A Tale of Middle Earth: Game OVER

[Yates]

There are too many people watching and not speaking.  Too many.

YES!

[Leelou]

 

Do you think I'm scum?

Probably not. I said as much before Yates 1.0 was lynched.

 

 

Then actually vote someone you think is scum. 

[Leelou]

 

UNOfficial Vote Count Four:
 
AndreJ(1/11): Krak
Sooh (2/11): Hallia, Dice
Krak (3/11): Talya, Leelou, AndreJ
Verb (5/11): Yates, EP, Eldrick, Laine, Pizza

Leelou (1/11): Thane
 
Not Voting (11/20):
Sooh, Aiel Heart, Verb, Taborline, Seph, Tina, Batassery, Alot
 
With 20 alive it takes 11 to lynch.  

 

Deadline is noon. 

[Verbal32]

 

Do you think I'm scum?

Probably not. I said as much before Yates 1.0 was lynched.

 

 

Do you realize we're < 2 hours from the DL and I'm probably lead wagon?

[Leelou]

 

 

Do you think I'm scum?

Probably not. I said as much before Yates 1.0 was lynched.

 

 

Do you realize we're < 2 hours from the DL and I'm probably lead wagon?

 

 

You are the lead wagon, dear. 

[Cass]

@Yates-

 

Dude, Sili's case was bad.  I was pushing you because I thought your interaction with AJ was potentially w/w.  I said as much.

 

Then you made the mixup of Zander & seph.  Pay attention everyone, this is why my thought process is town:  I started out just wanting to know where your read of seph went.  It was lock wolf, and then......I don't know.  I wanted to know, so I asked.  You kept coming back about Zander and appeared to be either ignoring or distracting from my question on seph.  So I pressed more.  Then I became obvious about it and pushed hard and used all caps.  Up until this point, I was prepared to lynch you through your claim.  Completely.

 

Then you admitted the mistake and I unvoted.  To all the folks reading along - yes, that convinced me he was town.  I got the distinct impression that he hadn't realized the point I was trying to make, and then when he did....he corrected himself.  So I unvoted on the stance of me not willing to lynch an un-cc'ed PR.  The difference is that I now believed him, when I didn't prior to his last couple of posts in that interaction.

 

 

Does that help explain it?  If not, ask more questions.

 

I follow (and agree/d with) your thought process on the first part (change in Seph read, avoiding questions etc). 

 

I thought his admission of a 'mistake' looked dodgy. 

 

I still don't understand being willing to lynch Yates 1.0 or otherwise, through a claim, on D1, and then unvoting because of that.

[Sooh]

Flat tires makes for interesting days... 

 

I wanted to get something in before EOD.

 

First I wanted to know from Dice why it's such a bad thing that my town reads haven't changed a whole lot. It's like that's the scummiest thing you've ever read. 

 

I like Tina, AJ, EP and Eldrick for town still. I'm leaning town on Verb and Leelou also until I see more convincing cases being made.

 

Then there's the mid range in which I am still not sure what to believe... Krak, Taborline, Alannalynn, Batass, Pizza, Hallia, Yates 2.0, Thane, Heart, Alot. Seeing as there's a ton of interest around Krak I'll get to his ISO as soon as I'm done typing this.

 

I still feel like Dice, Seph and Talya are interesting candidates for scum. I'm aware that Seph is for meta reasons, and it's not a strong case really. I need to go back and look more at Dice, because he has been stepping up his game in my opinion, and might not be as strong a candidate for scum anyway... Talya has followed her very own path this game, and might for that reason be very scummy or very villagery. I still feel like she has been defending Seph a lot, and so pending a flip on him I would potentially look at her closer. 

 

I'm stressing out a little over EOD now, but I'm around for discussions and I'll be taking a look at Krak at least before EOD. 

 

Holding my vote pending on how that ISO comes along. 

[Leelou]

 

i find it amusing that Leelou once again reacts the same way as Tina, with nearly the exact same wording... interesting. 

 

Agreed, seems pretty clear to me Tina is protecting Leelou.  But I'm not liking Verbal's defense either.  "Inconsistencies are normal for town".  As if that is what was being said.  Inconsistencies in reads is definitely more of a scum tell than a town tell because scum have to make reads they know are false, and have to make them to fit a situation, and forget they had opposing reads earlier with no explanation for the changeover.  Saying it's normal for town, who are supposed to be able to show the process of their reads...

