Belichick - Mafia Eternal Night

[Shad_]

[v]Thane Vakarian[/v]

 

Yay!

[Hallia]

I don't see it on Shad.  Can I get some good reasoning on that?

[alannalynn]

i'm currently trying to re-read. It takes time at work. i've said so before. Ignore that, if you want.

 

[v]Hallia[/v]

 

you're grasping., tunneling... whatever... 

 

I'll be back in a few hours (!) when i have managed to reread while AT WORK

Thane I'm pretty sure she was just asking for responses to her recap, which is all on the same page?

 

 

Shad probably a wolf tho.

 

Sheep me or don't. Not likely to change my vote D1

Not seeing it, Andrej, I would need more convincing.

 

See: OMGSUS

LOL

[Shad_]

is it wrong to say that people who haven't even played yet shouldn't be lynched? I don't think so. 

 

I'm wary of people who either fully townread me D1 or vote me D1.... people who townread me D1 have TMI, in my opinion. People who vote me go for an obvious easy mislynch D1. That's how i feel about it, anyways.

 

As for Zander, i get more of a town feeling than null on him. I honestly think that we'd notice in his gamestyle if he'd have randed wolf. And, in the case of him fooling me, i'll disown him.  

 

D1 is the hardest day of the entire game. I'm better at connecting dots after a flip than reading players on what is said D1. 

 

I've been looking over your D1 posts in American Gods and yeah, you weren't super involved D1, but you were asking decent questions, trying to get better reads.  I feel like you're already settling into Star Wars mode here.  Your D1 lines are don't lynch the quite guys and Zander = town, and it kind of came to a hard stop there.  OMGUS on Hallia was pretty weak.

[Hallia]

Laine get out of my head!

 

Side note: I know we normally don't see eye to eye in games, I AM LOVING THIS!

[alannalynn]

Laine get out of my head!

 

Side note: I know we normally don't see eye to eye in games, I AM LOVING THIS!

Did I already mention I'm suspicious of town reading you? Btw, I'm suspicious because I'm town reading you. Make it stop.

[Hallia]

 

Let me try a better way

 

 

 

*runs away from thread to be inactive for FOREVER*

[alannalynn]

 

Let me try a better way

 

*runs away from thread to be inactive for FOREVER*

Okay good feelings gone. lol

[seph]

Official Vote Count 7:

 

Verb (1/7): Rand

Laine (1/7): Dice

Shad (1/7): AJ
Thane (2/7) Hally, Shad
Hally (3/7) Thane, 
No Lynch (1/7) Yates, 

Not Voting (6/13):

BFG, Verb, Laine, laya. Zander, Tayla

[alannalynn]

But for reals though:

Town: Zander Shad
Townish: Hally Andrej Yates
Mixed/IDK: Talya BFG
Scumish: Dice Thane

Null: Verb Pral Rand

[Andrej]

Thane being a sudden D1 wagon should be enough.

 

I'm willing to settle on him saying he's not scum to let him ride. Shad/Hallia scum imo

 

Maybe both? Don't feel particularly good about either

[Hallia]

I'm trying to just towntell as much as possible as was suggested.  Here's hoping I do a good job of it this time!

 

I am going to head to bed.

 

Just for the night.

 

Totes not for like two or three IRL days.

 

 

 

 

But seriously, see everyone tomorrow

 

OR WILL YOU!??!?!

 

 

You will.

 

 

 

 

[RandA lThor]

Woah too much content on pages 21-22, I'll go through that later. Sorry for not posting, went on some family trips, tried to log in to notify you guys, but wasn't able to get into DM.  WoT coming up. WARNING: Didn't participate in most of the early game banter, so a lot of these will include that.

 

 

 

 

Beer is gross

 

[v]alannalynn[/v]

Really Shad? Lol It smells gross, it tastes gross. Give me liquor (and lots of it) and I'll be set

 

First non-town read, immediate knee-jerk reaction to an obvious joke vote, but then tries to kind of appeal to the voter, which again is useless for joke votes.

