American Gods Mafia [Advanced] - mafia win

[Darthe]

Morning, glad you liked the movie.

[Darthe]

 

 

The narrative is very obvious btw. I declare intent to hammer on a villager. Turin is already on the wagon for ~reasons. He begins to try tying me to Sili with some big tinfoil plot about a bussing gambit. I hammer the townie. Suddenly Darthe (the other wolf) now believes it's me, but more notably, with Seph and not Turin who he previously stated would be lynched after Thane "ftw"

Don't fall for it.

The only narrative present here is the one you create in this post. I have one target tomorrow and it isn't Seph and it isn't Turin, I'll figure them out after I take out you and pull this game back together

Wasn't it you who told Seph that by now he should be able to remove one townie from the pool of 4 to find the wolf team? Funny that you'd decide I am your target for tomorrow and that you still need to figure out the other two. Good show though.

On the merit of your claim, I'm calling BS. What was really the point of you claiming in the manner you did? There's no tangible evidence that you can prove with it and at best it implies that your death will cease to give us coroner reports. Again - calling BS on that. To me you claiming in the manner you did is a preemptive excuse for the reason you're alive when Day comes.

Here you say it's an excuse for me to be alive when day comes

[Darthe]

 

Also in what universe was I ever going to be the NK tonight? My claim comes specifically because it can draw the NK and that will leave you without a mislynch and still with (Wombat and Dice, is that confirmed?) to contend with. If I get lynched tomorrow we lose so it's necessary that I do everything to clear myself by then.

You weren't and still aren't. Firstly because you're a wolf but secondly even with your "claim" it doesn't make you a priority. From an objective standpoint you aren't worth the kill in this situation because your role is passive and can't be vetted without you dying. Your motive wasn't to clear you and draw a NK. It's to get out ahead of the rush to give yourself a plausible explanation why you weren't targeted over a pair that can vouche one another as confirmed villagers.

There was no point to your claim in that situation from a villager standpoint.

Yet here I was never going to draw the Nk regardless. Also I happen to agree I won't draw the Nk, your reactions have shown as much. But i could have.

 

Trying to paint me in terms of "these are your motives" is a great example of the sort of rhetoric you use as a wolf where you're no longer targeting me, you're instead targeting the group trying to cast events with the explanation you provide. "there was nopoint to your claim" is another of those, the intent being to convince others that my reasons don't exist. A townie would show how they were flawed or incobsistent.

 

Finally I'll point out that if I was never going to be the NK before my claim and still wasn't after then why would I need to 'rush' to get out ahead of the two confirmed townies?

 

I repeat, Aj intended me to be the final mislynch because I was the clear path of least resistance. This is all evidence that he is still scrambling to turn me into a mislynch. He knows my claim is real but he has no other choice, I think that's pretty clear from his posts.

[Andrej]

This is getting dumb. Continue working your angles though, I think my point was clear. The best you can do is try to show how I'm making contradictions in this petty manner because you know in the long run you can't get me lynched otherwise.

 

You don't need to claim in that situation nor does your claim vet you by any means. Frankly a coroner doesn't fit in this game but I'll at least give you that it fits with the flavor. It seems the Mods came up with some pretty good ones for you guys. Your claim provides you with "evidence" in thread to explain the lack of your death, the likelihood of it before isn't relevant to this point. The fact that you weren't likely, however, makes your claim a lot less convincing to me. There was no point to it except to give up free info to the mafia team during the Night phase. You don't do something like that as a villager

[Andrej]

We'll just see what happens when Day comes. No one else is talking and I'm not gonna continue spinning in circles.

[Andrej]

Nice work on the semantics though.

[BFG]

All actions are in

 

Some more music from Jacks Crocodile Bar while you're waiting :)

 

 

 

 

 

[Turin Turambar]

 

 

Your actions give it merit especially with this narrative spin you are adding to it along with Turin. You guys have some solid safe claims but I think the door of slamming shut at this point. You have floated this entire game. You have been consistently late to the party and generally done little work for yourself.

 

Thane's flip outted you for the way you avoided it. Similarly it does with Turin for his parked vote and then focus on me using outdated D1 evidence.

 

So it's to you I will say GG to. I've had you pretty firmly picked as a potential since D1 and knew sooner or later it would come down to this.

My posts using D1 evidence was to show how you were taking credit as pushing Sili all of D1 when that was clearly not the case. You deny you said you were pushing him all of D1? All I did was show that wasn't the case at all. Funny how you saw that evidence is outdated. Like it ceases to exist once it i the next day. All the thread is there to be looked at.

 

My vote wasn't "parked". I had my suspicions and I voted with them. I have my suspicions on you too. I also have suspicions of Darthe. I still haven't gotten to go thru all of his posts yet. I will try to do that tonight.

Blah blah blah.

 

Blah blah.

 

You're a wolf dude, let's cut to the chase. We both know if I'm alive come Day break you are going to vote me so you can drop the front about your "suspicions"

 

On the note of highlighting that I falsely pushed Sili D1, while you were doing your research did you find anyone else mentioning or questioning Sili in the manner I did? Probably not. But continue to spin this narrative that I bussed him intentionally to clear myself while neglecting the events of D2.

