[Advanced] Kronos and Kaylee's Firefly Mafia Won

[Nynaeve]

Okay, so I don't have to read his posts then. 

 

nope

[Yates]

If Despo's role were equivalent to a DOC, he'd have hard CC'd the living crap out of Clov. Even Day 1, but Day 2 for sure. It's worth trading a town PR for a wolf lynch 99% of the time.

You've played with Des enough. Heck, just look at how he treated AJ earlier IN THIS GAME. I think Des had Clov pegged as scum [which is why he was always scum in Des's list] but wanted to find Clov's buddies without needing to counter claim. It's a pretty nice stick to wield when you know someone is lying but nobody else knows you know. Think about that.

[Nynaeve]

 

If Despo's role were equivalent to a DOC, he'd have hard CC'd the living crap out of Clov. Even Day 1, but Day 2 for sure. It's worth trading a town PR for a wolf lynch 99% of the time.

You've played with Des enough. Heck, just look at how he treated AJ earlier IN THIS GAME. I think Des had Clov pegged as scum [which is why he was always scum in Des's list] but wanted to find Clov's buddies without needing to counter claim. It's a pretty nice stick to wield when you know someone is lying but nobody else knows you know. Think about that.

 

 

This. SO MUCH this. Des had Clov on his scum list DESPITE his claim. Why do you think that is?  

[csarmi]

 

Clov claimed a role that is like 99% likely to be in the setup based on theme. so íyes w/o a CC... no lynching there.

Let's do a thought experiment.Pretend you rolled Town Doc and were forced to claim Day 1. Would you A. keep fighting your lynch knowing you are an important role that could be the difference between Town winning and losing this game or B. just give up when people say they don't believe you because of a Guardian Angel flip?My guess is A. You know who does B? Someone caught in a lie.

Ans my guess is B. Town is more likely to just givw up in that situation. I know I would.

[Yates]

Baseless? You don't have another scumread you can vote? There should be four scum out there, I'm sure we can find one if we look hard enough. You wanna lynch the doc instead - go ahead and be my guest. But do it without me.

I would just like to point out that I think it's weird that you are doing this. If he flips scum and Hally flips scum? I'll be 100% convinced you are scum as well due to the Verb approach to mafia bro interactions mentioned above.

[csarmi]

 

If Despo's role were equivalent to a DOC, he'd have hard CC'd the living crap out of Clov. Even Day 1, but Day 2 for sure. It's worthtrading a town jPR for a wolf lynch 99% of the time.

You've played with Des enough. Heck, just look at how he treated AJ earlier IN THIS GAME. I think Des had Clov pegged as scum [which is why he was always scum in Des's list] but wanted to find Clov's buddies without needing to counter claim. It's a pretty nice stick to wield when you know someone is lying but nobody else knows you know. Think about that.

Yes Despo could be playing that stupidI know. He wanna be the hero all the time.

[Nynaeve]

 

 

Clov claimed a role that is like 99% likely to be in the setup based on theme. so íyes w/o a CC... no lynching there.

Let's do a thought experiment.Pretend you rolled Town Doc and were forced to claim Day 1. Would you A. keep fighting your lynch knowing you are an important role that could be the difference between Town winning and losing this game or B. just give up when people say they don't believe you because of a Guardian Angel flip?My guess is A. You know who does B? Someone caught in a lie.

Ans my guess is B. Town is more likely to just givw up in that situation. I know I would.

 

 

Doing B is not pro-town.

[csarmi]

 

Baseless? You don't have another scumread you can vote? There should be four scum out there, I'm sure we can find one if we look hard enough. You wanna lynch the doc instead - go ahead and0 be my guest. But do it without me.

I would just like to point out that I think it's weird that you are doing this. If he flips scum and Hally flips scum? I'll be 100% convinced you are scum as well due to the Verb approach to mafia bro interactions mentioned above.

And you'd be 100% wrong.

[Tommyrod]

 

 

 

 

Clov claimed a role that is like 99% likely to be in the setup based on theme. so íyes w/o a CC... no lynching there.

Let's do a thought experiment.Pretend you rolled Town Doc and were forced to claim Day 1. Would you A. keep fighting your lynch knowing you are an important role that could be the difference between Town winning and losing this game or B. just give up when people say they don't believe you because of a Guardian Angel flip?My guess is A. You know who does B? Someone caught in a lie.

Ans my guess is B. Town is more likely to just givw up in that situation. I know I would.

Doing B is not pro-town.

It's not even in character for Clov. If he really was doc and could parade it around and powerslam slimy soabs? He would. He loves being right and throwing his intellectual weight around.

 

Instead he went and hid.

[csarmi]

 

 

 

Clov claimed a role that is like 99% likely to be in the setup based on theme. so íyes w/o a CC... no lynching there.

 

Let's do a thought experiment.Pretend you rolled Town Doc and were forced to claim Day 1. Would you A. keep fighting your lynch knowing you are an important role that could be the difference between Town winning and losing this game or B. just give up when people say they don't believe you because of a Guardian Angel flip?My guess is A. You know who does B? Someone caught in a lie.

Ans my guess is B. Town is more likely to just givw up in that situation. I know I would.

 

Doing B is not pro-town.

It's not but townies don't always play pro town. They lose spirit more easily.

