[Advanced] Blackhoof's Cthulhu Mythos Mafia Game- Day 1

[Pralaya]

Ya know what, after rereading Lenlo's post....Dap is clear.

 

Dap hadn't voted RTE at this point yet Lenlo implies that he did. Lenlo wasn't even reading the thread but assumed Dap had voted RTE. A Scum on Scum fake vote wouldn't try to call out one of their own in this way. I think we can safely clear Dap.

I'm feeling a Despo vs Womby train right now. One of them is definitely scum.

Now is about the time we should be hearing from Tsuki.....and Dawn

@Clov - I am positive Vos is town. You and I are on the same page about Dap if you read him likely town. Pral made a very pro-town post today.

Yep, very likely. Personally, I see Des as town here. He is not sniping, he is pushing. But Wombat. He is sneaking, sneakily sneaking. Lock scum for me.

[Myndrunner]

@Pral, what are your thoughts, casings, gut, meta, or overall feel for Tsuki?

[Pralaya]

Haven't seen much of him the cluster fest yesterday. However, his last minute vote stood out. Darthe called him out for it, I assumed Darthe was trying to be a bit opportunistic there. But with his flip, I can see why he thought so.

 

Slight lean scum, but there are bigger fishes to fry

 

[v] Wombat[/v] ..He will get dangerous late game, especially when I think he is scum

[Myndrunner]

UNOFFICIAL Vote Count

 

Des (2) - Red, Mynd

Tsuki (1) - Clov

Wombat (1) - Pral

Mynd (1) - RTE

 

 

Not voting (9)- Wombat, Des, Dawn, Player, Nyn, Nervo, TGlems, Tsuki, Hallia, 

 

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 to lynch

 

Deadline: 3AM 6 July EST

Countdown Timer: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140706T17&p0=1492&msg=End+of+Day+2&csz=1&swk=1

[hazelkrs1]

Gotta say I was pretty surprised to see Lenlo flip as scum. Awesome shot, whoever that was

 

 

[v]Red[/v]

 

Slept all day, so iso will have to come tonight. Could vote her or Wombat today, but I have a ridiculous amount of confidence in Red flipping scum this game. She even seems a little self-conscious there, posting that she'd be on LOA... for a day. Who does that? Just say you'll be busy today, doesn't mean you're gonna be on a "LOA".

 

Anyways I have a lot more than that telling me she's scum. Will present my case tonight at work.

[hazelkrs1]

As far as Wombat goes, his vote on me earlier in the day was bad, and his antagonistic push against Tommy yesterday looks bad in retrospect, considering he let me and Darthe continue the push the rest of the day after getting in his jabs.

[Clovdyx]

Gotta say I was pretty surprised to see Lenlo flip as scum. Awesome shot, whoever that was

 

 

[v]Red[/v]

 

Slept all day, so iso will have to come tonight. Could vote her or Wombat today, but I have a ridiculous amount of confidence in Red flipping scum this game. She even seems a little self-conscious there, posting that she'd be on LOA... for a day. Who does that? Just say you'll be busy today, doesn't mean you're gonna be on a "LOA".

 

Anyways I have a lot more than that telling me she's scum. Will present my case tonight at work.

 

As far as Wombat goes, his vote on me earlier in the day was bad, and his antagonistic push against Tommy yesterday looks bad in retrospect, considering he let me and Darthe continue the push the rest of the day after getting in his jabs.

 

I might be able to go with a Wombat lynch, but I don't see Red being scum after the flips.  It just doesn't make sense to me for her to put that much effort into casing Darthe if her team was just going to shoot him that same phase.  She'd be taking out her own mislynch target...what's the gain from that?

[Myndrunner]

 

Gotta say I was pretty surprised to see Lenlo flip as scum. Awesome shot, whoever that was

 

 

[v]Red[/v]

 

Slept all day, so iso will have to come tonight. Could vote her or Wombat today, but I have a ridiculous amount of confidence in Red flipping scum this game. She even seems a little self-conscious there, posting that she'd be on LOA... for a day. Who does that? Just say you'll be busy today, doesn't mean you're gonna be on a "LOA".

 

Anyways I have a lot more than that telling me she's scum. Will present my case tonight at work.

 

As far as Wombat goes, his vote on me earlier in the day was bad, and his antagonistic push against Tommy yesterday looks bad in retrospect, considering he let me and Darthe continue the push the rest of the day after getting in his jabs.

