[Advanced] Avengers - Age of Ultron (GAME OVER!)

[Drunk Tank]

Usually I do.  Honestly I got sorta bummed by the last 3-4 dead threads of Cory trashing me.  Not a big deal or relevant but here I am taking things more cautiously cause I feel a bit uncomfortable around DM atm.

 

I got a laugh at how outraged people were over some silly gif I posted last game.

 

Seriously??? You'd think I had shown Hitler playing badminton using babies as shuttlecocks... 

[Andrej]

Okay - just finished reading through a crap ton of stuff in another game so now I'll focus on this one for a bit. I'm somewhat current because I was reading while on lunch break, but as usual, every time I check in there's another 5-10 pages and stuff to read.

 

Anyway, enough pissing and moaning. Gonna read up again.

[Nolder]

 

 

 

I'm annoyed

Why?

 

Because someone seems intend on claiming every role in Marvel. Guess who?

 

Do you not understand having fun or goofing around?

[Nolder]

It's why I didn't understand Nolder's "town is gonna be crushed!" comment. Unless he has some kind of mechanical knowledge of the setup like an oracle

I have past experience re: Mynd's first Avengers game.

[Nolder]

 

[v]Tsuki[/v]

 

My feelings haven't changed.

 

I have no idea what to think of Tom's antics lately. Not sure if too wolfy can be applied in this situation, but it's all very bizarre.

 

After reading over Nolder's arguments from today, I'm beginning to read him more as stubborn town than scummy. I disagree that info can't be gleaned through discussion since people have their role PMs already and will act according to those, consciously or not, but his argument reads more like him complaining about DM climate in general than anything else.

 

How is Nolder complaining about DM climate a towntell?  That's par for the course for him imo.

 

I'm an asshole, I'm sorry everyone. 

[Nolder]

 

 

 

Hoof were you in the last Avenger game? I don't recall.

i was.

I was.... Coulson, i think? I lost, but i was one of the survivors.

 

Recall that I fake claimed when Wombat pushed on me and Mynd wrote my claim into one of his scenes before confirming I was Loki.

Mynd tries to follow the narrative in the thread and you shouldn't necessarily trust that he'd confirm someone in a scene like that.

 

 

Yeah, but that was your death scene, so it was more of an in-the-moment pumpfake.  Almost made me defecate ceramic parallelepipeds.  Good times.

 

ACTUALLY

 

He wrote my fakeclaim into a cliffhanger and then wrote my real death scene several hours later.

Regardless though I don't see Mynd reacting to claims (or fake claims) in thread an indication of anyone's alignment that's all I'm saying.

It's not confirmed until it's confirmed ya know?

[Drunk Tank]

 

 

Abit annoyed this has taken so much attention now.

I don't find it annoying as much as it establishes a player as an opinion leader or at the least prominent distraction. He can then drop back in a game this large and someone else can take over.

 

Scumhunting??

 

 

says the player that has, like, two posts.

 

 

 

 

Sorry I couldn't edit anything out. On my phone.

 

@Red What about question of TG reek for you?

 

And if you quote parts of my post one by one, you can definitely misconstrue that you eere doing everything good. The fact remains that you weren't so you seem scummy

re-TG: like i said on my list, its more of a gut feeling rather then something to put my finger directly on. it might be partly because he's coming off as casting a really big net

 

as to the italics. can you rephrase those sentences?

 

Be nice or else I'll hide all of your right shoes.........and I'm not even kidding!!

[Nolder]

 

 

Really?

 

that would change things. The entire galactus thing might be a false alarm in that case.

 

for now, i will [unvote]Tommy[/unvote]

IIRC I claimed to be either Black Widow or Maria Hill due to their connection with SHIELD.

I might be wrong though. All I remember for sure is I picked a chick who was a member of SHIELD.

 

 

I think it was Bobbi Morse.  Not sure though.

 

Reading the profile...that sounds correct. I was looking at the list of SHIELD members on wikipedia and didn't see any names that sounded familiar besides Natasha Romynev and Maria Hill but that's probably due to them being in the movies. Looking at Morse's hero name that makes way more sense since I probably thought I was being clever. Mockingbird indeed.