 

Hahahaha thanks Hallia... Now I have two votes for hating beer and chocolate ice cream.

 

The whole reason for the ice cream is because it's not real chocolate. Chocolate ice cream tastes like a said cold version of real chocolate.

You keep bringing it up... I used to think of this as a good strategy for scum, attract attention to the people piling on joke votes and hope that people think that they're scummy, and then you jump onto their train.  Scummy read #2

 

 

Hey AJ

I feel like I got a little insight to you by watching your QT (totes not a stalker)

Can we form a cluster of town and win this?

(Also, Unvote   - Because it wasn't for anything you've done, you don't seem wolfy to me.)

I feel like I'm gonna get a lot of hate from the things I don't like. <3

 

Hally confirmed stalker

 

Town core ftw?

 

 

What if I said it's not the taste but the consistency? I also don't like strawberries for that reason. LOL sorry Andrej..

 

Shad I don't see what you're seeing in BFG. More of a null for me since I don't know her well enough in the game

 

Eh, I wrote a post, realized it had a double meaning, verified that one of those meanings was false, thought "heh, I wonder if anyone else will notice too" and clicked post.  Someone did.  I don't expect that sort of page 4 analysis out of scum.

Odd but okay. Shad you towning again this game?

 

Once again, bringing up the votes on her. Not a positive sign.

 

 

 

 

 

So. Wait. All the vig's target Darth and we ALL win N1?

This game just went into easy mode. It's 2nd and Goal from the 1 with 26 seconds left in the game and we're only down by 4 with Beastmode ready to rumble. What could possibly go wrong?

"Thank god things can" - fellow Niners fans

 

 

probably never lunching Rand- From a Fellow 9ers fan lololol

 

Yee, we Niner's fans gotta band together in the middle of all this offseason turmoil. ;(

 

So basically anyone who is NOT a 9ers fan is obv wolf imo!!!

I mean, this is pretty much obvious logic.

 

Hah 9ers

If its possible to kill the mod in this game Darthe, it will happen.  It will.

 

 

So basically anyone who is NOT a 9ers fan is obv wolf imo!!!

 

revenge is sweet

 

I can't live a lie anymore.  I have to confess.

 

 

 

I'm a Pats fan.

 

 

wtf dude... what. the. f.

 

but srsly, thanks for beating the Seahawks. :D Richard Sherman's face of depression and sadness when he realizes his team lost the SB will fill my happiest dreams for years to come.

 

 

 

I can't live a lie anymore.  I have to confess.

 

 

 

I'm a Pats fan.

 

 

 

Gross....shad prob wolf....lololololol

 

 

9ers are my favorite NFC team right now!  I swear it!

 

......Well, they were until they fired Harbaugh.

 

............And the NFC sucks.

 

I'm digging my hole deeper, aren't I?

 

Yes. Yes you are.

[Hallia]

What do you not feel good about AJ?

[Hallia]

The answer to that I will read tomorrow!

 

If you're brave enough to post it! >=D

[RandA lThor]

 

 

 

 

Probably should have switched my last post around. Looks like i'm agreeing to Yates shooting me. Ugh

 

I don't watch sports.

 

just say go 9ers lolololo

Go 9ers?! 

 

The only teams I actually cheer for, on principle, are my SC high school team (Go Dorman Cavs) and the Carolina Panthers because I live in Spartanburg and it's required.

 

the best way to play this after looking at the set up again is to preserve the vigs. So VTs need to town tell like crazy and vigs shoot from within the pov. Hero shots probably aren't gonna win this

I agree on this. Towns need to town really hard so there's no mistakes. I like the thought of another town victory 

 

I can get along with the Panthers, they're similar to what the Niners were when they were on the uprise, star LBs, good D-line, underrated CBs, mobile QB, stellar TE.

 

yeah, i think the vigs should mainly holster. like i said, it'd be town suicide. And, i think it was yates who said that we need a smaller POE, so we're ore certain to hit wolves. With quite the amount of vigs... it'd make sense.

