[Advanced] Avengers - Age of Ultron (GAME OVER!)

[Drunk Tank]

I visited Tommy night one and night two.

[Tyler Glembo]

I visited Tommy night one and night two.

 

For what purpose?

[Tyler Glembo]

EBWOP: You don't need to reveal your role to me here, but some information that is either testable in some way would be very useful to town.

[Drunk Tank]

Really you can't do that math in your head??

[Drunk Tank]

You of all people??

[RandA lThor]

 

Myndrunner

The Brick Tamland of Mafia

 

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You are VENOM!

 

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Alias: The Symbiote

 

Alignment: VENOM Symbiote (third party)

 

Win Condition: You win when you and your host are the only players remaining in the game.

 

Power Role: Noxious Spit – Choose one player at night to spit venom on. That player will be notified that they have been poisoned and that it will take one less vote to successfully lynch them.

 

Special Abilities: FIND A HOST - During the Dawn phase, for one time only during the entire game, you may choose one player to become your host. Their win condition and alignment will permanently change to match yours and they will share your VENOM Symbiote Quick Topic HERE

 

You will be connected through the end of the game. If one of you dies, the other will die as well.

 

You may learn more about your character here: http://en.wikipedia..../Venom_(comics)

 

Good luck and have fun!

 

@Rand

 

Thanks, I'm pretty sure that noxious spit would be the role transferred then, which is bad, but not as bad as the recruit.

 

Imply I'm most likely scum?? Look at this one trying to make logic again. You can't imply anything because there's nothing there.

 

Your myopic view of things gives you nothing to work with if you are trying to scum hunt and makes for a poor showing if you are trying to look town.

 

Frankly you need to try looking elsewhere if you're town because that last stunt you pulled (trying to stop the lynch on Dawn) was uber-stupid!!!!

 

Nothing there?  You targeted one of the most townie persons in the game and haven't explained yourself.  Lol and you're making fun of me trying to make logic. You've done nothing this entire game, lol.  Although I've been wrong some times, I still stand by some of my points, but lets not get on that right now.

 

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Roles

 

Here's a list of the most common roles in mafia.  Mynd obviously has gone outside this list, but lets use this as an example.

 

Out of all the town roles listed here, there are 3 that would have a chance to visit Mynd.  Two of them have already been revealed, bodyguard and watcher.  The only one left is doc.

 

So that's a chance of 1/11 if we take out all roles that have not been claimed.

 

As a contrast, every single visiting scum role would have a reason to visit Tommy.

 

 

 

 

Also, until DT gives a satisfactory response, I'd say he's my top bet for scum.  Unlike Yates' results (which we don't know whether they were altered or not), we know mine were altered and exactly how.  That leaves DT and Rags as the most suspect, but TG somehow still got Rags' gift.  So DT is the most likely.to be mafia.

 

 

Curious you don't even mention Wombat. What's your take on him?

 

I've mentioned that I thought Wombat was scummy before, and the Jarvis information is really interesting (on how he could be recruited to Ultron).  That in addition to the Yates' information makes him a likely suspect.  However, if Rag's is wrong, then that makes me think that something/someone might have messed with Wombat's too.

 

 

Also curious:

 

You doubting so much other results, yet has made such a big fuzz over me getting a town-copview on you. 

 

That said, I'm pretty sure that wasn't tampered with. Yet I fear since it got out in the open you were a prime candidate for recruitment if scum can recruit. You've been role-fishing hardcore left and right since. 

 

I admitted that the result wasn't enough to clear, but since I was the first result you claimed, it was less likely to be tampered with.  That along with proving myself as a watcher and the ability to prove the special ability of a person I am in contact with (we both know we're town) under the right situations should show me as pretty clear town.

 

I visited Tommy night one and night two. We had unprotected sex with a piñata.

Dude... seriously stop the joking.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Vote WWWwombat

[Tyler Glembo]

Really you can't do that math in your head??

 

I'll go back and look/check my notes/etc.

[RandA lThor]

Really you can't do that math in your head??

I know what you're leading towards.  Its the only town role that makes sense.  But at this point, you can't just soft claim and then stop.  There's room to hide in soft claims.  You have to hard claim and out.  With the number of roles out there, you won't be the top priority.

[Tyler Glembo]

 

I visited Tommy night one and night two. We had unprotected sex with a piñata.

 

Just wanted to put a PSA out there.  You should use rubbers.  Unless the hooker Tommy promises he/she is clean.  Then it's cool.

 

[Tyler Glembo]

 

Really you can't do that math in your head??

I know what you're leading towards.  Its the only town role that makes sense.  But at this point, you can't just soft claim and then stop.  There's room to hide in soft claims.  You have to hard claim and out.  With the number of roles out there, you won't be the top priority.

 

 

I'd suggest dropping this for now and focusing on the lynch at hand.

[RandA lThor]

 

 

Really you can't do that math in your head??

I know what you're leading towards.  Its the only town role that makes sense.  But at this point, you can't just soft claim and then stop.  There's room to hide in soft claims.  You have to hard claim and out.  With the number of roles out there, you won't be the top priority.

