but I'm perpetually 30 pages behind so... ???

 

what happened to your fixation on hydras?

I'll get back to this man, calm yourself

 

#723 Yeah, hate to mention this Mish, but you can't really call people out for people being unable to keep up when part of the bloat is due to the hydras being in the game. I can't even get through this catch up without avoiding sleep and I don't have anyone to ping reads and thoughts off of. I feel like every time I make a dent, suddenly 5 pages are added. Yates beat me to this #726

 

/snip

Difference between the two, Zander commits to a vote on Kivam/Mish later on in the thread.  He piggybacks Sili to do so, but he has a reason.  Laine just seems to be egging it on, but not really wanting to commit to it herself.  Her vote's also been parked on Nolder and Darthe for a while.  It leads me to believe that she hasn't left the lynch all hydras thing.  If I recall, it's why people were pushing Kivam because Laine's was game related and his wasn't.  But Kiv/Mish have progressed beyond that, while Laine hasn't yet.  Which given that we're now into the content-phase of Day 1 is somewhat alarming.

@Razen: Wasn't really committing to anything there, just liking the vote after Mish came off as defensive and negative toward my LAH stance and Kiv reigned her in. Yes. My vote is parked. I haven't had a chance to moved it yet because I'm EXTREMELY behind.

 

 

 

[unvote]

Okay. I think I've complained enough about being so very behind; it's actually extremely frustrating for me. And I'm probably not going to catch up to here today right now because I actually should go to bed eventually. What's currently going on?

 

So, did you notice anything inconsistent in the hydras up to the point where you had read?  If you're going to focus on them for now, I'd like to see what you thought about them.  I don't really agree with the way you've justified it at this point, but it's a starting point, as you've said.  And to follow up with it, as you said to Sili in your catch up here.

 

I understand being behind, it's tough to keep up with this much posting going on.   I know I'm struggling with it too.  Cutting the jokey/fun parts out what you've responded to, I like most of what you've caught up with.  I think you're blowing up the point about Celeste. I don't think it's painting Nyn's comment in a bad light, really.  I'm chalking it up to the fact that she's not played with a lot of the people here before, so it doesn't really feel to me like she's trying to make Nyn look bad.

 

I like the point you're making about Darthe, it's something I've noticed as well.  His other half is making somewhat more sense to me.  When you get to the point where Nolder has posted his reads list, I'd like to hear what you think about this slot.

 

Just before your point re: 581 - who's the second person you're referring to with the second point you're making about Mish?  It's not entirely clear from the context, I know the first is Clov, but not sure who the second is.  Was it Seph who was in Clov's quote you'd pulled?  I'd also like to see clarification on what you meant with the not liking the reaction and liking the response.  That seems to me like it's a fence-sitting move if I've ever seen one on the part of the people you'd called out.

 

#581 - If you think it's looking for a reaction, did you see the reaction you were looking for? If yes, from whom?  And did it make you feel better or worse about that player?

[Sili Quirrels]

 

IT is pretty obvious what Zander is talking about. I find it lol that people even bothered to nitpick it.

 

Care to enlighten us nitpickers?

 

 

Also, Lenlo getting involved on D1 is a pleasant surprise.

 

 

I did.

 

[Razen]

 

 

I can't read Lenlo, like at all. Whenever I try I get static.

I'm not living him this game. The dance he's doing with key makes it seem like he's avoiding having to justify a read. Him piggybacking corys point about me after Cory had already acknowledge what I was getting at is pretty sketchy too.

 

What dance? She said something I think is wrong, so I flat out said it. As for not "justifying" my read I have already told you and probably 4 other people, directly, that I planned on rereading when I wasnt tired as all heck and show clear examples of things I felt were off.

 

As for the Cory point, maybe it was piggy backing, but I didnt read Corys response until after I made my comment about your post. I quote, comment and then continue reading. Its easier that way for me. I prefer running commentary.

 

Lenlo who are your scum leans. I saw you vote us, but it seemed like it was mainly because zander had interactions with the whole thread, and he would produce the most info.

 

I would quote it if I could, but I want to make sure I'm reading it right.