 

On the other hand... wolves also have vig shots, next to their regular NK? that'd be a possible massacre for town N1. On the other hand, the pool ofsuspects would be smaller.... ugh... posibillites and choices.... 

The indecision here and the attempt to find a valid town strategy seems genuine here.  First town read.

 

 

I think if they had nightkills as well, this could be over pretty quick. to me looks like they just have those 4, but this is a Darthe game, besides, I think that would be a too powerful wolf team.

 

 

SHOULD the wolves use their vig shots N1, the pool of suspects would get rather small. So, imo, they have a NK as well. It's going to be interesting how this will play out

 

imo obv solution LUNCH all wolves!!

 

 

so out your team mates now then yes?

 

You know he gave us the setup right? Idk if this is townie or scummy.

 

But I don't like the second comment.  Not as in townie or scummy, I just don't like those comments, they don't give any sort of reads, they just attract false reads.

 

I didn't think enough had been said to decide yet.

 

It was a joke, but you're not obv town to me, this game is still to early to tell.

Hmm, don't like this, seems like fence sitting to me.  switch that null to an early non-town read for me.

 

 

 

 

People who have not said much of anything yet:

Verbal

Laya

Dice

Rand

 

Odds say at least one active poster is wolf.  

 

I don't have strong feelings towards anyone really, and probably won't until the game picks up.  Chatting about football and strawberries doesn't reveal much.  AJ feels different in a good way and I really liked BFG's interaction with me, but meh it's still pretty early.

 

The opening post reads to me as no NKs beyond the vig shots.

Sorry about that, explained above.

 

Received mod permission to make one post.  Sorry it's still, couldn't find an animated one.

 

 

 

1. In the event of a draw wolves win by default.

2. Wolves have no nightly kill.

3. Mafia Role PM:
Darthe - You are Otto Graham, Wolf 1x Vigilante. Once , during the night phase of the game, you may submit a kill on a single individual. Your team wins by eliminating all members of the town from the game.

There are 10 Town.

There are 3 wolves.

Wolves get 4 kills.

If we no lynch all game and never use our vig shots we win 6-3.

[v]No lynch[/v]

Game is solved.

 

Town read, even though this was debunked later, it seems like a townie solution to a game, not something mafia .. k my thoughts just changed mid sentence, I'll leave this as some sort of thought trail I guess.

 

If mafia was in their QT trying to figure out how they were going to win this game and realized this, they might have asked Darthe in the thread, and he gave them the answer.  Which would put a scummy read on Yates and Shad for working together.  However, thats pretty heavy tinfoil, so current town read on both for what they did, and I'll keep this in the back of my mind.

 

Yates, you know that's not gonna fly - right?

Didn't like this post, even if it probably won't work, its worth a shot for autowin right? Why didn't you vote? Were you trying to stall until mafia could think of something to do? Biggest scum read.

 

 

It was a joke.  >_>

 

All wolves have to die for a town win.

Talked about 2 posts up, but town read for now.

 

Lol you're right Shad - debunked.

 

I'm not sure Yates was joking though

This supports my whole stalling theory, waiting for someone to debunk it.

 

 

Speaking of odds...

 

Odds to Win the 2015-16 NFC West 
Seattle Seahawks -- -250 
Arizona Cardinals -- +450 
St. Louis Rams -- +650 
San Francisco 49ers -- +900

Woah, Niners below the Rams, I'd take thoses odds anyday, people exaggerating our collapse so much.

 

 

So basically anyone who is NOT a 9ers fan is obv wolf imo!!!

 

 

 

 

:D I love it when we play the Packers

[RandA lThor]

 

 

lets look at this.  Have I been here?  No. Is that my first post on return? YES. Could it have been a joke while i was catching up? YES.

 

Did you react badly? YES.

Ive been gone for awhile, but this seems like normal dice.

