[Standard] Cory vs. Bad Dietary Habits & Laziness Mafia, Mafia Sweep

[Tommyrod]

I would lynch him if he reads as scummy to me. I would not specify a time. There is no time limit to my mind. I'm considering him as if he never claimed anything.

[Yates]

Ping on Yates for the bad reach.

You don't have to like it. I just want to see responses to it.

[Turin Turambar]

Tommy, the problem is that making the miller claim commits TG to being deep wolf. Therefore he will look as town as can be. Bussing as required and calling out teammates exactly as a townie would. If it gets down to lylo with TG still there, you (provided you are town) and the last person not confirmed. You gonna vote TG or the other person, say a VT claim if they look about the same game wise?

 

Personally it is a chance I would rather not take.  

[Ithillian Turambar]

Also bedtimes and stuff. I may be some time.

[Tyler Glembo]

At what point do you think we should Lynch you?

 

Never.  It'd be a mislynch.

 

 

The problem with millers is that there is no way to actually vet them in a more basic game because the roles that could clear them are not going to be there. Claiming Miller and then playing uber town is a recipe to a town loss. 

 

Part of claiming Miller early is knowing that you may have to be lynched for the long term good of the town.

 

You could be telling the truth but without being able to confirm it then all it does is set up a bad situation later in the game. 

 

True, if it comes down to a couple cop guilty's and we can afford a mislynch, fine, lynch away to win the game.  But what you're saying about a bad situation end game doesn't make sense, because if you lynch us now then you never get to that bad situation in the first place since you hit LyLo that much sooner.

[csarmi]

The problem with millers is that there is no way to actually vet them in a more basic game because the roles that could clear them are not going to be there. Claiming Miller and then playing uber town is a recipe to a town loss.

 

Part of claiming Miller early is knowing that you may have to be lynched for the long term good of the town.

 

You could be telling the truth but without being able to confirm it then all it does is set up a bad situation later in the game.

Considering a single investigative role, you get two vet around 2-3 players per 17p game on mechanics. Fourteen of them will never be cleared that way.

 

Should we lynch anyone who can't be copped?

[Tommyrod]

Tommy, the problem is that making the miller claim commits TG to being deep wolf. Therefore he will look as town as can be. Bussing as required and calling out teammates exactly as a townie would. If it gets down to lylo with TG still there, you (provided you are town) and the last person not confirmed. You gonna vote TG or the other person, say a VT claim if they look about the same game wise?

 

Personally it is a chance I would rather not take.

So? Scum always look as town as they can. He gave me bad vibes last game when he was scum. I think I can read him.

[Tyler Glembo]

Tommy, the problem is that making the miller claim commits TG to being deep wolf. Therefore he will look as town as can be. Bussing as required and calling out teammates exactly as a townie would. If it gets down to lylo with TG still there, you (provided you are town) and the last person not confirmed. You gonna vote TG or the other person, say a VT claim if they look about the same game wise?

 

Personally it is a chance I would rather not take.  

 

Arguing on mechanics over reads is a bad look.

[Yates]

If it gets down to lylo with TG still there, you (provided you are town) and the last person not confirmed. You gonna vote TG or the other person, say a VT claim if they look about the same game wise?

What makes you think it'll ever get to king maker? Why can't we be in a position at the end of the game to be wrong once and vig the other or lynch the next day?

 

Playing Day for end day is what scum needs to be doing. We just need to worry about finding them.

[csarmi]

Tommy, the problem is that making the miller claim commits TG to being deep wolf. Therefore he will look as town as can be. Budding as required and calling out teammates exactly as a townie would. If it gets down to lylo with TG still there, you (provided you are town) and the last person not confirmed. You gonna vote TG or the other person, say a VT claim if they look about the same game wise?

 

Personally it is a chance I would rather not take.

Personally I don't mind him bussing all his team if Mafia.

[Yates]

^^Day 1.

[Tyler Glembo]

So? Scum always look as town as they can. He gave me bad vibes last game when he was scum. I think I can read him.

 

Tommy"SingleDataPointAnalysis"Rod

[dicetosser1]

reporting for exercise!!!

[csarmi]

Dice has frozen the thread!

[Yates]

Dice has frozen the thread!

Dice confirmed Disney Princess. Princesses don't even lift.

[Tyler Glembo]

Soulreads so far, Dice town, Csarmi town, AJ town, Arsis town, Yates/Ithi/Turin/TSB > rand scum.

[Turin Turambar]

@Csarmi, in the case of a miller that KNOWS his view is meaningless, it gives freedom to bus easier. And hide convincingly among the town votes on mafia.  Let me ask you this, will you find him more or less suspicious if he is on mafia lynches?

 

@ Tommy, of course they all try to look town. but certain circumstances make it more advantageous to go the extra mile into deep cover. I don't like anyone getting cleared even temporarily for a unverifiable claim. Call it tinfoil if you want but I am not one to let such things go. 

 

@Yates. My point exactly. it is a license to bus. Again. It is the kind of claim that can be used to coast with. 

 

@TG. I don't care how I look. I not gonna let this just slide and then bite town later. 

[Turin Turambar]

Soulreads so far, Dice town, Csarmi town, AJ town, Arsis town, Yates/Ithi/Turin/TSB > rand scum.

No Tommy?

[Tyler Glembo]

Princesses lift.   (slightly NSFW?) 

 

 

 

[Tyler Glembo]

 

Soulreads so far, Dice town, Csarmi town, AJ town, Arsis town, Yates/Ithi/Turin/TSB > rand scum.

No Tommy?

 

 

Not yet.  He'll be obv town within D1 or we lynch him.

[Turin Turambar]

 

Andrej pre-randed Villa Captain

/confirmed

 

Come get me wolves.

 

 

 

[v]Ithi[/v]

TG, these are AJ's only posts. You seriously have a town read on him for this?

[Ithillian Turambar]

I don't think Tommy is Mafia. He wouldn't slide a vote onto us this early, that would backfire on him when our flip came out.

 

He'd let Town do the voting and keep his hands clean.

[Tyler Glembo]

@TG. I don't care how I look. I not gonna let this just slide and then bite town later. 

 

So, to be clear, you want it to bite town now? 

 

Also, Turin, how would you play getting rolled Miller?  Claim early or be reactive and be a guaranteed mislynch later in the game if viewed?

[Ithillian Turambar]

Also 'Soul Read' = 'Making it up'

 

Who voted me first?

 

I think TG just followed on. Plus I was voting him and he has to make the miller claim seem genuine. Hence I must be a bad guy just wanting him dead.

[Tyler Glembo]

 

 

Andrej pre-randed Villa Captain

/confirmed

 

Come get me wolves.

 

 

 

[v]Ithi[/v]

TG, these are AJ's only posts. You seriously have a town read on him for this?

 

 

Yes.  Jumping into the thread with swagger, quick vote where he sees the need, >rand to be town.