 

 

I'd suggest dropping this for now and focusing on the lynch at hand.

 

Two reasons why I don't want to

 

1. If mafia gets the hint (they have a higher probability because of sheer numbers) and they know his role, but we don't, mafia gain an advantage.  For that reason, soft claiming this much is usually never good.

 

2. If he is mafia, he has room to twist away in case of a CC.

 

But if he is what I think he is, then I'm kind of conflicted between Wombat and Rags. Lets go with the safer choice as TG said?

 

[v] Wombat [/v]

[Drunk Tank]

 

 

Really you can't do that math in your head??

I know what you're leading towards.  Its the only town role that makes sense.  But at this point, you can't just soft claim and then stop.  There's room to hide in soft claims.  You have to hard claim and out.  With the number of roles out there, you won't be the top priority.

 

 

I'd suggest dropping this for now and focusing on the lynch at hand.

 

Thanks, but I'm not so worried about Chicken Little. There are plenty of others who are clear regarding my alignment.

[Arsis]

Dt is still not in my town list.

 

 

What's the vc?

[WWWwombat]

 

 

 

Really you can't do that math in your head??

I know what you're leading towards.  Its the only town role that makes sense.  But at this point, you can't just soft claim and then stop.  There's room to hide in soft claims.  You have to hard claim and out.  With the number of roles out there, you won't be the top priority.

 

 

I'd suggest dropping this for now and focusing on the lynch at hand.

 

Two reasons why I don't want to

 

1. If mafia gets the hint (they have a higher probability because of sheer numbers) and they know his role, but we don't, mafia gain an advantage.  For that reason, soft claiming this much is usually never good.

 

2. If he is mafia, he has room to twist away in case of a CC.

 

But if he is what I think he is, then I'm kind of conflicted between Wombat and Rags. Lets go with the safer choice as TG said?

 

[v] Wombat [/v]

 

 

Kill this guy after Rags.

[Nolder]

Ultron taking over Jarvis to build his upgraded body is a rumored plot point for the upcoming movie.

Yeah...but Ultron is dead.

Unless you think he already corrupted Jarvis or whatever?

 

 

 

Has anyone flipped scum that we previously thought was town?

 

Nooooope!

That doesn't necessarily mean that town can't be recruited. No one else has said anything about being unrecruitable, that I can recall, except Tommy. Do you think Dawn was given a list of people and she pulled AJ's name from it? Would make more sense that she just randomly chose him and he happened to be not-town when he started.

 

Anything is possible. My point was that there is no reason to suspect something without any evidence of it.

That would be like saying there is probably a SK in the game. We haven't seen any kills that were unaccounted for so what would the SK be doing? Holding his shot? It's better to assume there is no SK until we see evidence of one. Likewise there is no reason to worry about recruiting until we see evidence of recruiting. I already went down this road earlier in the game and made a bunch of people paranoid because of how the last avengers game was. It seems pointless to tread that same ground again without any reason.

 

 

BTW, if I was a vig I would have shot Key by now.  Her scum MO is to play as safe and clean as possible while retaining enough thread presence to appear involved.  She hasn't reached out any, made any decisions or tried to stand apart which, as town, she usually does when she thinks opinions are too unilateral to be entirely town motivated.  

 

^Watch that slot.

Key had a really strong early game and helped seal the deal on X.

Meanwhile you were being an idiot.

You have Key shot and she flips town I will never let you hear the end of it.

 

[Arsis]

Noldor... He's an artificial intelligence. His first body may be dead but he can pass his main "self" off to cloned and back-ups?

 

I was tinfoiling a bit, yeah, but you're being strange about it.

[Nolder]

Noldor... He's an artificial intelligence. His first body may be dead but he can pass his main "self" off to cloned and back-ups?

 

I was tinfoiling a bit, yeah, but you're being strange about it.

You're still tinfoiling.

99% of the time when someone dies they stay dead and the other 1% is shit like what you saw with Blackhoof.

I know we're all superheroes and whatnot but this is still mafia and it still needs to be balanced.

 

Anyway I don't even know why we're talking about this.

Wombat is clearly scum, if not for the reasons you're laying out, let's just agree to disagree about Ultron and lynch his ass.

I was going to jail him tonight after Krak but I didn't realize he'd be up for the lynch today, I prefer Rags/Des myself.

Speaking of which I haven't voted yet.

 

[v]Wombat[/v]

 

Also Rihanna was hard to find decent (if ya know what I mean) pictures of so I'm switching to Taylor Swift for the day.

 

[Arsis]

I mentioned it offhand as a crazy theory and you went off about it and wouldn't let it go.

[keyholder21]

I admitted that the result wasn't enough to clear, but since I was the first result you claimed, it was less likely to be tampered with. That along with proving myself as a watcher and the ability to prove the special ability of a person I am in contact with (we both know we're town) under the right situations should show me as pretty clear town.

I agree with your first point re: less likely to be tampered with, but it’s LESS not definitely. I don’t agree with your second point. I’ve seen Watcher used as a scum role too, so I wouldn’t use that as evidence.

