Freemasons vs. Illuminati - Day One

[Yates]

Also, everyone claiming not mason needs to recognize that the "not mason" list is also our lynch pool. That's just how it is.

[Yates]

Yeah. What AJ said as well.

[Andrej]

Fwiw I doubt scum claim Mason for that very reason though.

 

Also I have no idea how that was supposed to clear Dice by any means

[Andrej]

What does Masonic comrade of Russia mean anyway?

 

U Commie bro??

[Clovdyx]

I think I know who Despot's mason partner was. I'm not going to say who, for obvious reasons. Right now, this is our list of claimed nonmasons:

 

-Andrej

-Yates

-Dice

-Key

-Hallia

 

I'm not a mason, which fills up the vanilla, seer, and mafia goon list.

 

[v]Addi[/v]. I guess my initial read on her was wrong.

[Clovdyx]

I think I know who Despot's mason partner was. I'm not going to say who, for obvious reasons. Right now, this is our list of claimed nonmasons:-Andrej-Yates-Dice-Key-HalliaI'm not a mason, which fills up the vanilla, seer, and mafia goon list. [v]Addi[/v]. I guess my initial read on her was wrong.

This computer just butchered that formatting.

[Clovdyx]

AJ - Post 384, you said that if Dice is scum Addi is pretty much clear. I don't have my notes readily available. Are you just going on the fact that he voted for her fairly early on, or do you have something stronger that makes linking them improbable?

[Andrej]

Clov what was Addi posted to change your read on her?

 

And yes, I'm basing that connection on Dice voting her early for dubious reasons.

[Andrej]

What has**

 

Mobile

[Clovdyx]

Clov what was Addi posted to change your read on her?

 

And yes, I'm basing that connection on Dice voting her early for dubious reasons.

 

Nothing - she hasn't posted.  It's a PoE lynch.  Right now, we have the six non-mason claims, meaning the remaining four are to be assumed mason.  Three of the four were my lockclears from the Lenlo lynch wagon analysis, so she makes the most sense as the other Illuminati.

[Clovdyx]

 

These were the only two posts Lenlo made of substance (if you can call a kickstarter substance?).

 

Hey can I [v]TG[/v] for the lulz yet?

 

God dangit DM you DID IT AGAIN IM DONE WITH YOU. Also almost posted my essay on the Odyssey. That woulda been a read.

 

1 Dice - Scum lean. Hes been fake scumhunting imo. It doesnt remind me of how he was last game and is leaving me with a bad feeling.

 

3 AJ - Town Lean? Ive liked more of your posts than ive disliked but some of them leave me scratching my head. For instance your whole thing about not wanting to disrupt Clovs thing because he might be trying for a gambit or something rubbed me the wrong way. Seeing as how ive already got 3 scum leans im willing to put you in the town pile for now and revise this later if need be.

 

4 Key - Scum Lean. Her "sense" on me at the beginning feels weird. As you pointed out last game she was bussing me pretty hard and distancing so her sense that I was scum last game was infact a lie. We were on the same team. Yet this game she doesnt "sense" im scum? I dont like how this was worded/phrased. I also dont really understand her Despo vote.

 

5 Clov - Town. Ive liked all that hes posted, his reasoning for afew people agrees with mine.

 

6 Des - Null. Whatever I do right now my read on him is gonna be colored because im peeved at him. Hes been abit of donkey to me lately and its hard to let that go, so I wanna come back to him when im not pissed at him.

 

7 TG - Scum lean. I feel that he started off this game going for me with similarly stupid posts as what he had before in the last game so he could say "Hey look, im doing the same thing I was doing before, I havnt changed!" while simultaneously going after a really easy lynch, me.

 

8 Hally - Town lean. She seems to be actually playing this game, instead of trying to slide under the radar with jokey cutesy crap and coasting on baseless LOCK CLEAR town reads some people give her for who knows what reasons. Which is good.

 

9 GF - Scum lean. I hate her playstyle. Sitback and observe? When are we gonna get these thoughts and read? When its endgame and we only need one mislynch to lose? Yeah no im sure that would be perfect for you.

 

10 Addi - Town lean. People brought up the coaching angle earlier, but theres 2 mason teams out there so thats null. Also did some actions that I dont think the scum team would suggest/let them do, such as going after Clov right out of the gate.