 

 

Yes i joked. with like my SECOND POST.  Keep talking laine  throwing blame like that is making me more certain

 

yates test seemed jokey in nature yet he is calling poeple town off it.

 

AJ was sudden with that vote on shad. I think he saw something that caused a gut vote

I don't care if it was your first post, second post, 20th post.. we're on page 18 and you posted a joke vote in the middle of game talk instead of adding to the current goings-on. Do you at least see where I'm coming from? Look back at how I reacted to the other votes on me, I even commented that I'll probably get vigged tonight as a joke. So you can't really say my comment was an overreaction.

 

Ehh, seems like you're reaching to find a reason to turn him into scum for a joke vote, anti-town read.

 

 

Well who would have figured on July 4th nowhere would be open? I really really wanted Asian food of some sort but all closed. At least I have booze. I'll just make a pizza 
 
Thane always pings a little. I would feel bad lynching him though after Star Wars

  

So he pings a little but would feel bad after SW game Why. He was wolf there, why would you feel bad here

 

This reminded me, another scummy read on Laine, don't like the whole feeling bad for Thane thing.  Makes me think you know what side Thane is on.

 

Middle Earth was a bit unconventional in a sense because it had two scum teams so even as a wolf I could genuinely town/scum hunt. Probably also one of my (if not the) best games to date so I wouldn't consider the standard for how I play imo.

Anyway - good morning :)

Eh, this seems like he's trying too hard to make people seem he is town by giving ideas of what his scum self is like, Not buying it.

 

So basically town reads on Yates, Shad, and Thane

Scum reads on Alanna, Talya, AJ

 

For now, [v]Alanna or Laine?[\v] not good at nicknames sorry

 

 

 

Official Vote Count 7:

 

Verb (1/7): Rand

Laine (2/7): Dice

No lynch (2/7): Yates, Talya

Shad (1/7): AJ
Thane (2/7) Hally, Shad
Hally (1/7) Thane

 

Not Voting (5/13):

BFG, Verb, Laya, Laine, Zander, 

 

 

is that a typo on Laine or no?

[alannalynn]

Thane being a sudden D1 wagon should be enough.

 

I'm willing to settle on him saying he's not scum to let him ride. Shad/Hallia scum imo

 

Maybe both? Don't feel particularly good about either

I really just want more time to figure Thane out, but I think his response to Hallia asking about his reads was a little snippy. I haven't seen anything scummy from Hallia as of yet, are you just placing her there because of your scum lean on Shad and that she supports the Thane lynch with him? Curious.

 

Hallia is actually a lot more solid than I've seen her in the past which is good because what has struck me about her in previous games is the fluffy-ness coming from her. I don't see much fluff right now, which I consider good.

[alannalynn]

lets look at this.  Have I been here?  No. Is that my first post on return? YES. Could it have been a joke while i was catching up? YES.

 

Did you react badly? YES.

Ive been gone for awhile, but this seems like normal dice.

 

 

Yes i joked. with like my SECOND POST.  Keep talking laine  throwing blame like that is making me more certain

 

yates test seemed jokey in nature yet he is calling poeple town off it.

 

AJ was sudden with that vote on shad. I think he saw something that caused a gut vote

I don't care if it was your first post, second post, 20th post.. we're on page 18 and you posted a joke vote in the middle of game talk instead of adding to the current goings-on. Do you at least see where I'm coming from? Look back at how I reacted to the other votes on me, I even commented that I'll probably get vigged tonight as a joke. So you can't really say my comment was an overreaction.

Ehh, seems like you're reaching to find a reason to turn him into scum for a joke vote, anti-town read.

 

 

Well who would have figured on July 4th nowhere would be open? I really really wanted Asian food of some sort but all closed. At least I have booze. I'll just make a pizza 

 

Thane always pings a little. I would feel bad lynching him though after Star Wars

 

So he pings a little but would feel bad after SW game Why. He was wolf there, why would you feel bad here

This reminded me, another scummy read on Laine, don't like the whole feeling bad for Thane thing.  Makes me think you know what side Thane is on.