 

Yada Yada Yada...

 

Bolded is irrelevant. It doesn't matter if anyone else questioned him on D1. I was showing that you didn't really go hard on him all day. Especially when his wagon grew. It is your actions that I am looking at and how they correspond (or more accurately don't) with what you were saying when you proclaimed yourself cleared for leading the Sili lynch and being on him all of D1.

 

Underlined: what events of D2 are you referring to? You pushed/bussed him hard D2. I gave my opinion of why I think you did it. I think there is sufficient factual evidence to reach that conclusion. Do you deny that you proclaimed yourself clear for doing so? And then attempted to shout down Seph when he questioned you?  Your refusal to even allow others to consider the possibility of you being teammates with Sili is what originally drew my attention to it. 

 

 

Oh and I note how you have preemptively posted how I'm going to vote you straight away. Gr8 b8.

 

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[Andrej]

I protected Dice btw.

[BFG]

A life like any other is unlike any other.

 

He'd been there for a long time. The first traders came over from Egypt carrying their belief with them over three thousand, five hundred years ago. It had been a long life, but the funeral parlour was recent, it had only been relatively recently that they'd discovered their niche in funerals. It suited Mr Ibis, he could pen his stories about those that had died, after all, fundamentally all history was a lie written by somebody with imperfect understanding. There was a man, he lived a really long life and then he died. The rest is details.

 

Dice has been killed

 

 

 

He was Mr Ibis, aligned with the Old Gods (town) a Mason

 

epitaph It doesn't matter that you didn't believe in us, we believed in you.

 

 

[BFG]

VC 4.0:

 

Not Voting (5): Darthe, Seph, Turin, Wombat, AJ

 

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch

 

Deadline is 10.30PM BST on Monday June 15th

 

 

 

IT IS NOW DAY <3

[seph]

I protected Dice btw.

errrrm

[BFG]

**************BREAKING NEWS************

 

If you want our vote you only have to ask. THIS SENTENCE IS NOT A THROWAWAY SENTENCE. We only want to live.

 

-THE REPORTER

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[BFG]

All actions have now been sent out. If you're expecting something and haven't received it yet, please let me know :)

[Andrej]

FFS

[seph]

FFS

So I was hoping for more than this. especially when you ninja bfg saying you protected him

[Andrej]

I am Shadow Moon. My role is Town Bodyguard

 

N1: Wombat

N2: Wombat

N3: Dice

 

My hope was that with how the wolves are trying to spin this gambit narrative that I would turn up dead and flip villager to completely screw their plans and out the both of them for good. I knew the kill had to be between the Masons and seeing as how Wombat was probably an obvious choice and how Dice getting killed would make me look bad considering his uncertainty of me I tried to cover him. I picked right but apparently got blocked which outs Turin undoubtably imo considering his claim of a RB power.

[Andrej]

[v]Turin[/v]

 

Him and Darthe.

 

Don't blow this game town

[seph]

aj i don't think i am buying your ninja post.
If you are a bodyguard you didn't have a reason to claim. Everyone knew dice was town, or if the read notbob should of known.

this reeks of fishyness

[Andrej]

Then don't believe me Seph.

 

I wanted my target to be known because if I covered correctly (which I had!) I would've died in his place and I didn't want confusion to be had over it.

[Andrej]

Answer this for yourself though Seph:

 

If I'm a wolf then who is my partner?

 

I'm legit here and have been this entire game. Don't buy this crappy spin narrative Darthe and Turin are trying to work ITT. Look at the progression since Thane became the obvious D3 lynch - it's been all about discrediting me. The best thing I could've done last Night was die to vet myself, and I would have if not for the wolves having some sort of blocking power.

[seph]

Then don't believe me Seph.

I wanted my target to be known because if I covered correctly (which I had!) I would've died in his place and I didn't want confusion to be had over it.

How is this a villagery reaction.

If you were town I would think you would want me to understand your thought process here.

 

If darthe and turin were the last two as you said, you would not shut me out like this. You would be trying to convince me.

[seph]

I am not using their spin on this aj. I'm using my post above.

If their is a 3p we lose as town.

If there is it at least seems like he wants to help town win

[Andrej]

If anything, look at the claims we have and think about the mechanics of how those roles interact.

 

Does a coroner fit?

 

A JK would, possibly, in conjunction with my role because it doesn't allow circular protection - but then again in a game where 3-4 villagers could all be confirmed AND alive at the same time I doubt village also has a role that allows them to completely stuff a NK. It's just too over powered if the wolves can't get through to that group of cleared townies.

 

My power let's me save someone but I die in their place and then there is no more protection.

 

THINK ABOUT IT

[Andrej]

Seph I'm not going to argue with you.

 

This is the game if you vote wrong.

 

I am a villager. You need to vote with me today if you are a villager. Can I be anymore clear?