You/Zander and AJ atm. All of you have left me with bad gut feelings, and as I said previously I am going to go back and get clear example quotes of what has thrown me off. I felt comfortable voting you on such a kinda meh ground cause it only put you at L-7. You werent getting lynched anytime soon and I wanted to apply some pressure somewhere with my vote, cause at that moment it was just sitting on a joke vote.

 

Also incase you missed it I disagree with the Kiv/Mish train. They are being contrary. Its what I expect of them. Mish atleast has yet to really surprise me and Kiv I havnt played with before.

 

 

 

 

I can't read Lenlo, like at all. Whenever I try I get static.

I'm not living him this game. The dance he's doing with key makes it seem like he's avoiding having to justify a read. Him piggybacking corys point about me after Cory had already acknowledge what I was getting at is pretty sketchy too.

 

What dance? She said something I think is wrong, so I flat out said it. As for not "justifying" my read I have already told you and probably 4 other people, directly, that I planned on rereading when I wasnt tired as all heck and show clear examples of things I felt were off.

 

As for the Cory point, maybe it was piggy backing, but I didnt read Corys response until after I made my comment about your post. I quote, comment and then continue reading. Its easier that way for me. I prefer running commentary.

 

Lenlo who are your scum leans. I saw you vote us, but it seemed like it was mainly because zander had interactions with the whole thread, and he would produce the most info.

 

I would quote it if I could, but I want to make sure I'm reading it right.

You/Zander and AJ atm. All of you have left me with bad gut feelings, and as I said previously I am going to go back and get clear example quotes of what has thrown me off. I felt comfortable voting you on such a kinda meh ground cause it only put you at L-7. You werent getting lynched anytime soon and I wanted to apply some pressure somewhere with my vote, cause at that moment it was just sitting on a joke vote.

 

Also incase you missed it I disagree with the Kiv/Mish train. They are being contrary. Its what I expect of them. Mish atleast has yet to really surprise me and Kiv I havnt played with before.

 

When you say Kiv and Mish are being contrary, is that something you're expecting from other hydras as well?  Or is it just that specific slot?

[keyholder21]

Trying this for the THIRD TIME . If my responses sound a little snippy, it's because DM ate my post twice (TWICE) instead of posting.

 

 

 

*snipped*

So reading this was fun cause the quotes are bonked. Clov only asked me when did I mention AJ before that post, not why I had him on the list.

*snipped*

-.- It was totally implied. You said “As I said before, AJ is a good lunch.” If someone says where did you mention them before, they are looking for where you explained your read, dude.

 

I disagree dear, but I digress.

 

 

Really? You are telling me that if YOU asked somewhere where they talked about Player X previously and they pointed you to a post that said "Player X would be a good lynch" but DIDN'T give any reasoning for it, you would be content?

 

*snipped*

You're actually right about this, but only because I figured you actually HAD explained the read and seeing where you brought them up WOULD give the reasoning.  So since we're talking about it...what IS your reasoning?

 

Isn't this basically what I said? Why does this distinction need to be made?

 

*snipped*

I was thinking this the whole time I have been reading about kiv. I was in a ongoing game with him, before this and helped lynch him day 2. I went and read it again and the biggest difference is the way he reacts to the pressure. As scum he kept trying to push his angles, and seemed to have more of a bravodos in ghat game, where as this one, he seems more defensive.

 

I'm hoping to get a chance to fully catch up tonight, but this is were I am currently.

These four I feel the worst about atp.

Kiv hydra I'm fine with the vote here for the moment. Zander is being able to be more active than I have, so I trust his reads.

Nolder hydra- I don't remember much besides neither of them wanting to play catch up.

Js the parts that we're pinging me are right where I currently am in my read, so I will have some quotes later.

Hallia I don't really remember much from hallia. Her opening seemed fine to me, but that is all I have on her.

 

I do not trust, And I never will.

Clov

Cory

 

Right now yates and nyn are my stongest town reads, followed by sili and wishtree.

I really feel like I'm lacking in the town department, for the amount of pages we have.