 

I might be able to go with a Wombat lynch, but I don't see Red being scum after the flips.  It just doesn't make sense to me for her to put that much effort into casing Darthe if her team was just going to shoot him that same phase.  She'd be taking out her own mislynch target...what's the gain from that?

 

^This.

[hazelkrs1]

Eh fwiw I completely skipped over her "cases" on me and Darthe

 

When I do the iso if I see reasonable doubt that she could actually be town, I'll switch to Wombat

 

The toughest thing for me to justify tho on Red's behalf is her misreps. She's had a couple of doozies, where she blatantly misrepresented a situation or a person and I just don't see town!Red doing that

[Myndrunner]

[Nynaeve]

As I said before, when I was looking at the whole trio bashing thing (aka tom, darthe, des), I got a town vs.town read out of their interactions. I did not like Wombat's interjections. I am in the process of casing him but I don't think I'll be done today cause it's late for me and he has loads of posts. I will finish it tomorrow and post it with my thoughts.

 

As for Tsuki, still don't like him. Added to my ISO, I recall specifically not liking him casting a vote on tom and going 'Happy?'. He was making too much of a point of voting tommy, yet at the same wanting everyone to know that he wasn't pleased about it. As if he knew tommy was going to flip town and he wanted a post he can later refer to show that he wasn't really convinced about tommy and was more doing it for consolidation reasons. After that he kinda went quiet. He hasn't posted in the game thread since Sunday. I know for a fact that he has been around.

 

 

Where you be, Tsuki?

[Tsukibana]

I be lurking.

[Nynaeve]

LOL  No sh*t.

[Red2111]

i posted an LoA Despo because i didn't know when i would be back. i figured it wouldn't be until sometime tomorrow.

 

 

I think we can safely lynch Despo at this point.  After last night's "vision", it was between Despo, Womby, and Dap.  I didn't get a mafia read per se, but at least one of them is not town. 

 

[v] Despo [/v]

 

Vos, RTE, and Red are town. 

 

We need to hear from Tsuki as well.  I only had room for three names.

 

i still need to do a case on you and your still on my scum list, and i'm very ify on trusting this from you. Dap i need to look at, Tommy iso'd him so i'll be examining that a bit more closely (probably quote dragging it back up). Womby's play this game is different, but i dont think he's scum tbh.

 

Despo i already posted a case on and would be happy to lynch him. seeing Len flip scum makes and Darthe flip town makes me even more sure on him btw. you leading a train on him gives you more town cred imo, scum wouldn't be doing that after losing someone who had a town cred going like Len.

 

between the lockclearing Len so early from Despo, and the "Darthe is coaching Dawn on thread" poo flinging Despo did, that shoudl be enough to prove his guilt imo.

 

 

 

 

Hi.

 

um ... hi

 

[v]Tsuki[/v]

 

case?

 

 

 

 

I think we can safely lynch Despo at this point.  After last night's "vision", it was between Despo, Womby, and Dap.  I didn't get a mafia read per se, but at least one of them is not town. 

 

[v] Despo [/v]

 

Vos, RTE, and Red are town. 

 

We need to hear from Tsuki as well.  I only had room for three names.

 

I have a hard time thinking Des is scum this game. He's played so ridiculously over the top this game it makes me think that there's no way he would have thrown so much caution to the wind as scum. Between the three you named I would have to go with Dap.

 

[v] Dap [/v]

 

Wonder if the scum team did purposefully silence Lenlo to get town cred for him. Well, good shot.

 

 

Dap isn;t scum, man. Lenlo voted dap before getting silenced. That didn;t look like a bus vote but a push-the-train kind of vote. Lenlo flipping scum kind of clears dap. We need to look elsewhere,

 

 

 

this is faulty thinking and moves you from null to scum leaning. scum aren't above distancing from team mates early in D1. i've seen them do so with joke votes even (not that Len's was a joke vote). the vote itself is WIFOM, for you to clear Dap based on this reeks.

 

 

 

@RTE - for sake of argument, let's assume Dap is town and that Pral's defense of Dap was more a townie defending another townie.  Just for a moment, let's assume this.

 

Who would be your next choice for lynch?

 

Fair enough, given everything in the last few posts I am comfortable saying I think I was wrong about this. Therefore,

 

[unvote] [v] Mynd [/v]

 

I still believe either Red or Mynd is scum, and I think the scum is Mynd. His arguments about Red felt baseless and conjecture based on meta. Mynd would be my choice.

