A Tale of Middle Earth: Game OVER

[Hallia]

You absolutely are. Leelou I saw where Wk claimed it, it was last day phase, I can't go back well on mobile, but I can tonight if someone doesn't find it first

[Hallia]

Well there you have it, ninjad by wk lol

[Leelou]

 

 

 

Team 1 - I would be thinking : Tina, Cass, Dice and another? AH/Sooh

 

@WK - The double voter was Leelou, on the Gladiator vote, she activated it/it was activated which meant she had two votes and put them both on Verb. I have only ever seen a double voter as Mafia, but they were always hidden, people could guess, but Leelou's was out in the open from the off. This is reason I tend to think town, rahter than wolfie.

 

Well, one thing that seems sure to me, that Pizza is acknowledging, is that the Village still hangs on a knife - today requires unity. Our only hope is for the wolves/mafia to target each other. As my ability will become apparent today, I'll go ahead and half-out. And, yes, I know half-outing is often a bad strategy. I may or may not have two particular votes today, and it will become apparent if activated in the count. I'm still debating with myself on revealing more, as my action can affect either Village or Mafia voting. Let's just say I need Village help in making sure I pick a right target. 

 

And, yes, once the vote reveal is clarified in an official vote count, Scum will be able to adjust to it according as they need. I probably have already given them too much information with which to work.

 

 

so you are a double voter...I need to go and read AH or you are both on a team.

 

No, not a double voter, a vote thief of a sort. I have already chosen a player whose vote is mine today, to place where I will. 

 

 

That is actually a scum role. 

[White Knight]

But, yes, it is very interesting Aiel Heart would have some inkling into that before I claimed it, if indeed Tabor never claimed. I'm doubting a Town Aiel Heart would know that, if it weren't a mistake, but there's a limited window where it could be interpreted a different way. 

[White Knight]

 

 

 

 

Team 1 - I would be thinking : Tina, Cass, Dice and another? AH/Sooh

 

@WK - The double voter was Leelou, on the Gladiator vote, she activated it/it was activated which meant she had two votes and put them both on Verb. I have only ever seen a double voter as Mafia, but they were always hidden, people could guess, but Leelou's was out in the open from the off. This is reason I tend to think town, rahter than wolfie.

 

Well, one thing that seems sure to me, that Pizza is acknowledging, is that the Village still hangs on a knife - today requires unity. Our only hope is for the wolves/mafia to target each other. As my ability will become apparent today, I'll go ahead and half-out. And, yes, I know half-outing is often a bad strategy. I may or may not have two particular votes today, and it will become apparent if activated in the count. I'm still debating with myself on revealing more, as my action can affect either Village or Mafia voting. Let's just say I need Village help in making sure I pick a right target. 

 

And, yes, once the vote reveal is clarified in an official vote count, Scum will be able to adjust to it according as they need. I probably have already given them too much information with which to work.

 

 

so you are a double voter...I need to go and read AH or you are both on a team.

 

No, not a double voter, a vote thief of a sort. I have already chosen a player whose vote is mine today, to place where I will. 

 

 

That is actually a scum role. 

 

Nope. I have it as a Town role.

[Hallia]

You did wk, I saw it.

[seph]

 

 

 

 

Team 1 - I would be thinking : Tina, Cass, Dice and another? AH/Sooh

 

@WK - The double voter was Leelou, on the Gladiator vote, she activated it/it was activated which meant she had two votes and put them both on Verb. I have only ever seen a double voter as Mafia, but they were always hidden, people could guess, but Leelou's was out in the open from the off. This is reason I tend to think town, rahter than wolfie.

 

Well, one thing that seems sure to me, that Pizza is acknowledging, is that the Village still hangs on a knife - today requires unity. Our only hope is for the wolves/mafia to target each other. As my ability will become apparent today, I'll go ahead and half-out. And, yes, I know half-outing is often a bad strategy. I may or may not have two particular votes today, and it will become apparent if activated in the count. I'm still debating with myself on revealing more, as my action can affect either Village or Mafia voting. Let's just say I need Village help in making sure I pick a right target. 

 

And, yes, once the vote reveal is clarified in an official vote count, Scum will be able to adjust to it according as they need. I probably have already given them too much information with which to work.

 

 

so you are a double voter...I need to go and read AH or you are both on a team.

 

No, not a double voter, a vote thief of a sort. I have already chosen a player whose vote is mine today, to place where I will. 

 

 

That is actually a scum role. 

 

it can be either leelou. his ability doesn't mean he is scum.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Vote_Thief

[Leelou]

 

 

 

 

 

Team 1 - I would be thinking : Tina, Cass, Dice and another? AH/Sooh

 

@WK - The double voter was Leelou, on the Gladiator vote, she activated it/it was activated which meant she had two votes and put them both on Verb. I have only ever seen a double voter as Mafia, but they were always hidden, people could guess, but Leelou's was out in the open from the off. This is reason I tend to think town, rahter than wolfie.

 

Well, one thing that seems sure to me, that Pizza is acknowledging, is that the Village still hangs on a knife - today requires unity. Our only hope is for the wolves/mafia to target each other. As my ability will become apparent today, I'll go ahead and half-out. And, yes, I know half-outing is often a bad strategy. I may or may not have two particular votes today, and it will become apparent if activated in the count. I'm still debating with myself on revealing more, as my action can affect either Village or Mafia voting. Let's just say I need Village help in making sure I pick a right target. 

 

And, yes, once the vote reveal is clarified in an official vote count, Scum will be able to adjust to it according as they need. I probably have already given them too much information with which to work.

 

 

so you are a double voter...I need to go and read AH or you are both on a team.