 

Middle Earth was a bit unconventional in a sense because it had two scum teams so even as a wolf I could genuinely town/scum hunt. Probably also one of my (if not the) best games to date so I wouldn't consider the standard for how I play imo.

 

Anyway - good morning :)

Eh, this seems like he's trying too hard to make people seem he is town by giving ideas of what his scum self is like, Not buying it.

 

So basically town reads on Yates, Shad, and Thane

Scum reads on Alanna, Talya, AJ

 

For now, [v]Alanna or Laine?[\v] not good at nicknames sorry

 

 

 

Official Vote Count 7:

 

Verb (1/7): Rand

Laine (2/7): Dice

No lynch (2/7): Yates, Talya

Shad (1/7): AJ

Thane (2/7) Hally, Shad

Hally (1/7) Thane

 

Not Voting (5/13):

BFG, Verb, Laya, Laine, Zander, 

 

 

 

is that a typo on Laine or no?

Hi Rand! I haven't seen you in forever lol

You can call me Alanna or Laine, I don't care either way.

 

Bold: Not really reaching for a reason to turn him into an anti town read. I didn't even put him to a scummish read until I looked back to see how he behaved as scum in the Mass Effect game, because someone brought up that he wouldn't tunnel as mafia. I was more exasperated than anything when talking with Dice last night.

 

To the underlined: Not really, I felt really bad pushing the lynch on Verbal/Thane hydra in Star Wars because I forced the lynch to go through after getting a guilty cop read and I was kinda mean. This game though I can't be sure and that makes me uncomfortable.

[Shad_]

 

Thane being a sudden D1 wagon should be enough.

 

I'm willing to settle on him saying he's not scum to let him ride. Shad/Hallia scum imo

 

Maybe both? Don't feel particularly good about either

I really just want more time to figure Thane out, but I think his response to Hallia asking about his reads was a little snippy. I haven't seen anything scummy from Hallia as of yet, are you just placing her there because of your scum lean on Shad and that she supports the Thane lynch with him? Curious.

 

Hallia is actually a lot more solid than I've seen her in the past which is good because what has struck me about her in previous games is the fluffy-ness coming from her. I don't see much fluff right now, which I consider good.

 

 

That's how I read it.  AJ was playing for town in Star Wars and his tunnel vision was a work of art.  I think the whole tying Hallia to his scum read of me spews him town.

 

Btw I'm totally getting vigged tonight if AJ has a shot.  :P

[RandA lThor]

 

lets look at this.  Have I been here?  No. Is that my first post on return? YES. Could it have been a joke while i was catching up? YES.

 

Did you react badly? YES.

Ive been gone for awhile, but this seems like normal dice.

 

 

Yes i joked. with like my SECOND POST.  Keep talking laine  throwing blame like that is making me more certain

 

yates test seemed jokey in nature yet he is calling poeple town off it.

 

AJ was sudden with that vote on shad. I think he saw something that caused a gut vote

I don't care if it was your first post, second post, 20th post.. we're on page 18 and you posted a joke vote in the middle of game talk instead of adding to the current goings-on. Do you at least see where I'm coming from? Look back at how I reacted to the other votes on me, I even commented that I'll probably get vigged tonight as a joke. So you can't really say my comment was an overreaction.

Ehh, seems like you're reaching to find a reason to turn him into scum for a joke vote, anti-town read.

 

 

Well who would have figured on July 4th nowhere would be open? I really really wanted Asian food of some sort but all closed. At least I have booze. I'll just make a pizza 

 

Thane always pings a little. I would feel bad lynching him though after Star Wars

 

So he pings a little but would feel bad after SW game Why. He was wolf there, why would you feel bad here

This reminded me, another scummy read on Laine, don't like the whole feeling bad for Thane thing.  Makes me think you know what side Thane is on.

 

Middle Earth was a bit unconventional in a sense because it had two scum teams so even as a wolf I could genuinely town/scum hunt. Probably also one of my (if not the) best games to date so I wouldn't consider the standard for how I play imo.