 

 

i could roll with a Mynd vote as well. he's 2nd on my scum list tbh.

 

 

TownieTown Mansion

 

Vos

Pral

Clov

 

 

 

 

Slightly Town Condos

 

 

 

TGlems

RTE - A scum doesn't vote a townie who claims he is likely town.  A townie might vote someone he thinks is scum.

Dapianoplayer

Red - We need the casings she promised us, but I think she's on the right track.  The Yin-Yang twins rule!

 

 

Nullville

 

 

Halia - took over for Zero

 

 

 

 

Slightly Scum Motel

 

 

Dawn

Nyn

 

 

 

SCREAMING Scum Salad

 

 

Tsuki

Despo

Womby

 

 

 

There is a chance that one of the three in the Salad is town, but I'm pretty sure by shear process of elimination that at least two of them are scum.

 

Despo i'm lockscum on, Tsuki has pinged here and there but not as much as Despo, and i'm leaning town on womby now.

 

also, i posted 2 of the 4 cases. i'm dropping Womby, which leaves an iso (i think thats what ya'll call it now.) on you.

[Red2111]

also Despo i posted the LoA because i'm in your game and its absurdley active :togue: this one has been active as well. didn't know how many damn posts i'd have to dig through to get caught up

 

not a complaint, i like active game

[Myndrunner]

I be lurking.

 

Probably more active on the mafia QT, amirite?

[Tsukibana]

Nope, just could care less. Shame to say, but deadline is in 4 days, and this isn't a hammer game. I don't have a lot to contribute that other people aren't saying, I have no one I am sure enough about to vote, atm, and people will find my inactivity scummy no matter what. So I will wait, and watch, and when DL is closer (like 24-36 hours) I will put in some time. But 4 days of "nuh uh, uh huh, I said - No, you said -" doesn't thrill me, atm.

[Blackhoof]

It is a hammer game. If someone is hammered they are lynched, no backsies.

 

@Nervo: thanks :) the scenes are my favourite part

 

 

Vote Count

 

 

Des(2)- Red, mynd

Tsuki(1)- Clov

Mynd(1)- RTE

Red(1)- Des

Wombat(1)- Pral

 

 

 

Not voting (8)- Wombat, Dawn, Player, Nyn, Nervo, TGlems, Tsuki, Hallia,

 

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 to lynch

 

Deadline: 3AM 6 July EST

Countdown Timer: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140706T17&p0=1492&msg=End+of+Day+2&csz=1&swk=1

[Tsukibana]

I stand corrected, although the OP doesn't state that... *shrugs*

Doesn't change much. I find Wombat and Despo scummy; Nyn picks on me, Town read; and You are trying way to hard to collect half-arsed lists; Turin you ain't.

Red is confusing, I HATE WoT that never seem to say anything...

[Clovdyx]

 

[v]Tsuki[/v]

 

case?

 

 

I don't like his chances to be town.  He's put in no effort towards solving the game/finding scum - as far as I can tell, these are his only three posts actually based around the game (other than him fixing a vote).

 

 

Tsuki admits to being off focus and less interested since game began due to family that I don't normally get a chance to see are here.

 

Tsuki is scummy as hell by nature, and has never been vetted or cleared without a stupid amount of work - so, yeah, I howl. Bring it.

 

Tsuki was not targeting Dawn, anymore than I always do. Perhaps if she gets used to a little bit of early pressure (not even a case, just pressure (kinda like a joke vote, in my book)), she'll be less likely to bail, or to jump on this emotrain that I see is getting popular around DM... ugh. Sign up then threaten a quit before 36 hours are up - gross. But, whatever.

 

Appointments to be kept, shall return in 2-3 hours.

 

This post was in response to Lenlo's large post that we went over earlier.  He admits to being scummy as hell, so why is he bothered that he's getting a little bit of pressure?  He certainly isn't one of ones I would expect to actually be lynched based on Lenlo's opinions.

 

[v]Mynd[/v]

 

Wanna talk about people who say little but post a lot?

 

I'm not sure what this is in response to, but it doesn't seem like a GREAT reason to lynch somebody.  Not awful, but not great.  It does, however, look a hell of a lot worse with his next post.

 

I'm not even going to play catch-up, sick to death of "Tompo" crap cluttering the thread.

 

[/unvote]

 

Scum:

Despo and Tommy - this craptastic frenemy shite you got going on is sickening. Am I the only one that sees that these two are talking a whole hell of a lot without saying anything.

