A Tale of Middle Earth: Game OVER

[Verbal32]

 

So EP is probably town.

 

Yates?

 

 

Definitely a PITA.

 

 

 

 

 

So EP is probably town.

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I was asked to read up on him, so I did.

[Verbal32]

FTR, I'm making my way through the whole thread from p1 up until I really joined in yesterday.  I have a tab open for current stuff, so I'll be around-ish.

[Yates]

 

Yates?

Definitely a PITA.

 

[Yates]

im not a fan of things that seem like contradictions to me and it seems like a contradiction.  and the fact she has a problem with me voting on a gut read early on D1.

She voted for you in post 340.

 

Who else was voting for you at the time?

 

Even Sili had unvoted you about 40 minutes prior, afaict.

 

The point of this is I'm wondering what the contradiction is?

[Zander?]

 

im not a fan of things that seem like contradictions to me and it seems like a contradiction.  and the fact she has a problem with me voting on a gut read early on D1.

She voted for you in post 340.

 

Who else was voting for you at the time?

 

Even Sili had unvoted you about 40 minutes prior, afaict.

 

The point of this is I'm wondering what the contradiction is?

 

 

its her bandwagon commenting on me then she just seems to be following silli and pizza's lead. i made a gut read on Sooh which if not the 1st it was the first one that stuck.  whether they're votes were still on they had been and she seemed to see that and leaped in feet first.

[Zander?]

ebwop

 

their not they're

[Yates]

its her bandwagon commenting on me then she just seems to be following silli and pizza's lead. i made a gut read on Sooh which if not the 1st it was the first one that stuck.  whether they're votes were still on they had been and she seemed to see that and leaped in feet first.

So you are saying she is guilty of "bandwagoning" on you because other people had expressed possible interest in voting for you in the same way she had accused you of "bandwagoning" on Sooh for expressing possible interest in voting there?

 

I can buy that, from your perspective.

[Yates]

What was your second major point?

[Leelou]

Yates - so you go from "more likely than not" scum on Zander to now helping him by trying to pull info out of him? Do you still think he's scummy? 

[Zander?]

@  yates

 

I felt it was weak and a total stretch.  Having a problem wih an early gut read on D1.  And it came off to me that she was doing the same thing she was calling me out for.

[Andrej]

I'm done with class for the day and don't have work for another ~3-4 hours so I will be focused mostly on this game and responding to stuff. These long MQ posts will take me a bit of time to respond to since I'm doing this all on my phone and trying to get my cursor to move into appropriate spots to copy/paste, delete, etc can be super frustrating with my fat fingers punching away on this little screen.

 

Anyway, back to the more pertinent stuff.

[Yates]

Yates - so you go from "more likely than not" scum on Zander to now helping him by trying to pull info out of him?

Yup. That's how I roll...

 

I'm actually just trying to understand his process. Could be important later.

Do you still think he's scummy?

I don't know if he's scum. I know if he *IS* scum he's scum with EP. See what I'm saying?

[Yates]

@  yates

 

I felt it was weak and a total stretch.  Having a problem wih an early gut read on D1.  And it came off to me that she was doing the same thing she was calling me out for.

Oh I thought that was all part of your first point?

[Leelou]

 

Yates - so you go from "more likely than not" scum on Zander to now helping him by trying to pull info out of him?

Yup. That's how I roll...

 

I'm actually just trying to understand his process. Could be important later.

Do you still think he's scummy?

I don't know if he's scum. I know if he *IS* scum he's scum with EP. See what I'm saying?

 

 

Yes, but that's obvious and doesn't really answer the question if you still think he's scummy. 

[Verbal32]

Early game seph looks scummy, Sili and EP look good, and Eldrick looks "meh".

 

Also, not able to really read Sooh yet.  Same with Pizza.

 

Everybody else is in a null at the point I'm at.

[Yates]

Yes, but that's obvious and doesn't really answer the question if you still think he's scummy.

Well, Leelou, I guess that's kind of the point in trying to understand his process, isn't it? LOL

[Leelou]

Wrong answer, Yates. 

[Andrej]

I get the impression here that you're saying because Tina corrected herself that it makes her look more townie?

??No? Her CASE made her look Townie.I'm saying the fact she corrected herself didn't make her more scummy; an assertion YOU were making.

 

The fact that she corrected herself was never a part of my opinion on it. Like I said, she pretty much HAD to in that case or else face some serious wtf moments from people when they read it. Her correcting herself is entirely null imo. Everyone probably or at least should proof read their posts.

 

I never asserted anything about the correction being scummy. Above where you quoted me I've highlighted the part where I am very clearly saying the correction doesn't matter. Either alignment would do that.

 

 

LOL - That's not the impression you leave when you say this:

 

 

 

It struck me as careless and kind of sloppy. Like I said, if she was going to use someone else's words to +1 and then vote, I would think she would've chosen the right ones.

You make it sound like you would expect TOWN Tina to make sure she quoted properly and thus the fact that she didn't quote properly was informing your scum lean on her.

 

Right there I'm very clearly saying that the misquote looked negative to me for the fact she was bringing that forward as support to her vote. No mention of the correction as I didn't find that important. As I've explained before on this, the mishandling of the quotes, the essential just +1'ing of Sili without adding her own input, and the target she voted all collectively gave me a bad vibe. I feel like you are ignoring details here because you're trying to frame my knee-jerk reaction badly.

 

 

Is that you "solving" again?

Yup. Seeing how she developed that read and recognizing it as coming from a Town mindset is me "solving." Also, recognizing what some of this meant wrt Sili's alignment in context is more of me "solving."Yeah, you've said it already. I even agreed with it. I don't know why you keep coming back to this point and waving it around like I'm supposed to clear you over it or something. It's not like that conclusion is a hard one to come to regardless of what your alignment is.

[Andrej]

Meh, looks like I flubbed that one up this time. Hopefully you guys can still figure out who is saying what there. Now to the next one...

[monstrman]

I work a ton and haven't read anything since my last post.

 

I'm gonna try to catch up on lunch and post after work

[Yates]

I feel like you are ignoring details here because you're trying to frame my knee-jerk reaction badly.

I'm not "framing" anything. I'm telling you what it looked like. You came back later and said claimed that her correcting her post didn't look bad for her but that's not the impression I got from you in your initial posts. If it was completely null/irrelevant to your read, as you are trying to say you intended all along, then why would you raise the subject of her correcting her post in the first place?

 

Yeah, you've said it already. I even agreed with it. I don't know why you keep coming back to this point and waving it around like I'm supposed to clear you over it or something. It's not like that conclusion is a hard one to come to regardless of what your alignment is.

LOL - Then why add "Is that you "solving" again?" to your argument? Pure snark? Do you see how I wouldn't immediately come to that conclusion?

[Hallia]

I'm able to get on mobile today! I can't easily go back to resume my reread, anything page 20+ that I need to know? I can play in realtime

[monstrman]

I'd say aj and yates seems v/v but I said that about cory and yates last game and lolme

[Verbal32]

Early game seph looks scummy, Sili and EP look good, and Eldrick looks "meh".

 

Also, not able to really read Sooh yet.  Same with Pizza.

 

Everybody else is in a null at the point I'm at.

 

Pizza is probably town.

 

Interesting vibe from reading Yates and AJ together.

[Yates]

Wrong answer, Yates.

Then you are looking at the wrong answer sheet. It's the right answer because it happens to be the case. I could make something up for you if you would like? But I'll put it in spoilers along with a warning that the post does not reflect my actual opinions. LMK?