 

 

I actually noticed this reaction the other way around first: Leelou seeming hedgy/possibly defending Tina:

 

Wrong. I gave my read of her. 

[Niniel]

Iso´d Alot. Didn´t tell me much. He was overwealmed in the beginning and wanted to stay back until people was killed. I don´t blame him. 

 

I think he voted Leelou because of wrong reason and I found his unvote strange. Still not sure he is scummy.

 

 

 

I´m definitley protecting Leelou. I have found her townie for a long time now. 

 

 

Since dl is getting closer I will stop isoíng people and take a look at what I really think about the Verbal wagon. I haven´t liked his play much but it seems to  be for different reasons than others. 

[Leelou]

Iso´d Alot. Didn´t tell me much. He was overwealmed in the beginning and wanted to stay back until people was killed. I don´t blame him. 

 

I think he voted Leelou because of wrong reason and I found his unvote strange. Still not sure he is scummy.

 

 

 

I´m definitley protecting Leelou. I have found her townie for a long time now. 

 

 

Since dl is getting closer I will stop isoíng people and take a look at what I really think about the Verbal wagon. I haven´t liked his play much but it seems to  be for different reasons than others. 

 

I don't like the Verbal wagon. 

[Niniel]

I have seen that. But I need to make up my own mind. 

[Cass]

 

Did you answer this yet?

No. I wasn't reading. Low level villaging right now, yo.

 

I don't know. 50/50 on you. But I think even if you are a wolf you HAVE to answer correctly so it doesn't matter?

 

 

Not sure I believe it.

[Eldrick4221]

I'm glad I checked back in before I went to sleep.

 

[unvote]

 

I've said it before. I'll say it again. I'm horrible at making cases. It was more a list of thoughts than anything else. That's why there were town/null points in there too.

 

I liked the answers you guys gave. It convinced me I was wrong. That's all I got this day phase. I hope Verb doesn't get lynched because of me.

[Yates]

Do you realize we're < 2 hours from the DL and I'm probably lead wagon?

I do. So stop wasting time. Who is the most egregious offender of everything we just said TOWN should do?

 

There's going to be a CFD. And it's going to be on a slanker. And that slanker is going to flip scum.

[Sooh]

Actually I think I can see what Pizza is saying about Krak... I don't particularly like the votes on Krak either...

[Leelou]

UNOfficial Vote Count Four:

 

AndreJ(1/11): Krak

Sooh (2/11): Hallia, Dice

Krak (3/11): Talya, Leelou, AndreJ

Verb (4/11): Yates, EP, Laine, Pizza

Leelou (1/11): Thane

 

Not Voting (11/20):

Sooh, Aiel Heart, Verb, Taborline, Seph, Tina, Batassery, Alot, Eldrick

 

With 20 alive it takes 11 to lynch.  

 

 

 

Deadline is noon.

[Cass]

 

On the other hand, I'm in the same boat. Trying to gather together notes...

 

 

^ Cheap shot. 

 

Edit previous post:

 

Stop distracting me, you know it's true.

[Yates]

^ Cheap shot.

 

I *KNOW* you aren't taking notes, dear!  I'm not saying that makes you scum but I'm calling you out...  in a humorous way...

[Thane Vakarian]

so, Yates.. CFD... on who?

[Eldrick4221]

Screw it. I'm hating this "I don't want to contribute" Yates

 

[v]Yates[/v]

[Yates]

so, Yates.. CFD... on who?

I'll give you a hint...

 

There's a guilty on either you or Hally...

[Yates]

Screw it. I'm hating this "I don't want to contribute" Yates

So what you're saying is... "Screw it.  I'm not reading/understanding the thread and don't see the point Yates is making."

 

Good villaging, imo.

[Thane Vakarian]

 

so, Yates.. CFD... on who?

I'll give you a hint...

 

There's a guilty on either you or Hally...

 

you must be kidding? why wouldn't you have revealed that sooner?

 

just in case unvote

[Verbal32]

I have seen that. But I need to make up my own mind. 

Can you let me know what about me you don't like this game?  If it isn't what Sili was incorrectly saying, then I'm not sure what it could be.  I can almost forgive Pizza for having to meta and making a read that implies it.....but I also don't know how he plays so I may be misunderstanding his intent here.

 

But you....I know you.  I want to know what about my play concerns you.

[Yates]

why wouldn't you have revealed that sooner?

More to the point; why WOULD I reveal it sooner?

 

How are you feeling about your chances to survive the day right now?