Alien mafia [BASIC] - Game Over - Town won

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

 

Well it's nice to know my gut isn't entirely wrong (re. Eldrick), although obviously not good that we're now two town down. I don't know enough about Yates and his playstyle to comment on whether the NK on him indicates an experienced Mafia team, but i'll be guided by others.

 

Oh oh, and, yates died because he caught your slip i bet.

 

 

Who is this quoting?

[Sili Quirrels]

What slip?

he assumed eldrick was town to slander the ppl on eldrick's wagon.

[Sili Quirrels]

 

 

Well it's nice to know my gut isn't entirely wrong (re. Eldrick), although obviously not good that we're now two town down. I don't know enough about Yates and his playstyle to comment on whether the NK on him indicates an experienced Mafia team, but i'll be guided by others.

 

Oh oh, and, yates died because he caught your slip i bet.

 

 

Who is this quoting?

 

dae because he was agreeing with someone else that yates died because the scum team was experienced. =/

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

OK...I found the quote above...let's see where this goes...

 

Vote Dae

[Darthe]

Right.

 

Yeah I can see that panning out.

[Clovdyx]

Vote Count
 
Dae (3) - Sili, Verbs, Notbob
Darthe (1) - Sooh
Talya (1) - Dae 
Sooh (1) - Darthe

 

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch
 
Deadline - Friday noon EDT

[Sili Quirrels]

Right.

 

Yeah I can see that panning out.

 

u vote dae 2.

[Darthe]

Ok

 

[unvote][v] Dae [/v]

[Aiel Heart]

I'm adding Sili and NotBob to the mafia game of insane people. 

 

Read up and going to do a reread and try to piece things. 

[Sili Quirrels]

I'm adding Sili and NotBob to the mafia game of insane people. 

 

Read up and going to do a reread and try to piece things. 

I think... this is possibly your best post, but you're basically always catching up AH. Is there a world  where you're town and I'm not seeing it?

 

[unvote]

[v]Aiel Heart[/v]

 

To balance wagons, and also bring dae down to l-3. I think a dae lynch is optimal, considering his posts and yates' death, but I want to see how he responds to the pressure first.

[Aiel Heart]

I'm actually caught up, I'm just rereading.

 

I can't post from work, and as this is the first week of summer camp I'm coming home a little fried, so my activity is not going to be quite what it should be. That is not indicative of my alignment, only my situational ability.

 

Can I have a substantial reason for your vote that doesn't concern my real life? 

[Clovdyx]

Vote Count
 
Dae (3) - Verbs, Notbob, Darthe
Darthe (1) - Sooh
Talya (1) - Dae 
Aiel Heart (1)  - Sili

 

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch
 
Deadline - Friday noon EDT

[Clovdyx]

...I may or may not have forgotten what game I was reading.

[Sili Quirrels]

I'm actually caught up, I'm just rereading.

 

I can't post from work, and as this is the first week of summer camp I'm coming home a little fried, so my activity is not going to be quite what it should be. That is not indicative of my alignment, only my situational ability.

 

Can I have a substantial reason for your vote that doesn't concern my real life? 

No other reason that what I mentioned, but understand just because you say a something doesn't mean I believe that something.

 

This is mafia.

[Shad_]

Dae's posts so far:

 

 

 

page 3:

Hate to break up the domestic, but checking in...

Two votes on one already? I know Verbs is shifty as hell, but that was quick. Any other options?

 

page 5:

Eldrick's vote did seem bandwagon-ey, but he did retract it pretty much immediately. I'd normally take that as misplay, and i'm certainly not going to hold taking Darthe's play seriously against him as it is only due to other games that i know it was probably a joke. 

 

Votes notwithstanding, Eldrick's accusers are Alanna, Darthe, Sili and Hallia. Possibly NotBob as well. Five people gunning for one target on Day 1? I'd say you could guarantee one mafia in that list, if not two.