[Arsis]

Noldor with the classic I'm going to have 15 posts and say nothing strategy. I wonder where he's going with this.

[Nolder]

Noldor with the classic I'm going to have 15 posts and say nothing strategy. I wonder where he's going with this.

No where? I'm just catching up and commenting as I go.

 

Arsis with the classic nonsense filler post.

[Nolder]

 

Yeah meta is part of of it but Darthe also apparently ignored a strong scum tell from Arsis to policy vote me instead.

Scum tell? Not voting nol? I'm waiting to hammer. ;)

 

Do you have a power that works when you hammer someone too?

[Drunk Tank]

Why is it nonsense?  Not saying  I disagree, but I'm curious.

I'm gonna guess you're asking me. Darthe postulates Tommyrod is a clean Day One lynch. That is nonsense.

 

Others have stated many reasons why it is nonsense as well as the odd behavior of Tommy showing it to be less than "clean."

 

I'm not sticking up for Tommy in any way, just pointing out illogical statements.

[Nolder]

 

Red do you have any objection to me sharing the reads list you PMed me during N0?

 

She called me her top townie. Awwww.

Oh really? Because I just so happened to get a similar PM from her, telling me I was her top town read as well? This should be good. I was tempted to reveal it because it felt like she overplayed her towniness in it to me,

 

I only talked to Wombat pre D1 

[dawnflower8]

Dawn do you have anything to add that doesn't revolve around me?

I've mainly been focusing on you this game, I'll admit. But here are some things I've noticed from a few other players:

 

Darthe has been playing differently, and is strangely quiet. I am not sure how he plays as scum, but this is very different from how I've seen him play town.

 

I am pretty confident Red is town. Her play seems different from when I've played with her as scum. None of her reads have seemed to have scummy reasoning, at least from what I've looked at (although some posts I have skimmed over a bit)

 

This one I don't really have any reasoning for, but gut feeling says Tsuki is town. His gameplay is exactly the same as every game I've been in with him as town. I don't have a clue on how he plays as scum though.

[Nolder]

Nolder - null. i dislike his attitude, but he had the same type of antagonistic attitude in the last game i played with him and flipped town, so null read on him for it. tbh the convo about "how to play" is more of a distraction than the fluff he was griping about.

 

what sticks out most is his vote, or rather lack of an unvote before using the code to re-vote Arsis. (if you go back and look, he voted Verb first using the code, after quoting the voting rule and then he didn't unvote) could be an intentional mis-vote tactic

Wut?

 

I didn't realize I was expected to unvote for test voting someone who isn't even in the game?

Mynd counted it when I voted Arsis so he obviously knew I didn't actually vote Verbal.

This is a pretty lame assessment Red even for you. Talk about misreps.

[Nolder]

Ok I'm all caught up and not liking Darthe's attitude.

Seems like his tactic is just hit and runs right now and that strikes me as scummy.

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Darthe[/v]

[Nolder]

 

Noldor with the classic I'm going to have 15 posts and say nothing strategy. I wonder where he's going with this.

No where? I'm just catching up and commenting as I go.

 

Arsis with the classic nonsense filler post.

 

Speaking of hit and runs...

 

Guess I'll take care of you later.

[Arsis]

 

 

 

 

Noldor with the classic I'm going to have 15 posts and say nothing strategy. I wonder where he's going with this.

No where? I'm just catching up and commenting as I go.

 

Arsis with the classic nonsense filler post.

Speaking of hit and runs...

 

Guess I'll take care of you later.

What's up? I participated all day. I think that entitles me to one joke.

 

 

I like how you said too. I bet mine is better.

[Andrej]

AJ, what do you think about Tina?

 

She's still null to me. I agree with the commentary from others that her vote on Tommy at the time was an easy one, but I did like how she added some content on others as well.

 

Key commented on this later about how the other 3 were all players already heavily talked about, which doesn't exactly equate to doing work, which I can agree with in a general sense but I think it's too early to use that to color my read on her. It's natural to state her opinion on the larger topics ITT.

 

That said - if it becomes apparent in the future that she's only casing/voting those already in the spotlight (AKA going with the flow) I would attest that more closely with scum behavior.

