A Tale of Middle Earth: Game OVER

[Askthepizzaguy]

In the Champs game where I met Yates, I gently warned about three or four players that if they didn't stop calling each other stupid, idiots, amateurs, or whatever, I would vote them that round and never unvote.

 

This is a game where the outcome really mattered to me, but I still would have deliberately ended the game in a manner which harmed whichever team I was penalizing for that behavior even if it was my own team.

 

Winning is not worth certain moves. I will lose before I accept that kind of stuff from my own team.

 

If I were a wolf, and one of my fellow wolves were doing it to a villager, and they refused to stop, I would claim wolf, say they were a wolf on my team, and that we both just lost, and to never do that again.

 

That's kind of where I come from as a player. If it helps you to understand me. This is not as bad as personal insults, btw, but it is a kind of attack on the other players that exceeds the usual boundaries of the game, so it is categorized similarly and does deserve to be acknowledged as illegitimate and never to be used again from the folks who would use it.

 

That's all I really need, good sir. I have no wrath or ill feelings toward you otherwise, and my suspicion on you will remain lighthearted and in-game only.

 

I was having fun playing with you until then, and I still would, I feel. Okay?

[Gabriel Kross]

 

@Pizza I'm going to ask you to go out on a limb and trust me. Hold your moves until we find the roleblocker if you are who you say you are. There has to be a reason you didn't die last night, and I want you to consider that.

 

I am always considering. Do you know how many suspects I've reversed on so far this game?

 

But no, not after your quit mafia forever tactic.

 

It was clearly a tactic, because after I laid into you telling you how terrible it was to use such a tactic, your activity level stayed the same or increased, and you continued to play as if you hadn't just been called out for using that tactic deliberately.

 

If there was any truth in what you were saying, you'd not have cared as much to continue play.

 

But that's not the reason I suspected you, and I'm only telling you this as a "why I am not reversing" on you statement.

 

The case against you stands, and I have further reason to suspect you since. This is in-game stuff and it's rock solid.

 

 But regardless, you destroyed your own credibility in this game irreparably, because you lied to me about something that should never even be discussed during play.

 

Such tactics shouldn't ever be in play, but even if I were to ignore them, you still look guilty. And I will never allow a guilty person to threaten to quit mafia altogether as a life-preserver, it's so distasteful and anti-game and goes against the spirit of fair play.

 

oh no I'm still done with playing mafia after this game but like I said I have only ever quit a single game, I have no intention of adding to that.

[Gabriel Kross]

In the Champs game where I met Yates, I gently warned about three or four players that if they didn't stop calling each other stupid, idiots, amateurs, or whatever, I would vote them that round and never unvote.

 

This is a game where the outcome really mattered to me, but I still would have deliberately ended the game in a manner which harmed whichever team I was penalizing for that behavior even if it was my own team.

 

Winning is not worth certain moves. I will lose before I accept that kind of stuff from my own team.

 

If I were a wolf, and one of my fellow wolves were doing it to a villager, and they refused to stop, I would claim wolf, say they were a wolf on my team, and that we both just lost, and to never do that again.

 

That's kind of where I come from as a player. If it helps you to understand me. This is not as bad as personal insults, btw, but it is a kind of attack on the other players that exceeds the usual boundaries of the game, so it is categorized similarly and does deserve to be acknowledged as illegitimate and never to be used again from the folks who would use it.

 

That's all I really need, good sir. I have no wrath or ill feelings toward you otherwise, and my suspicion on you will remain lighthearted and in-game only.

 

I was having fun playing with you until then, and I still would, I feel. Okay?

it was an initially fun game, but inactivity ruined it. When I lost interest in the game I lost the motivation to play. Whether you believe me or not this is the last game I will ever play, atleast until an inactivity rule becomes standard issue. I will instead move to a mod role for the forseable future.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Welp, I tried.

 

I showed you where I was coming from and asked you not to do that anymore, and you're still punishing the other players for suspecting you, as far as I can tell.

 

If you have other reasons you've failed to make them clear to me. If you want to try again I'll listen.

 

Now your business is your own, you don't have to play anymore for whatever reason you like, but it locks my vote on you for policy reasons.

 

Sorry you feel that way, but I feel this way, and have to stand firm on that point.

 

I wish you well. I'm going to interact with the other players now and drop this subject.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Okay, you've listed another reason.

 

I don't follow, but hey, it's a better reason than the other reason.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Gonna take a walk now and clear my head. Be back later.

[Gabriel Kross]

I'd like to refer to an old game on Myndjack that was ruined due to inactivity some of the people of this game know of it. I think it was Wombat's Star Wars game. From what I remember people stopped playing so the game never finished.

[Gabriel Kross]

Okay, you've listed another reason.

 

I don't follow, but hey, it's a better reason than the other reason.

inactivity was one of my initial reasons for saying I was quitting soooo... what?

[Hallia]

How about we talk about this game?  Inactivity has not ruined it?

[Leelou]

I am not following the AH "tmi" case.

 

No less that two other people read the post in question the same way, because others in this game who claimed to have a double vote said "x2" when double voting.

 

And one of those people thinks AH is scum for the much, much, much more plausible reason that her leans list is entirely populated with villagers, and her one scum suspect is me. That's a total coincidence I'm sure.

 

That's what's bugging me. It just feels like a tinfoil hat case is being pushed for not-villagery reasons on a likely scum candidate. But you can get away with it because opposing scum.

