[Advanced] Kronos and Kaylee's Firefly Mafia Won

[Hallia]

I'll carry on, trying to find scum, don't you worry.

 

I stuck to him because I thought he was scum.  I was wrong?

 

I don't get frustrated because it is a game.

 

I always make that point no matter what game I'm in.

 

Keep going down the tunnel if you like though

[Andrej]

[Hallia]

[Andrej]

I'll carry on, trying to find scum, don't you worry.

 

I stuck to him because I thought he was scum.  I was wrong?

 

[Hallia]

Gonna do something constructive like read through and wait for day.  I'm sorry you're unhappy with the game AJ.

 

Not gonna play into your snarkiness any further.

[Andrej]

Let us know what you find Hallia.

[hazelkrs1]

Yeah, you're definitely a wolf Hallia.

 

Obviously you don't share my confusion or frustration with this game because it's going quite well for you and your team and you know what is happening behind the scenes.

 

I'm not privy to that information but the way you stuck onto Sili all day and continued to dig at him with every 'questionable' post he made I think is very obvious now in hindsight.

This. Hallia is obvscum

[Alanna]

Yeah, so here's my question.

 

Some of you were actively trying to figure out what was going on with Sili, or at least pretending to. Why park your votes on him, then? When he was so close to being lynched? (I'm especially looking at Clov and AJ for this.) We had plenty of time to try and figure things out. I understand the frustration with his spammy votes, but you know, that was likely the point - to cause confusion. Do people really think he was just trolling? I don't know Sili at all, but he doesn't seem like a total douchebag, so I find that hard to believe, that he was just mucking up the game for giggles.

 

My point is, I'm still not sure how it was possible, but I do think Sili was probably being controlled somehow. And while my brain hurts too much right now to figure out the specifics of it, it was very clear to me that this Sili stuff was largely a distraction from doing some real scumhunting. And I kind of can't believe that a bunch of you went for that.

 

Leelou, I find your vote particularly scummy. It honestly was not that hard to just scroll past his spammy votes. It was actually kind of easy, since they're in bright red. I can't believe you were so frustrated with it that you just decided we should lynch him without at least trying to come to any real conclusions about it first, or without looking at other people.

 

I suggest we take some hard looks both at the people on Sili's train, and at those who might've benefitted from the distraction his controlled votes caused today (such as Hallia).

[hazelkrs1]

 

 

And good luck with that whole pistol thing. ;)

Express knowledge of RBer confirmed.

 

Thanks ;)

This however I dunno about...

 

If scum had a RBer, then why wouldn't they have blocked and killed Clov? Even if they KNEW Wombat was Cop (extremely unlikely) it still would have made more sense to block and kill Clov

 

So either Clov would be scum after all... Or Hallia has other shenanigans up her sleeve

[Andrej]

Basically.

[hazelkrs1]

And yes, I agree that Sili was likely being Mani Mani'd (shout out to BG's Earthbound game! )

 

And I also agree that roles that allow that kind of thing shouldn't really be allowed in forum mafia, or at the very least are bastard roles

 

This does however LOCK CLEAR Salami even more however. Don't think he'd be so obvious as scum as to announce exactly what's going on.

[hazelkrs1]

Basically.

What I mean is that and well actually just realized I don't even have to tell you. You know what's up.

 

[hazelkrs1]

I'll get out a POE tonight but yeah, this game isn't quite as hopeless as it might seem, despite all this crap going on

[Nynaeve]

Here's the list of players

 

1. Hally

2. AJ

5. Pral

6. Clov

7. Leelou

8. Verbal

9. Des

10. Alanna

11. Yates

12. Csarmi

15. Tommy

16. Nyn

 

 

 

Clov - un-CCed doc

AJ - May or may not have claimed Vig lol Either way, not CCed.

Des - Still looking okay, but still find him annoying xD

Yates - I think looked good until I tinfoiled about him... but after Thane's flip went back to looking decent again.

 

I think at this point, these are  are the ones I wouldn't even consider touching. Well, I wouldn't touch Des ever anyhow, but you know what I mean. 

 

Alanna still seams townie to me.

 

Casarmi does too but I won't lie, I am tinfoiling a bit about his certainty of Sil being town. Still.... I think the sheer stubbornness and inability to shut up is still a town tell so I'll stop with the conspiracy theories.

 

I still think Lee is more likely to be town, but if someone manages to provide compelling evidence that say otherwise, I'll be more than happy to look it over.

 

 

That leaves Pral, Tommy, Hallia and Verbal from a POE POV. Which is bothersome considering I have one townie read in there (Tommy) and a maybe/possibly/could be/I have no idea on Halli

[Andrej]

I don't think tinfoiling on Clov is necessary yet fwiw.

 

Him claiming a PR in that situation does have wolf equity, as does him not getting NK'd, but there's always wifom involved with that because I can think of several reasons as a wolf I wouldn't shoot at a claimed Doc N1 if he wasn't on my team (obviously).

 

I'm hoping whatever this vote/post control shenanigans was, was a 1x type thing but beware the fancy play where scum will try to 'fake' it to scare people away from them after seeing Sili flip town.

 

Leelou/Hallia are pretty much outed wolves imo. Those two need to get lynched over the next two Days and then we can hunt for the other two.

 

Yates/Tom probably has one imo. Tom trying to link Yates to Hallia will be pretty telling once she is confirmed.

[Nynaeve]

One thing I will say though. Leelou reads Verbal EXTREMELY well. She's given him a town read this game. If at some point we lynch Verbal and he flips scum... then I will be tinfoiling HARDCORE on Leelou.

[Andrej]

That's fair.

 

Could also just be Leelou trying to buddy/be on Verb's good side

[Andrej]

I'm lynching her over Verb regardless.

[Nynaeve]

That's fair.

 

Could also just be Leelou trying to buddy/be on Verb's good side

 

Yeah, it only makes sense in the order I said. Leelou flipping scum won't really say much about Verbal considering he hasn't really given her a read yet. Usually takes him longer to read her. Or so he claims.

[Tommyrod]

Is there really a precedent on DM for post-controlling powers? That's not okay. Like actually not okay.

 

A post control would explain why Sili went full darthe today but what's the point of playing this game if such a thing exists?

[Alanna]

At this point, I am kind of hoping Leelou is scum, because whichever way I look at it, her vote on Sili was just bad.

[Andrej]

Despot

Nyn

Alanna

Csarmi

Yates

 

Clov

Verb

Tommy

 

Hallia

Leelou

[Tommyrod]

What did Clov talk about today?

[Andrej]

He voted Sili out the gates and then speculated with me/Despot some on wtf was going on about that.

 

He also talked about Pral a bit.

[Andrej]

I keep thinking this started as a 15p game, no idea why.

 

16 gives us a little more leeway going into D3 so we won't be at a ML situation quite yet.