 

The only other lead is supposedly Verb's activity (too active and then not active). Still not overly interested in that argument as i don't think it would be that indicative. On an activity note, i have services all day tomorrow so might get a chance to check in by mobile between rehearsals, but probably not around til Monday. 

 

page 11:

Right, checking back in. Initial thoughts on read through as follows:

 

Talya and Alanna have got some good evidence (for Day 1) on Eldrick. My gut is still saying he just made a mistake, but my gut seems to be out of practice in other games and there is nothing to say it's improved here! I think i may just be rationalising his action based on my own mistake in American Gods, which would be logical but unhelpful. In which case I should really follow the evidence, which has certainly been convincing enough for me to lean towards Eldrick as Mafia. I'll hold off on my vote for a couple of hours to internalise what i've read, as i'm still not 100% behind it.

 

Sili's conduct concerns me. The presumably jokey "i'm not lynching these guys" could be simply a joke, or it could be trying to bail out teammates - in this case Darthe who has come under suspicion. Darthe, i have little read on as there are minimal substantive posts, so I don't want to definitely put these pair together, but it just doesn't gel for me. The way he held off on the Eldrick train until later could be he was seeing which way the wind blew, picking his target and giving the bandwagon more steam as a Mafia ... or it could be he simply waited for the evidence. I'd say i'm leaning Mafia here but only slightly. Definitely keeping my eye on him though.

 

The other person I think deserves scrutiny is Shad. He's strongly pushing a defence for Eldrick, which if he flips Mafia would put him top of my list for lynching. He starts the Darthe lynch presumably to try and take some of the heat off Eldrick, who then jumps on the lynch with him. This could just be a desperate player looking for an out, or a genuine attempt to start a rival bandwagon. The way he is clashing, particularly with Darthe, doesn't seem right. Even if Eldrick doesn't flip Mafia, i don't think he's in the clear. A Mafia could offer a strong defence to a townie day 1, knowing his teammates would get the bandwagon over the line and then claim credit later to deflect suspicion. This may be a bit too advanced for a newer player, but we'll see i suppose.

 

page 11:

 

Note: I am quote snipping to the pertinent bits:

 

Votes notwithstanding, Eldrick's accusers are Alanna, Darthe, Sili and Hallia. Possibly NotBob as well. Five people gunning for one target on Day 1? I'd say you could guarantee one mafia in that list, if not two.

Hallia wasn't gunning for me. She had an issue with me bringing up N0 peeks. I agree with the rest of that list, and your observation that there is probably at least 1 wolf in it.

 

Daetirion - how confident are you in Eldrick being Town? Your observation quoted above only makes sense in a world where Eldrick is mod confirmed Town and I don't understand how that line of reasoning would occur to you/have any merit to make it post worthy in a world where that is not the case.

 

 

Sorry, only spotted this on reread. That call was based on my gut read of it as Eldrick just making a mistake, which initially i was moderately confident in trusting. Per above, my position has altered somewhat on Eldrick (and my gut in general). Should he flip Mafia, the point is moot, but should he flip town I still think there is a good chance some Mafia have jumped on it. It all depends i suppose on how lurky the Mafia team are playing. 

 

 

page 12:

 

 

Sili's conduct concerns me. The presumably jokey "i'm not lynching these guys" could be simply a joke, or it could be trying to bail out teammates - in this case Darthe who has come under suspicion.

I'm simply reading that as "these are my two strongest Town reads." Is there a reason you think there's more to it than that?

 

It's an odd way of putting it, and combined with his other behaviour I don't like it. 

 

And re. Darthe, you have two votes on you, of course you are under suspicion. I can't get a read as you rarely post substantively and i haven't played with you before, but i'd lean town and if you bother to read my post you'll see I don't think those votes are motivated by any actual belief you are Mafia. 

 

Also, you're not getting a TL:DR - put the effort in, read the post, and let me reminisce when Mafia games involved posts of quality rather than quantity. 