 

I am fine watching the wolves self-destruct and eat each other, I'm just pointing out loony things as I see them from where I sit.

By "others" you mean me? Yes, I did the x2 thing, but it was separate. To read WK's post as a claim when Phoenix ends in an x and he was variation 2 is a stretch. 

 

 

I'd like to refer to an old game on Myndjack that was ruined due to inactivity some of the people of this game know of it. I think it was Wombat's Star Wars game. From what I remember people stopped playing so the game never finished.

 

Well, the mod kinda stopped modding. 

[Gabriel Kross]

 

I am not following the AH "tmi" case.

 

No less that two other people read the post in question the same way, because others in this game who claimed to have a double vote said "x2" when double voting.

 

And one of those people thinks AH is scum for the much, much, much more plausible reason that her leans list is entirely populated with villagers, and her one scum suspect is me. That's a total coincidence I'm sure.

 

That's what's bugging me. It just feels like a tinfoil hat case is being pushed for not-villagery reasons on a likely scum candidate. But you can get away with it because opposing scum.

 

I am fine watching the wolves self-destruct and eat each other, I'm just pointing out loony things as I see them from where I sit.

By "others" you mean me? Yes, I did the x2 thing, but it was separate. To read WK's post as a claim when Phoenix ends in an x and he was variation 2 is a stretch. 

 

 

I'd like to refer to an old game on Myndjack that was ruined due to inactivity some of the people of this game know of it. I think it was Wombat's Star Wars game. From what I remember people stopped playing so the game never finished.

 

Well, the mod kinda stopped modding. 

 

I think that was a 2way street. Also as far as the x2 comments. I'm the one that was being voted and I didn't even notice it. So take that how you guys will.

[Gabriel Kross]

How about we talk about this game?  Inactivity has not ruined it?

yet, but what happens when the active players die?

[Hallia]

Vote for an inactive one if you feel that way then?  Who is left that isn't very active?  Tab got replaced, AH is catching up, Sooh has been posting, so has dice...I'm not sure what you're really complaining about?

[Gabriel Kross]

Vote for an inactive one if you feel that way then?  Who is left that isn't very active?  Tab got replaced, AH is catching up, Sooh has been posting, so has dice...I'm not sure what you're really complaining about?

I dunno if you count 1-5 posts a day as active, but even though I don't want to play I am still out-posting most of the people in this game.

 

WK: Hasn't been posting much game content and sticking along the lines of Taborline, though his post volume has probably doubled hers. Admits to a very anti-town role is on my mafia list.

 

AH: Placed a vote without finishing her catch up never even got to Pizza's reveal before posting the vote iirc. I haven't liked her reads at all since replacing in. On my mafia list.

 

Sooh: I think Yates was onto something with Sooh's questioning in day 1. Sooh is the day ender and is mafia. She's not really around that much at all either.

 

Dice: has been so focused on getting rid of Sooh that he's completely disregarded the rest of the game, highly likely that he's town, but he needs to chime in on more of the game than just Sooh. 

[Clovdyx]

Official Vote Count One

 

Sooh (2/8): Dice, Hally

EP (2/8): Pizza, Talya

AH (3/8): AJ, EP, Sooh

 

Not Voting (8/15):

AH, Thane, Leelou, Krak, White Knight, Alannalynn, Seph, Cass 

 

Deadline is at 9:30 AM EST on 5/22/2015.  With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

[Gabriel Kross]

I would like to see AH lynched. Gut tells me she is the roleblocker.

[Hallia]

I'll not vote for her based on that whole thing.

[White Knight]

Goodness, EP2, what has gotten into you? 

 

FWIW, I'm used to 24/12 games. 48 hours seems like forever to me, and since not one of you has offered a game summary, I'm stuck going back and reading the entire game. Why are you so, "it's not even worth it"? This the way y'all treat all the newly registered subs? 

[White Knight]

So there's no way to get more than 20 posts a page, huh? 

[Andrej]

White Knight now would be a good time to confirm your role.

[White Knight]

Who agrees with you?

[Hallia]

I do.

[dicetosser1]

me too

 

 

as for catchups....Any catch up one of us gives u is biased. You need to make your own mind up and give your opinions without being able to go "such and such said!"

[White Knight]

me too

 

 

as for catchups....Any catch up one of us gives u is biased. You need to make your own mind up and give your opinions without being able to go "such and such said!"

Town should not have been afraid to present some. 

 

It's just like siding with Andrej on my full out. It works to Scum's advantage to know sooner than later where and how the votes will fall. I made this clear when I revealed. But even without hearing back from Aiel Heart, if enough of who I consider Townish recommend detailing the full mechanic of it, I will. 

[dicetosser1]

ok maybe I dont understand what you just said.

 

Here

 

 

White Knight now would be a good time to confirm your role.

 

AJ is asking you to confirm your role, not tell us how you are going to use it.

 

As there is opinion that you are a Role Thief but it has not been CONFIRMED   iirc you said a "vote thief of sorts" asking for you to confirm your role that YOU bought up seems pretty fair.

 

Especially as most here have only seen that particular role as Mafia.

 

 

 

Why I am having problems with you is in part your role claim but a big part of it is i dont understand your posts. The post above is confusing to me. Your posts when you entered were gibberish.

 

Tell me, CLEARLY and SUCCINTLY why you should not be lynched.