 

Seph, real quick, explain how Kiv's defensiveness here vs. bravado in a different game means he's scum. In fact, please talk more. I feel like you will be easier to read than Z and I'm not going to lie, Cory's hesitation on you guys is the main reason I haven't moved my vote over. Okay, one of the main reasons. The other being that I want to actually go back and reread the Z/Kiv cluster...mess because I feel like there is a lot of he said this, no he said this instead going on and I'm fuzzy on details. But I'm tired and feeling lazy right now.

 

 

Why is Sili a town read?

 

The reasons are crap.

 

:p

 

 

Wow so many people disliked my Darthe vote...   

 

@Mish, tell me why I should know Darthe is town?

 

Where did she say that?

 

No I'm not town reading him. I would hardly call one game meta though, it's something I want to keep an eye on as the game progresses. Meta does help, but it shouldn't be solely used for a push. Right alanna :)

 

Kivam hasn't ignored the posts towards him, I believe he has interacted with you all with your opinions towards him, he has been dodging or deflecting would be better terms I think.

 

The biggest worry I have with Kivam is the way he has been misinterpreting things, and I am around the area were he apparently was misrepping Pral, with alot of statements he made towards him

 

Okay, this is a little better re: your feelings on Kiv. Please show me the "alot" of statements where he misrepped Pral? I remember the "when he was scum" line, but what else is bothersome to you? 

 

I remember him misrepping me too =/

 

 

He put more effort into my game with him.

 

These are straight up egging on posts.

 

I could go for a Laine ice cream catchup right about now.

 

Yeah. Definitely underwhelmed with her right now. I know she said in signups that she was busy (at least I think that was for this game), but I seem to recall her sticking to her LAH feelings so far and I'm not happy about that. I could be misrepping her here though. I need to go back and read her spoilered post again because I think I glossed over it when I was trying to catch up before leaving work.

 

You/Zander and AJ atm. All of you have left me with bad gut feelings, and as I said previously I am going to go back and get clear example quotes of what has thrown me off. I felt comfortable voting you on such a kinda meh ground cause it only put you at L-7. You werent getting lynched anytime soon and I wanted to apply some pressure somewhere with my vote, cause at that moment it was just sitting on a joke vote.

 

Also incase you missed it I disagree with the Kiv/Mish train. They are being contrary. Its what I expect of them. Mish atleast has yet to really surprise me and Kiv I havnt played with before.

Gut feelings are the only reason? Any feelings on anyone else? I feel like these are easy reads to pull out.

 

I follow, actually, with vote applying pressure, but in this instance idk that I agree with just parking it on one of the highest trains for a 'meh' reason. Easy and scummy.

 

Bold - if you don't know Kiv then how do you expect it from them?

[csarmi]

Wooo 3 hours and i will be down at the lake.

[keyholder21]

Going to crash. Luckily this weekend is highly abnormal in that grandparents are supposed to pick up the kids tomorrow afternoon for an overnight stay, so I should be back on mid-to-late tomorrow afternoon. I'll try then to look back at Laine's post and the Z/Kiv kerfuffle.

 

At the moment, not super enthused with:

 

Len - attitude, lack of effort so far, easy reads, scummy leaving of vote on high train

Laine - said above

Zeph - before review, feeling like they came off worse in the spat with Kivish. I can't read Zander. I don't know when he's serious and when he's not, and I can't get a toneread here. I like Seph's posts a lot better, but he hasn't been around.

Sili - I feel like he's egging a lot of people on, but not offering much himself. This will be clearer when I slog back through older posts tomorrow.

Snow - attitude and lack of effort thus far.

Nolderf - could you guys, like, play?

CS - same. If you're going to replace in, could you play?

ClovFG - I feel better about Clov than I do about BFG, though I admit that some of that is probably Cory's influence. I do think that Clov is explaining things in what seems to be a purposefully obtuse way (I think I stole that phrase from Womby earlier).

 

 

I feel much better about Womby and Pral after today. Still want more content from Pral, but I liked what he's posted so far.

[keyholder21]

Oh and I forgot Talya. I still don't really remember much that she's done. Not too excited about her either.

[csarmi]

Ohhi Key. How is it going?

[csarmi]

Oh play. Yes I could. Busy weekend but i guess i shall find some time.

 

I replaced in as an emergency backup but that doesn't make the timing right for me.