 

 

NotBob, what useful comment did Tina ?make on Tommy

 

meh...same crap as the others as far as Tommy...easy vote for her to make there...but she does offer some commentary on others...which I read as a hunt...or at least an attempt to keep the commentary up to date on some of the other story lines...so she's in my town pile at the moment.

 

I'm continuing to feel good about NB this game.

 

"I don't see too much value in analyzing the Tommy-train though. Sure, scum might have seen some opportunistic possibility for a cheap mislynch there - but with the amount of troll Tommy laid out as groundwork, they might have spotted the trap and kept away while confused townies piled on."

 

Was waiting for this sort of comment as well. Several of you saw last game how Darthe fake claimed a cop guilty and I went along with it as if I believed it completely. But I don't think MOST scum go that route.

 

So would scum be more likely to join in or just ignore my Galactus claim because they likely know it isn't true?

 

Not sure. I bet both happened.

 

I think it's more common for scum to spread their votes around regardless of the situation in this instance, so yeah, probably both.

 

 

Still not liking Tsuki so far.

 

He went pretty in depth with his probing for Tom's character info with the end assessment that they couldn't be town this game based off lore, and then quickly backs off saying that so long Tom isn't anti-town he doesn't care?? I don't see how those add up.

 

Because in the Marvel Universe (which is Avengers) what HASN'T been able to be classified as third-party, or even villain, at one time or another?

 

I think you'd be better served not relying so heavily on lore to affect your reads on players this game, on a general note.

 

My issue is that using this evidence (which I don't find solid) you came to the conclusion that Tommy shouldn't be town. Why wouldn't you want to eliminate that?

 

 

Mynd is allowing outside communications and while i get that you may not trust me, i'm getting a major town vibe from you.

 

between your lolchatting, how you handled the PR we both got, and your post to X on thread.  i've got good vibrations from you.

 

so i'm jumping with my gut and extending a line of communication to you as your top of my town reads right now.  

 

as avengers, open communications is our best tool to doing away with that horrible creation of Starks.

 

This was Reds PM to me. Mostly just an olive branch that I would have pressed for more from if Mynd hadnt closed off PMs. I was spending time mulling over how I wanted to go about this though cause I wasnt 100% on her at the time.

 

I feel that Len's explanation here comes from a townie place. I likely would've handled the situation the same way.

 

 

There are two people that know my real character. One I told in PMs and one I have extra special secret communication with. Dun dun dunnnnnn!

 

So you either have a QT, or you're cheating?

 

And one thing which I forgot, 

 

Dawn, you seemed to be doing a lot of wondering in your post. But you end with I'm pretty certain he's scum. How are you pretty certain of that?

 

What I'm wondering about are his motives and whether or not he is Galactus. It was not wondering about whether or not he's scum. I'm pretty confident he's scum. If he's a townie and claims a powerful scum character, that's just asking to be lynched - which would cause a town loss. If he's town, he's a very anti-town townie.

 

Dawn not reading thread /confirmed.

 

Second bold - This actually kind of... makes sense? I think it's rather basic logic, but it's something I can see Dawn thinking making sense to herself?

 

#FullDawn

 

I had a PM convo with Krak that made me feel good about him.

 

I'm liking Krak this game too.

 

That's odd.  You seem well versed in the thread and perhaps even a bit overly aggressive to me.  I would expect someone barely keeping up to be a bit more strained.

 

I started getting this vibe while I was reading through as well.

 

Galactus was, apparently, a red herring.

 

lol

[hazelkrs1]

Gonna spoiler this wot and do lightning fast commentary, time is of the essence! (bout to start audit)
 

 

I like Mynd´s scenes but since I don´t know most characters names they doesn´t give me any clues. Not sure if they are meant to or not. 
 
I´m most interested in  Red, Nolder, Tommy or Arsis.
 
Red - the way she went after X for lying about the pr and then continue to go after him even when that didn´t turn out to be true. 
 
Nolder - I don´t know why he is having this attitude that everyone here sucks so it´s no idea to play until we have some deaths. Makes no sense as game play as either town or mafia, unless he is mafia and try to cover for someone that has been suspected. Eh, I don´t know about him but I´m keeping my eyes on him. 
 