RTE - Finding me TOWN with how I have been playing? Ugh.

 

[v]Despothera[/v]

 

Town: Nyn, Wombat, Mynd, Darthe

Three of the fourth are town simply because they are willing to call me on my lazyness. I don't often see scum doing more than simply bitching about the lazyness in general "a lurker is scum" is usually the most that happens.

 

I am Town, but you can take it or leave it.

 

Okay, Tsuki's not going to play catch up. 

Mynd is now town.  What did he say in those four hours to change Tsuki's mind?  Oh wait, nothing, because Tsuki apparently didn't read the thread. 

And he's reading a handful of people as town simply because they pointed out laziness? 

[Red2111]

fair points Colv, i could go with a competing train on Despo & Tsuki today.

 

 

 

I stand corrected, although the OP doesn't state that... *shrugs*

Doesn't change much. I find Wombat and Despo scummy; Nyn picks on me, Town read; and You are trying way to hard to collect half-arsed lists; Turin you ain't.

Red is confusing, I HATE WoT that never seem to say anything...

 

1 - Hoof has posted its a hammer game multiple times int he thread.  not his fault your not reading along.

 

2 - you could post cases on why you think those two are scummy instead of going into lurk mode and looking like nothing more than a wagoner

 

3 - while Mynd is almost lock scum to me, at least he's being active, and no offense to Turin but Mynd would run circles around him with both legs tied behind his back.

 

4 - my WoT's say a lot, you just parrot what Despo's been trying to feed everyone because A - your his scum buddy and B - your too lazy to read them.

[Tsukibana]

 

 

[v]Mynd[/v]

 

Wanna talk about people who say little but post a lot?

 

I'm not sure what this is in response to, but it doesn't seem like a GREAT reason to lynch somebody.  Not awful, but not great.  It does, however, look a hell of a lot worse with his next post.

 

 

May not be a good reason to LYNCH someone, but is a perfectly valid reason to put a "pressure vote" on someone, especially that early in the Day. Or have you never voted someone you thought MIGHT be town, just to see how they react?

[Tsukibana]

fair points Colv, i could go with a competing train on Despo & Tsuki today.

 

 

 

I stand corrected, although the OP doesn't state that... *shrugs*

Doesn't change much. I find Wombat and Despo scummy; Nyn picks on me, Town read; and You are trying way to hard to collect half-arsed lists; Turin you ain't.

Red is confusing, I HATE WoT that never seem to say anything...

 

1 - Hoof has posted its a hammer game multiple times int he thread.  not his fault your not reading along.

 

2 - you could post cases on why you think those two are scummy instead of going into lurk mode and looking like nothing more than a wagoner

 

3 - while Mynd is almost lock scum to me, at least he's being active, and no offense to Turin but Mynd would run circles around him with both legs tied behind his back.

 

4 - my WoT's say a lot, you just parrot what Despo's been trying to feed everyone because A - your his scum buddy and B - your too lazy to read them.

And a WoT that doesn't say a damn thing.

 

1 - Show me.

2 - Case or no case, you would still say I am wagonning

3 - LOL. There is a rule about ongoing games, Or I would tell you a story.

4 - Your WoT could be a hell of lot less annoying if you didn't insist on quoting the same crap 15 times. At least put the bloody repeat quotes in spoilers.

[Clovdyx]

 

 

 

[v]Mynd[/v]

 

Wanna talk about people who say little but post a lot?

 

I'm not sure what this is in response to, but it doesn't seem like a GREAT reason to lynch somebody.  Not awful, but not great.  It does, however, look a hell of a lot worse with his next post.

 

 

May not be a good reason to LYNCH someone, but is a perfectly valid reason to put a "pressure vote" on someone, especially that early in the Day. Or have you never voted someone you thought MIGHT be town, just to see how they react?

 

 

So were you already leaning town on him at the point you voted him then, or did that conclusion come after the fact?

[Tsukibana]

 

 

So were you already leaning town on him at the point you voted him then, or did that conclusion come after the fact?

 

 

At the time I placed the vote, he was Null to Town, based on BS gif posts and that's about it. Then he started actually posting stuff with content, so I pulled back. At the moment, I think he is trying hard to seem like he is scum hunting, he is asking people for reads (but only on those he already has his own strong opinions on), and generally being active - If I had a bullet, I wouldn't shoot him, best I can say.