 

Anyway - good morning :)

Eh, this seems like he's trying too hard to make people seem he is town by giving ideas of what his scum self is like, Not buying it.

 

So basically town reads on Yates, Shad, and Thane

Scum reads on Alanna, Talya, AJ

 

For now, [v]Alanna or Laine?[\v] not good at nicknames sorry

 

 

 

Official Vote Count 7:

 

Verb (1/7): Rand

Laine (2/7): Dice

No lynch (2/7): Yates, Talya

Shad (1/7): AJ

Thane (2/7) Hally, Shad

Hally (1/7) Thane

 

Not Voting (5/13):

BFG, Verb, Laya, Laine, Zander, 

 

 

 

is that a typo on Laine or no?

Hi Rand! I haven't seen you in forever lol

You can call me Alanna or Laine, I don't care either way.

 

Bold: Not really reaching for a reason to turn him into an anti town read. I didn't even put him to a scummish read until I looked back to see how he behaved as scum in the Mass Effect game, because someone brought up that he wouldn't tunnel as mafia. I was more exasperated than anything when talking with Dice last night.

 

To the underlined: Not really, I felt really bad pushing the lynch on Verbal/Thane hydra in Star Wars because I forced the lynch to go through after getting a guilty cop read and I was kinda mean. This game though I can't be sure and that makes me uncomfortable.

 

Haha hey!!, OK was your nickname Alanna before, because thats what I remember calling you and I don't know if I'm going crazy or not :P

 

Haha feeling guilty because you were mean... I can get that.  I'm going to wait until I can get a better reread to change my vote, but although you're still a scummy read, less so than before.

[Shad_]

Rand's catch-up is really weird because it flows like he's responding post-by-post without reading everything first but he seems to have his sights on Laine and Talya straight out the door.

 

Still, Laine would be a pretty ballsy target for scum to try and set up as an early mislynch.  I'd like some input on Rand's typical town and wolf styles.

[alannalynn]

@Rand: I actually used to be AJ before Andrej was AJ so that's probably why it's confusing haha. I understand what you're saying though, I've been getting better at being town read

 

I just noticed your first post with my responses to the joke votes: you make it seem like I was setting up scum reads on people just for joke voting me? Seems like a strange conclusion, but I may be reading that wrong.

 

 

 

/snip

/snip

 

That's how I read it.  AJ was playing for town in Star Wars and his tunnel vision was a work of art.  I think the whole tying Hallia to his scum read of me spews him town.

 

Btw I'm totally getting vigged tonight if AJ has a shot.  :P

How does tying Hallia to you spew him town?

and Lol I'm feeling the same way

 

[Shad_]

Also, I've never played in a game where scum have limited night kills.  Is it optimal to lynch someone before EoD?

 

If the person about to get lynched claims town with a vig shot, do we hold off the hanging, reach a consensus on our second best option, and order them to shoot that person at night?  Assuming town isn't going to fake claim a vig it would help clear poe and potentially burn a scum shot.

 

I don't know that we're going to have two strong candidates in the next 12 hours anyway, but is D1 going to maybe get extended to compensate for all the server outages?

[Shad_]

@Rand: I actually used to be AJ before Andrej was AJ so that's probably why it's confusing haha. I understand what you're saying though, I've been getting better at being town read

 

I just noticed your first post with my responses to the joke votes: you make it seem like I was setting up scum reads on people just for joke voting me? Seems like a strange conclusion, but I may be reading that wrong.

 

 

 

/snip

/snip

 

That's how I read it.  AJ was playing for town in Star Wars and his tunnel vision was a work of art.  I think the whole tying Hallia to his scum read of me spews him town.

 

Btw I'm totally getting vigged tonight if AJ has a shot.  :P

How does tying Hallia to you spew him town?

and Lol I'm feeling the same way

 

Because town AJ is hyper-judgmental.  In his head he's already so convinced I'm scum that he's basing his reads on other people around how I interact with them.