Tommy - well, as you have said, he has claimed a character that should be considered evil. 
 
Arsis - he jumped on Nolder when he was in the center of everyones attention, accused him for lying (I´m not sure what lie he is talking about) but didn´t vote him. 
 
 
[v] Tommy [/v]

 
Didn't like this post as it was mainly parroting things others were saying about her main suspects. The only one she gave semi-original thoughts on was Arsis, and that was a somewhat conflicted read anyways (and could be distancing on her part). Also looks like simplistic reasoning on Tina's part, like she's just going through the motions
 

And back to my old avi - puh!

 
So can you confirm that your avi was because of a mod-given PR please? For longevity's sake
 

 

Key, there's no reason to like Vos's point. Lynchproof is not a scum role. That's a game breaker.

 
I liked Vos's point as well, actually, and lynchproof scum has made an appearance on at least 3 games I can recall in the past year or so. Not ridiculously rare, or even impossible like you imply.
 

Second of all if I'm scum I don't "deflect attention from teammates" on day friggin ONE. I push townies. BS reasoning is BS.

[v]Vos[/v]

 
Weak post is weak. "I don't do ______ as scum" from Tommy, bleurgh.
 

 

Tommy, the reason you're voting Vos is because??

Because he's full of crap and appears afraid to take a hard stance on it with his popcorn end statement. It's the classic scum hem-haw, like he could jump off if needed because he's not really serious about voting me.

 

 
This reaction to Vos feels fake to me, you didn't react to the vote instantly, but first trumped up that the votes on you were significant somehow (even tho they shouldn't have been- you claimed a villainous character and a following scene seemed to have weirdly similar details to what you had described. Votes on you at that time shouldn't have really stood out at all), and THEN started acting like Vos's vote stunk to high heaven. Also, seems you're putting words into his mouth by saying he could jump off if needed, when he himself hadn't said anything which indicated he planned on backing off anytime soon.
 

Personally, I think any gameplay content is relevant, but votes are more relevant.  They show you where people are willing to shove their chips.  That being said, I don't think philosophizing on how to play mafia is the best way to start a game.  It tends to result in people scumreading people they disagree with for no other reason than that they disagree.  Slight FoS on both you and Nolder for this.

 
I like how you come in and give your two cents on the issue, then immediately fos others for having the same discussion.
 
Oh wait, no I don't. I don't like that at all
 

 

Win Condition: You win when all threats to the Heroes have been eliminated

Nothing in my role about symps or survivors or whatever. Not gonna worry about it.

But this means some characters alignments may not be 100% obvious.

Scum also definitely have fake claims given the ability to post role PMs.

Possibly some of the traditional avengers aren't in the game but are fake claims since I'm considered a hero in this game.

 
Incredibly speculative reasoning all based on the fact we should all apparently accept that Tommy is town.
 
Ewwwwwwwwww.
 
I dont have a problem with Tommy just acting like he's town and that everyone should see that, that's par for the course. What I have a problem with is Tommy trying to slyly make himself look townie with the speculation about fake claims and whatnot based on his alignment, which no townie (except for his twin apparently ) should have any knowledge of
 

 

Red do you have any objection to me sharing the reads list you PMed me during N0?

She called me her top townie. Awwww.

Oh really? Because I just so happened to get a similar PM from her, telling me I was her top town read as well? This should be good. I was tempted to reveal it because it felt like she overplayed her towniness in it to me,

 

 
Hrmmmmmm.... Red PM'ed me as well. And said I was "townvibing" and whatnot.
 
Tress already pointed out how strange it is for Red to be giving out town reads this early (and I touched on this as well earlier, and how this fits her scum meta), but what is even MOAR peculiar is the people she contacted- Lenlo, Tommy, myself, and .... Xthrax I think? Anyways point is 2 of those people Red would normally be a lot moar combative towards, I know she relishes any opportunity to try and "catch" me as scum when she is town, and after seeing her interact with Tommy for a bit I get the same feeling. And yet she instead reaches out thru PM to those two people.... doesn't look right to me. Plus she pm's Lenlo and says he was one of her top town reads.... and I see absolutely nothing in the thread that could have given her that indication.
 