 

11 Yates - Null.

 

12 BFG - Post more.

 

Might have missed something since this is the third one. Dont care. Sleeping.

[v]GF[/v]

WTL GF, TG, Dice

 

Town - me

Town lean - Hallia, Addi, AJ*

Null - Yates, Des, presumably BFG?

Scum lean- Dice, Key, TG, GF

 

* AJ was a town lean mainly because Lenlo already had three scum leans.  Even though there were four.  With my four clears in, he's reads look something like this:

 

Town - me

Town lean - Hallia, Addi

Null - Yates, Des, 

Scum lean- Dice, Key

 

 

Also, she would fit the theory that he puts one teammate in town and buses one.  I know I'm town, and I like Hallia to be town based on how EoD unfolded.  It's not a rock solid case, but I think it's a decent starting point.

[Hallia]

Hmm. That makes sense to me.

 

[unvote]

[v] Addi [/v]

[Andrej]

Hmm I wanna chew on that a bit although I'm not at all against pressuring/lynching her. She had her D1 pass and now it's time to get involved cause I feel this Town is out for blood

 

I get your theory but that also assumes that everyone who has claimed before is at least telling the truth about not being a Mason.

[Andrej]

In other words, both scum could've already claimed VT and she is left as an outlier simply because she hasn't been around to post.

[Yates]

Claims so far...

 

1 Dice - VT

3 AJ - VT

4 Key - VT

5 Clov - VT

8 Hally - VT

11 Yates - VT

 

7 TG

9 GF

10 Addi

12 BFG

 

TG? GF? BFG? Addi? Mason or no? Also, which of you is Des's mason? Consider it an Innocent Child claim.

[Yates]

Obviously, "VT" simply means "not mason" for the purposes of this exercise.

[Andrej]

I would bet on Despot's partner.

 

Clov u scum brah?

[Yates]

I would bet on Despot's partner.

Yeah. Me too. But they still need to claim.

[Andrej]

I think I know who Despot's mason partner was. I'm not going to say who, for obvious reasons. Right now, this is our list of claimed nonmasons: -Andrej -Yates -Dice -Key -Hallia I'm not a mason, which fills up the vanilla, seer, and mafia goon list. [v]Addi[/v]. I guess my initial read on her was wrong.

 

This is just way too mechanical and I really don't like it Clov. I think you're smarter than this.

[Andrej]

Hmm. That makes sense to me.

 

[unvote]

[v] Addi [/v]

 

For shame.

 

Not sure if this is just you being sheepy town or sheepy scum. I doubt there's much difference.

[Tyler Glembo]

Slammed at work today with back to back to back meetings and don't have a chance to participate.  A quick read of the last page, I'm VT.   Be back tomorrow or tonight after the game if I get a chance.

[Andrej]

Claims so far...

 

1 Dice - VT

3 AJ - VT

4 Key - VT

5 Clov - VT

8 Hally - VT

11 Yates - VT

7 TG - VT

 

9 GF

10 Addi

12 BFG

 

Updated. Looks like we've got our groups sorted now.

 

Dice/Clov atm for me

[Yates]

I would certainly vote Dice before Clove.

 

Just need to know which two of the remaining three are linked and which was tied to Des. This also means that scum miscalculated. Our seer will at least be able to find the scum that is Illuminati and catch them in a lie.

[Andrej]

I could speculate but I prefer to let them reveal on their own - although I feel it's pretty obvious.

 

That was sort of the point of the claims, to empower the Seer who is more or less useless except for this very situation.

 

Lynching Illuminati on D1 was huge for Town

[dicetosser1]

oohhh im sorry i got the game wrong. Doesnt mean that you still shouldnt have known what i was talking about considering you called me out for it later in another game.

 

and it wasnt meant to clear me AJ   i gotta play to be cleared. it was meant to put my claim out there, thus showing consistency and me keeping my word.

 

 

i didnt mind yates reply but i DID NOT like Hallys moves.

 

vote me with no reason, then jump on addict with no reason too as soon as clov points it out? i dont think so.  Scum team is Hally and clov i think

 

yates you might wanna consider that last time i did the early claim i didnt steer you wrong. that might be worth some good will despite ure nerves about me doing it in the future that you expressed at the time.

 

 

:vote hally