 

Problem with your Special Ability is that it’s useless unless a Hero is lynched…which we don’t want to happen and are actively working against.

 

I would be willing to take the risk on lynching Rags considering that town has taken out five scum, one from three teams each at least, and only three townies have died and we have a guilty result on him.

 

However, that doesn't seem to be the direction that the town is going in. I really want to see some consensus opinions from a lot of different people before I switch if I have to. I consider Rags potentially vastly more dangerous and thus I am suspect of the rather strong push away from lynching him. I don't see his potential positive utility as worth the risk that he presents and worse still is that the weight of this decision has been implied to weigh negatively on me if I don't move to Wombat as evidenced by Tommy asking me if I was recruited by my initial hesitance to switch etc.

 

Based on the above I see very VERY little chance of me moving to Wombat today, it strikes me as foolish and on thread bullying that is pushing away from Rags while those same people say that they are fully willing to lynch him. With recruiting in the game there is no way in hell that I am going to play to that.

We also have a guilty on Wombat. Also, we KNOW what Rags can do – whether town or scum he can gift players something based on a dead role. So, now he’s in a corner. If he is scum and wants everyone to think he’s town, then he needs to play along and gift a cleared townie something nice. If he is town, then he also needs to gift someone something nice in order to try and dig himself out of the hole that he’s in due to a guilty view. He can also be roleblocked, though I’m sure with a town bus driver, that the mafia have roles to mess results and actions up as well.

 

However, we don’t know Wombat’s role, so imo, that makes him more dangerous.

 

[v]Wombat[/v]

 

Weigh negatively on you because one person said something about it once? Tommy, who must be bored because he’s been trolling the thread of late? You didn’t seem that worried about it yesterday when he first commented that and I don’t think anybody said anything about it after that.

 

BTW, if I was a vig I would have shot Key by now. Her scum MO is to play as safe and clean as possible while retaining enough thread presence to appear involved. She hasn't reached out any, made any decisions or tried to stand apart which, as town, she usually does when she thinks opinions are too unilateral to be entirely town motivated.

 

^Watch that slot.

Let’s cast suspicion on someone, but then not show evidence to back it up.

 

 

 

Thanks, I'm pretty sure that noxious spit would be the role transferred then, which is bad, but not as bad as the recruit.

Also, if it IS the noxious spit that is transferred and then used on someone, we would probably find out because it says that the person that is spit on is notified.

 

 

Really you can't do that math in your head??

I know what you're leading towards. Its the only town role that makes sense. But at this point, you can't just soft claim and then stop. There's room to hide in soft claims. You have to hard claim and out. With the number of roles out there, you won't be the top priority.

 

I am not a fan of soft claiming either. Especially in a game where quoting PMs is allowed and have been cited frequently.

 

 

1. If mafia gets the hint (they have a higher probability because of sheer numbers) and they know his role, but we don't, mafia gain an advantage. For that reason, soft claiming this much is usually never good.

What do you mean mafia has a higher probability because of sheer numbers? They would have fewer numbers, especially now.

[Nolder]

I mentioned it offhand as a crazy theory and you went off about it and wouldn't let it go.

I made one...two posts about it?

If that's your definition of going off on something you'd hate to see me actually bugged by something.

 

[nervositee]

 

I admitted that the result wasn't enough to clear, but since I was the first result you claimed, it was less likely to be tampered with. That along with proving myself as a watcher and the ability to prove the special ability of a person I am in contact with (we both know we're town) under the right situations should show me as pretty clear town.

I agree with your first point re: less likely to be tampered with, but it’s LESS not definitely. I don’t agree with your second point. I’ve seen Watcher used as a scum role too, so I wouldn’t use that as evidence.

 

Problem with your Special Ability is that it’s useless unless a Hero is lynched…which we don’t want to happen and are actively working against.

 

 

I mentioned that I believe my read. But I also see the big possibility that Rand is up for recruitment. 

 

I'll write a second post about my results so far.

[nervositee]

MY COP RESULTS SO FAR, WHAT I BELIEVE AND WHAT MIGHT BE OFF

 

N1: View Rand

 

I viewed Rand. I got a PM saying:

 

You get a report saying Rand is Hero

 

N2: View Tommy

 

I viewed Tommy, because Tinfoil. I got a PM saying:

 

Your report says "Hero". 

 

Note: No name.

 

Note 2: TG and Tommy switched places N2. 

 

N3: View NotBob

 

Your report says "Hero". 

 

Same as N2 when Tommy was switched. 

 

CONCLUSION:

 

I'm pretty sure Rand is town, or at least he was town N1. Off chance he might be a GF. 

 

TG is confirmed town.

 

Neither Tommy nor NotBob is cleared by my copping. 

[Arsis]

 

I mentioned it offhand as a crazy theory and you went off about it and wouldn't let it go.

I made one...two posts about it?

If that's your definition of going off on something you'd hate to see me actually bugged by something.

 

No reason to go crazy over it. Relax. This is a pg-13 board no reason for that.

[Darthe]

So you're all going Wombat without letting me be first on a train because you disagree about killing one scum over another?

This thread is becoming as dense as rand was yesterday.