 

 

 
That's how I remembered it as well.

From the darkest depths of the interwebs comes Xthrax!

 

(quote tags got messed up a bit)
 
Didn't see Xthrax get announced like that, and meh other points have been brought up that kind of refute my whole reasoning on that thing, so meh dropping it.
 

 

I'm treating Tsuki as town because

a) he's been around all morning talking to me and pushing the fact that my character should be scum as if he found something he really believed in

b) I remember him as a scummy townie in past games and he sometimes has good tone

c) he's catching a lot of heat early, with people like Tress popping in to take jabs at him. That has me on alert.

 
a) legit
 
b) weak meta is weak
 
c) that is way too simple.  If anything you should be wary of early distancing and you should be more sus of Tress than town on Tsuki.

 

 
???
 
I think that was the implication with what Tommy was saying- that he suspected Tress for the pileon, but that the multiple people piling on made him feel Tsuki was >rand to be town.
 
More importantly, this post fails the tone test since it seems like TG is more perturbed about the way Tommy is trying to scumhunt or make connections than he is interested in fleshing out Tommy's alignment. Like he's mad that Tommy isn't suspecting the right people or something.
 

The fact that Red sent anyone a PM during Dawn saying that she HAD town reads should be more alarming than her sending two of them.

 
*nods*
 

OOC: i'm changing my style from finding everyone scum to actually trying to find town and scum regardless of alignment.  you'll see that after a few games, but for now i get why you think that given my meta and Despos game.
 
town points to Tress

 

 
Hidden in one of Red's wots I found this- Red saying she's pinging because she's changing her style. Classic scumtell is classic.
 
Plus, another mark against Red for trying to buddy Tress.
 

After catchup, TG comes out looking scummy, darthe doesn't look anything like usual darthe - town or scum, there's something fishy about NB/Tina statements, Tsuki looks like frustrated townie to me, Red looks like townie Red, X feels town to me, Len seems to be sitting in the background more than usual, which pings me. Tommy seems like town atm.

 
Quoted this post instead of the big wot from Key- Key in the future can you put spaces in between the quote and your thoughts please? I was skimming as it is, but your wot was particularly hard to follow because of this
 

 

Tired of being hated.  Didn't happen before Cory/You showed up.  Blow me.

 

 
Fwiw, I never hated you and still don't, but you definitely have frustrated me a lot in the past, and I know you're intelligent which makes some things you say and do even more frustrating.
 

 

I had to double-check your name to make sure you were the real Lenlo after I read this.  You realize this is the issue I have with you almost every game, right?  Did you put on your shiny pro-town hat for this game?

Im trying abit harder this game, refocused like the ME one. Also wanted to make Mynds game good so decided to step it up. Can I get a hat though? With little stars and sparkles on it?
 
 

Wombat, I see you share my suspicions of TG. But do you think he could sustain that passionate real-time argument with me if he was scum? I'm asking earnestly, I've only seen one scum game of him (Basel's Star Wars) and it was piss poor but he said not to judge him off that, so can you offer me some perspective?

I know im not Wombat, but ill answer anyways. I dont think he could no. Feel he gets alot more into it as town.
 
Besides if hes scum or a vig we will know by daylight, cause ill be dead. :P ((Note thats like a 3 game running joke.))

 

 
Ewwwwww @ this post. Lenlo gives the 'ol "I'm actually going to try this game" schpiel, which is meh to me since I've heard it before, then answers a question directed at someone else in a sideline snipe sort of fashion.
 
Also, my two cents is that TG could def pass that off as scum. I've seen him look pretty convincing as scum in the past, showing townish type aggressiveness and whatnot.
 

 

 
Use this, next time, Tommy.

 
Scum or not, you just became the coolest person in this thread.  In fact, I'ma go watch boondocks and forget about playing the rest of the night.

 

 
TG fails the tone test here for somewhat unnecessarily adding in the "Scum or not" line, like he's overly concerned with keeping up appearances
 

 

Abit annoyed this has taken so much attention now.