[Nolder]

I'm here.

 

I'll read back a few pages to see what's going on.

Anyone want to talk while I'm here?

[Sili Quirrels]

Key, you misread those posts.

 

These are straight up egging on posts.

 

At first I assumed Seph also played in the same game I did. When I said Kivam misrepped me, I was agreeing with the meta.  And when I said Kivam put more effort into a game he was a wolf in, I was referring to meta again.

 

That was what the conversation was. I was not egging on anything.

 

 

Mish was saying on page 64 that randomly voting Darthe was scummy. IT's only scummy if I should have a town read on him. Now I am egging her on to get a response. :)

[Nolder]

How do you do ISOs or whatever again? I'd be willing to do Kivish and Sender since they're the biggest trains and give a more detailed opinion on them.

[csarmi]

How do you do ISOs or whatever again? I'd be willing to do Kivish and Sender since they're the biggest trains and give a more detailed opinion on them.

click search in top right corner (eithout entering anything), advanced search comes up, enter exact player name. adjust some settings (like view by topics and maybe the order shown)

[Sili Quirrels]

Thread feels dead.

[Sili Quirrels]

Might be because it's a friday night.

[Lenlo]

Razen - Just them two. Mish from what I remember of her and Kiv from what I have heard. Thats why I expect them to be this way.

 

 

 

 

*snipped*
So reading this was fun cause the quotes are bonked. Clov only asked me when did I mention AJ before that post, not why I had him on the list.
*snipped*

-.- It was totally implied. You said “As I said before, AJ is a good lunch.” If someone says where did you mention them before, they are looking for where you explained your read, dude.

 

I disagree dear, but I digress.

 

 
Really? You are telling me that if YOU asked somewhere where they talked about Player X previously and they pointed you to a post that said "Player X would be a good lynch" but DIDN'T give any reasoning for it, you would be content?

 

You/Zander and AJ atm. All of you have left me with bad gut feelings, and as I said previously I am going to go back and get clear example quotes of what has thrown me off. I felt comfortable voting you on such a kinda meh ground cause it only put you at L-7. You werent getting lynched anytime soon and I wanted to apply some pressure somewhere with my vote, cause at that moment it was just sitting on a joke vote.
 
Also incase you missed it I disagree with the Kiv/Mish train. They are being contrary. Its what I expect of them. Mish atleast has yet to really surprise me and Kiv I havnt played with before.

Gut feelings are the only reason? Any feelings on anyone else? I feel like these are easy reads to pull out.

I follow, actually, with vote applying pressure, but in this instance idk that I agree with just parking it on one of the highest trains for a 'meh' reason. Easy and scummy.

Bold - if you don't know Kiv then how do you expect it from them?

 

First quote: Content? No. But if I wanted to know someones reason for voting them then I would explicitly ask them. I wouldnt expect them to provide it if I didnt ask for it. Especially when in the very same post they said it was a gut catchup read. Thats because they already gave me a reason, even if it wasnt satisfactory, they fulfilled the requirements. This whole thing is an issue because of someones lack of reading comprehension and it aint me.

 

Second: Already said I was going to go back and find examples of why. Please, pay attention im starting to get alittle snippy with having to repeat myself.

 

               The highest train? They have 4 votes key. Thats not a train. Its not even a kiddy ride at an amusement park, its L-7 for some pressure. They were and still are in very little danger of getting lynched unless alot of other people start feeling the way I feel about them. So no, I dont see it as a big deal.

              From what I have heard and the reputation he has in my mind. He is the Kivam gambit guy, the guy from the D&D forums who aint afraid to shut someone down if they are being stupid. Thats what I know of him

 

Going to crash. Luckily this weekend is highly abnormal in that grandparents are supposed to pick up the kids tomorrow afternoon for an overnight stay, so I should be back on mid-to-late tomorrow afternoon. I'll try then to look back at Laine's post and the Z/Kiv kerfuffle.

