House of Cards

[Songstress]

Clov, if you're town man up and SHOW me why you think Cass is most likely to be the last scum. I don't wanna see self pity posts about everyone being deaf. That will prolly just make me want to lynch you so like... don't?

 

Right there with you.

[Cass]

 

Cass I want to hear your thoughts about Clov. No more being the last one to the party.

Yeah I agree.

 

 

Working on it. Part way through analysis fo full AJ ISO, want me to switch? 

Probably have an hourish left in me before I have to go to bed.

 

 

Clov, if you're town man up and SHOW me why you think Cass is most likely to be the last scum. I don't wanna see self pity posts about everyone being deaf. That will prolly just make me want to lynch you so like... don't?

 

Ditto. 

[Kaylee]

Yes please Cass, thoughts on Clov

[Cass]

*headdesks*

 

Ok, switching.

[Nynaeve]

It's pretty much between you and Clov today....

[Nynaeve]

So I wanted to see how you'd react. How he'd react. And how others would react (namely Cass, who Ive had as a reasonable candidate literally the entire game).

 

Voting you when there was still half a phase left does not mean you are the best candidate.

What did you get out of the whole thing then?

[Andrej]

Yates is a sassy mod

[Nynaeve]

No kidding....

[Songstress]

Yates is a sassy mod

 

Did you expect any different?

[Andrej]

No. We're basically twins so I know deep down he's just an sensitive as me. We just hide it under our manly exteriors

 

Okay I'll stop before he kills me.

[Andrej]

I'm waiting for my pancakes to arrive.

 

How is everyone else's morning/day/evening?

[Nynaeve]

Meh

[Kaylee]

I'm waiting for my pancakes to arrive.

 

How is everyone else's morning/day/evening?

Productive... cleaned the bathrooms, had a shower, cleaned the trash cans, put the baby down for a nap... now I don't want to finish cleaning, just want to be lazy for awhile lol

[Cass]

It's pretty much between you and Clov today....

 

I know this, but gut says if it comes down to Clov/AJ I want my thoughts on AJ to be ITT.

 

 

I'm waiting for my pancakes to arrive.

 

How is everyone else's morning/day/evening?

 

Meh

 

Agree with the Meh. I'm getting sick and have no pancakes.

[Andrej]

Sounds like you've earned it then Kaylee

[Andrej]

And your thoughts are what, Cass?

 

That I sussed and bussed 2/3 of my team?

 

Why would I ever need to drop cover on Verb if we're wolfbros together?

[Nynaeve]

I already said earlier the benefits of a seer cover on scumbros. That point is moot.

[Kaylee]

Sounds like you've earned it then Kaylee

Yea might finish everything else tomorrow.

[Nynaeve]

 

It's pretty much between you and Clov today....

 

I know this, but gut says if it comes down to Clov/AJ I want my thoughts on AJ to be ITT.

 

So you think that in the event of Clov getting lynched today, that he's going to flip town?

[Songstress]

 

 

It's pretty much between you and Clov today....

 

I know this, but gut says if it comes down to Clov/AJ I want my thoughts on AJ to be ITT.

 

So you think that in the event of Clov getting lynched today, that he's going to flip town?

 

 

That's not how I interpreted it, but I'll let her explain her meaning.

[Andrej]

I already said earlier the benefits of a seer cover on scumbros. That point is moot.

 

Actually I'm pretty sure I said it first

 

Even so - why need to reverse cover before the seer dies? There's no point to it.

[Cass]

Here's Day 1 of Clov ISO and thoughts WRT Wombat/Verb etc in bold and summarised at the bottom. Skipped some banter with Cory etc and didn't detail every post pushing Dice (there were a lot). 

 

DAY 1:

Actions:

 

• Immediate Wombat, Cass, Dice scumteam

• Town: Kaylee, Darthe and Verb as town ***Preparation for Seer Cover/Tactic to avoid interaction?***

• Ttorn between Nyn - can't place finger on what stood out, just didn't really get town vibes from her ***Weak, ?explained better later on***
  and Leelou - response to Verb shutting down communication) with not much confidence  ****fair Possible good Town reads? Possible aiming for early lynch***

• Questions Nyn for responding to Darthe's post, using the word 'basically' seeming like responding  ****? Opportunistic/Null - read same way to me****

• Trends Nyn upwards after her response to Sooh

• Asks Sooh for her n0 *********?Rolefishing???  (Clov was in previous game where Sooh was Seer and struggling earlier on) ********

• Disagrees with Darthe calling Nyn's post proddy
• Town: Kaylee, Darthe, Verbal. Null Nyn. Slight Town AJ, pending what he has on Darthe.