I don't find it annoying as much as it establishes a player as an opinion leader or at the least prominent distraction. He can then drop back in a game this large and someone else can take over.
 
Scumhunting??

 

 
Quoted this post before cause it seemed like Drunk Tank was sniping a bit, only flying by to offer random commentary here or there, but he does seem to be participating more lately.
 

So I'm not all the way caught up, but it seems like you're hyper focusing on Darthe, Tommeh.
 
Darthe, I personally don't hate you!  :( I'm sorry if you feel that way.  
 
Right now Darthe reads to me like a townie getting dumped on.

 
This is DEF a snipe post tho. Hallia hasn't offered much yet this game, so decides to come in pretty much solely to defend someone that isn't really getting a ton of heat, at least compared to Tommy or Tuski or others in the game? Smells of buddying to me
 

I've mainly been focusing on you this game, I'll admit. But here are some things I've noticed from a few other players:

Darthe has been playing differently, and is strangely quiet. I am not sure how he plays as scum, but this is very different from how I've seen him play town.

I am pretty confident Red is town. Her play seems different from when I've played with her as scum. None of her reads have seemed to have scummy reasoning, at least from what I've looked at (although some posts I have skimmed over a bit)

This one I don't really have any reasoning for, but gut feeling says Tsuki is town. His gameplay is exactly the same as every game I've been in with him as town. I don't have a clue on how he plays as scum though.

 

FOS @ Dawn for two things in this post- parroting what others say about peeps (as in Darthe's case) and then repeating a very similar phrase she used for Darthe to use with Tsuki- I don't know how he plays as scum. Fails tone test in a pretty major way, like Dawn is trying to hedge her bets with her reads, and ditch responsibility for giving actual game thoughts on people, and instead falling back on repeating stuff others are saying or saying she doesn't know how someone plays or w/e (when as a newbie, she shouldn't even be that concerned with meta)

 

[Blackhoof]

Waiting on the other PM, but I don't see a smoking gun. Red listed her top town reads. She didn't list them in rank order.

 

 

Mynd is allowing outside communications and while i get that you may not trust me, i'm getting a major town vibe from you.

 

between your lolchatting, how you handled the PR we both got, and your post to X on thread. i've got good vibrations from you.

 

so i'm jumping with my gut and extending a line of communication to you as your top of my town reads right now.

 

as avengers, open communications is our best tool to doing away with that horrible creation of Starks.

This was Reds PM to me. Mostly just an olive branch that I would have pressed for more from if Mynd hadnt closed off PMs. I was spending time mulling over how I wanted to go about this though cause I wasnt 100% on her at the time.

 

bit of lame "hey I'm town" at the end. I also find the "if i was scum i would have done X" defence. Never a good defence, as it shoes you've considered what you would have done in either situation and you could do that as scum or town, rendering that statement almost meaningless.

 

 

 

 

and now that its been proven theres no contradiction? are you still gogin to try and use me to deflect attrition off of you?

 

 

First off, was never "using" YOU, just "using" the PMs, since everyone suddenly wanted to ignore them based on my "bwahhahaha" comment.

You used attrition wrong...

noun

1.

a reduction or decrease in numbers, size, or strength:

Our club has had a high rate of attrition because so many members have moved away.

 

 

2.

a wearing down or weakening of resistance, especially as a result of continuous pressure or harassment:

The enemy surrounded the town and conducted a war of attrition.

 

 

3.

a gradual reduction in work force without firing of personnel, as when workers resign or retire and are not replaced.

 

4.

the act of rubbing against something; friction.

 

5.

a wearing down or away by friction; abrasion.

 

6.

Theology. imperfect contrition.

 

trust me, I am not weakened or wore down.

 

 

and then theres posts like this that come off as overly defensive and give more of a squirming feeling rather than flustered town feeling.

 

 

plus, the addition of the english lesson at me is not only laughable and a waste of time on his part, but also seems like an attempt at baiting me into arguing with him over something that doesn't pertain at all to scum hunting.

 

yeah, it was pretty obvious she meant attention.

 

 

You came out of nowhere with a post about "distractions"... I guess, given the nature of DM Mafia (Spam being posted up to, and potentially after, the final lynch) that this seems less than genuine.