 

No, not a double voter, a vote thief of a sort. I have already chosen a player whose vote is mine today, to place where I will. 

 

 

That is actually a scum role. 

 

it can be either leelou. his ability doesn't mean he is scum.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Vote_Thief

 

 

Okay, but look at this from my perspective. I know I'm town and a double voter, why would there be a town vote thief as well? 

[White Knight]

I'd love to hear from Aiel Heart, but the most likely scenario is that my role has been investigated and found out by Scum, and mistakenly claimed on AH's list. 

 

This leads me to trust Pizza a lot more. I still don't like Andrej though. Not that he doesn't look fetchingly scruffy. 

[Askthepizzaguy]

It is risky to conclude one way or the other, but, I feel similarly about the protection roles in this game. Self protect, double protect, bodyguard, several vanilla villagers.

 

Double vote and vote thief, seem to be opposed.

 

It's not unreasonable but I will agree it's not conclusive. That being said, there's nothing clearing for Taborline/WK

 

That could be the most useful scan target of the options swirling around in my head.

 

I would agree to do so because there's very little in the thread we could go off of, and the role claim seems wolfish.

[Talya]

It does say it is mainly a town role, but I can see where Leelou is coming from.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Wolfish but, I think proper game design leads us to not be able to correctly ID alignment purely based on claim.

 

I think peeking WK would be better- we can't read it based on in-thread and it is curious enough to warrant a look.

 

That makes the most sense out of any peek candidate. If WK is a villager, I think s/he will even agree.

[Andrej]

I would probably lynch Aiel Heart for that, honestly.

 

I'll go back and pull up the quote she supplied to explain where her read came from, but nothing in it strikes as even remotely close to a hint or soft claim for being a vote thief.

 

So how does AH know this before WK claims it? Think about it...

[White Knight]

 Okay, but look at this from my perspective. I know I'm town and a double voter, why would there be a town vote thief as well? 

 

 

The better question is what to do with the votes I have? If I have your double votes, that's a very critical matter, huh? 

[Andrej]

This is the quote AH provided when I asked her where she got the WK - 2x voter read from.

 

Read it for yourself and tell me if you see anywhere in there something that looks like a hint or soft claim, because I see none.

 

 

So there's no one willing to help out with a game summary. That's interesting. I don't like Andrej's response to my arrival at all - a Villager would have been eager to help me adjust to the game, not immediately swing at low-hanging fruit who is only being voted near as I can tell for not being here. Why vote me as soon as I sub in and show up? That's a wolf greet. But yeah, I could see where a wolf might be as eager to seem helpful as a Villager. It's somewhat surprising no one offered to help.

 

Without seeing more from Aiel in the interim, and with no other votes currently on Andrej, I'll hang with Pizza on [v]Eternal Phoenix2[/v].

 

What's the case on Tina, please.

 

Did I just read too much into that? I took it as a claim considering Leelou's place in this game which I'm sure WK is aware of at this point.

 

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[Leelou]

You absolutely are. Leelou I saw where Wk claimed it, it was last day phase, I can't go back well on mobile, but I can tonight if someone doesn't find it first

 

I looked through all of their posts. I will ask that you find this for me. WK is saying they did not claim it before today. 

[Hallia]

Kk:)

[Andrej]

 

I am rooting for you, Sooh. Just know if my team loses, I want yours to win. Heart you boo.

 

Well in that case I'll go back to my default vote which I'm certain of

 

[v]Dice[/v]

 

If he's not scum, lynch me tomorrow!

 

Should I be taking this as the conceding that it sounds like?

 

[Andrej]

I'd love to hear from Aiel Heart, but the most likely scenario is that my role has been investigated and found out by Scum, and mistakenly claimed on AH's list. 

 

This leads me to trust Pizza a lot more. I still don't like Andrej though. Not that he doesn't look fetchingly scruffy. 

 

I do have a beard irl

[Andrej]

Pretty sure AH just outed you as her partner WK, but please, continue pressing me.

[White Knight]

Again, as soon as I choose where to place the extra I have, the next official count should make clear who has been burgled. Scum will then be able to adjust votes as they want, if I give them the time to so do. 

[Andrej]

When you say 'scum' I'm going to assume you mean, the other scum.

 

Sound good?

[Sooh]

 

 

I am rooting for you, Sooh. Just know if my team loses, I want yours to win. Heart you boo.

 

Well in that case I'll go back to my default vote which I'm certain of

 

[v]Dice[/v]

 

If he's not scum, lynch me tomorrow!

 

Should I be taking this as the conceding that it sounds like?

 

Take it as frustration.. It's very real right now. I have nobody who believes in my reads, so I'm just trying as hard as i can...

[Askthepizzaguy]

This is the quote AH provided when I asked her where she got the WK - 2x voter read from.

 

Read it for yourself and tell me if you see anywhere in there something that looks like a hint or soft claim, because I see none.

Checked:

 

So there's no one willing to help out with a game summary. That's interesting. I don't like Andrej's response to my arrival at all - a Villager would have been eager to help me adjust to the game, not immediately swing at low-hanging fruit who is only being voted near as I can tell for not being here. Why vote me as soon as I sub in and show up? That's a wolf greet. But yeah, I could see where a wolf might be as eager to seem helpful as a Villager. It's somewhat surprising no one offered to help.

 

Without seeing more from Aiel in the interim, and with no other votes currently on Andrej, I'll hang with Pizza on [v]Eternal Phoenix2[/v].

 

What's the case on Tina, please.

Vote Eternal Phoenix "x2"

 

Seems pretty clear, not sure what the confusion is.

[Leelou]

I took that as a Vote EP version 2.