• Thinks AJ's post about seer cover strategy was in town's interest

• Questions Hallia over her vote on him for push on Nyyn

• Points out to Hallia that Sooh has experience/was the Seer in previous game ***?Setting her up for lynch***

• Defends early stance on Nyn because he usually reads her well

• Questions Darthe about post to Wombat 'I don't understand these posts, Darthe. The bottom one especially confuses the hell out of me. It looks like you're saying expecting Town!Wombat to defend somebody scumm. Am I interpreting that right?'
  Quote Wombat, doesn't know what Clov pile means **** Feels too direct for defence/interaction with scum butddy*

• Adds Wombat to townlist ***?? **** Still not crazy about Hallia

• Dice votes Sooh, Clov asks 'if Sooh was modspewed as town right now, who else would you be interested in lynching today?' -
• ****Knows/reading Sooh as Town***
• Votes Cass. Asks questions about reads ***?easy push/re-read sounds genuine***

• FOS of Cory ***same thing made me suspicious***, pushing back and forwards

• Likes my explanation for Darthe read, Doesn't like reasoning for Kaylee ****Slight hedging, but mostly Cass positive? Doesn't fit with theory of setting me up for lynch***
• Question's Sooh on her reads

• Cory probably town ***good reasoning, but would probably offer this wrt Cor in either alignment***

• Verb is 100% town here btw and I will seriously kick anyone who pushes him in the throat **** Seer Cover/possible ploy for early defence****
• Says AJ's post is perfect - Bump Wombat up (away from hesitant wolf), bump me down (from light green) ***Fits with defending scum mate and setting up easy lynch***
• Votes Dice ***+ later push seemed like going after an easy target***
• Won't fight lynch on Cass/Sooh/Dice/Leelou/Tress… puts Cass 'half spot' ahead of the rest because liked effort *****Pretty much all clear Town****
• Defends Sooh, instincts making him feel like she would know better than to use AtE - highlights similarity in overwhelmed behaviour from Darthe's game ***?Hedge/distancing from mislynch***
• Pushes Dice, snipes at Leelou
•  Responds to Nyn's FoS for hedging on Leelou, voting Cass then shifting to inactive Dice - explains Sooh is 'in his bottom four'. ****Nyn has a good point***
• Agrees with Wombats reads list as is ***?too obvious***

• Sooh and Dice mafia - **** Both confirmed Town***

• Push Dice again, several posts, hard push ***?going hard at an easy target***
• Votes Sooh 'just so Cory isn't last' *********Suspect******

 

 

 

 

WRT to Scum

There's a bit here to suggest links with Wombat and Verb. The Town peek and little other interaction with Verb could validly go either way.

He blatantly comes right out and defends Wombat against several different players, but it's my gut feel that he's defending him too strongly ealry on for them to be actual partners ?WIFOM though. I've never been in a game where Clov's flipped scum.

 

I do find it concerning him saying at one point that AJ's reads post is 'perfect' - with moving Wombat up and me down-  because he effectively puts 4 confirmed Town in the PoE + Tress and moves Wombat up away from 'hesitant wolf'. This fits with defending a scum mate and gives him leeway to move to easy lynch later on.  I feel like the defence of Wombat is too obvious, but the strategic moves in reads do fit with scum.

 

The only reason he actually gave for reading Wombat not scum was 'nothing seems completely off basis' - feels week.

 

Town peek on Verb, little other interaction. this could validly go either way.

 

WRT Vote on Sooh
Feels hedgy on Sooh all D1. Leaning almost towards TMI. Could either be a good read/distancing from mislynch.

Possible that question re n0 peek and mention of her being experienced as previous Seer were rolefishing/soft protect/push of lynch?

The fact that he mostly defends Sooh/hedges but does mention liking where Nyn's head is at ?possible sheeping.

Voting her 'just so Cory isn't last' feels particularly off. Clarifies earlier that she's in his bottom four, but doesn't explain reasons at any point.

 

Push on Dice seemed like going hard at an easy target, not sure I like his snipe at Leelou for her reaction to him pushing her peek.

[Cass]

 

 

 

It's pretty much between you and Clov today....

 

I know this, but gut says if it comes down to Clov/AJ I want my thoughts on AJ to be ITT.

 

So you think that in the event of Clov getting lynched today, that he's going to flip town?

 

 

That's not how I interpreted it, but I'll let her explain her meaning.

 

 

What I'm saying is that if I  get lynched today I want my thoughts on AJ to be ITT.

 

Today I'm happy for the lynch to be between Clov/AJ because they've both felt off to me but I've been focusing more on AJ and have been gut reading him more strongly scum since early on and for whatever reason those thoughts don't seem to be getting across. 

[Nynaeve]

Even so - why need to reverse cover before the seer dies? There's no point to it.

 

I misunderstood what you said. I thought drop cover meant to give seer cover on Verb. Not drop as in.... what you did later

[Cass]

4am. Time for sleep. I have some time today after physio so will sit down and finish the second half of Clov. Honestly I could probably vote either way right now. I just like to read and try and consider everything so that I'm more likely to be right