 

eth, people have been complaining about distractions all game. Hardly out if nowhere. FOS.

 

 

reasons im on tommy

 

he whined about playing.

he then claimed Galactus a major villian, multiple times.

then he goes oh no im a twin not galactus!! the twins are villians at this point in canon.

he is trolling and i am in the ABBA game and as such am sick of trolling.

 

 

he didnt want to play then seems to have played to get lynched so i say we give him what he wanted.

 

 

somebody made a comment of me going for low hanging fruit....i have read tommy as scum a number of times and tried to get him lynched and he always turned out scum yet I dont think i EVER succeeded so no im not seeing ure low hanging fruit thing

weaksauce arguments. Even before Mynd confirmed it it was clear he wasn't galactus.

 

 

Darthe is scum, Darthe is scum, I peeked him scum, I'm a dawn cop, Darthe is scum, we need to lynch Darthe.

 

wut? Keep false-claiming and i might stop believing you. How about the other twin speak up? The twins may be town, mafia or third party. The mafia wouldn't kill you if you were mafia (obviously) and if you are town killing one would just confirm the other. If third party, the mafia wouldn't know if they were town or third party, so wouldn't want to risk the nk in case they were.

And, any investigative roles we have can search one or both and confirm them.

 

May be worth considering.

 

 

 

 

Who cares? If people are going to start correcting Red's grammar/spelling/diction, this game is going to go down in flames.

 

yeah, it wont be pretty

 

 

 

I was trying to call bullshit in the most polite was possible to fit in over here. How many people did you threaten to vig tonight and now you're dawn phase cop? After claiming galactus? I hope you don't think your power will save you from being lynched. I have the final say in that and when I drop the hammer it stays dropped.

 

Yeah, claiming a lot of roles haphazardly is a classic scum tactic.

 

terrible defence, you know

 

 

What do I normally sound like?

A self-confident nutball who has his head so far up psychoanalytic theory's ass that he can't tell his eye from his ego.Here you just sound defeated and bored. Like you're not having fun. Usually you have fun as town, right?

 

maybe he's just having a bad day.

[hazelkrs1]

As for my vote- [v]TG[/v]

 

For a number of reasons. My gut is screaming scum on him, he started the whole Lenlo avi fad then kinda fell off the map a bit once gameplay started, then he came back in and his posts looked forced. He tried catching Tommy on a TMI "slip" for instance that was weak, and just in general he seemed to be going through the motions.

 

Also highly suspect of Red and Tina. Red for reasons that should be obvious, Tina because I think she is trying to go along with the crowd, whereas as town she will normally ask more out there questions and do her own scumhunting. Also somewhat suspicious of Wombat, I can't follow him as well this game so far. He's had some posts that rankled me, might have to reread him later.

 

Tommy, otoh, is a bit of a conundrum, but for now I'm thinking he's more likely to be third party, which would make sense for his character (Quicksilver or Scarlett Witch). His play def doesn't scream town to me, and he's normally very good at broadcasting his towniness early when he is town.

 

Okay really gotta hurry now- I do have a fairly nice POE building up, so there's that at least.

 

LOCK CLEARS:

 

AJ

Vos
Xthrax

Tress

Hoof

Krak

Arsis

[Blackhoof]

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Waiting on the other PM, but I don't see a smoking gun. Red listed her top town reads. She didn't list them in rank order.

yeah, so that clears that up then. She explained it to my satisfaction.

 

 

 

 

I just want to make dick jokes and laugh at poor people.

 

Sounds like a regular day for you.

 

IMO a scum that can get through a few days while convincing townies to openly kill other townies serves their own purpose and if he gets a PR in the process then it's gold, which he likely wouldn't since day cop is rare as hell. That logic looks bad on Vos since it gives Tommy plenty of reason to get through more days.

 

Womby I am not sure what you're anticipating from me? I'm town and fighting against practically nothing thus far since there is no argument for me to not be town other than that scum exist somewhere so maybe im one of them? What point could you possibly be looking for?

 

Dude do you remember the original Avengers game? Everyone had roles and they were all non-conventional. I wouldnt put anything out cause of Mynd. Granted this does of course make claims much less believable/creditable and not near as much of a safety net.