 

 

page 12:

Having reread again, and nothing else really having cropped up, I'm not seeing a viable alternative so per my previous posts [v]Eldrick[/v]

 

page 16:

Well it's nice to know my gut isn't entirely wrong (re. Eldrick), although obviously not good that we're now two town down. I don't know enough about Yates and his playstyle to comment on whether the NK on him indicates an experienced Mafia team, but i'll be guided by others. 

 

Not quite sure what Sili is getting at on me setting up mislynches. My posts will normally be substantive and set out what i think about my main suspects, and my reasons for doing so. You may not buy the fact I accepted Eldrick's defence, but at the end of the day I similarly screwed up big time in American Gods about 24 hours before Eldrick screwed up here. Without a doubt i was influenced by that, which is why i was more inclined to believe Eldrick - and tied to the swift condemnation from multiple sources it really looked like Mafia scenting weakness and heading in for the kill. After some time to reflect, and evidence presented, it seemed to me that I might be bias due to my actions, and accordingly went with the evidence. It's hardly surprising that my confidence took a knock after bowing out of American Gods so early due to a stupid mistake.

 

Talking about stupid mistakes, i feel we need to talk about the hammer drop. The gap between my vote and Talya's hammer was 12 minutes. We were very lucky that Eldrick didn't have a role, 'cause he sure as hell didn't get a chance to claim it in that time. Yes he could have claimed earlier, but standard meta back in the day was to claim as a last resort - if you didn't have to, don't do it! Talya either made a big mistake, or mafia were deliberately waiting to shut the door on Eldrick asap. She is clearly expecting some heat for this action (justifiably!) and she knows it was wrong - it's arse covering, but is it mafia arse covering? Added to that, Talya then disappears presumably to keep a low profile and hope some distractions show up and her mistake will just be swept under the carpet, and it seems to be working. Mafia trying to throw us off the scent and cover for her?

 

[v]Talya[/v]

 

 

[Aiel Heart]

@ Sili--Your reasons being: 

*You didn't like my other posts (saying the one you quoted was my "best one")--care to explain why?

*I'm "basically alway catching up"--First off, this doesn't necessarily make me scummy. Secondly, I'm actually not, I just have a busy real life. I don't see why you are taking this as an issue for me when there are other people who have also been fairly inactive for similar reasons. It's not hard to stay caught up in this game, thus my current reread (on page 8). I'm also not sure why you're indicating that you disbelieve my real life is hectic, but whatevs.

*You want to balance the wagons and see how things go there--fair enough

 

Sooo address the question at the end of star number 1?

Also (if the answer to that one doesn't do it), what makes me the best option of vote for you at this point?

 

Back to reread

[Sili Quirrels]

Scum tend to be more inactive and make more excuses and not have reads or sheep reads rather. I think its pretty clear i think dae is scummier than u ah.

[Shad_]

Eldrick's vote did seem bandwagon-ey, but he did retract it pretty much immediately. I'd normally take that as misplay, and i'm certainly not going to hold taking Darthe's play seriously against him as it is only due to other games that i know it was probably a joke.

 

 

And re. Darthe, you have two votes on you, of course you are under suspicion. I can't get a read as you rarely post substantively and i haven't played with you before, but i'd lean town and if you bother to read my post you'll see I don't think those votes are motivated by any actual belief you are Mafia.

 

 

um...

[Shad_]

Or did I misread the hell out of that and he's talking about other games with Eldrick?

[Shad_]

*she

[Shad_]

...Ignore me please.  Dae is talking about knowing from experience that there wasn't an N0 peek.  I thought the whole post was in response to something else because she didn't quote what she was replying to.  I thought I caught something really obvious and I didn't.  :\

[Darthe]

Did I call ah a wolf earlier?

 

I hope so

[Sili Quirrels]

her post was pretty defensive.

[Sili Quirrels]

Did I call ah a wolf earlier?

 

I hope so

r we a team darthe?

[Hallia]

Heart's post doesn't read to me as defensive.