At the moment, not super enthused with:

Len - attitude, lack of effort so far, easy reads, scummy leaving of vote on high train
Laine - said above
Zeph - before review, feeling like they came off worse in the spat with Kivish. I can't read Zander. I don't know when he's serious and when he's not, and I can't get a toneread here. I like Seph's posts a lot better, but he hasn't been around.
Sili - I feel like he's egging a lot of people on, but not offering much himself. This will be clearer when I slog back through older posts tomorrow.
Snow - attitude and lack of effort thus far.
Nolderf - could you guys, like, play?
CS - same. If you're going to replace in, could you play?
ClovFG - I feel better about Clov than I do about BFG, though I admit that some of that is probably Cory's influence. I do think that Clov is explaining things in what seems to be a purposefully obtuse way (I think I stole that phrase from Womby earlier).


I feel much better about Womby and Pral after today. Still want more content from Pral, but I liked what he's posted so far.

My attitude? Cause im annoyed at answering the same question how many times now cause people cant read? Sure. Easy reads, fine. Lack of effort false. High train is crap.

[Lenlo]

Forgot to mention, been having some fun with the ISO things people showed me. Glad I know how to do this now

[Nolder]

Wow I read back like 15 pages had like 7 posts multiquoted but when I pressed the button only these 2 popped up. :/

Whatever...

 

 

 

Awake for a few mins. What's the current drama?

 

Lol.  At some point you guys will have to stop trolling and actually play you know.

 

The trolling hasn't even begun. We're both just overwhelmed.

I did tell Darthe in our QT we got to suck it up and put some more work into this game though.

I know ya'll unhappy with us but it is what it is.

 

 

2. Wombicat (Wombat/Ocicat) - wombat is talkative but haven't seen him do any real scumhunting, I'm guilty of this myself so w/e. no idea who OC Cat is.
3. Seph/Zander hydra - No opinon.
4. Hallia - Good so far.
5. Sili - Dirty filthy spammer that needs to be eradicated for everyone's sanity.
6. Kivish (Kivam/Mish) - Like Mish's posts and don't dislike Kivs posts. Think there is probably already at least 1 scum on their train hoping it will build.
7. Laine - no opinion
8. Shad - no opinion
9. Talya - seen a couple posts but didn't read'em. Seems to be keeping up so good chance of being town.
10. Pralaya - no opinion. Has he checked in yet?
11. Lenlo - no opinion
12. Yates - Seems invested in some conversation or another. Yates is a tryhard though so that's pretty null imo.
13. Nyce (Nyn/Dice) - haven't really read their posts but I hope they are town because that's a scary combo
14. John Snow - no opinion
15. ClovFG (Clov/BFG) - BFG is nice. Clov I don't know very well. no real opinion
16. Beck Csarmi - I guess he posted but I didn't see it
17. CorKey (Cory/Keyholder) - Haven't noticed key posting but Cory seems to have good thread presence. don't think he has a problem with that as scum though. I'd guess if he's really keeping notes ask to see some of them eventually and if true he's town. I've never known scum to keep notes myself.
18. wish-tree/Celeste hydra - they seem talkative no real opinion on them though
19. Nolderf (Nolder/Darthe) - please kills us. this is an abomination.
20. AJ - no opinion

^Quoting that sucked, btw. What is with all the stupid extra code?

Okay, so what does that mean for Wombat? Is that good? Bad? Null?
How are you null on Z/Seph?
So you think Yates is doing this all for show?
-.- @ not remembering my posts.

 

I probably copy/pasted from the OP without pasting as plain text. My bad.

 

Wombat: Null. He's pretty similar to me. He can joke and just kind of lurk around as scum or town.

 

Sender: Haven't read enough of their posts to have an impression sorry.

 

Yates: No I didn't say that. He could be though. Tryhards will tryhard regardless of alignment. 

 

Key: Sorry. Same with Sender. I think you're underestimating how badly I've been skimming thus far.

[Nolder]

 

How do you do ISOs or whatever again? I'd be willing to do Kivish and Sender since they're the biggest trains and give a more detailed opinion on them.

click search in top right corner (eithout entering anything), advanced search comes up, enter exact player name. adjust some settings (like view by topics and maybe the order shown)

 

Thanks. I really should write down how to do this or something because I always forget. I usually just do it manually because when I reread I like to reread everything to get the best context you know? 

 

Anyway I'll see about doing some ISO tonight.