IMO that isn't going to fly. Many of our roles will be unique in some way but they will almost all have a basis in regular, even traditional, roles. Mynd builds a basic game and then starts adding stuff to make it advanced, thus I doubt that we see things like a day cop. If that existed scum would have things like day vigilante's etc and Tommy would have already died.

logical fallacy, that last bit. Complex roles do not carry the conditions you have applied as a requirement for their existence.

 

 

 

hmmm liking red a bit better, but the dawn vote still stinks. Tsuki is acting weird. So for now i will [v]Dice[/v] for his insistence on lynching Tommy for bad reasons and trying to get a rush on him going.

[dicetosser1]

 

reasons im on tommy

 

he whined about playing.

he then claimed Galactus a major villian, multiple times.

then he goes  oh no im a twin not galactus!!  the twins are villians at this point in canon.

he is trolling and i am in the ABBA game and as such am sick of trolling.

 

 

he didnt want to play then seems to have played to get lynched so i say we give him what he wanted.

 

 

somebody made a comment of me going for low hanging fruit....i have read tommy as scum a number of times and tried to get him lynched and he always turned out scum yet I dont think i EVER succeeded so no im not seeing ure low hanging fruit thing

 

This is bullshit. I never wanted to collect votes or get lynched, I was just dicking around for reactions. If you're gonna vote me, at least get some real reasons or I'll be vigging you tonight.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Red do you have any objection to me sharing the reads list you PMed me during N0?

 

She called me her top townie. Awwww.

Oh really? Because I just so happened to get a similar PM from her, telling me I was her top town read as well? This should be good. I was tempted to reveal it because it felt like she overplayed her towniness in it to me,

 

 

Uh-oh, Red playing the field? 

 

 

bwahahahaha.... this should be great...

Wolfy

 

 

See!? This here, ladies and gentlemen!? This is popcorning! 

 

Red just posted a ton of content. Jeez

 

my thoughts precisely 

 

 

What's your view on Red right now?

 

 

First off, how is saying that a CC is great "popcorning"??

CC's provide GREAT info, which makes them something a townie should want to see, IMO.

 

But I like how that CC about the PMs is being swept to the side to target me. Who are you protecting?

 

Not really a CC imo, but whatever.

 

 

I don't see why things need to be overly complex here.  Tommy fake claimed immediately, is playing to troll and has indicated that he knows things that most likely shouldn't be known by a townie.  Strikes me as a clean D1 lynch at the very least.  

 

Maybe because people want to play the game and find the scum?  What do you mean by a clean lynch?  What do we get if Tommy flips town?

 

 

 

You ignored my Q. It seems bad to me to vote Tsuki over one post that has bad tone while ignoring his follow up posts that sound sincere.

 

If he is town and digs himself out of the hole, awesome.  But you're falling into bad logic.  You claim one bad post shouldn't damn him, yet one good post should clear him?  No, one bad post should damn someone, and it takes a lot of clearing up to overcome it.

 

what?

 

Early game you came after me for knowing that D0 was going to last until Sun night when Mynd had posted that in the sign-up thread.  Looked like you were eager to pounce on low hanging fruit.  When Tina and Red both cleared it up you never really stepped back and say, "Oh, I was wrong."

 

 

1.  How about neither?

 

2.  Crazy thin, dude.  Like I'd need a mu to tell you how thin this is.

 

 

 

Darthe is scum, Darthe is scum, I peeked him scum, I'm a dawn cop, Darthe is scum, we need to lynch Darthe.

 

 

placeholder for me to reply to once im home. 

[Nolder]

 

 

 

Noldor with the classic I'm going to have 15 posts and say nothing strategy. I wonder where he's going with this.

No where? I'm just catching up and commenting as I go.

 

Arsis with the classic nonsense filler post.

 

Speaking of hit and runs...

 

Guess I'll take care of you later.

 

What's up? I participated all day. I think that entitles me to one joke.

 

 

I like how you said too. I bet mine is better.

 

I don't think you were joking but I guess I'll let that settle in the court of public opinion.

 

And yeah you're probably right.