 

Well, depends on the player anyway.

 

With that I'm off.

 

Keep derping.

[csarmi]

That's a better argument Tommy.

[Yates]

Right?

By the way? Sorry about last night. I realize now that we were making some assumptions about what you were saying in that argument that - in retrospect - likely shouldn't have been made. I felt justified in my response because others were reading your posts that way, too, so I thought you were just trying to play the spin game. I was like "not on MY watch!" So I dug in my heels a bit. I guess you can consider it a back handed compliment that I had a paranoia moment with you there?

[Nynaeve]

It's not even in character for Clov. If he really was doc and could parade it around and powerslam slimy soabs? He would. He loves being right and throwing his intellectual weight around.

Instead he went and hid.

 

 

Totally. 

[Tommyrod]

 

Right?

By the way? Sorry about last night. I realize now that we were making some assumptions about what you were saying in that argument that - in retrospect - likely shouldn't have been made. I felt justified in my response because others were reading your posts that way, too, so I thought you were just trying to play the spin game. I was like "not on MY watch!" So I dug in my heels a bit. I guess you can consider it a back handed compliment that I had a paranoia moment with you there?

Haha, no problem. The more you, Des and I argued the more likely it became to me that you both were town and I wanted to close that conversation out instead of turning it into an ego fight but god damn does it rustle me when people tell me that obvious statements are wrong.

[Yates]

I'm keeping tabs on the people reluctant to lynch Clov. It's pretty gross.

[Andrej]

I love how Salami is using a role set from a different game ran by different Mods as an example to clear Clov in this instance.

 

News flash CS - Guardian Angel is a Doc variant! It's kind of like calling the Cop a Detective.

 

Instead of calling everyone an idiot and throwing a tantrum, you could do something productive like - idk maybe suggest an alternative? You've done nothing the past few phases but whine about how all the lynches were bad but I haven't seen you doing any work either. Your D1 pass is quickly getting used up.

[Leelou]

I'm keeping tabs on the people reluctant to lynch Clov. It's pretty gross.

 

I thought I voted, but I just went back and checked and I'm not. I can now, but I don't really want to get yelled at again for putting someone at L-1. 

[Leelou]

I love how Salami is using a role set from a different game ran by different Mods as an example to clear Clov in this instance.

 

News flash CS - Guardian Angel is a Doc variant! It's kind of like calling the Cop a Detective.

 

Instead of calling everyone an idiot and throwing a tantrum, you could do something productive like - idk maybe suggest an alternative? You've done nothing the past few phases but whine about how all the lynches were bad but I haven't seen you doing any work either. Your D1 pass is quickly getting used up.

 

This. Salami - you are not being helpful or constructive. And just because someone used a role one way in a game does not guarantee this game is built the same way. Des had Clov as a scum lean even after his reveal. Once seeing Des's flip, I can see why. People are not always going to jump and cc to give scum what they want. 

[Hallia]

I never said I quit. I said my WIM was damaged, but with this new info I feel better! We were celebrating my bday with family last night, so I was scarce of course

[Nynaeve]

i have to say I'm pleasantly surprised by Des. The way he handled the whole Silli business made me go a bit mmmm at the time but there you have it. I'll keep that in mind for future games.

[Nynaeve]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY HALLI

[Hallia]

<3 thanks Nyn

[Verbal32]

 

Yeah? Snipe shots?

 

Here's one point blank: I think it's incredibly disingenuous of you to try to stall Clov pressure by asking about his meta at a point in the game where that's become the least important aspect of his play.

Something worth pointing out about Verb's scum game - and something he has recently admitted to about himself but that I can't quote - is that he will typically buddy his scum bros. Keep that in mind going forward.

 

Am I lying, Verb? Or do you agree that when we were scum bros together we buddied the crap out of each other to victory?

 

 

You are telling the truth.

 

 

 

 

 

That's crap.  I'm not stalling anything - the dude immediately has 3 votes and will likely be today's lynch.  Is it that bad for me to have questions on how he normally handles these situations?  If this is his overwhelming town response, then I'm reluctant.

He's basically been caught with a fake doc claim. More likely to come from Town or Scum in your opinion?

 

 

If fake doc claim, scum.

If real doc claim based on what both Salami is saying and Alanna hinted at, then town.

 

 

 

 

I never said I quit. I said my WIM was damaged, but with this new info I feel better! We were celebrating my bday with family last night, so I was scarce of course

 

That was the point I was trying to make, btw.

[Yates]

 

I'll be 100% convinced you are scum as well due to the Verb approach to mafia bro interactions mentioned above.

And you'd be 100% wrong.

 

Well, I'm not going to argue with you about this point. You could be scum defending. Sure. But we'll nail your scum bros first. If you are Town? You pretty much set yourself up as a NK with this post:

For all we knoq this game is a rolefest. I played in a game here on the BT where town had like six pr's.

In order for you to think this is a role maddness game - given that it wasn't advertised as such AND all of Silly, SP, and Thane were VT - you would need to be hinting that you are a PR. So congrats on putting a target on your back. Now we can let night actions sort you out instead of driving ourselves crazy responding to your posts that aren't making a ton of sense.

[Tommyrod]

Bout to get #Tomcredulous up in hurr